and for investing in the older son's business that sounds like it's gonna fail cause older son is a narcissistic jackass. If you really think about it, things very well could've been worse for the dad and the family overall if OP never found out about the parents investing in older brother's future failed business until it was too late.
Yes it's both of their faults, but at least OP's mom realized how badly she f'd up by being a spineless coward who let the dad control everything, and made a effort to correct said f up by making sure OP's college was paid for. Meanwhile, dad still blames OP for everything that transpired and takes ZERO accountability for his actions and the consequences that followed.
Time out, the OP is a grown ass man. There should be no expectation that his parents pay for him. He's not a child. The real problem is the lie used by the parents.
@@edwo6648Nah I think you need to time back in because Op is 17 so what tf are you talking about and if his parents had a college fund sat aside for his brother of course he’s going to think they did the same for him
The mother is as bad as his dad. As others pointed out she agreed to do it in the first place but only turned around when she they got found out. Not the best look. She sounds heavily reliant on her husband so i wouldnt trust a word of what she is writing him and take it as highly exagerated. No way she is breaking up with her husband as she agreed to lie to him in the first place. My guy needs to start being independent as soon as possible and be careful about his back. Dont trust them with his finances.
I didn't see it from this perspective after hearing the story, but I can definitely see this being a strong possibility, especially looking back at how the mom just did a complete 180 after OP found out despite having several chances to speak up beforehand when OP kept hinting at college. If I was OP, I'd use the mom to pay for my college finances and as soon as I graduate and start my career, pay back mom and go NC afterwards.
Yep, even their excuses don't hold water. They'll make their son take out a student loan and "pay him back", shouldn't the parents be taking out a loan. Maybe they aren't all that confident in golden child after all.
@@ronchum5178 After she was caught. She was a little to emphatic about not wanting to go along with this scheme, and there's noting to support any of it.
The OP's mother got her spine back, and that is good, the father and brother need to grow up. They are overgrown little boys, to say the least. Yes, she initially went alone with things, but obviously, she took a long hard look at how bad an idea it was.
Yes so true. Bystanders who have no stake in these things always seem to be so eager to permanently blow up families and can't wrap their minds around why the mother would hesitate. We don't know what was going on between her and her husband or why she went along with it. For all we know he was abusing her or threatening to end the marriage or giving her some kind of ultimatum. We will probably never know but I think the comments are too quick to name the mother the villain. Must be nice when people with happy families have no problem telling online strangers to end marriages or break ties with parents/children/Siblings at the first whiff of trouble with absolutely no fight.
It's fortunate for OP that the narcissistic older brother flapped his virtual mouth about the parents paying for his business, because if he would've not said anything, he very well could've gotten away with it and OP wouldn't have realized what happened until after brother's business started and flopped, then the whole family (except maybe OP because of his friends and their family taking care of him)would've been up shit's creek.
OP really shouldn't be so quick to forgive his mother. She's not blameless - even if she is remorseful. And given how the father was so quick to denounce OP AND her, she likely knew that her husband and other son wouldn't count her in the spoils of the business. So she latched onto OP as a safety net. I hope OP won't be blinded by maternal love and sets boundaries with his mother and makes her work for that redemption.
It would appear the brother was the golden child (to the father anyway) and mom more or less went along with it because the dad manipulated her into it and also likely due to the fact that the dad had significantly more resources at his disposal. Once OP made it clear that he intended to separate and lose contact with his parents, mom threw dad under the bus. She didn't care about her marriage anymore, she wasn't gonna sacrifice her relationship with OP for Dad's golden child. This is likely a dynamic that has been raging in the background of this family for years. Things just finally came to a head with dad's antics and blatant favoritism. It's also very likely that the brother's attitude towards OP was encouraged by the dad. Really screwed up mentalities.
@@abdelarch8038he did say “more or less” so he didn’t absolve her of all her responsibilities personally me I still wouldn’t go back but that just me and my ego mainly bc of the dad but the mom did try to do the right thing in the end even if she was wrong
Yeah both the parents seem like TA in this situation. The friends family was willing to pay for his college there was no need for the mom the cut off the brother completely in favor of OP, she just did the same thing to him that OP's father did to OP. And thats messed up. Maybe the brother and dad deserved it. I don't know, but it all seems kinda shitty IMO.
@@redsoulheart5040You seem pretry willing nilly about making the oarents of a friend wich are basically strangers take on an enormous expense on his behalf and having him be indebted to them because the parents plat favorites. Also the momisnt payinf favorite she's just finally being fair
OP is not favourite. If he was, mother would never agree to invest into older brother's business. She just likes OP enough to not want him to completely cut her off.
The mother wants the family dynamic back. The abusive parents dynamic requires that BOTH parents are wiling to participate in the abuse by playing their part. There is never an innocent part. Once OP left, the mother realized she would be the sacrificial lamb from there on, so she needs him back to play his part.
I wouldn't really say its abusive this is a pretty privileged child we are talking about here. TBF we have no idea what the business is and perhaps it really could succeed. The only bad thing is that the parents lied tbh.
@@TWhiteTiger IT really does, tbh. IDK if you come from money where people give each other money, or anything, but theres a million ways of viewing life. Some rich parents might not give any of their kids money once they hit 18. I'm not saying they are good people I just find it funny as to what the people like you are saying in these comments.
It really doesn't. Money doesn't make abuse impossible, although it might influence what KIND of abuse is brought into play. Physical abuse is cheap, emotional abuse is even cheaper, and you see those a lot in lower class families... but financial abuse, where money is used (offered and withdrawn arbitrarily) to control the abuse victim's life and choices is often the classic form abuse takes in the homes of the privileged, and OP's situation is a clear example of that. Similarly, parents who throw funds at kids in lieu of actually providing critical emotional support during their development, essentially financially-enabled neglect.
This isn't a "golden child" situation. OP's dad has made it clear that it's not because he favours the eldest son inherently, he's doing this for the money. At every stage, he has bragged or mentioned how much money 'they' will get out of investing in OP's brother and the fact he even went on as a partner should showcase how this isn't about familial love and is all about greed.
Yeah but he is stupid if he is so sure that the Golden Child will make that much money because It seems he is very entitled and full of himself which can be dangerous
@@matheusmendes5488 Which (and I'm giving the dad a lot of credit here) is probably why he signed on as a partner. He clearly - at least for the last few years - sees the eldest son as a potential purse or meal ticket that will get him the life and money he wants. He's a shit dad to both of his kids.
Anyone else remember that story from a couple years ago where Op and his sisters all had an inheritance from their grandparents, and mom convinced dad to use Op’s inheritance to bail the sisters all out of trouble? Kinda what this story reminded me of. Also Dad isn’t sorry at all, he’s only sorry that there were consequences to his actions.
Imho a lot of people in the comments are pretty harsh on the mother, she was clearly in the wrong, but ended up doing the right thing, helping pay for op's studies, even though that would end up with op's father and brother turning against her, also the way op tells the story it’s quite likely that she was manipulated by the father to go along with him, not knowing her husband’s plans from the start, which doesn’t make her innocent but it explains her side and it was worth it enough for op to give her a second chance, and she had to sacrifice a lot to get it. The only sad thing is that she still tries to keep her marriage with a man like the father.
Towards the end of the story, it seems like Dad couldn't give a rat's ass either way if he ever talks to OP again or not, especially since he blames OP for his wife being extremely resentful towards him even though it was his own fault.
Thinking of his mom as someone he can count on, man is lying to himself, she felt bad but still threw him under to applease her husband and his favorite child, only reason she is trying to make things right is because OP found out, she was on board with letting him get buried in studet loan debt as long as he did not know about the investing, she could have borrowed the money from her parents from the start... op will be in for a rude awakening
I would not waste my child’s future over medical payments for an unrepentant gambling addict. You can support someone in other ways that are not financial (spending time speaking with social workers, signing up for services, et ). Dad is just a dunce. (I know it was actually spent on the brother and the rest was a lie, I just think even if it were true, it was lame)
Because the dad sees himself in the uncle. Op explain in his comments that there was a similar situation in the past that contributed on why the uncle's children don't talk to him. And OP's dad is probably the one that got resources the other involved didn't. The uncle paid for a lot of things for OP's dad and wasted his money that should go to his children.
Why do people automatically think going to business school is a guaranteed ticket to success and wealth? Or that if they do have success they will be seeing immediate returns on their investment, let alone profits? The brother is in for a huge wake up call with his piss poor attitude and short sightedness, and dad is going to realize rather quickly he backed a bum horse.
Like im not even going to business school but I do know that to be a successful business person, you need to be well connected with others and that includes having a very good behavior that others will appreciate, being a doormat will get you trampled on but a showoff and pompous will be avoided like the plauge. If the brother doesnt accept even a spoonful of humbleness i doubt he will have an successful business life in the long term
@@captain_asaurus4972 I mean she pretty much went with it until dude ran away so doubt she would've stood up for him if he didn't run away but fair point
No imagine your parents lying, going behind your back, coming with excuses to cover up their plan, not helping you with college while your bother had fully paid through college and investors as their parents, and your parents don't help you with college. Op ain't no snowflake
@@mokkorista Yeah I really hate how people judge others so harshly and call them "doormat" and stuff like that like bro you do not even know the guy. Upbringing and childhood which you have no control over has a HUGE impact on stuff like these. The people who say these things are usually the most privileged in life.
I wouldn’t have gone back home. They guilt tripped him and he fell for it. When they do it again and he comes crying back here then idk we’ll all just say “we told you so. You shouldn’t have gone back, she manipulated you and your pops doesn’t give 2 craps about you”
So… even if the story about paying for the sick uncle were true… that all happened like a year ago. And his father waited until the last minute to tell him. That’s just rude. It’s too late to apply for the smaller scholarships, since those generally go to students who were in certain clubs, or competed in certain contests.
your mother loves you, you can tell from the way you described her reactions when your dad lied she wanted to scream it from the top of buildings,not that it makes it ok. sometimes a partner will go with things because its not the time or moment and they know there partner they know if or when they'll get over it and your mom probably thought your dad would sleep on it and decide against it but by the time she realized he wasnt whe was in to deep and scared
You take your friends' parents up on their offer to help you with college and then you turn around after you get a really good job and you pay that family back in spades and you turn around and you totally snub your family with every fiber of your being
If it were me, I would let the parents know exactly what they are which is liar's and cowards. I never asked for a penny from my family. I put myself through college and suffered 3 jobs and anything I could do on the side to make money to pay off my stuff while I was attending school. I think I left school with 11k in debt and paid that off within my first year of work. Still, if I had a brother and that happened, and they lied to me. I have 0 tolerance for liars, if they show the capacity to do that and be dishonest then I wouldn't have anything to do with them. I would lay out everything that the brother has done to me over the years and stuff and just let it be known. Then I would disappear and do whatever it took to succeed at the field I chose.
Or...they both knew that their youngest was a whiny little bitch and would do something like what he ended up doing if they told him the truth outright. So they tried and failed to dodge a bullet. Yes, they should not have lie. They should have been better parents along the way.
What kind of business was the brother trying to start that would make his father think it would be an instant success. And the father was talking about everything like it was a sure thing. It's nice the mom told the truth but she should have done so from the beginning instead of enabling her husband and letting things get so bad because of his and OP's brothers selfishness.
graduating in a top business school even with honors which the brother probably doesn't have... won't gurantee a successful business... starting a new business is extremely hard and requires a lot off effort and sacrifice if the brother can't even work and not complain how the hell would he run a business... and the parents think it'd be successful? how is that logical. starting a business requires extreme amount of grit and patience which sounds like the brother doesn't have with the complaining. then they bet their money on that. mom is just as bad as the dad.
Using the cancer of the uncle as an original excuse is scumbag stuff. I would have taken the money from the rich friends famialy just to see how it went
We also have to remember that these stories generally do not originate in the United States. These are usually from Asia. The social culture there is very different than it is in the US.
I may have a Solution to the money problem to lessen it from her parents if possible even tho it’s already paid if more money is needed mom pays what she can and if the friends family offer is still up they can pay the rest be to repay then do something for them😅tbh have a feeling from their tone they’d probably say “keep being a good friend to our kid” cause at this point every chance is up in the air
Hope the dad and the brother has fall back money everybody should know that first business adventure fails and plus if they have other people invested in it wishful 💭 never not good because if there’s competitors
The father needs to stop playing favorites and do right by both of his sons and be done with it wholeheartedly and maybe his marriage won't be in such turmoil down the line and as far as his own brother is concerned, he needs to quit being a chump of a stuck up jerk off of a businessman and an employee to his former co-workers in the end run.
OP seemed entitled as hell in the story. He basically bankrupted his mother so he wouldn't have to work for his tuition. The level of selfishness is unreal.
This! All I hear in the story is "me, me, me, me!" "I EXPECTED my parents to have tens of thousands of dollars set aside so I can get a psyche degree that is only slightly less worthless than a gender studies degree." "I am the victim here!" Please! OP is a massive bitch!
The mother is terrible but the father is dog water. He's just using the forest son as a pay checkm I doubt he cares about either of his kids, but throwing the younger son under the bridge was convenient.
NTA. Tey made their bed, and now they got to lie in it. And your mother is at fault too. She chose to lie to you for her husband. She could have chones not to lie.
Fives years up date dad and brother are homeless I got a job in my field and taken care of mom in my house and my parents are divorced my dad and brother are stopping by and keeps asking for money but won’t apologize or admit they were wrong
What is with parents waiting to the last minute to tell their kids no college funds for them? Like is you are going to be an ass or genuinely don't have the money say it first year of HS at the latest.
I hate stories like this lol. Maybe it’s just the kind of person I am but I expected this to end with OP being a not-so-forgiving person (like I am) and just cut off the entire family and should have just accepted the offer from his friend’s parents. I just don’t feel satisfied with this lol but hey that’s just me.
Both parents are equally guilty! The mother was easily swayed by the father and brothers words over her other son's for an obviously cruel plan to make money leaving him in the dust. Now that op left, she 'just' started feeling guilty and regretting everything about it... screw that! He should have just moved on and worked it out on his own finding a job and getting a loan to show he didn't need their help and support himself. He should have told them later on while in college that he forgives them so he doesn't have to hold onto the hatred, but he will NEVER forget what they did so when he becomes a parent, he will never do that to his kids making sure the parents knew they f***ked up for that they did to him.
I'm sorry, but springing 'We'd prefer you pay your own way through college' is not something you can reasonably spring on a 17-year-old who's already gotten an acceptance letter after leaving them under the impression that you'd cover them for 16 fucking years. If you're going to pull that kind of shit, it needs to happen YEARS earlier so that they can chart a course that won't need your backing. By springing it on them so late, you're actually saying 'We prefer you not be able to afford college'.
You didn't ruin their marriage he did and she did they did it to themselves you didn't don't go back home there is nothing for you there they're going to keep doing their crap and they're going to keep putting themselves against each other and against you and using you because that's what they do
OP was an idiot for leaving without a confrontation about the brother's post. there definitely could've been a perfectly innocent explanation, including that the brother just straight up lied about where he got his money from. if anyone tries to argue that it was okay because the dad was lying all this time, then just shut up before you comment and make yourself look like a massive idiot
Sorry, but the beginning is realy odd. OP said he and his parents never spoke about it. He announced that he starts to apply and wonders that they never spoke about the fees. He just thought, they would just give him the money. That sounds very sus for me. There could be thousands of reasons, why the couldnt pay but he was never going to ask them in the first place if they would pay for his further education. He just thinks, that hes entitled to. The whole story is about four selfish people. I think OP is selfish too, because otherwise he wouldnt have forgiven his mother so easyly. All of them just wanted the best outcome for themselfs. Yeah his family did him dirty, but he is no better.
I’m sorry, but I would not be talking to my mom either along with my father and brother. To put this simply just like you would say to a two-year-old who starts crying when you notice what they did. You are not sorry truly about what you did, you are sorry that you got caught. His mom was willing to agree with it stream you along for a couple of weeks or months, knowing that you were accepted to college. She was willing to allow her husband, your father to lie to you to your face in front of her about the reasons why they wouldn’t do the same for you like they did your brother. She even backed him up on what she was saying so it’s not even the point that she allowed it to happen. She also contributed. And did not say anything for days or weeks afterward until she knew you found out. Unless your father put her in an arm bar, the amount of IDC coming from your mom is palpable. She cares because now it directly affects her because you are hurt and you are going to be treating her differently based upon what she did to you and your father did follow intense purposes she is just as guilty as your father the only differences she has a lot more remorse. and I don’t know if it’s petty, but I would not give her a time or day to apologize and tell her I’ll see you in a couple years when I’m ready. And I will guarantee that it would at least be 2 to 5 years.
How’s he gonna pay back his mom with a psych degree? Maybe if he goes to med school and becomes a psychiatrist, but then how’s he gonna pay for med school?
I think there is a misunderstanding here: they had money for a college fund just not for that particular choice of studies. Remember that, today, “psychology“ in the US is more likely to mean under water decolonial feminist dance therapy via braid weaving than the actual field of psychology and they may not have wanted to use their hard earned income for that.
The minute OP said psychology it clicked. I would either make my kid switch majors to something that made money or tell them to pay it themselves as psychology doesn’t make money.
The OP is a cry baby, sorry but all that wording (if even a true story) show that Op is not mature in any kind to get in to his chosen field. What’s showing is the wording in the end, focus on fun and get most out of the experience. Also I doubt the rich parents of a friends somehow, this all screams fiction.
The degree of entitlement in this person is next level. Parents are obligated to take care of you until 18 and that's it. Anything beyond that is entirely extra on their part, you are not entitled to any of it. Raising a child from birth to 18 yrs old is expensive. As for the mother part - doesn't that include HER savings too? Are we supposed to believe that she just gave her savings to the cause of her husbands uncle over her own son? I can't see how anyone would believe that for a second, certainly not without asking her directly.
I don't think the narrator should have expected a college fund. The brother college payment was a business investment that the parents expected back, and it sounded like the narrator wasn't confident in making money after college. If you want to go to college for something that won't make money, then you need to pay for it your own way. Get scholarships. That's what I'm doing.
@yunisblu3412 that's what I was thinking, but then the parents were bragging about how they would get money in return from the brother to their coworkers
Parents were wrong definitely. Lie is always wrong. Running away from home, endangering his parents marriage. Op forced his mother to pay for his college. He is entitled, egocentric and childish.
the first 3 mins is just entitlement over assumptions. what if your brother needs the extra help? did you even try for scholarships? sounds like you didnt honestly.
lol OP thinking they're a victim lol nah you assumed and got burnt. what's that saying when you assume? sadly people in the comments are just as bad as OP. OP didn't work for that money it is a parents choice to help or not. If any of my kids acted like OP id file a police report for them running away just to spite them, then double down and say they were disinherited and no longer a family member. Actions have consequences.
This is why I will be telling my kids right when they get to high school that I will only be paying for a real degree. If they’d like to work retail, they can do so without a psych degree.
@@LolyMoly95History is also a degree. These are interests, not career paths. Maybe with a doctorate, but that’s, like 5% or less of people who start with a psych undergrad and at least 8 years of schooling. I said it above and I’ll say it again, you don’t need a psych degree to work retail.
My opinion... I don't think OP shouldve gone back to his parents. Because now it all just gets summarised as OP throwing a tantrum to get what he wants from mommy. What I think shouldve happened, is OP couldve atleast gone back to his mom and forgive her, as it sounds like she was truly remorseful, but he should not have taken her money. I think OP shouldve stuck to getting financial aid outside the family... so that the brother still gets all the funding from the parents. Then when the business inevitably fails, the brother cant throw the blame on OP. Because now... the brother can blame OP for the business failing because he "couldnt get all the funds he wouldve gotten in the first place, because OP threw a tantrum and made mom withdraw from the business". So, OP should not go back home, but he can be on speaking terms with his mother and forgive her. Do not take their money. Instead work a job and or graciously accept the aid from his friends. Show that he can stick to his guns and didnt do any of this particularly just to "get his way"
Dad plans to ruin his sons entire future and is butthurt that he in turn is ruining his marriage. He deserves much worse.
and for investing in the older son's business that sounds like it's gonna fail cause older son is a narcissistic jackass. If you really think about it, things very well could've been worse for the dad and the family overall if OP never found out about the parents investing in older brother's future failed business until it was too late.
Dad and Mom. Mom just started to feel guilty
its both your parents fault not only your dad, your mother enabled a grown ass man and now she reeling over her decisions.
Yes it's both of their faults, but at least OP's mom realized how badly she f'd up by being a spineless coward who let the dad control everything, and made a effort to correct said f up by making sure OP's college was paid for. Meanwhile, dad still blames OP for everything that transpired and takes ZERO accountability for his actions and the consequences that followed.
Time out, the OP is a grown ass man. There should be no expectation that his parents pay for him. He's not a child. The real problem is the lie used by the parents.
@@edwo6648Nah I think you need to time back in because Op is 17 so what tf are you talking about and if his parents had a college fund sat aside for his brother of course he’s going to think they did the same for him
@@edwo6648Op is 17
@@edwo6648 actually he is still a kid he's only 17
The mother is as bad as his dad. As others pointed out she agreed to do it in the first place but only turned around when she they got found out. Not the best look. She sounds heavily reliant on her husband so i wouldnt trust a word of what she is writing him and take it as highly exagerated. No way she is breaking up with her husband as she agreed to lie to him in the first place. My guy needs to start being independent as soon as possible and be careful about his back. Dont trust them with his finances.
I didn't see it from this perspective after hearing the story, but I can definitely see this being a strong possibility, especially looking back at how the mom just did a complete 180 after OP found out despite having several chances to speak up beforehand when OP kept hinting at college. If I was OP, I'd use the mom to pay for my college finances and as soon as I graduate and start my career, pay back mom and go NC afterwards.
Yep, even their excuses don't hold water. They'll make their son take out a student loan and "pay him back", shouldn't the parents be taking out a loan. Maybe they aren't all that confident in golden child after all.
How is she as bad as the father if she actually recognized that it was wrong, and took responsibility, and is trying to make it right?
@@ronchum5178 After she was caught. She was a little to emphatic about not wanting to go along with this scheme, and there's noting to support any of it.
She is bad, but definitely not as bad as the dad.
The OP's mother got her spine back, and that is good, the father and brother need to grow up. They are overgrown little boys, to say the least. Yes, she initially went alone with things, but obviously, she took a long hard look at how bad an idea it was.
No one needs to grow up. It's not a matter of maturity at all.
@@arhael3594 , how so?
Yes so true. Bystanders who have no stake in these things always seem to be so eager to permanently blow up families and can't wrap their minds around why the mother would hesitate. We don't know what was going on between her and her husband or why she went along with it. For all we know he was abusing her or threatening to end the marriage or giving her some kind of ultimatum. We will probably never know but I think the comments are too quick to name the mother the villain. Must be nice when people with happy families have no problem telling online strangers to end marriages or break ties with parents/children/Siblings at the first whiff of trouble with absolutely no fight.
@@arhael3594 theres a difference between being a mature adult, and being an immature manchild
It's fortunate for OP that the narcissistic older brother flapped his virtual mouth about the parents paying for his business, because if he would've not said anything, he very well could've gotten away with it and OP wouldn't have realized what happened until after brother's business started and flopped, then the whole family (except maybe OP because of his friends and their family taking care of him)would've been up shit's creek.
OP really shouldn't be so quick to forgive his mother. She's not blameless - even if she is remorseful. And given how the father was so quick to denounce OP AND her, she likely knew that her husband and other son wouldn't count her in the spoils of the business. So she latched onto OP as a safety net.
I hope OP won't be blinded by maternal love and sets boundaries with his mother and makes her work for that redemption.
It would appear the brother was the golden child (to the father anyway) and mom more or less went along with it because the dad manipulated her into it and also likely due to the fact that the dad had significantly more resources at his disposal. Once OP made it clear that he intended to separate and lose contact with his parents, mom threw dad under the bus. She didn't care about her marriage anymore, she wasn't gonna sacrifice her relationship with OP for Dad's golden child. This is likely a dynamic that has been raging in the background of this family for years. Things just finally came to a head with dad's antics and blatant favoritism. It's also very likely that the brother's attitude towards OP was encouraged by the dad. Really screwed up mentalities.
Of course, the mom is absolved of all responsibility
@@abdelarch8038he did say “more or less” so he didn’t absolve her of all her responsibilities personally me I still wouldn’t go back but that just me and my ego mainly bc of the dad but the mom did try to do the right thing in the end even if she was wrong
Nah, she’s just as responsible
@@TheMainMan364she was manipulated into this. She can’t be responsible for it if she was manipulated
@@axinhedgelion8417 nah, she’s a grown woman. Stop treating her as a child lol.
So, the father has a favorite and it's the brother and the mother also has a favorite and apparently, it's OP.
Yeah both the parents seem like TA in this situation. The friends family was willing to pay for his college there was no need for the mom the cut off the brother completely in favor of OP, she just did the same thing to him that OP's father did to OP. And thats messed up. Maybe the brother and dad deserved it. I don't know, but it all seems kinda shitty IMO.
@@redsoulheart5040 if what he described his brother is at least 50% truthful that bussines was gonna fail, that actitude is bad for bussines
@@redsoulheart5040You seem pretry willing nilly about making the oarents of a friend wich are basically strangers take on an enormous expense on his behalf and having him be indebted to them because the parents plat favorites. Also the momisnt payinf favorite she's just finally being fair
OP is not favourite. If he was, mother would never agree to invest into older brother's business. She just likes OP enough to not want him to completely cut her off.
@@arhael3594OP’s father never really gave OP’s mother a choice
The mother wants the family dynamic back. The abusive parents dynamic requires that BOTH parents are wiling to participate in the abuse by playing their part. There is never an innocent part. Once OP left, the mother realized she would be the sacrificial lamb from there on, so she needs him back to play his part.
I wouldn't really say its abusive this is a pretty privileged child we are talking about here. TBF we have no idea what the business is and perhaps it really could succeed. The only bad thing is that the parents lied tbh.
@@ryvulet8639 Privileged or not, family dynamics exist and follow rules. And money doesn't exclude abuse.
@@TWhiteTiger IT really does, tbh. IDK if you come from money where people give each other money, or anything, but theres a million ways of viewing life. Some rich parents might not give any of their kids money once they hit 18. I'm not saying they are good people I just find it funny as to what the people like you are saying in these comments.
It really doesn't. Money doesn't make abuse impossible, although it might influence what KIND of abuse is brought into play. Physical abuse is cheap, emotional abuse is even cheaper, and you see those a lot in lower class families... but financial abuse, where money is used (offered and withdrawn arbitrarily) to control the abuse victim's life and choices is often the classic form abuse takes in the homes of the privileged, and OP's situation is a clear example of that. Similarly, parents who throw funds at kids in lieu of actually providing critical emotional support during their development, essentially financially-enabled neglect.
These stories always have a friend with rich parents offering to pay for college.
Seriously like I want that kind of friend 😂
Or a lawyer friend/relative that will immediately help the OP with the divorce/lawsuit
This isn't a "golden child" situation. OP's dad has made it clear that it's not because he favours the eldest son inherently, he's doing this for the money.
At every stage, he has bragged or mentioned how much money 'they' will get out of investing in OP's brother and the fact he even went on as a partner should showcase how this isn't about familial love and is all about greed.
Yeah but he is stupid if he is so sure that the Golden Child will make that much money because It seems he is very entitled and full of himself which can be dangerous
@@matheusmendes5488 Which (and I'm giving the dad a lot of credit here) is probably why he signed on as a partner. He clearly - at least for the last few years - sees the eldest son as a potential purse or meal ticket that will get him the life and money he wants.
He's a shit dad to both of his kids.
How great is his business idea if the only investors he can get is his parents?
It's extremely difficult to get investors that are not parents even if it's a good business idea.
The worst part is, he's been so coddled that when it will come to get investors other than his parents, his cockiness will be his downfall
@@Saladass21795 you know the dad is already worried about it if he had to take an active roll as a partner
Ikr
Anyone else remember that story from a couple years ago where Op and his sisters all had an inheritance from their grandparents, and mom convinced dad to use Op’s inheritance to bail the sisters all out of trouble?
Kinda what this story reminded me of.
Also Dad isn’t sorry at all, he’s only sorry that there were consequences to his actions.
I remember that one. The sisters had kids and medical bills and OPs money was squandered on them and their mistakes.
Imho a lot of people in the comments are pretty harsh on the mother, she was clearly in the wrong, but ended up doing the right thing, helping pay for op's studies, even though that would end up with op's father and brother turning against her, also the way op tells the story it’s quite likely that she was manipulated by the father to go along with him, not knowing her husband’s plans from the start, which doesn’t make her innocent but it explains her side and it was worth it enough for op to give her a second chance, and she had to sacrifice a lot to get it. The only sad thing is that she still tries to keep her marriage with a man like the father.
Play favoritism games, get c-t off as a prize.
Towards the end of the story, it seems like Dad couldn't give a rat's ass either way if he ever talks to OP again or not, especially since he blames OP for his wife being extremely resentful towards him even though it was his own fault.
@@Devilish420 She's at fault too for being a doormat and an enabler.
Thinking of his mom as someone he can count on, man is lying to himself, she felt bad but still threw him under to applease her husband and his favorite child, only reason she is trying to make things right is because OP found out, she was on board with letting him get buried in studet loan debt as long as he did not know about the investing, she could have borrowed the money from her parents from the start... op will be in for a rude awakening
His dad would come back to OP after business fails or whn his brother kick his dad out. ✨
What if OP father is not his father? That might be a reason why he treats him that way
I would not waste my child’s future over medical payments for an unrepentant gambling addict. You can support someone in other ways that are not financial (spending time speaking with social workers, signing up for services, et ). Dad is just a dunce. (I know it was actually spent on the brother and the rest was a lie, I just think even if it were true, it was lame)
Because the dad sees himself in the uncle. Op explain in his comments that there was a similar situation in the past that contributed on why the uncle's children don't talk to him. And OP's dad is probably the one that got resources the other involved didn't. The uncle paid for a lot of things for OP's dad and wasted his money that should go to his children.
Why do people automatically think going to business school is a guaranteed ticket to success and wealth? Or that if they do have success they will be seeing immediate returns on their investment, let alone profits? The brother is in for a huge wake up call with his piss poor attitude and short sightedness, and dad is going to realize rather quickly he backed a bum horse.
Like im not even going to business school but I do know that to be a successful business person, you need to be well connected with others and that includes having a very good behavior that others will appreciate, being a doormat will get you trampled on but a showoff and pompous will be avoided like the plauge. If the brother doesnt accept even a spoonful of humbleness i doubt he will have an successful business life in the long term
Would rather take the friend offer and pay them back later instead of this
Damn..who knew parent could be like that
You didn't even listen to the full story
Everyone.
There's atleast 7 more similar stories just on this page my guy
@@rem9367 atleast in this story one of the parent had some common sense
@@captain_asaurus4972 I mean she pretty much went with it until dude ran away so doubt she would've stood up for him if he didn't run away but fair point
Uh mom. Your no angel in this matter. Hold Dad accountable 100%, but mom needs to be held accountable also.
OP didn't get his way and threw a fit and stomped off! The only thing Mom and dad need to be accountable for is the snowflake they raised!
No imagine your parents lying, going behind your back, coming with excuses to cover up their plan, not helping you with college while your bother had fully paid through college and investors as their parents, and your parents don't help you with college. Op ain't no snowflake
OOP inherited his mom’s doormat genes
Coming from someone who was favoured all their life.
@@mokkorista Yeah I really hate how people judge others so harshly and call them "doormat" and stuff like that like bro you do not even know the guy. Upbringing and childhood which you have no control over has a HUGE impact on stuff like these. The people who say these things are usually the most privileged in life.
@@FelixAcadiapeople online always feel compelled to hate and justify their hate for anything/anyone different than what they like/agree with.
Been there before. I wasn't always the favorite, but I still got to deal with it. It pains me to this day.
It okay bro
It's a canon event for your character development
I’m just waiting for the brothers business to fail and the dad come crawling back
Wait until they will go bank corrupt 😭
I wouldn’t have gone back home. They guilt tripped him and he fell for it. When they do it again and he comes crying back here then idk we’ll all just say “we told you so. You shouldn’t have gone back, she manipulated you and your pops doesn’t give 2 craps about you”
Thank goodness She has great friends
gonna take op a hella long time to pay back with a psych degree lmao
Unless if he goes to the military to do a psychology job there 🤣
Mom sounds more "sorry she got caught".
So… even if the story about paying for the sick uncle were true… that all happened like a year ago. And his father waited until the last minute to tell him. That’s just rude. It’s too late to apply for the smaller scholarships, since those generally go to students who were in certain clubs, or competed in certain contests.
your mother loves you, you can tell from the way you described her reactions when your dad lied she wanted to scream it from the top of buildings,not that it makes it ok. sometimes a partner will go with things because its not the time or moment and they know there partner they know if or when they'll get over it and your mom probably thought your dad would sleep on it and decide against it but by the time she realized he wasnt whe was in to deep and scared
You take your friends' parents up on their offer to help you with college and then you turn around after you get a really good job and you pay that family back in spades and you turn around and you totally snub your family with every fiber of your being
Sounds like the first child was planned, and the second son was Mom's child. Six years is a large gap.
Hope there's an update to all of this, I feel terrible for OP :(
The mother was as bad as the father but she did do the right thing in the end to make up for her mistake.
3:10 he forgot to add "In America. Land of the free."
OP mom is doormat for her husband and what if his business doesn't work out from the sounds if it OP brother doesn't treat people right
A woman should be a doormat to her husband
Sounds like that marriage was gonna start crumbling anyway
Stay away from both of them! They are toxic!
If it were me, I would let the parents know exactly what they are which is liar's and cowards. I never asked for a penny from my family. I put myself through college and suffered 3 jobs and anything I could do on the side to make money to pay off my stuff while I was attending school. I think I left school with 11k in debt and paid that off within my first year of work. Still, if I had a brother and that happened, and they lied to me. I have 0 tolerance for liars, if they show the capacity to do that and be dishonest then I wouldn't have anything to do with them. I would lay out everything that the brother has done to me over the years and stuff and just let it be known. Then I would disappear and do whatever it took to succeed at the field I chose.
Or...they both knew that their youngest was a whiny little bitch and would do something like what he ended up doing if they told him the truth outright. So they tried and failed to dodge a bullet. Yes, they should not have lie. They should have been better parents along the way.
What kind of business was the brother trying to start that would make his father think it would be an instant success. And the father was talking about everything like it was a sure thing. It's nice the mom told the truth but she should have done so from the beginning instead of enabling her husband and letting things get so bad because of his and OP's brothers selfishness.
graduating in a top business school even with honors which the brother probably doesn't have... won't gurantee a successful business... starting a new business is extremely hard and requires a lot off effort and sacrifice if the brother can't even work and not complain how the hell would he run a business... and the parents think it'd be successful? how is that logical. starting a business requires extreme amount of grit and patience which sounds like the brother doesn't have with the complaining. then they bet their money on that. mom is just as bad as the dad.
the mom sounds like a cheater .... they dont regret lying, they regret getting caught
I was waiting for part 2 of the story where the dad and the brother lost everything and OP was successful and they had to come to them for money
Using the cancer of the uncle as an original excuse is scumbag stuff. I would have taken the money from the rich friends famialy just to see how it went
We also have to remember that these stories generally do not originate in the United States. These are usually from Asia. The social culture there is very different than it is in the US.
I may have a Solution to the money problem to lessen it from her parents if possible even tho it’s already paid if more money is needed mom pays what she can and if the friends family offer is still up they can pay the rest be to repay then do something for them😅tbh have a feeling from their tone they’d probably say “keep being a good friend to our kid” cause at this point every chance is up in the air
Hope the dad and the brother has fall back money everybody should know that first business adventure fails and plus if they have other people invested in it wishful 💭 never not good because if there’s competitors
Op: I missed the part where that's my problem.
The father needs to stop playing favorites and do right by both of his sons and be done with it wholeheartedly and maybe his marriage won't be in such turmoil down the line and as far as his own brother is concerned, he needs to quit being a chump of a stuck up jerk off of a businessman and an employee to his former co-workers in the end run.
I really hope the brother's business fails. They'll probably still blame OP for it, dad will continue to invest in brother's ideas, then keep failing.
I think leaving was a bit overkill and that is leading to the divorce
OP seemed entitled as hell in the story. He basically bankrupted his mother so he wouldn't have to work for his tuition. The level of selfishness is unreal.
This! All I hear in the story is "me, me, me, me!"
"I EXPECTED my parents to have tens of thousands of dollars set aside so I can get a psyche degree that is only slightly less worthless than a gender studies degree."
"I am the victim here!"
Please! OP is a massive bitch!
The mother is terrible but the father is dog water. He's just using the forest son as a pay checkm I doubt he cares about either of his kids, but throwing the younger son under the bridge was convenient.
NTA. Tey made their bed, and now they got to lie in it. And your mother is at fault too. She chose to lie to you for her husband. She could have chones not to lie.
Is the OP sure that’s his dad???
Fives years up date dad and brother are homeless I got a job in my field and taken care of mom in my house and my parents are divorced my dad and brother are stopping by and keeps asking for money but won’t apologize or admit they were wrong
What is with parents waiting to the last minute to tell their kids no college funds for them? Like is you are going to be an ass or genuinely don't have the money say it first year of HS at the latest.
I hate stories like this lol. Maybe it’s just the kind of person I am but I expected this to end with OP being a not-so-forgiving person (like I am) and just cut off the entire family and should have just accepted the offer from his friend’s parents. I just don’t feel satisfied with this lol but hey that’s just me.
Both parents are equally guilty! The mother was easily swayed by the father and brothers words over her other son's for an obviously cruel plan to make money leaving him in the dust.
Now that op left, she 'just' started feeling guilty and regretting everything about it... screw that! He should have just moved on and worked it out on his own finding a job and getting a loan to show he didn't need their help and support himself.
He should have told them later on while in college that he forgives them so he doesn't have to hold onto the hatred, but he will NEVER forget what they did so when he becomes a parent, he will never do that to his kids making sure the parents knew they f***ked up for that they did to him.
So far the title alone sounds very manipulating on moms part
*Where's The Video With The Rest Of The Updates!*
Forget college get a trade job no debt 100k-200k a year
Don't go back that's a toxic family.
The mother lies.
I'm sorry, but springing 'We'd prefer you pay your own way through college' is not something you can reasonably spring on a 17-year-old who's already gotten an acceptance letter after leaving them under the impression that you'd cover them for 16 fucking years.
If you're going to pull that kind of shit, it needs to happen YEARS earlier so that they can chart a course that won't need your backing. By springing it on them so late, you're actually saying 'We prefer you not be able to afford college'.
Both parents failed. Divorce is coming and dad is going to lose a lot of money in alimony (That's why couples therapy) adn well deserved.
You didn't ruin their marriage he did and she did they did it to themselves you didn't don't go back home there is nothing for you there they're going to keep doing their crap and they're going to keep putting themselves against each other and against you and using you because that's what they do
College is overrated.
OP was an idiot for leaving without a confrontation about the brother's post. there definitely could've been a perfectly innocent explanation, including that the brother just straight up lied about where he got his money from. if anyone tries to argue that it was okay because the dad was lying all this time, then just shut up before you comment and make yourself look like a massive idiot
If I was your dad I wouldn’t pay either u wasting money in psychology 😂
Sorry, but the beginning is realy odd. OP said he and his parents never spoke about it. He announced that he starts to apply and wonders that they never spoke about the fees. He just thought, they would just give him the money. That sounds very sus for me. There could be thousands of reasons, why the couldnt pay but he was never going to ask them in the first place if they would pay for his further education. He just thinks, that hes entitled to. The whole story is about four selfish people. I think OP is selfish too, because otherwise he wouldnt have forgiven his mother so easyly. All of them just wanted the best outcome for themselfs. Yeah his family did him dirty, but he is no better.
Do it for Dan energy
The mom is at fault too but you just bought her sob story man
This is the same story posted a few weeks ago ☠️
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@@Terrible-animator no, this story hasn't been posted on this channel before.
I’m sorry, but I would not be talking to my mom either along with my father and brother. To put this simply just like you would say to a two-year-old who starts crying when you notice what they did. You are not sorry truly about what you did, you are sorry that you got caught. His mom was willing to agree with it stream you along for a couple of weeks or months, knowing that you were accepted to college. She was willing to allow her husband, your father to lie to you to your face in front of her about the reasons why they wouldn’t do the same for you like they did your brother. She even backed him up on what she was saying so it’s not even the point that she allowed it to happen. She also contributed. And did not say anything for days or weeks afterward until she knew you found out. Unless your father put her in an arm bar, the amount of IDC coming from your mom is palpable. She cares because now it directly affects her because you are hurt and you are going to be treating her differently based upon what she did to you and your father did follow intense purposes she is just as guilty as your father the only differences she has a lot more remorse. and I don’t know if it’s petty, but I would not give her a time or day to apologize and tell her I’ll see you in a couple years when I’m ready. And I will guarantee that it would at least be 2 to 5 years.
How’s he gonna pay back his mom with a psych degree? Maybe if he goes to med school and becomes a psychiatrist, but then how’s he gonna pay for med school?
I think there is a misunderstanding here: they had money for a college fund just not for that particular choice of studies. Remember that, today, “psychology“ in the US is more likely to mean under water decolonial feminist dance therapy via braid weaving than the actual field of psychology and they may not have wanted to use their hard earned income for that.
Exactly! It's like the third most useless degree behind gender studies or dance theory.
I don’t know i feel like this is a fake story
The minute OP said psychology it clicked. I would either make my kid switch majors to something that made money or tell them to pay it themselves as psychology doesn’t make money.
The OP is a cry baby, sorry but all that wording (if even a true story) show that Op is not mature in any kind to get in to his chosen field. What’s showing is the wording in the end, focus on fun and get most out of the experience. Also I doubt the rich parents of a friends somehow, this all screams fiction.
One of the few times, I agree for the court to be unfair if she divorces him
The degree of entitlement in this person is next level.
Parents are obligated to take care of you until 18 and that's it.
Anything beyond that is entirely extra on their part, you are not entitled to any of it.
Raising a child from birth to 18 yrs old is expensive.
As for the mother part - doesn't that include HER savings too?
Are we supposed to believe that she just gave her savings to the cause of her husbands uncle over her own son?
I can't see how anyone would believe that for a second, certainly not without asking her directly.
I agree but lying is pretty fucked up tbh
No
2 minutes in and already constant repetition is driving me mad
At 17 you aren't running away, you are making your parents lives easier and more enjoyable by getting rid of an entitled leech.
College=time and money wasted you could pay off that loan in one swoop and still somehow owe money the rest of your life
Am i the only one that thinks the OP seems very fucking entitled
Nope. We all caught that in the first 30 seconds of the post.
I don't think the narrator should have expected a college fund. The brother college payment was a business investment that the parents expected back, and it sounded like the narrator wasn't confident in making money after college. If you want to go to college for something that won't make money, then you need to pay for it your own way. Get scholarships. That's what I'm doing.
Or your parents just don’t give a f*#k enough to invest in you regardless of whether they’re getting anything in return.
@yunisblu3412 that's what I was thinking, but then the parents were bragging about how they would get money in return from the brother to their coworkers
Parents were wrong definitely. Lie is always wrong. Running away from home, endangering his parents marriage. Op forced his mother to pay for his college. He is entitled, egocentric and childish.
wow the entitlement of the OP is over 9000 . "i expected them to have a college fund" lmao even if they did you wouldnt deserve it lol
the first 3 mins is just entitlement over assumptions. what if your brother needs the extra help? did you even try for scholarships? sounds like you didnt honestly.
lol OP thinking they're a victim lol nah you assumed and got burnt. what's that saying when you assume? sadly people in the comments are just as bad as OP. OP didn't work for that money it is a parents choice to help or not. If any of my kids acted like OP id file a police report for them running away just to spite them, then double down and say they were disinherited and no longer a family member. Actions have consequences.
I will never do these kind of things when i become a mom
No wonder the parents didn’t give him money… psychology major lmao
This is why I will be telling my kids right when they get to high school that I will only be paying for a real degree. If they’d like to work retail, they can do so without a psych degree.
Psychology is a real degree.
@@LolyMoly95History is also a degree. These are interests, not career paths. Maybe with a doctorate, but that’s, like 5% or less of people who start with a psych undergrad and at least 8 years of schooling. I said it above and I’ll say it again, you don’t need a psych degree to work retail.
Please never have any kids.
@@NottaSpy69
I don't know where you live, but in first world countries you can get a job as a psychologist and earn money.
why dp these ai stories repeat so much.
My opinion... I don't think OP shouldve gone back to his parents. Because now it all just gets summarised as OP throwing a tantrum to get what he wants from mommy.
What I think shouldve happened, is OP couldve atleast gone back to his mom and forgive her, as it sounds like she was truly remorseful, but he should not have taken her money. I think OP shouldve stuck to getting financial aid outside the family... so that the brother still gets all the funding from the parents. Then when the business inevitably fails, the brother cant throw the blame on OP.
Because now... the brother can blame OP for the business failing because he "couldnt get all the funds he wouldve gotten in the first place, because OP threw a tantrum and made mom withdraw from the business".
So, OP should not go back home, but he can be on speaking terms with his mother and forgive her. Do not take their money. Instead work a job and or graciously accept the aid from his friends. Show that he can stick to his guns and didnt do any of this particularly just to "get his way"
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The OP is a grown ass man. The majority of the commenters' here need to reevaluate there prospective.
He was a 17 year old boy heading to college 😳 his brother was a whole grown ass man and felt threatened by a boy.