The sword is “kinda” Charlemagne’s sword, though the hilt and blade have both been replaced throughout history, so none of it is part of the original sword
Charlemagne likely never held this sword, but it's still a sword with parts that are a millenium old and had gone through the hands of countless rulers in that time, so it's by no means "a fake".
Then they nerver would or should have called it Charlemagne's sword or the sword of Charlemange. Wow! I dont trust the word of any facts the government puts out. You though just blew me out of the water with your bull. In short you just talked circles around yourself. Charlemange was a ruler, not long lived. None the less a ruler. The sword was not a fake originally but after 600 plus years the style changed & was never allowed to rust. Like most swords forged in a time before they have history. Thst dolts will try to argue with the past & the dead. People are still trying to scientifically prove the earth is flat still. So I feel you on "should we trust the goverments." Better then john q public insulting us with "lets disprove what we already know to be fact". Wait idea already taken. Mythbuster
@@juicyjews4iife636 -About that bet ... What kind of wager are we talking about? -I'm glad to hear it. ... A nice little wager, well. Break a leg ... Literally, I hope.
Like earlier comments said, its most likely been modified via maintenance over time. Same “ship of Theseus” situation, where if everything has been replaced, is it still the same item? There are some parts of the weapon that do date to around or close to Charlemagne, but even if its been wholly replaced it would still be his sword in my opinion. Nothing lasts forever, every item is, ultimately, just an idea we’ve made up and which we as individuals value.
That's pretty trippy to see it on a really old painting like that and in real life. Kinda like a time traveler movie where they show up in old historic paintings and photos lol
Every time I see artifacts like this, I get really stressed and always have to ask things like “Do we know for sure? How certain are we? Is it possible we will find the rest? Etc…” 😂
Duranthal is supposedly stuck halfway up a cliff in France, where Roland threw it, and there is a rusty bit of metal that doesn’t look like it’s not a sword at that location. It’s just kinda hard to tall with all the rust, and looking at it from the bottom of the cliff.
The Sabre of Charlemagne is probably more realistically close in age go Charlemagne’s era. They claim it was made in first half of the 10th century. Yet the exact swords were in use for 300-400 years prior to the 10th century. Carried by Magyars, Bulgars, and Pannonian Avars.
That's pretty cool! I was wondering if you have any insight into how Kevlar and plexiglass would fare in traditional medieval combat. Think riot gear with a sword Vs traditional armour
The same weapons and methods used against medieval flexible armors like padded jacks or chain mail (focusing on piercing with reinforced points) do work against soft kevlar vests-with kevlar’s effectiveness against slower moving weapons like swords, spears and the like generally being better than padded cloth or hardened leather, but worse than riveted chain mail for that purpose, so comparable. Hard kevlar-ceramic armors or plexiglass shields would be similarly effective against slow-moving melee weapons as steel plates protecting the same areas-basically perfect-so a medieval opponent wouldn’t be able to get through it, but wouldn’t be SURPRISED to not be able to get through it. So they’d employ the same tactic to counter it as plate harness-either circumvent it entirely with a blunt force weapon like a mace or warhammer or maneuver the blade into the gaps between the hard armor plates so they can attack the soft armor ore exposed flesh instead. And since modern hard armor is designed with guns in mind, not melee weapons, and are a lot heavier to cover the same amount of surface area, the plates have a lot more gaps than those on a late medieval or renaissance knight’s kit. Overall I’d judge a medieval soldier with medieval kit would be surprisingly effective against a modern soldier or policeman with modern riot or combat armor but only melee weapons-armor technology has advanced in the intervening time, but those advances have been focused and applied towards improving defense against firearms, often at the tradeoff and expense of protection from melee threats. And a medieval soldier would be much MORE familiar with modern nonlethal riot tactics-which are basically just ancient shield walls-than modern soldiers are with fighting trained melee combatants IN melee. Generally just some knife fighting, grappling, and maybe bayonet training, all of which are analogous to things the medieval soldier would know how to defend against. Again, with our technological advancements, knowledge OF medieval history, and huge population of people who can communicate, modern engineers and strategists could DESIGN better armors, weapons, and tactics to use against trained melee combatants, but there just isn’t an incentive to do so, so Full Plate harness and medieval anti-armor polearms like the couched lance and crow’s beak have really never been topped for purely melee combat.
Allegedly, the town Joyeuse in France was named after this sword. As the legend goes, Charlemagne lost his sword after a battle that was fought there and he had all his knights and servants search for it, promising to make a lord of whomever found the sword and delivered it to him. The knight who brought Charlemagne his sword, while his name is unknown, was allegedly given the land and named it Joyeuse
You should do William Wallace's sword located at Sterling Castle. But if you do... tell the truth. That great sword that's hanging there William Wallace never even touched because the technology and skill to make a viable Greatsword like that didn't come to Britain for almost 350 years after William Wallace was killed. And when the technology was available it was German blade Smith's that pioneered the technique.
No he did live, he was however less as Charlemange's most trusted Paladin and more like a border guard. There are accounts of Roland defending regions south of France.
@@yammoto148 So then we know there was someone named Roland, but not necessarily THE Roland as described in the legends. Understandable. The name Roland may well have been very common, so it could be an easy trap to fall into.
@@davidnagore725 Well not to the same pedigree the legends describe, but there was a soldier called Roland who Charlie probably created legends around to make his life seem more grandiouse. I am sure it had some real life implication to a degree. There was a Roland but they were probably different in reality to what we envisioned.
Hey Sword guy...could you give me a link for historic swords, their value and legality(my 'friend' may own one that was war booty) Do You know anything about WW2 war booty and ownership? I get all kinds of answers
Wait. You're saying that the Louvre actually has something French in it?!? I thought that it just has a bunch of stolen things in there like the Aphrodite of Milos (Venus de Milo) and other antiquities.
Germany didn't exist. Thé only country that still exists which is from his empire is... FRANCE. Also, latinized frankish is french. Litteraly. Franks are french people's ancestors alongside celtics. France Comes from thé king Clovis, a germanic Frank. Think before saying dumb shit.
It's still one of the best preserved early medieval swords. As well as one that all of the kings of france since 1270 held at least once. So I really wouldn't call is "just" an old sword.
@@Lidavaz_ no, “eu” in French represents the sound /ø/, which is formed sort of by making an “eh” or “ay” sound with your lips tightly pursed, but the closest sound found to it in English is “oo”
That's not actually Joyeuse. It's just a really old sword that monarchs have been using as a set dressing for their fancy little parties where they get coronated for the past few hundred years.
None of it is part of the original sword but does not make it any less part of history. Swords made of 100% metal like this might have chipped blade from to much time on the grindwheel. That chip could have broken the blade & forged anew. If you had the $ you could fix. Just like today, money rules the day. All metal swords also was a display of power & position. Not to mention most noble familes handed down swords. El-cid his sword was forged for his grandfather, never famous till El-cid. Did you all forget that small bit of history? Or did you just think the 5 & dime was being worked on in the 11th trough the 13th century. The comments show alot of people ate their history books
That whole thing about the spear that pierced Jesus is absurd. It's a Roman spear, it was one of a stack that someone would grab when their shift started, and put back after. There would have been no reason to keep it. It would be akin to someone claiming one of those pens on a chain you find in banks was a pen that signed the Declaration of independence; way too new and ambiguous to be of any importance.
Makes me think of the Wallace Sword. Now it is possible some of the steel of the sword is steel from William Wallaces original sword ( well one of his most people of his status would have owned many) but the sword itself could not have actually been his sword becasue the type of sword it is didn't exist at the time of William Wallace. Braveheart would have you believe he carried this great big Claymore. Well not only is a Claymore actually the Basket Hilt sword not the large two handed sword (greatsword) but such swords didn't exist till the Renaissance. He never used a great big greatsword but rather a single handed arming sword with a sheild. He also didn't wear a kilt since the Scottish didn't even have Kilts at that time.
You réalize France Comes from Franks right ??! You réalisé a culture Can change overtime right ? You réalise the only kingdom which still exists from his is France right ? You réalisé Franks were already shifting culture towards thé latin one ?
Likely. In old times, vikings raided and settled along the British coast. We know this because we've found stones with runes on them, one of which was left as a warning about the native Picts. Given the relationship between Britain and France over the centuries, it's entirely likely that a great deal of viking culture bled over into British and then, through it, French culture.
@@Kingdomkey123678 Otherway around the Roman Spatha comes from Celtic designs. The Romans used Gladius’ until they were introduced to Celtic designs and created the Spatha.
@@MultiSpeedMetal I say the Roman Spatha because Rome had been using the Spatha for hundreds of years by the time the Western Roman Empire fell and the Germanic Tribes evolved into the Carolingian Empires, modifying it for their own use as time went on. Rome adopted the Spatha during the Punic wars when they were still a republic, by the time of Charlemagne the design was only associated with Rome and not the Celtic peoples Rome conquered.
The sword is “kinda” Charlemagne’s sword, though the hilt and blade have both been replaced throughout history, so none of it is part of the original sword
The Sword of Theseus
Man, that just made it lose 80% cool factor
That's a 13th century style blade.
Charlemagne's sword would have been wider for most of its length with more of a leaf 🍂🌿 style point.
Crazy to believe Charlemagne’s descendant was Christopher Lee. Mothafuckin COUNT DOOKU! Who used a curved hilt like CMON. THATS SICK
@@bigmike9947 i came to make a joke of this nature
Charlemagne likely never held this sword, but it's still a sword with parts that are a millenium old and had gone through the hands of countless rulers in that time, so it's by no means "a fake".
Then they nerver would or should have called it Charlemagne's sword or the sword of Charlemange. Wow! I dont trust the word of any facts the government puts out. You though just blew me out of the water with your bull. In short you just talked circles around yourself. Charlemange was a ruler, not long lived. None the less a ruler. The sword was not a fake originally but after 600 plus years the style changed & was never allowed to rust. Like most swords forged in a time before they have history. Thst dolts will try to argue with the past & the dead. People are still trying to scientifically prove the earth is flat still. So I feel you on "should we trust the goverments." Better then john q public insulting us with "lets disprove what we already know to be fact". Wait idea already taken. Mythbuster
"by no means fake"? Did you even listen...?
@@noahholliday9761 It is the sword of french kings, a millenium old. Calling it a fake just does not fit.
@@MizantropMan not to mention you yourself said "Charlemagne likely never held this sword" lol.
How about the sword that a lady at the lake threw to king Arthur? Are aliens amogus?
Love the KCD music.
Hey lad! wanna put a little wager on the rattay tourney?
@@juicyjews4iife636
-About that bet ... What kind of wager are we talking about?
-I'm glad to hear it. ...
A nice little wager, well. Break a leg ... Literally, I hope.
Jesus Christ be praised
Hey, Henrys come to see us!
@@Samppa_linna Good day, Henry
My ancestor was son of Charlemagne. Pepin the Lucky , my maternal grandmother last name being La Chance.
Lol most of Europe is related to Charlemagne
Man’s using kingdom come music! Jesus Christ be praised.
Hey, Henry's come to see us!
I’m feeling quite hungry.
@@michaelwilson5866 Can we do something about the price?
@@OrangeDragon04 naturally
@@nowheat7987 Since it's you...
Find me Aurelian’s sword. The man was called “Manu ad Ferrum”, surely that sword should be the stuff of legend
Hand of iron?
@@b.johnathanwarriorinagarde7980 No, meaning "with hand on sword".
@@nicknaylor9895 Thanks
This sword was in legends unlike most people from then to now. Think on that duh
The background music makes me feel quite hungry
If you're not playing on Hardcore, just find a food pot or two.
This definitely looks more like a later period sword from 13-15th century
Like earlier comments said, its most likely been modified via maintenance over time. Same “ship of Theseus” situation, where if everything has been replaced, is it still the same item? There are some parts of the weapon that do date to around or close to Charlemagne, but even if its been wholly replaced it would still be his sword in my opinion. Nothing lasts forever, every item is, ultimately, just an idea we’ve made up and which we as individuals value.
That's pretty trippy to see it on a really old painting like that and in real life. Kinda like a time traveler movie where they show up in old historic paintings and photos lol
jesus christ be praised
I love the KCD music!
Every time I see artifacts like this, I get really stressed and always have to ask things like “Do we know for sure? How certain are we? Is it possible we will find the rest? Etc…” 😂
It’s so petite and cute.
If I could hold it, and point it skyward I'd get powers.
Duranthal is supposedly stuck halfway up a cliff in France, where Roland threw it, and there is a rusty bit of metal that doesn’t look like it’s not a sword at that location. It’s just kinda hard to tall with all the rust, and looking at it from the bottom of the cliff.
Many nobles in Languedoc and Catalonia reclamed to be in possesion of Durandal
Short and to the point.
Perfect name for jokes about making your enemies feel "Joyous" in combat.
This is so nice!
i like his breakfast club, funny show
My great many times grandfathers sword
The Sabre of Charlemagne is probably more realistically close in age go Charlemagne’s era. They claim it was made in first half of the 10th century. Yet the exact swords were in use for 300-400 years prior to the 10th century. Carried by Magyars, Bulgars, and Pannonian Avars.
Whenever I think of Charlemagne all my mind pictures is Astolfo, thanks modern history
@@truthsedge6514 modern problems require medieval femboys
Cheating on your wife with 1000 woman is very epic
That's pretty cool!
I was wondering if you have any insight into how Kevlar and plexiglass would fare in traditional medieval combat. Think riot gear with a sword Vs traditional armour
The same weapons and methods used against medieval flexible armors like padded jacks or chain mail (focusing on piercing with reinforced points) do work against soft kevlar vests-with kevlar’s effectiveness against slower moving weapons like swords, spears and the like generally being better than padded cloth or hardened leather, but worse than riveted chain mail for that purpose, so comparable.
Hard kevlar-ceramic armors or plexiglass shields would be similarly effective against slow-moving melee weapons as steel plates protecting the same areas-basically perfect-so a medieval opponent wouldn’t be able to get through it, but wouldn’t be SURPRISED to not be able to get through it. So they’d employ the same tactic to counter it as plate harness-either circumvent it entirely with a blunt force weapon like a mace or warhammer or maneuver the blade into the gaps between the hard armor plates so they can attack the soft armor ore exposed flesh instead. And since modern hard armor is designed with guns in mind, not melee weapons, and are a lot heavier to cover the same amount of surface area, the plates have a lot more gaps than those on a late medieval or renaissance knight’s kit.
Overall I’d judge a medieval soldier with medieval kit would be surprisingly effective against a modern soldier or policeman with modern riot or combat armor but only melee weapons-armor technology has advanced in the intervening time, but those advances have been focused and applied towards improving defense against firearms, often at the tradeoff and expense of protection from melee threats. And a medieval soldier would be much MORE familiar with modern nonlethal riot tactics-which are basically just ancient shield walls-than modern soldiers are with fighting trained melee combatants IN melee. Generally just some knife fighting, grappling, and maybe bayonet training, all of which are analogous to things the medieval soldier would know how to defend against. Again, with our technological advancements, knowledge OF medieval history, and huge population of people who can communicate, modern engineers and strategists could DESIGN better armors, weapons, and tactics to use against trained melee combatants, but there just isn’t an incentive to do so, so Full Plate harness and medieval anti-armor polearms like the couched lance and crow’s beak have really never been topped for purely melee combat.
The sword of Roland is jabbed into the side of a cliff at a holy site. I saw it with my own eyes.
I saw it too, a fake stone thingy in Dordogne
I’m glad I’m related to this guy by blood
Ain’t no way Charlemagne from the UK now tf
“My source is that I made it the fuck up”
Looks like just a fancy sword nobles would have
KCD, Jesus Christ be praised
Robert the Bruce’s two hander…not really a Claymore but close enough
“Interested in finding it” could’ve been worded better lol
we had no saber thus far, be carefull alright? someday it might be lost.
Talk about Anduril, flame of the west, forged from the shards of Narsil.
Please please make a video about what an realistic version of what Holger Danske (Ogier the Dane) sword would have looked like
"There can be only one."
That spear rhat pierced jesus is everywhere in peices
Allegedly, the town Joyeuse in France was named after this sword. As the legend goes, Charlemagne lost his sword after a battle that was fought there and he had all his knights and servants search for it, promising to make a lord of whomever found the sword and delivered it to him. The knight who brought Charlemagne his sword, while his name is unknown, was allegedly given the land and named it Joyeuse
I'd much rather go for the St.George's sword. If you know, what I mean.
You mean Ascalon?
I see your King George's sword and raise my Bailiff's mace + Prybislavitz boar shield
@@bombingbarrett4813 What do we have here? Entertainment? Great!
You should do William Wallace's sword located at Sterling Castle. But if you do... tell the truth. That great sword that's hanging there William Wallace never even touched because the technology and skill to make a viable Greatsword like that didn't come to Britain for almost 350 years after William Wallace was killed. And when the technology was available it was German blade Smith's that pioneered the technique.
me eating cheese balls: uuuhhh, that's gold right?
There are some serious doubts about if Roland lived at all.
No he did live, he was however less as Charlemange's most trusted Paladin and more like a border guard. There are accounts of Roland defending regions south of France.
@@yammoto148 So then we know there was someone named Roland, but not necessarily THE Roland as described in the legends. Understandable. The name Roland may well have been very common, so it could be an easy trap to fall into.
@@davidnagore725 Well not to the same pedigree the legends describe, but there was a soldier called Roland who Charlie probably created legends around to make his life seem more grandiouse.
I am sure it had some real life implication to a degree. There was a Roland but they were probably different in reality to what we envisioned.
The sword of Mars!
What would the French then say how France is now???
Ah yes, the sword which the Templars and the Assassin is fighting for
Ayo ain’t that the sword that Ronnie holds in the video of Holy Diver?
Mans said "Joy-use" 🤦♂️
Wrong ?
The Goliaths sword used to cut his head off after David took him out with the stone.
Talk about the grass cutting sword.
Noone saved the spear that pierced jesus
So this sword has an 11th century blade, a 10th century blade and was made for an 8th century king? Something doesn't add up... XD
It’s called the Theseus paradox it’s still the same sword
It was repaired through the years
The sword of victory from Thailand would be interesting
Laughs in minion
How long is it? How much does it weigh?
Hey Sword guy...could you give me a link for historic swords, their value and legality(my 'friend' may own one that was war booty) Do You know anything about WW2 war booty and ownership? I get all kinds of answers
Attack + 99, Chance for Critical + 99
It is also the sword used by Conan the Barbarian! 😂
Conan would never choose to use a fancy gay blade like that...
And you got the sword camping for hours in Final Fantasy XI, from the Kraken NM
Oh, I'm sure that it was his sword. He kept it with the genuine Crown of Thorns and the 3 different skulls of St.Peter that he owned...
You should make a video about Kusanagi-no-Tsurugi, the legendary Japanese sword and one of three Imperial Regalia of Japan.
30 shades of red
Some one should talk about the sword of Mars one conquering Hun had in his possession
Wait. You're saying that the Louvre actually has something French in it?!? I thought that it just has a bunch of stolen things in there like the Aphrodite of Milos (Venus de Milo) and other antiquities.
No. It's not. It's not thé british museum
Just think that blade has a body count in the quadruple digits.
Why is everything named in french? Charlemagne was not french but Frank and Franks were Germanic that spoke a Germanic languages called Frankish
Germany didn't exist.
Thé only country that still exists which is from his empire is... FRANCE.
Also, latinized frankish is french. Litteraly.
Franks are french people's ancestors alongside celtics.
France Comes from thé king Clovis, a germanic Frank.
Think before saying dumb shit.
So both stories that make the sword special revolve around it being angelic in some nature? So it's just an old sword then.
It's still one of the best preserved early medieval swords. As well as one that all of the kings of france since 1270 held at least once. So I really wouldn't call is "just" an old sword.
“Joyeuse” should be pronounced like “zhwa-yooz”
Zhwa-yuz (u like in undo)
@@Lidavaz_ no, “eu” in French represents the sound /ø/, which is formed sort of by making an “eh” or “ay” sound with your lips tightly pursed, but the closest sound found to it in English is “oo”
Yeah but didn’t Charlemagne speak German (or rather, a *Germanic* language) anyway?
@@notdoneyet1361 i am litteraly french
@@Lidavaz_ well then you must need to brush up on your English because you must be mistaken on how the u in undo sounds
Can you do one on the Hanjo Masamune sword?
That's not actually Joyeuse. It's just a really old sword that monarchs have been using as a set dressing for their fancy little parties where they get coronated for the past few hundred years.
I was going to say the guard didn't look period accurate
Charlemagne is said to be a descendent of Jesus and Mary Magdalene.
The spear that pierced Jesus is the spear of destiny if im not mistaken.
The Holy Lance is believed to have worked one of the cross nails in.
I thought Charlemagnes sword was known to have a dustinct curved hilt
😉
Funny because so does my “sword” ;)
Looks like shower hot water heater piping
Well… I have bridge to sell… :)
Fancy knife
What are it's stats?
✝️✝️✝️⚔️⚔️⚔️🛡🛡🛡
None of it is part of the original sword but does not make it any less part of history. Swords made of 100% metal like this might have chipped blade from to much time on the grindwheel. That chip could have broken the blade & forged anew. If you had the $ you could fix. Just like today, money rules the day. All metal swords also was a display of power & position. Not to mention most noble familes handed down swords. El-cid his sword was forged for his grandfather, never famous till El-cid. Did you all forget that small bit of history? Or did you just think the 5 & dime was being worked on in the 11th trough the 13th century. The comments show alot of people ate their history books
How can it be his sword when you said it dates from over a century after he lived?
Yeah well, my sword is a
+25 with lighting damage of 7
Is charlamagne the god's sword called the joyeuthe?
lol
this that this too and this with this is forged out of the lance and still looks like a lance HOW FOCKING BIG, THINK POEPLE WERE THIS THING?
Yea you need to talk about king Arthur’s sword jus saying
What's funny is that in essence... its still just a sword 😶
Nice looking though
Evangalion reference ?
Obviously it's just a burial sword.
People say a lot of things
And the places he used to put the handle. Let’s just say NSFW at the least.
That whole thing about the spear that pierced Jesus is absurd. It's a Roman spear, it was one of a stack that someone would grab when their shift started, and put back after. There would have been no reason to keep it. It would be akin to someone claiming one of those pens on a chain you find in banks was a pen that signed the Declaration of independence; way too new and ambiguous to be of any importance.
Makes me think of the Wallace Sword. Now it is possible some of the steel of the sword is steel from William Wallaces original sword ( well one of his most people of his status would have owned many) but the sword itself could not have actually been his sword becasue the type of sword it is didn't exist at the time of William Wallace. Braveheart would have you believe he carried this great big Claymore. Well not only is a Claymore actually the Basket Hilt sword not the large two handed sword (greatsword) but such swords didn't exist till the Renaissance. He never used a great big greatsword but rather a single handed arming sword with a sheild. He also didn't wear a kilt since the Scottish didn't even have Kilts at that time.
Joyeuse? In French maybe. You realize Charlemagne was Frankish right? Frankish is a Germanic language, Rhine Germanic / Istvaeonic to be exact.
france was made by the franks
You réalize France Comes from Franks right ??! You réalisé a culture Can change overtime right ?
You réalise the only kingdom which still exists from his is France right ? You réalisé Franks were already shifting culture towards thé latin one ?
just one of the swords of charlemagne and the guard the pommel and the scabbard they are not of the them era !charlemagne have three swords
I think it's just marketing.
No, i have the real one.
It's pronounced long guy nus!
Find me masamune or muramasa
It's a duplicate.
That belongs to Sir Christopher Lee May he rest eternal.
I have a question, the pommel of the blade has the same shape as a viking sword, is there a connection there?
Likely. In old times, vikings raided and settled along the British coast. We know this because we've found stones with runes on them, one of which was left as a warning about the native Picts. Given the relationship between Britain and France over the centuries, it's entirely likely that a great deal of viking culture bled over into British and then, through it, French culture.
Most swords of the era of Charlemagne were descended from the Roman Spatha so that’s likely the connection
@@Kingdomkey123678 Otherway around the Roman Spatha comes from Celtic designs. The Romans used Gladius’ until they were introduced to Celtic designs and created the Spatha.
@@MultiSpeedMetal
I say the Roman Spatha because Rome had been using the Spatha for hundreds of years by the time the Western Roman Empire fell and the Germanic Tribes evolved into the Carolingian Empires, modifying it for their own use as time went on.
Rome adopted the Spatha during the Punic wars when they were still a republic, by the time of Charlemagne the design was only associated with Rome and not the Celtic peoples Rome conquered.
Who cares ill probably get more than 5 gold for it at the town merchant.