This Midway gunsmith series is superbly done. The lighting, camera work, narration and writing are all crisp and true. The music is not intrusive. While I have no interest in gunsmithing, I'll watch any video that does such a good job of explaining things.
MrAzrancher mr potterfield you are an artist when it comes to old rifles. Best you tube channel for the morning coffee and to see how things used to be .
Mike Jensen-Fogt when you are ceo of a big firearm related company you can afford the time to play with your favorite antique man toys! I wish I had that kind of time and $
If the rim of a 12ga casing was at least catching on the extractor and not falling through, it would've been theoretically possible to fireform 12ga casings up to 11ga diameter. I'm not recommending anyone do this, but brass does expand and hug the walls of the chamber like a mold. Fireforming is a process that most benchrest shooters are aware of and I wonder if it would've worked here. Seeing him lathing out brand new casings on a lathe was impressive enough.
Cpl. Gadway USMC just use modern 12 ga plastic cases, yes they will just expand slightly more when fired but just fire one time and throw away, 12 ga cases are everywhere. Those black powder loads are low pressure
Shotguns have much lower chamber pressure than rifles, so it's doubtful that the shells could be fire-formed up to 11 gauge without risking serious damage to the gun or the shooter (especially with black powder.)
I've got a Henry Tolley 11-bore. It has been sleeved to 16-bore. It's very muzzle-heavy as such, but swings well on birds regardless. I've used it quite a bit out of curiosity in its handling. The modification was done in England, so I'm not sure if they did it because of the rare gauge, or because of a defect in the original damascus barrels. Wish I knew, because if it was just due to the gauge, I'd be tempted to un-sleeve it and have some 11-bore brass made up.
Textbook job again, Mr Potterfield, but I would try to wrap 12ga shells with some sticky aluminum tape. Much cheaper and faster while still preventing the shells from expanding. I think some light load birdshot would have to be used not to stress the black powder barrel too much, but it should hold just fine.
My dad and uncle had an 11 ga muzzleloader side by side. They had a bunch of fun with it shooting clay pigeons! The went through 1.5 pounds of powder one weekend!
Just bought a WC scott and sons 11 gauge. For anyone wondering... 12 gauge works in it. You just need to angle the shotgun so they dont jump the ejectors on the way in.
FUN GUN!.... I tried to get a beautiful 280 Ross to shoot again but no ammo. anywhere. The darn thing was mint.Inspite of corrosive primrs back in the day,some one had vry carefully cleaned and oiled the barrel before packing it away in its case. I regret selling it.
David Salazar very possible, but not for 12 gauge. The walls of the adapter would NOT be thick enough for an old black powder gun, and shooting modern loads from a gun this old made with wire wrapped barrels can explode it. It would likely be plenty safe to make a 20 gauge, 410, or pistol caliber adapter for the gun. They actually make adapters for 12 gauge and 20 and 410 to shoot all kinds of ammunition
As long as I was into it, I would have gone on & made six shells, enough for two reloads; I think you need to have the gun function at least twice to make sure everything is running at an acceptable level.
I have one of the old Parker lifter guns. I think mine is a 10 gauge. Have to check it now and make sure it's not 11 gauge. Seeing this makes me want to dig it Out of the back of the safe and shoot it.
Parker imported all of their welded barrels. They once planned to make them here and even brought over some European barrel makers to teach the techniques. Ultimately the project was cancelled because of the $$ involved: The company objected to having to pay U.S. workers $0.35/hr. at a time that the Belgians were getting $0.11/hr. !
i suspect the bore is about the size of modern back bored 12 ga. Way to much work for me though, wonder if 12 ga shells would work or if they split open?
Why must the front and rear (or left and right trigger) be that particular way round...Why can't they be switched so the right trigger is also the rear trigger? So as to be able to slide the trigger finger from front to back (or left to right) in one smooth transitional "stroking" motion, the same way you can if you shoot left handed.
Anyone who likes old guns knows the work that goes into shooting and maintaining them. Thats part of the fun. But man this seems like a lot of excessive work. Maybe as a 'see if I can' kind of project. But I think I would have tried enlarging 12g brass or just wrap it in tape. Its not like youre going to shoot it a lot. Although if I had all the tools I probably would have made my own shells too LOL.
This Midway gunsmith series is superbly done. The lighting, camera work, narration and writing are all crisp and true. The music is not intrusive. While I have no interest in gunsmithing, I'll watch any video that does such a good job of explaining things.
I could listen to Larry read a Phone Book. His voice is so soothing. And he can do anything.
Mr. Potterfield you are an artist bordering on magician. I love your videos!!!
I second that.
Motion carried
MrAzrancher mr potterfield you are an artist when it comes to old rifles. Best you tube channel for the morning coffee and to see how things used to be .
I just learned a ton from this vid. Good one Larry. Never knew there was an 11ga shotgun!!!
the most expensive shotgun shells I have ever seen
Stephen B those can be reloaded endlessly so not really
Try reloading a 5 gauge shotgun shell... my 5 gauge shotgun is a bitch to reload for and even worse to shoot.
Daniel R there was a two boar/gauge rifle, ouch
@@bartvanriel6767 they sure cant be. Research before being so cocky.
@@davisjames8484 with endlessly I meant a lot not infinitely
Mr. Rogers of reloading. Such a nice man.
all that work for 4 shots.... he must have really want to shoot that shotgun... lol I love these videos, I wish he would still make them.... :(
Mike Jensen-Fogt he died
+DigDaddyD Matin Larry is still alive and still the CEO of Midway.
Mike Jensen-Fogt when you are ceo of a big firearm related company you can afford the time to play with your favorite antique man toys! I wish I had that kind of time and $
Once the cases are made, they are reloadable for many uses.
The 4 are samples to make sure they function, then he cant send them to starline to make some
The more I watch these videos, the more I want to see inside of Larry's machine shop. That place is like a dream. Dont have a tool or part?, make it!
Larry knows his stuff, love watching his videos.
His skill level is unreal
Love watching Larry's videos on gun smithing great craftsmen ship
How carefully he does it - pleasure to watch the professional at work.
Wow Larry, I always learn something new when I watch your videos ...... So lets go shooting !!!!!
I love these old shotgun videos... thanks Larry!
Mr Potterfield really makes things of beauty !
I thoroughly enjoy all of these videos, keep em coming Larry, thanks!
You are one of most skilled gunsmith I ever seen, good luck
I always watched this guy on the outdoor channel but I never knew he was this good
Fantasy work Larry! You just inspired me to make some 38-40 shot shells.
Quality of work I never knew existed. Awesome
Awesome stuff right there, I reload about everything there is and absolutely loved this.
If the rim of a 12ga casing was at least catching on the extractor and not falling through, it would've been theoretically possible to fireform 12ga casings up to 11ga diameter. I'm not recommending anyone do this, but brass does expand and hug the walls of the chamber like a mold. Fireforming is a process that most benchrest shooters are aware of and I wonder if it would've worked here. Seeing him lathing out brand new casings on a lathe was impressive enough.
Cpl. Gadway USMC it can be dangerous as casings can either rupture and youl get blow back, or get stuck.
Cpl. Gadway USMC just use modern 12 ga plastic cases, yes they will just expand slightly more when fired but just fire one time and throw away, 12 ga cases are everywhere. Those black powder loads are low pressure
Shotguns have much lower chamber pressure than rifles, so it's doubtful that the shells could be fire-formed up to 11 gauge without risking serious damage to the gun or the shooter (especially with black powder.)
This guy is a genius when it comes to guns!
I admire your knowledge and skill. Thanks for another great video.
Larry is a badass , he can even make shotgun shels shells on a lathe
Fantastic craftsmanship Larry you have an outstanding wealth of knowledge.
5*
Like listening and watching Larry work!!
I watch this just for the smoke! Happily I do the same thing with my Greener though I just have to trim commercial hulls.
Great video. I need to get a mini-lathe. Start making some of those 11 gauge shells for my collection of old ammo.
yo, that gun is older than my grandparents.
I could watch larry all day.
If only I had enough room in my garage for all the tools and machines!!! :)
If only I had about $100K to fill that room with all those tools and machines. :(
Great Information provided....Just what I needed...Thank You
Thanks for making great videos, please don't stop.
Nicely done, Larry!
Sure helps to have access to those tools!! Great job!!
I've got a Henry Tolley 11-bore. It has been sleeved to 16-bore. It's very muzzle-heavy as such, but swings well on birds regardless. I've used it quite a bit out of curiosity in its handling. The modification was done in England, so I'm not sure if they did it because of the rare gauge, or because of a defect in the original damascus barrels. Wish I knew, because if it was just due to the gauge, I'd be tempted to un-sleeve it and have some 11-bore brass made up.
Textbook job again, Mr Potterfield, but I would try to wrap 12ga shells with some sticky aluminum tape. Much cheaper and faster while still preventing the shells from expanding. I think some light load birdshot would have to be used not to stress the black powder barrel too much, but it should hold just fine.
Oh my god reloading the Shells is like the Video of Reloading 10 Gauge
Liberty Prime but.. its 11 😏
Larry living the dream.
My dad and uncle had an 11 ga muzzleloader side by side. They had a bunch of fun with it shooting clay pigeons! The went through 1.5 pounds of powder one weekend!
Really enjoy seeing how it's done
Larry Potterfield is the man!
WoW
This man is an Artist
I would love to see an update to this for Paper shotshells. :D
Beautiful work ... great to watch
I sure wish I had a shop like that!
Do you know sir how much you have invested in your fine shop.
Your knowledge is priceless.
nothing but class Larry
Just bought a WC scott and sons 11 gauge. For anyone wondering... 12 gauge works in it. You just need to angle the shotgun so they dont jump the ejectors on the way in.
you can also make a sleeve to let the 12ga shells fit more snug.
Larry, I love your videos, thanks !!!!
Great video
Good video 👍. I am amazed at the talent of a good gunsmith
I would liked to have Larry Potterfield as my grandfather, since mine died before I was born :((((
great, relaxing, informative channel
I had no idea there ever was an 11 gauge
ਬਹੁਤ ਵਧੀਆ ਲੱਗੀ ਲੱਗੀ ਇਹ 11 ਗੇਜ਼ ਦੀ ਪੁਰਾਣੀ ਗੰਨ ਅਤੇ ਪਿੱਤਲ ਦਾ ਤਿਆਰ ਕੀਤਾ ਰੌਂਦ ਸਰ
Love the videos, please make more!
Max level freedom achieved
The fact you've gotta start with solid brass rod stock to be able to shoot this thing is crazy
great channel. do more reloading
Great Presentation.....Thanks Much!
Wery good work, komrade! Nice shots, beauty gun! Hello from Mother Russia, we like your videos.
Larry kicks ass...
7:50 "Watch as I make this clay pigeon... Disappear!" - Larry Potterfield probably
FUN GUN!.... I tried to get a beautiful 280 Ross to shoot again but no ammo. anywhere. The darn thing was mint.Inspite of corrosive primrs back in the day,some one had vry carefully cleaned and oiled the barrel before packing it away in its case. I regret selling it.
Love your videos sure learned a lot thanks 🙏🏻
would it not be possible to make a very thin adapter to slide in the chamber to shoot a 12 gauge shell?
David Salazar very possible, but not for 12 gauge. The walls of the adapter would NOT be thick enough for an old black powder gun, and shooting modern loads from a gun this old made with wire wrapped barrels can explode it. It would likely be plenty safe to make a 20 gauge, 410, or pistol caliber adapter for the gun. They actually make adapters for 12 gauge and 20 and 410 to shoot all kinds of ammunition
Do more shotgun like this one please
As long as I was into it, I would have gone on & made six shells, enough for two reloads; I think you need to have the gun function at least twice to make sure everything is running at an acceptable level.
Thanks for some very useful info. :))
Cool. Not sure how you could practice with clays tho. That thing puts out so much smoke! Btw, loading it the old fashioned way is cool too.
love the smell of an old double barrel discharge on a cold autumn morning
brings back memories
Please , anyone knows , what is this shoot recipient at 06:07 minutes of the video ?
very cool! it makes me want a lathe so bad!
Who makes/made that wad guide? I have a similar experiment in .410 I'm considering.
Hey friend, not to nitpick on your lathework but I saw that reamer dancing around quite a bit during cutting.
Amazing.
On my next video, I'll show you how to re-chamber an old Remington .22 rimfire to .50 BMG.
I think a set of bore mics (tri micrometer) would do you good Larry.
How long did it take you to make the shells my guy just wow
I have one of the old Parker lifter guns. I think mine is a 10 gauge.
Have to check it now and make sure it's not 11 gauge.
Seeing this makes me want to dig it
Out of the back of the safe and shoot it.
Mr. Larry:
Will you pls. show me how to adjust korektly the front sight of a S&W 686 Practical Champion???
Super video 💪
Amazing to say the least
On an old gun couldn't you make solid brass 11g blocks and drill them to say 410, and use black powder loads just for fun plinking
Didn't know you could buy coil spring stock. If anything, that was worth watching this video.
you smart good job keep up the good work.
How long the shells the chambers support?
always a professional...
Parker imported all of their welded barrels. They once planned to make them here and even brought over some European barrel makers to teach the techniques. Ultimately the project was cancelled because of the $$ involved: The company objected to having to pay U.S. workers $0.35/hr. at a time that the Belgians were getting $0.11/hr. !
What size drill bit do you use for a large rifle primer
I have seen an 11 gauge W C Scott & Son makers from London.. have pictures 1870
i suspect the bore is about the size of modern back bored 12 ga. Way to much work for me though, wonder if 12 ga shells would work or if they split open?
Ryan Ehlis just put some tape around it job done sir
***** hahaha
LMAO, he is describing every process as if we all have one of these to take apart. LOL
Where did you find this beautiful weapon?
Cool shop.
Why must the front and rear (or left and right trigger) be that particular way round...Why can't they be switched so the right trigger is also the rear trigger? So as to be able to slide the trigger finger from front to back (or left to right) in one smooth transitional "stroking" motion, the same way you can if you shoot left handed.
Anyone who likes old guns knows the work that goes into shooting and maintaining them. Thats part of the fun.
But man this seems like a lot of excessive work. Maybe as a 'see if I can' kind of project. But I think I would have tried enlarging 12g brass or just wrap it in tape. Its not like youre going to shoot it a lot. Although if I had all the tools I probably would have made my own shells too LOL.
I think that re-chambering for 10 gauge would be a viable option but would also pretty much ruin the collectable value.
nah just turn a couple adapters to shoot 12 guage shells and reload in black powder plus you can buy starline brass in 12 guage
How much for a box of those shells?