The DEEPER MEANING Behind Sora's Last Words to Xehanort | Kingdom Hearts 3 Commentary
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The final standoff between Sora and Xehanort has always stuck with me. I dont have any crazy theories here, but I cant help but believe a lot about this scene gets misconstrued/misunderstood.
In this video I decide to peel back the meaning behind Sora's words in this scene.
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I really do love this final scene between Xehanort and Sora. Every once in awhile I find it to be misunderstood, so I figured I would offer my take/perception of this particular exchange. Hope you all enjoy, and as always please feel free to share your thoughts!
I love when sora says that “A Master know destiny is beyond his control and accept it” I want it on a shirt
His wisdom far beyond his years that he has within him deeply and shows and shines and Rises to it successfully Sora got the most devious man within this version of The Saga who kept intending on his Conquest to dictate people's destinies but he truly learned from a wise young man like Sora that you can change Fates and whatnot but you cannot dictate the choice of others Destiny's that are not within his control xanort learn that from a wielder of the most powerful blade in that universe that reminded him of the wisdom of an old friend but it took sora,s wisdom in words to reach him and that proves what answer the wise told Riku and others about this young champions heart into all fans and within the Saga can't wait to see what this true leader of a Young Man will do next
Xehanort is not aiming to become a god just to create his ideal world by rebooting everything.
@@Raximus3000 Resetting all of existence, and "Dictating The Destiny" of individuals after that reset means Xehanort would have complete control of Fate and the Destiny of others. You don't have to call it a God, but it certainly isnt just being a normal person.
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I do not think that is what he was going to do after he finished the first reset i am guessing he'd keep doing it otherwise the equilibrium he sought would be destroyed.
Great Video!
6:10 "Sora had no control over his circumstances and him ending up in quadratum". What is even crazier, is that Sora was literally holding the X-Blade, he had control in his actual hands but he chose to accept his fate. That speaks volumes to the type of person he is.
Wow, I didn't even put that together. Sora really could have taken control, but instead he used it to close up Kingdom Hearts.
@@TheLandiLodge Xehanort handing Sora the X-Blade is also the first time a master had officially passed down a keyblade to Sora. Not only was it symbolic of Xehanort accepting his defeat physically and ideologically, but also him acknowledging Sora as a worthy successor.
The entire final chapter of Kh3 had so much subliminal messaging. It'll be very interesting to see how the story proceeds with the Foretellers and how Sora will cope with facing the consequences of choosing to fight the darkness head-on.
Look up alternate translations of the japanese dialogue. my headcanon one is:
"That's not something you decide."
"Then who gets to decide? Only those who have power can decide. Those without power, in this world the strong have created, only pollute the world with darkness. The weak should accept the fate the strong have chosen for them."
"If so, neither of us are strong, Xehanort. Someone who's really strong, doesn't grasp the world's fate. You can't hold on to that power forever."
"You're like my friend. Admirable."
This changes the meaning quite a bit. There's a major difference between changing the fate of the world, and fighting to change your own fate, or the fate of your friends. Sora's telling Xehanort that, even if his plan succeeded, he couldn't control the world's fate forever. Darkness would still be born in peoples hearts, and would spread as it did before. Even with the power of Kingdom Hearts, no one is capable of that level of control. Instead of commenting on Sora's job fighting him, "Very well done." He's commenting on Sora's character, comparing him to Eraqus.
Do you have a source for this translation? I would love to do a video on it
@@TheLandiLodge RUclips won't let me post the link, but it's by Pheonix Downer. I changed the wording to make it flow better in english without losing the meaning.
Man that is unbelievably fascinating
The thing most people who run into Darkness want is Freedom from other People's Fates. They want Control of Reality because they feel Out of Control. (Trauma) And the only way to have perfect Control is to turn the World into Puppets. Like Characters in a Book. They are Free because no one else is.
Xehanort was "weak" because Darkness killed his friends, and he couldn't stop it. But if he could control the Concept of Darkness, and the concept of Light, then he will never be out of Control again.
Sora takes the opposite approach. He doesn't want Control. He doesn't want puppets. However, by being so self-sacrificial , Sora becomes a puppet of other people. He becomes The Master of Masters game piece. Kingdom Hearts making Sora's character "dance" for the Master of Masters.
anyone else noticed Xigbar's words paralleled from Dream Drop Distance here from Sora to Xehanort before watching this video?
@@jamescool7419 Xigbar is Luxu, who works for MoM too. It all comes together.
but i think the master is good deep down
@@Ncholasbloom More like an anti villain character.
Something else I took away from this ending, after playing the whole series up until this point, was that there could never be a truly happy ending for everyone.
In the first game, Sora, Riku and Kairi are still separated from each other with no way of knowing if they would ever be together again.
In the second game they all finally reunite, but Roxas and Namine don't get to exist on their own.
And finally in this game everything is as close as it can be to a perfect ending, ironically border-lining on fairy tale-like, but because of what it took to make it happen, Sora had to "die."
I've yet to play anything else beyond Kingdom Hearts 3, but whatever it's going to take for everyone to bring Sora back, it's no doubt going to come at a very heavy price that will completely undo everything Sora worked so hard to achieve.
At this point, yeah probably.
Extreme pride vs extreme humility.
With the ending to Dark Road, it’s not that simple anymore!
@@Atlas92936 except that we know sora is destined to be a keyblade master one day and be the main character of kh forever. He is the f***** child of destiny.
More like extreme desperation versus acceptance of inevitability
I love this. I've always maintained that KH is as deep as any FF story, for anyone willing to look underneath the goofy Disney / anime crossover stuff. There's philosophy and psychology at play with these characters. It makes me sad how many people can only find it in themselves to enjoy the series ironically lately, because there's a bunch of great stuff like this tucked into encounters that fully embrace anime cheese on the surface.
I think it's especially poetic that this conversation is being held on the submerged bones of Daybreak Town. Despite all the effort to change Daybreak Town's fate, it ended up exactly where it always would, and the fact that Xehanort stands there and tries for the same approach of changing fate to suit his desires where many others did in decades past (even if it's not real Scala technically) really goes to show how out of touch he is. He's the character with so many secrets and answers, and yet he didn't even notice something as simple as the Daybreak Town clocktower underneath the sea to signify how such a defiance of fate has lead to disastrous results in the past. With the added context of Dark Road finally being completed, Xehanort is completely understandable in this moment too, which I think is an impressive feat. In the first discussion he has with MoM, MoM tells him that in this world, there are only the strong and the weak, and you're either one or the other. In the original Japanese version of his conversation with Sora, Sora expresses a similar sentiment in telling Xehanort that he's not strong, because the strong know the limitations of their power, and thus his plot to dictate destiny is doomed before it's even begun in full. What I love about the parallels between these two conversations is that young Xehanort heavily implies that he knows he's one of the weak during his conversation with MoM. What we see, or I suppose merely catch glimpses of thanks to Dark Road's time skips, is Xehanort's efforts to change himself from someone who is weak to someone who is truly strong, truly strong in that he doesn't preach false light like the Queen of Hearts or other Disney villains but instead owns what gives him his power, darkness, and accepts it in full. But in his quest to change from weak to strong, he lost sight of what was truly important and endangered everything in the name of preventing future devastation, like a complete reversal of MoM's viewpoint during Union X. He did learn from the events of Dark Road - he didn't endeavor for so long for petty revenge after all, and didn't let himself believe that he'd fallen past the point of redemption and lost all will to do good. He just became so convinced that he's what the world needed to be saved that he lost sight of his own humanity, and his truly limited control over destiny. Sora's words to him at his penultimate defeat were his wake-up call.
Dark Road really was a blessing in disguise.
Finally someone agreeing with me about the important difference between Sora and Xehanort :)
Sora did indeed broke a taboo, but he willingly accepted the price for it, and in the end, he's the only one who got hurt after changing the course of destiny. Xehanort's actions, on the other hand, hurt a lot of people, and the old man did everything he could to be above consequences, to control all destinies and refuse his own coming end of age before the end of KH3.
"There is a difference between controlling destiny, and changing it" ; and what Xehanort wanted was "A fantasy land [..] but in reallity would be a prison of rigid control, lacking free will and changes"
Thank you so much for those wise words, a lot of fans needed to hear that :)
"Sora accepted his destiny after changing it, rather than controlling it after changing it" I'm gonna memorize those words and use it against everyone who might say Sora was an hypocrite against Xehanort when it's far far from the truth
There is never just hurting yourself. When hurt is present, there are others hurting too by one's action. Even if that hurt not directly immediate present, just by being the result of an action, means that others also got hurt by it. Sora disappearance hurt those that loves / known / trusted / rely on him.
@@chaellExE Yes, but Sora did not do it with the intention of hurting his friends, unlike Xehanort, who put himself above everyone and the consequences of his actions, unlike Sora, he accepted their consequences. Something that many forget is how difficult Sora's role as Keyblade Wielder is (And if several of Sora's friends also suffer from that) and I think Sora was aware that the war that was to come would leave its consequences on someone. . and he preferred to be the one affected rather than his friends. One more thing, Sacrifice is one of the greatest displays of love and the fact that Sora sacrificed himself for his and Kairi's friends says a lot about him. And if I leave more than one hurt, but tell me, it wasn't worth what Sora did, it wasn't worth the meeting with those people who fought so hard to be together, the new friendships that are about to be forged, the adventures that are about to happen. happen. to come and the promises that are about to be fulfilled. And yes, Sora may have left a void, but his sacrifice was not useless, it was a second chance for those people who needed it. Part of loss is grief and I am not going to deny that the loss of Sora did leave a big mark on his friends. But tell me, isn't it like that with sacrifices and deaths? Not only that, Sora doesn't see himself as a leader even though he acted like one, taking the initiative and looking out for the well-being of his friends, the reason he doesn't see himself as such is because his low self-esteem. he believes. that without them it is worth nothing. But part of that self-loathing that he has also comes from his humility because in the novel Kingdom Hearts III he narrates a line of what Sora thinks about Xehanort's ideals: “No one has the right to choose this for the entire world.” Sora does not consider himself a leader, on the contrary, he knows well that no one has the right to dictate the fate of the world or take control of every detail. What he did was change destiny, not control it, and he did not do it for reasons of superiority. He did it for his friends and the person he values most, and he accepted the consequences. He had in his hands the most massive power in the entire universe but he did not use it to control his destiny or exchange it for breaking a taboo. He accepted it and decided to spend the time he had left with the person dearest to him. .
This is a great video and expressed how I feel about that conversation perfectly. You said that you wouldn't get into the localization differences because they weren't relevant to the video, but I think that they offer a fascinating difference of perspective.
Before I get into the differences, I want to note how the series differentiates between the various worlds and the overall universe itself. In Japanese, they use "warudo" to describe the individual worlds and use "Sekai" (or the Japanese word for "world") to describe the overall Universe which was localized to "World" with a capital W. So, now for the differences.
When Xehanort responds to "It wasn't your call," rather than say that a Leader was necessary, he answers his own question of "who's call was it" with "the strong has the right. And the weak should merely accept the Destiny that the Strong dictate for them." I'm paraphrasing, but that was the essence of what he said. So, when Sora responds with "you aren't that person, Xehanort," he isn't just saying that Xehanort was unfit to be a leader, he was saying Xehanort wasn't one of the strong, he was weak. He finishes with "A truly strong person wouldn't try to control the World's (Sekai) Destiny. He would understand he doesn't have that kind of power." Sora is saying that strength isn't about Control, it is about understanding, and I find the difference fascinating as both the English and the Japanese express the same thing but from different perspectives. One is through the perspective of leadership and how exerting control over all isn't real leadership and the other is how truly strong people understand the limitations of their own power and the consequences for using it.
Anyway, I might have oversimplified things, but what is your take on this difference?
The difference you point out is one of the many reasons why I would love to learn Japanese one day. No matter what, like a game of telephone, things get lost in translation/localization.
I always knew of several differences, but not the ones you mentioned here. If that is indeed an accurate portrayal of the Japanese Sub then I gotta say it is much more perceptive and gives even more context.
they do not say Warudo, that’s a jojo thing. They say Sekai, witch can mean the world, society, or the universe in Japanese, it’s the lingo in KH for them using the word world/sekai when referring to a world, or all worlds, or The World capitalized witch means all worlds or the larger Multiverse. There’s stated to be uncountable worlds within The World, every world in KH is a universe with different flows of time and space in The World. The Kingdom Hearts cosmology is a multiverse.
@@TheDerrezalution i mean it being a multiverse was obvious XD
@@gracekim25 some people don’t catch on
@@TheDerrezalution people don't catch on it's a multiverse, but they do know each world is on their own time, as they even state, when a world goes into sleep, everything there stops, the people, the world itself, and once it wakes up, everything goes back to how it was. Meaning if a world can simply halt it's time in order to sleep, then that means each world has their own time. Which then if you think about it, being a multiverse isn't too far fetched. My only confusion comes in the form of the darkness in between each world. There are many ways to travel between worlds, but the most common is by vehicle, gummi ship, or keyblade transformations with the BBS trio. That expansive darkness acts as their space, if it were a multiverse, wouldn't they need to jump through portals? I guess they do in many cases when they have no ship, but when they do, they are literally just flying up and away, out into space, going to what would literally be another planet in our eyes, not a new universe.
Yes, now that this has been said aloud this makes the most sense.
Also your example of DiZ's Data Twilight Town is very interesting. After all DiZ was completely unable to control the people in Data Twilight Town after they started growing their own hearts through interaction with Roxas. If Data Twilight Town and Xehanort's plan are parallels, then I very much doubt that Xehanort's plan would have worked anyway. At lest not really.
As Young Xehanort says, paraphrasing, Hearts are a Mystery, and it is incredibly easy to dismiss what you cannot See.
Sora is so humble..... Agh. Couldnt tell someone how much this game means to me and all of symbolism
The few words between Sora and Xehanort had me spellbound, and the final conversation was so short and sweet, without animosity despite Sora's anguish over all that's happened. It allowed Sora to have a moment to show the wisdom he's gathered over the course of his journey in a way that's true to him. He may be a little foolish and naive at times but at this scene shows what's at Sora's core almost more than any other moment in the series. Awesome video mane
"You make me think of an old friend" - To this day, still chokes me up and gives me chills. For even just a split second, Sora made Xehanort remember what it was like to have a friend
@@TheLandiLodge It also reminds Xehanort of the person he was trying to impress, the one he wanted to be the idol for. Think of Riku and Sora in KH1. It is, in a sense, a "Look at Me, See Me, Be Lead By Me." And That is why Eraqus gets Xehanort to give in. Eraqus "saw" him.
This is one scene where I actually loved Sora in kh3. He finally felt like a more mature character who really learned something through his travels.
I hope he carries over this kind of attitude to kh4 while still retaining his goofy side. Most of kh3 was him being too goofy for me.
More so being too Disney
I agree with you.
Xehanort’s logic is more sympathetic, I can’t help but think however if he won and got his way, he would suffer consequences still. I also admit that the path Xehanort took was very tempting for me if it ever did exist as an option for me.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but something else I always liked about this scene is how what Sora says ties into tthe Master of Masters, at least in the context of the Dark Seeker Saga.
He's someone who foresaw the world falling into darkness but did nothing to stop it, because he knew that, in the end, there was nothing he could really do. He just accepted fate.
But he also foresaw another darkness farther into the future, one he could do something about, so he tasked Ava with sending key blade wielders(the Dandelions)into another realm, so their strength could be used by Sora in the upcoming fight against Xehanort. So when Sora talked about "accepting fate when you know there's nothing you can do" I immediately thought of that. And like you said, Sora doesn't try to defy it, he did what he saw was possible: exchanging Kairi's life for his own. He sacrificed himself for her like he always does, but accepted his own death.
But the reason I said "in the context of the Dark Seeker Saga" is because I consider X to be a part of it, but not Union X. In X and Back Cover that interpretation of the MoM still works, but with him being hyped up as the new villain I'm sure it won't make much sense with the new saga(it already doesn't with the little that we've seen in UX).
Actually proves Sora is a keyblade master. Cause destiny itself is something everyone try's to either control or can't understand it's always beyond anyone's control.
So maybe Sora's final words also tells what the master of master is trying to do against destiny itself.
Sora is beyond the title of master at this point lol. It'd be like a meaningless pin on his shirt now.
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MoM: Then tell me one thing Sora… Why? WHY DO I STILL HAVE THE DRIVE NOT TO ACCEPT THE PAIN AND TRAUMA THAT WAS FORCED UPON ME WHILE I WAS JUST A LITTLE BOY?! WHAT RIGHT DO YOU HAVE TO DEFY ME LIKE AVA TRIED TO DO, YOU INSOLENT AND SELFISH CHILDREN!!!!
I agree with all of your words and maybe Sora is the one is supposed to be the leader he is nice strong and kind and maybe that's that's his spot in the world
Also it help that sora being ejected from reality basically is a temporary setback. Like no one doubted for a second that he was gone for good.
The hand movements that Xehanort does always caught my eye, I can totally see the puppet master analogy
Great analysis on this one. :)
A little off topic, but a thing I noticed in the final battle.
Sora, Donald and Goofy fought Xehanort spiritually for the final boss of 3. Meanwhile, Kairi and Time Traveler Sora fought the physical body of Xehanort in ReMind. It's not stated anywhere, but when you think about it, it just makes since.
As for theories, have you ever had a theory regarding dark Riku talking to Maleficent in Big Hero 6? A lot of people shoot it down, which I can understand, but I had a hunch that Dark Riku was actually poccessed by a Darkness from Union X without Xehanort's knowledge. It was an Empty replica made for Repliku riku, but considering the heart wasn't full formed yet for Repliku, darkness may have stowed away inside the replica.
Also notice that one scene where Luxu/Xigbar tapped Dark Riku on the shoulder and we see a giant dark entity appear behind him. Implying Luxu knew something and told him to do what it wanted. We know he can sense/see Darkness after all. The dark figure is most likely Darkness showing it's true face.
Take what you will from all this. This is just observations with a theory to go with it. I'm just wondering what others think. It may be reaching, but these things are still fun to talk about.
Have a blessed day/night! ^^
Leave it to Landi to highlight one of the many lessons Sora has taught over the years. Absolutely beautiful.
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Sora pretty much admits he himself is not a leader.
Sora changes the destinies if the other guardians, and accepts the price.
This is pretty much all the more reason why he doesn’t need to be deemed as a Keyblade Master.
I mean,
would you really want a creepy bald guy who killed his best friend, Himself, His teacher, His students, a 15-year-old boy, His other selves, & his hair to rule over the world?
Great distinction between the two, thanks for highlighting!
"Very well done."
Great video! I like what you pointed out about the differences between them both, cos yeah they both wanted to basically change their destiny but like Xehanort asked Sora "are you prepared to pay the ultimate price?" Yeah he was, but he wasn't going to destroy everything to try and prevent it
This was incredibly meaningful to me, and changed this game for me. Thank you. Your intense insight has earned you a subscriber.
Really cool video. Thanks for posting!
Sora is basically Moses, the liberator for his people/friends to deliver them to freedom. While Xehanort is like Ramses, wanting to become a strong and great leader to have everything under control due to his stubbornness and pride, and afraid of becoming the 'weak link'.
YES 1000% to this
You know, I always did make biblical comparisons to KH, and P5R a lot of the time. And I was like: This might sound crazy... but what if Sora is a "Son of God" just in fictional terms LOL Great point.
P5R and kh are goated. What biblical comparisons have you made for P5R?
Another GREAT video my friend! I hope we get some stuff this month. Waiting for Dark Road Finale has been too long since the last content update that we had. I guess we probably won't see any KH4 stuff, but I hope we'll get something soon for Missing Link. My fingers are itching to go loose on my Android Phone and iOS iPad Pro
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Dang this just hit me sora alway claim that kairi and his friends was his power they gave him everything so if you look at how Kh3 ended when everybody die sora paid it froward with his own life for there kindness
Sora is humble and pure he on par with characters like Pit(Kid icarus Uprising),Link(Legend of Zelda) and Shulk(Xenoblade Chronicles)! He’s willing to Pay the price for his nature, taboo, unlike Xehanort Struck down his old friend, Manipulate Wayfinder trio, Formed an organization, Destroy destiny island, Captured the princess of hearts, Manipulatel Riku and . Trading nobody’s! He’s essentially the opposite of Sora!
They are so Sora (Kingdom Hearts) and Link (The Legend of Zelda) are my favorite video game heroes. ❤🗝️🔺🗡️
Wow, I’m glad I came across this video now, I just recently did a study of my own on how Riku gains his power from within, having external forces as support.
And how Riku Replica serves as an opposing force to that, in how everything he gains are things that are solely given to him (I.e memories, abilities)
Thank you for this video. Honestly I was kind of disapointed by this ending because I thought it was just pretty generic. But now I feel like I can finally appreciate it and I wanted to be able to.
Great video man, I feel like you made that just for me.
This reminds me of one of my favorite quotes of all time...
*"THE BEST WAY TO PREDICT THE FUTURE IS TO INVENT IT"* - Alan Kay
Xehanort wanted control and lead the darkness to its own destruction but his feelings on the trauma he's suffered never allowed him to understand the basic rules of nature
Sora changed his destiny and saved everyone by sacrificing himself, knowingly or unknowingly. Sora fading away means he saved kairi and in return still committed a nature taboo, which comes with a price. In turn saving the reality of KH and everyone in it. Xehanort isn’t evil. He’s really the anti hero of his own story,doing what he feels needs to be done, to save the world. Control, lacking freedom, his ideal world will have no darkness in theory, and reset the universe like a big bang, and he will lead the new world with light. This was his plan all along, and even if their is light, theirs no telling if darkness will come back again in his ideal reality, however even if no darkness existed, their would be a lack of free choice, his empire would be more like a prison and he’d most likely rule with an iron fist. Even with no darkness that doesn’t mean evil won’t exist, some darkness is separate from peoples greed and intentions.
Man.... Xehanort in this scene echo's Melchior talking about using weapons to bring life instead of end it.
'The Light, the symbol of the (a) worlds hope. Was DEVOURED by shadow'
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calamity in itself is something that can never truly be stopped indefinitaly. sora unlike xeanort chose to except the consequenses of his actions where xeanort didn't want to. sora is more responsible in knowing that he can not make decisions for other people only for himself because he knew it was not his place to control others. sora & xeanort have different personalities & beliefs. wish that there was a way to revive replica riku while rescuing yozora, ephemer, & the heart in the final world while finding isa/saix's missing girlfrined as well as forteller ava. it would be fun to sea isa/siax along with even, ienzo, twilight town kid trio, marluxia, demyx, larxene, namine, yozora, ephemer, & luxard wielding keyblades. would not be surprised if isa/siax became a keyblade wielder & got to take his mark of mastery test before lea/axel. isa could tease lea about reaching the point of being ready for the mark of mastery test before or at the time lea takes it for neglecting to hone his training so much to let him catch up if he managed to get a keyblade.
Whoa I somehow missed this video but thank you for covering that scene. Many have misinterpreted it and seem to think Xehanort is a 'misunderstood good guy' when that's not true
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I took it differently, to me, it felt like it paralleled Sora with Xehanort as in, they both had good intentions but their actions are evil in essence. They both went about it differently but what Sora did could come at the expense of others, he has no idea what the ramifications of literally breaking a fundamental law of the world could be. It's not really anymore justified than what Xehanort or MoM did.
"KH3 ruined Xehanort! They had him being a misunderstood good guy!"
Xehanort: *Literally says he wants to be a dictator*
Straight facts as always. This is going straight into my Facts In General Playlist.
And as for Sora saying he knows that a real leader cannot change destiny and accepts that, to be fair, Sora never said he was a real leader.
Hardly a dictator, more like a tyrant with an insane plan.
The kh3 elitist who hates every kh game other than kh3 defending the game spending hours writing essays and speaks bullshit.
My real problem that Xehanort having good intention the entire time was just brought up at the end. No confusing speech in the last game, no one in .Org 13 commenting how bad the worlds are. Nothing.
Didn’t even have to be told to Sora, just do something that ‘Super Paper Mario’ did have have text about past events pop up at the end of each chapter.
@@Raximus3000 So, guess what. When I got your comment earlier, it showed up under my comment. But right now, it's gone. I can't see it anymore under my comment. RUclips, fix your sh!t please!
@@GODZILLA2915 I mean, why should the organization care about what Xehanort is planning? And Xehanort always has this intention back at BBS. You just have to read his reports.
Ansem the Wise said it best to Xemnas (one of Xehanort's halves) by saying that any kingdom of his creation would be one of ignorance.
After watching Dark Road’s ending man this scene has LAYERS
A sequel to this video is already in the works lol
“A purge” he does say soras to late so musta he set a plan in motion. Which sounds like jus a reset
If it was his "destiny" to use the power of waking, what about all the warnings of doing so since Dream Drop or Chirithy and Young Xehanort's warnings? I don't think if you're being warned of a damning consequence means it's "Destiny" Just a thought. Loved the video =)
That’s an interesting perspective. One I can agree with.
Notice how Sora's voice is SUPER echoey in that clip, but Xehanorts isnt at all.
Interesting....I never noticed
Master Xehanort last words to Sora when he said "You remind me of a old friend". Do you think he referring to Master of Masters? 🤔🤔
I always interpreted that as him thinking of Eraqus
no he meant Eraqus
He is a pure light a bekon of hope
so so far there are 3 approaches to how to deal with darkness :O
Xehanort has a point but he is misguided
Child of Destiny (Xehanort)
The Singularity (Sora)
is there a video that explains the dlc that s... still got me confused
If you have any questions I can try to answer them for you here
yes thats what makes sora strong and i know kairi is to she will be next to sora and riku
In the end, Xehanort is just Another X.
I wish there was more substance and whatnot to the arguments provided, but it really is interesting how most of the people who criticize the story in this game for being mediocre or bad either didn't pay attention or couldn't be bothered to think critically about it. Ultimately, people thought they would get whatever finale to the Dark Seeker Saga that they personally wanted, so they turned their brains off as to not think about the story in any meaningful capacity, and then they later realized that it was something different than what they wanted, only to then complain as if the story was lesser for it instead of understanding the differences between their personal preferences and objective quality.
I don't even care about the story in these games anymore, but even I didn't walk away from KH3 after playing through the whole game for the first time within the first two weeks of launch thinking that it had a terrible or mediocre story. Though it had some legitimate writing issues in certain places, it was fine overall, people are just petty.
KH3 is so underrated.
Riku is the fated boy!!!!!!!
Trust me, you're not that guy
I'm all in Xehanort's 14th self!
Very well said. I never agreed with some other reviews that Xehanort suddenly had this 180 degree change of heart. This is a good way to look at it and puts his lust for the X-blade into a better context. "I did it to achieve Godhood in a new world to make sure light always prevails". Instead of "No guys it was just a joke, I know I caused a bunch of problems but I promise it was all for the greater good". It keeps Xehanort much more in line with his dark plans. "If no one will step up to play the role then I will", then proceed to ruin others lives to make that dream a reality. And then it only brings into question: will he actually do what he promises, or is this yet another trick like him gaslighting Tera? I'm sure in the beginning there was some good intentions, he held onto his ideals, but man was it awful execution.
Does this mean kh4 defines his destiny? Since it should be about him being saved
and people say Sora is dumb
Ah yes my favorite game about Gnosticism
Xehanort doesn’t want to be a god he wants to be the peoples leader as a human being.
2:26 “ A REAL leader, knows that destiny is beyond their control”
Yeah and what about when you used the power of waking to literally change destiny?
It was within Sora's capabilities to use the power of waking the way he did so i would say in this instance "changing destiny" was technically destiny in a sense.
Exactly, Sora isnt trying to unlock Kingdom Hearts to become a God and control the fate of the entire Universe at will.
He did what was within his own Power, and he paid the price for it. If Sora was trying to "change Destiny" in the same way Xehanort did, he wouldnt have changed it to where he dies and goes to another universe, Sora had no control over his ultimate fate and he accepted that.
Also, Xehanort WANTED Sora to save his friends, it was necessary for the 7 lights and 13 darknesses to clash so Xehanort could forge the x-blade
Xehanort wants to control literally everything all by himself and is willing to out right omnicide to make that happen.
Sora accidentally changed the course of destiny, knows full well he didn't do that with just his power alone (it was the force of multiple people returning to existence all at once that did it, and it was thanks to Kairi he was even able to pull that off), and sacrificed all control over his own fate in the end in order to save Kairi right back.
@@DenisK21 so sora changed destiny but its justified cuz xehanort did it first. Kingdom hearts as a whole is always about changing destiny/fate. Everyones a hypocrite.
@@RedRag684 You ignored the point completely. It's not about controlling destiny in general, because literally EVERYONE collectively does that. It's about Xehanort's obsessive insistence that a single person should control what happens to everything all by himself (and, again, attempting OMNICIDE to do that) and Sora's defeating him by doing the exact opposite of that.
You’ve made a great point here.
I just wished that Xehanort being a ‘misguided good guy’ was properly build up throughout KH3. Even if they just did what ‘Super Paper Mario’ did at the end of each of its chapters.
Honestly I hated KH3’s story but I’ve always liked this conversation. One of the game’s highlights tbh
I believe this but also believe that Sora is the master of masters
Wondering why Xehanort would see Sora as worthy considering Sora got help from Donald and Goofy. Sora literally lost but you know what happened next… power of friendship. If not because of that Sora’s fate is already sealed.
Kh3s story makes no freaking sense in some parts. Generally there are so many add ones that are happening that don't belong in this game. This game was the end of the xehanort saga. I hope they bring justice to this game after the next installments.
Xehanort sounds like woke twitter, LOL!
"A real leader knows that shitposters are beyond their control. AND ACCEPTS THAT."
@@TheLandiLodge nah. Shitposters are like attention hoars. Ignore them and you take away their power.
@@Hynotama if only the darkness could work in a similar fashion.
@@TheLandiLodge in a way, it does. To quote Aqua: "what is darkness, but anger and hate?" So just ignore it. Find inner peace, cut off all the malicious hearts in your life and you're pretty much set. Of course, Sora is also right. You can't have one without the other. But ignore it as best you can and you'll be 5 steps ahead of most people.
@@Hynotama I suppose that could be true in some ways. But you can ignore Darkness all you want, that doesnt prevent it from being there, it is half of everything after all.
One can choose to ignore Darkness, but there are many forms of darkness that are enabled when ignored. What works on shitposters isnt going to work for things like addiction or personal malevolent habits one might have.
That said, I do mostly agree with the overall sentiment.
I find the games better if you just skip the cutscenes
Just throwing this out there but I did not like Xehanort new voice actor.
Nimoy, the original VA was a gem. Maybe if KH3 didn't take some 13 yrs to finish making the game, Nimoy could have voiced acted before kicking the bucket.