I use token economy with a 10 year old child i support in work, and it works well. I allow him to choose (within reason) what he wants to exchange his 10 tokens for. Hes got work done and gets a treat out of it, weve done baking, a trip to the park, hes brought in horse shoes to clean, played a board game together and he will even ask for things to do if he earns his tokens. It does take him roughly a week to earn them but it doesnt matter. The only thing i cant encourage him to do is do his treat with a friend, which is very frustrating.
Token economies are manipulation, plain and simple. The holder of the tokens learns to objectify their subjects, and the subject can see rightly that they are being manipulated by somebody who does not respect them. To the extent that you use token economies on us, we will hate you. To the extent that you use token economies on yourself, you will lose respect for yourself. The sooner we all unlearn the token economy as a way to control people or ourselves, the sooner we can all grow into wiser, freer, and happier people.
All token exchange systems did when I was a child was trained me to be a trained seal and only work for a treat for tangible reward. I never learned internal motivation from them.
It shows people they're going a great job learning. It isn't just used in ABA. It's used in all of life. If you live in a society and have a job, the money you get is literally a token by definition as it can be exchanged for something. How is that bad?
@@misspinkpunkykatIt isn't supposed to teach you to have "internal motivation" for token economies. It's supposed to be used to teach people (usually kids) to WAIT for whatever they want so they can learn what they need to learn while simultaneously showing them they are doing a good job learning in the moment. It's continous reinforcement in a nutshell and can be exchanged for a bigger reinforcement at the end.
Anything it taught me was to expect a reward for everything every single little thing. And when I stopped getting rewards for every single little thing I quit doing things. If someone wanted me to do something I didn't want to do they would have to bargain with me and if they did not have anything that appealed to me forget it
@@misspinkpunkykat That means you were dependent on it and the reinforcement schedule wasn't set up correctly. Token economies are supposed to be temporary as they aren't natural. It was used wrong in your case. That doesn't make it ineffective or evil
I use token economy with a 10 year old child i support in work, and it works well. I allow him to choose (within reason) what he wants to exchange his 10 tokens for. Hes got work done and gets a treat out of it, weve done baking, a trip to the park, hes brought in horse shoes to clean, played a board game together and he will even ask for things to do if he earns his tokens. It does take him roughly a week to earn them but it doesnt matter. The only thing i cant encourage him to do is do his treat with a friend, which is very frustrating.
Choice is an important thing. Instead of asking him to choose to share his reward...try giving him a reward for doing something with a friend.
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Token economies are manipulation, plain and simple. The holder of the tokens learns to objectify their subjects, and the subject can see rightly that they are being manipulated by somebody who does not respect them. To the extent that you use token economies on us, we will hate you. To the extent that you use token economies on yourself, you will lose respect for yourself. The sooner we all unlearn the token economy as a way to control people or ourselves, the sooner we can all grow into wiser, freer, and happier people.
All token exchange systems did when I was a child was trained me to be a trained seal and only work for a treat for tangible reward. I never learned internal motivation from them.
It shows people they're going a great job learning. It isn't just used in ABA. It's used in all of life. If you live in a society and have a job, the money you get is literally a token by definition as it can be exchanged for something. How is that bad?
@@misspinkpunkykatIt isn't supposed to teach you to have "internal motivation" for token economies. It's supposed to be used to teach people (usually kids) to WAIT for whatever they want so they can learn what they need to learn while simultaneously showing them they are doing a good job learning in the moment. It's continous reinforcement in a nutshell and can be exchanged for a bigger reinforcement at the end.
Anything it taught me was to expect a reward for everything every single little thing. And when I stopped getting rewards for every single little thing I quit doing things. If someone wanted me to do something I didn't want to do they would have to bargain with me and if they did not have anything that appealed to me forget it
@@misspinkpunkykat That means you were dependent on it and the reinforcement schedule wasn't set up correctly. Token economies are supposed to be temporary as they aren't natural. It was used wrong in your case. That doesn't make it ineffective or evil