@jamel11234 "Anointing is when the after effects of your prayer is doors opening for other people and also one's self. Many great things have happen under his leadership and many great lives have been influenced for the good".
@cinematone You are right I know nothing about JB or his situation...but here is the thing neither do you but you are soooo convinced that he is so very anointed.
@cinematone Where did you get that definition. Anointing has noting to do with what you just said. This explains why so many people are deceived...they throw words around without even knowing what they mean. Just because someone can preach or hoop does not mean they have the "anointing", or even if someone is an influential leader does not mean they have the "anointing"
@cinematone You do realize that the Bible says--"Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles"--- prophesying and casting out demons sure does sound anointed to me...but God will think otherwise.
have you seen the bently?? James 4:12 There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you-who are you to judge your neighbor?
@cinematone Well the dictionary definition is a start...but thats completely different than what you said before about someone whose prayers opens doors for people. You are correct with the definition...but it also means consecrated service to God--- there is a standard of Holiness involved with being anointed.
dis is 4 "tbursee"..with all do respect, da bible says, Matt 8:7-He that is without sin among you, let him cast the 1st stone". Theres no need 2 point da finger bcuz ur not perfect either..For we all have sinned and fell short of the glory..ur not equipped 2 judge him..jus pray 4 him..
@jamel11234 I m not looking for your theory on anointing I'm good with my understanding. Secondly since when does sin preclude one from being anointed. Many chosen men of GOD have fell short . GOD gives his gift with no repentance. As I referenced before David-Murder and adulterer Moses- Murder Solomon- Adulterer Peter-Liar. Where these men not anointed. Gimme a break!! Unless you judge righteously be careful about defining any man of GOD especially when you may not have facts.
@cinematone I never said anything about Bryants indiscretions because frankly I do not know about that...i am not quick to jump on rumors. I simply asked you a question about anointing. I wrote already that I am not saying that JB is not anointed..but I do not know that he is because I do not know him personally, dont know what he has done, dont know what his ministry is all about..all I see is that he is a good public speaker..which is irrelevant in regard to being anointed.
@cinematone One can have natural abilities and Pastor a church and still not be anointed because of their lifestyle...my point is that you cant know if someone is truly anointed just by seeing their talents, gifts, or abilities in action. Even the most sinful, rebellious preachers will function in gifts and abilities. They are not a sign that one is anointed. Hey I claim no illumination from heaven on this matte..its through research and study, and not just jumping on every buzz word on tv
Jesus said watch out for false teachers.....all I am saying people is to have discernment..not everything that looks anointed )according to our misguided interpretation of what anointing means) is anointed..simple as that. I am not talking about JB personally cuz I dont know the man personally nor what he has or has not done. This is not some great theological concept..its common sense. God never asks us to check our brains at the door to follow him..he still wants us to have sense!
@cinematone I get it though...JB is your man and maybe I hit a sore spot with you, but i was not talking about him personally. There is nothing wrong with encouraging people to have discernment...by that you assumed that I was talking about JB personally..but i was not. And if you say that he is anointed because he prays and opens doors then i have no choice but to take your word for it
@jamel11234 say what you mean and mean what you say. But please think before you speak. Its better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
@cinematone What those men have in common is that they were very repentant...you have a whole chapter in Psalms that shows David's heart about what he had done. You're grasping at straws here.
@cinematone Here is my statement about JB so we are clear...I dont know the man, dont know what he did if he did anything...BUT I DONT KNOW IF HE IS ANOINTED OR NOT EITHER, so i will not be quick to respond negatively or positively about him without knowing anything. I think this is consistent with everything that I have said...can you say otherwise? You brought up any supposed indiscretion. Heck I came on this board to see what he was preaching thats all
@cinematone I said what I mean't....just because you do not understand me or care to understand does not mean I am not saying what I mean. I asked a simple question, how can you tell that one is anointed. I said we must be discerning..I said gifts are not an indication of anointing, I said not everyone that says i did this and I did that will get into heaven, I said the men you mentioned were repentant...and I said I said nothing of JBs indiscretions..go back, read, and attempt to understand
@cinematone All i said is that those men were repentant. I did not say that JB was not repentant I did not even claim to know what he did or if he did anything at all. Show me where I said JB is not repentant or had anything to repent about. You were the one that used Paul, David, and Moses as examples.I said nothing about losing the anointing...ALL I ASKED WAS HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN ONE IS ANOINTED..that was the question to begin. You actually brought abut rumors about his indiscretions
@jamel11234 Oh and I never said talent or gifts was a sign of anointing but let me say this it definitely inst a sign that one is not. So whats the point of this anyway. If prayer doesn't change things then obviously there was absolutely no anointing in it. Which validates my original claim that one should be able to see the effects of prayer when a Person is anointed. Which I have seen in Jamal. Perhaps you are keeping a steno pad of all his indiscretions. Good luck casting the first stone.
@jamel11234 First off the dictionary explains it as "to dedicate to the service of god". If Jamal isnt that then I dont know what is. Secondly I will not get into a internet war on what effects this mans anointing has had on me personally. Don't approach youtube as if you have reached some divine illumniation and the rest of the world is blind. Especially when you know absolutely nothing about me.
@cinematone "Drop the mic"-- cute. What I do know about you is that you think Bryant is anointed simply because "his prayers opens doors for people"...lol I mean come on here...I am just asking you to think here. And dont throw misguided notions about Judging at me...another word you might need to look up and define...we are called to judge (discern) correctly. Asking what it means to be anointed is not judging with hypocrisy is it?-- again I asked a simple question..i was not getting at JB
@jamel11234 No actually my point is when you reference scripture there is something actually tangible. When you speak on a mans life which you admitted to knowing nothing about suggest you know whether or not JB is "repentant" as you put it. Which we both no by your own admittance you don't know. For the record I don't reach for anything, if anything I'm waving at the enemy. "hi hater". Again drop the mic dawg for real. Perhaps you should brush up on your Apologetic s before trying to educate.
@jamel11234 Lets be clear! You don't know what or who I know. As I mentioned before you don't know me which actually puts you in no position to even speak on what the dynamics are between JB and I. I actually never referenced that. The problem with assumptions is that without facts they leave you looking like a clown. Do you know Moses, Peter, Paul etc. I think not! Yet you seem convinced of their stance going on nothing other than faith. Drop the mic!! for real!
@cinematone I know they repented..simple as that. You speak of assumptions but you promote your assumption that JB is anointed..when all I am saying is that we must have discernment. Be serious here
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@jamel11234
"Anointing is when the after effects of your prayer is doors opening for other people and also one's self. Many great things have happen under his leadership and many great lives have been influenced for the good".
@cinematone
"The anointing is on JB".....what would you say is the "anointing". What does anointing mean?
did you have reservations across the hall or something? were you there?
@cinematone
You are right I know nothing about JB or his situation...but here is the thing neither do you but you are soooo convinced that he is so very anointed.
@cinematone
And realize that I am not saying that JB is not anointed I just wanted to be clear on whether or not you are calling it correctly.
@cinematone
Where did you get that definition. Anointing has noting to do with what you just said. This explains why so many people are deceived...they throw words around without even knowing what they mean. Just because someone can preach or hoop does not mean they have the "anointing", or even if someone is an influential leader does not mean they have the "anointing"
@cinematone
You do realize that the Bible says--"Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles"--- prophesying and casting out demons sure does sound anointed to me...but God will think otherwise.
have you seen the bently?? James 4:12 There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you-who are you to judge your neighbor?
@cinematone
Well the dictionary definition is a start...but thats completely different than what you said before about someone whose prayers opens doors for people. You are correct with the definition...but it also means consecrated service to God--- there is a standard of Holiness involved with being anointed.
dis is 4 "tbursee"..with all do respect, da bible says, Matt 8:7-He that is without sin among you, let him cast the 1st stone". Theres no need 2 point da finger bcuz ur not perfect either..For we all have sinned and fell short of the glory..ur not equipped 2 judge him..jus pray 4 him..
What about the ones that did contract HIV? They did not have Faith?
@jamel11234
I m not looking for your theory on anointing I'm good with my understanding. Secondly since when does sin preclude one from being anointed. Many chosen men of GOD have fell short . GOD gives his gift with no repentance. As I referenced before David-Murder and adulterer
Moses- Murder
Solomon- Adulterer
Peter-Liar.
Where these men not anointed. Gimme a break!!
Unless you judge righteously be careful about defining any man of GOD especially when you may not have facts.
@cinematone
I never said anything about Bryants indiscretions because frankly I do not know about that...i am not quick to jump on rumors. I simply asked you a question about anointing. I wrote already that I am not saying that JB is not anointed..but I do not know that he is because I do not know him personally, dont know what he has done, dont know what his ministry is all about..all I see is that he is a good public speaker..which is irrelevant in regard to being anointed.
@cinematone
One can have natural abilities and Pastor a church and still not be anointed because of their lifestyle...my point is that you cant know if someone is truly anointed just by seeing their talents, gifts, or abilities in action. Even the most sinful, rebellious preachers will function in gifts and abilities. They are not a sign that one is anointed. Hey I claim no illumination from heaven on this matte..its through research and study, and not just jumping on every buzz word on tv
Jesus said watch out for false teachers.....all I am saying people is to have discernment..not everything that looks anointed )according to our misguided interpretation of what anointing means) is anointed..simple as that. I am not talking about JB personally cuz I dont know the man personally nor what he has or has not done. This is not some great theological concept..its common sense. God never asks us to check our brains at the door to follow him..he still wants us to have sense!
@cinematone
I get it though...JB is your man and maybe I hit a sore spot with you, but i was not talking about him personally. There is nothing wrong with encouraging people to have discernment...by that you assumed that I was talking about JB personally..but i was not. And if you say that he is anointed because he prays and opens doors then i have no choice but to take your word for it
@jamel11234
say what you mean and mean what you say. But please think before you speak. Its better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
@cinematone
What those men have in common is that they were very repentant...you have a whole chapter in Psalms that shows David's heart about what he had done. You're grasping at straws here.
@cinematone
Here is my statement about JB so we are clear...I dont know the man, dont know what he did if he did anything...BUT I DONT KNOW IF HE IS ANOINTED OR NOT EITHER, so i will not be quick to respond negatively or positively about him without knowing anything. I think this is consistent with everything that I have said...can you say otherwise? You brought up any supposed indiscretion. Heck I came on this board to see what he was preaching thats all
@cinematone
I said what I mean't....just because you do not understand me or care to understand does not mean I am not saying what I mean. I asked a simple question, how can you tell that one is anointed. I said we must be discerning..I said gifts are not an indication of anointing, I said not everyone that says i did this and I did that will get into heaven, I said the men you mentioned were repentant...and I said I said nothing of JBs indiscretions..go back, read, and attempt to understand
@cinematone
All i said is that those men were repentant. I did not say that JB was not repentant I did not even claim to know what he did or if he did anything at all. Show me where I said JB is not repentant or had anything to repent about. You were the one that used Paul, David, and Moses as examples.I said nothing about losing the anointing...ALL I ASKED WAS HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN ONE IS ANOINTED..that was the question to begin. You actually brought abut rumors about his indiscretions
@jamel11234
Oh and I never said talent or gifts was a sign of anointing but let me say this it definitely inst a sign that one is not. So whats the point of this anyway. If prayer doesn't change things then obviously there was absolutely no anointing in it. Which validates my original claim that one should be able to see the effects of prayer when a Person is anointed. Which I have seen in Jamal. Perhaps you are keeping a steno pad of all his indiscretions. Good luck casting the first stone.
@jamel11234
First off the dictionary explains it as "to dedicate to the service of god". If Jamal isnt that then I dont know what is. Secondly I will not get into a internet war on what effects this mans anointing has had on me personally. Don't approach youtube as if you have reached some divine illumniation and the rest of the world is blind. Especially when you know absolutely nothing about me.
@cinematone
"Drop the mic"-- cute. What I do know about you is that you think Bryant is anointed simply because "his prayers opens doors for people"...lol I mean come on here...I am just asking you to think here. And dont throw misguided notions about Judging at me...another word you might need to look up and define...we are called to judge (discern) correctly. Asking what it means to be anointed is not judging with hypocrisy is it?-- again I asked a simple question..i was not getting at JB
@jamel11234
No actually my point is when you reference scripture there is something actually tangible. When you speak on a mans life which you admitted to knowing nothing about suggest you know whether or not JB is "repentant" as you put it. Which we both no by your own admittance you don't know. For the record I don't reach for anything, if anything I'm waving at the enemy. "hi hater". Again drop the mic dawg for real. Perhaps you should brush up on your Apologetic s before trying to educate.
@jamel11234
Lets be clear! You don't know what or who I know. As I mentioned before you don't know me which actually puts you in no position to even speak on what the dynamics are between JB and I. I actually never referenced that. The problem with assumptions is that without facts they leave you looking like a clown.
Do you know Moses, Peter, Paul etc. I think not! Yet you seem convinced of their stance going on nothing other than faith. Drop the mic!! for real!
@cinematone
I know they repented..simple as that. You speak of assumptions but you promote your assumption that JB is anointed..when all I am saying is that we must have discernment. Be serious here