College Professor Censors Anti-Obama Comment on Free Speech Wall
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- Last year, college censorship took a turn for the ridiculous when a professor at Sam Houston State University vandalized a student-sponsored "free speech wall" with a box-cutting knife to remove anti-President Obama speech he didn't like. When the students complained about the vandalism to the campus police, the police took the professor's side and demanded still more censorship, leading students to dismantle the wall. Morgan Freeman, the student who organized the protest, recounts this amazing and disturbing story in FIRE's latest video.
Warning: the story involves a four-letter word!
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Produced by Ted Balaker. Interview by Greg Lukianoff. Music "Alice in Wonderland" by Emma Wallace (Magnatune Records)
IF YOU HAVE TO ASK PERMISSION TO BE FREE YOU'RE NOT FREE
+Og maco Sheesh Agreed: if you have to ask a government permission to exercise a right, you are not free and it is no longer a right but a privilege granted by the people in power. All those who claimed that the 2nd Amendment was no longer relevant and wanted all the gun control laws passed were warned by the pro-gun rights people that if we allowed the government to control this one right, free speech would be attacked next. After which comes the infringement of our right of protection against unwarranted searches (which has now been declared LEGAL by our WI state supreme court!). And so the blatant erosion of our first and forth amendment rights begins, just as predicted. Why am I not surprised?
+otm1942 I blame the school system cause when I was in history class kids thought there where 52 states and had NOOOOO CLUE what Congress was or the bill of rights so...... I blame common core 100% I had to be a little bit of a rebel to stand up for what was American and moral in school cause (liberal) teachers would try to teach us half assed history and common facts.... it's so annoying seeing so many people of my age group voting for Bernie they simply have no understanding or pride for the country they live in BTW I got a 95% on my citizens test when everybody else fucks of getting 60%s all over the place soory for the rant but politics pisses me off but I feel like I have to stand up for what's right
+Mufti Husayni, Nazi General, Palestine MUSLIM OFFICIAL google it: IslamicPogromsOnJewsBEFOREzionism Lol, ok buddy. You do realize that Hitler's definition of self is worth absolutely nothing in an academic analysis of what he was right? An analysis of his party and his policies are what counts. He was technically a Neo-Fascist actually.
+Og maco Sheesh Curse words are not acceptable when it is in a public place. I do not lie the Marxist Obama, but the F word was the problem.
MrRondonmon Why not its free speech
My rights don't end at your feelings. I say this often and want it to spread.
+Meatbyproducts Look, I love me some Obama, and I absolutely agree. You're perfectly free to criticize whoever you want. And I'll keep criticizing your guys. ;) Not all liberals agree with this fascistic b.s..
+Sean L. I am not a left or right.
+Meatbyproducts If they had to request permission to put up this wall in the middle of campus, it never was a freedom issue to begin with. It's sad that people are responding to the name it was given, rather than what it actually was.
+MrSilus2000 so we meet again on a different video! well at least we're agreeing whole-heartedly on this one. ;)
+MrSilus2000 Your logic (or rather, your lack thereof) is truly astounding. "If they had to request permission to put up this wall in the middle of campus, it never was a freedom issue to begin with." How the hell (in your mind, anyway) does B follow from A?? Your words are ridiculous (in a fascistic kind of way)... and I loathe ultraliberalism and much as I loathe the extreme right. Pretty ironic when "liberals" morph into fascists, and censor Republicans or Libertarians who disagree with them!
But again, how the hell does the fact that they were required to ask permission to conduct an experiment involving the exercise of their guaranteed first amendment rights, on an "institute of higher learning" campus, no less, make this not a "freedom of speech issue" (when someone who objects to the content for political reasons objects to it, and is able to censor their freedom of speech in public)... in your tortured, ultraliberal mindset?? I'm fascinated to know what goes on inside your mind (and the minds of those who think likewise) to come up with your non-sequitur conclusions!!! :O)
"Free speech is legal until it offends someone?"
"Yes."
"...I find that offensive."
*officers head explodes*
"Still Fuck Obama" that's good! LMFAO
Guy with a sign: "Fuck Boxcutters"
Good to see students actually standing up for free speech.
+peronkop There is a difference between free speech and a "free speech wall". One is an idea this country was founded on, the other was a name given to advertisement space for students to write on. Get past the name.
+peronkop Except that they didn't stand up for it, they bowed and ultimately let their speech be taken away.
it was a given when I was at McMaster University-now the place is filled with students drowning out anyone they don't like and accusing opponents of m103 to be racists and fascists and Nazis ...look in the mirror folks-
Dre Zee What? Bullshit
+Nestors Dragon What a clearly articulated and thought through counter argument. Bravo
its funny how this is 5 years ago and its even worse now
And look at the Lindsay Shepherd affair in Canada!
GigaByte what the ability to not have freedom of speech. I now just who to blame for that my furry friend. They go by the name antifa.
It won't sound as catchy but antifa doesn't deserve the 'anti' in their name.
Mrsalty101 what their new name is just going to be fa. That is going to be the funniest name ever to hear at a protest.
There is no need for obscenities in free speech look at history the majority of protests successful protests occurred without any profanity.
That name, though. If I had her name I would quote myself all the time.
"It's the internet, dude. Get over yourself" - Morgan Freeman
"I'm going to vote for Donald Trump" - Morgan Freeman
I know...a smart morgan freeman.....the actor thinks iran deal is going to keep our kids safe...plays a good God though...
Morgan Freeman (Actor) is smart, though, farley. He's stated multiple times that the way to get rid of "race" problems is to simply stop talking about them. To stop calling people "Black people" or "White people", and just call them people.
Even the smartest man alive has blind spots and biases.
Logi Rogi
Until that dire day, when you get a phone call from the Man himself.
FAA Inspector I'll pray for you whether you like it or not.
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." - Voltaire
Voltaire didn't say this. literally he never said this. the original quote is from a neo nazi eugenic proponent who was angry that people didn't wanna hear his dumb shit
regardless of who said it, it isnt wrong. :2
Zinger who's Voltaire?
Yes CRITICIZE, not insult...
Theres no meaningful difference. Critique is viewed as an insult to the easily offended, therefore both critique and insult must be defended in equal parts. :2
To advocate for selective censorship dictated by the sensibilities of the time is to potentially silence the truth. :2
That professor committed vandalism. He should be arrested and sentenced to 15 years in prison. The police officer should be arrested for corruption and abuse of authority. The college administration should be sued into bankruptcy.
I agree with the charges, but vandalism is like 30 days in jail. More importantly, the government should sanction the school for censoring students.
fairly certain that the "police" in this situation are the private campus security guards, and not the city police force. was the same issue with the Evergreen campus debacle.
They should have blocked the professors path to keep him away from the sign. If he tried to get through them while holding a boxcutter he'd be guilty of assaulting students with a deadly weapon. That would have really taught him a lesson.
That professor should be fired.
Nexus Clarum then we are no different
Nexus Clarum Man you are dumb
Blodørn I am retarded, I don't understand in anything about the world, I'm everything you want me too be just for you to feel ok on this globe.
Nexus Clarum indeed he should be but there's something protecting him. The Supreme Court in multiple cases has deemed it legal for schools to limit free speech and while the way said professor went about using that to his advantage is bullshit there is not much one can do. All in all though it's total fucking BS that someone's allowed to limit a right because of the court treating students like children
Completely agree. Every single subject, at it's core, revolves around free speech.
I bet if you said f Trump it would have stayed.
Fuck Trump Fuck Obama Fuck em all!
LJ Little J that's not even a question. It'd be a celebration
You'd let him grab you by the....wait, whattaya got?
LJ Little J the prof would’ve written it
LJ Little J
Big facts!
If it said f trump there would have been no issue
Toasty Time trump wasnt around....it aint always about Trump (the guy who thinks ppl should be fired for kneeling which is considered a sign of respect, in front of the flag)
IzPopTime Kneeling in front of the American flag isn't a sign of respect moron and it is being done as sign of disrespect. I don't pay all that money to watch spoiled athletes cry about being "oppressed". It is pathetic. I am not allowed to go to my job and protest and these guys shouldn't be either. That is the reason the NFL lost so much money this season. People agree with me a lot more than they do your ridiculous take on it.
most shitty unheard of media outlets try to ride trump to gain attention and profit, sensationalism my friend and he is right you can say fuck trump a lot more loosely instead of fuck Obama ( peaking of when he was still president)
IzPopTime correct but that is NOT the intended purpose of the kneeling.
Yes it is, it's their way of disrespecting the constitution, their (and your BS) about it not being disrespectful is a lie.
Fire the cop fire the professor PROBLEM SOLVED
"Fire the cop, fire the professor " loose half your funding, fiat money, puppet indoctrination center shuts down, get on the internet and open a book store to fund a library.
The police officer most likely didn't have much of a choice
You shouldn't have taken it down. Instead, cover up the Obama part with "CENSORED BY A PROFESSOR AT SAM HOUSTON STATE." No name, just a factual statement. I'd love to see where he would've gone from there.
+G. Johnson I like it. +1
+G. Johnson
that would be in compliance and still be a fuck you without actually saying the words. nice ;p
+AwoudeX THought the same. This free-speech-wall was censored by someone.
+G. Johnson Sounds doable in hindsight. Not sure there is any reason not to put his name, though... :)
+chenrobbins To make it clear who the prick was that wanted to censor speech.
America, where the people are scared of words.
K3ITH Price its like that all over the world, in Canada you can criticize Islam
*Humanless God*
That's _can't_ criticize Islam.
Our Prime Minister believes truth is hate speech.
(No, I'm not kidding.)
Richard Short I ment can’t
Keith not all of us are scared of words just the worst of us
Europe is worse. They are censoring the internet and throwing people in jail for nothing more, than criticizing government policies.
The first time I went to college I had a similar thing happen. The difference is I had the balls to force their hand and made them try to arrest and charge me. It backfired on them big time. The college tried to have me expelled, the police brought me to the station and tried to intimidate me but when they both realized I was in it for the long haul the harasment ended quickly.
+TheEagle12901 Hell yes. More people should do this and tell their story so people don't get the wrong and idea to cower in a corner.
it is so refreshing to see at least some of this generation still believes in free speech
Ty Guy To an extent...
They still tore down the wall under the threat of a misdemeanor.
The youth still cave too easily.
They need to shed their cowardice.
Legal action for free speech? Is this America anymore?
The Left can tolerate all forms of diversity except diversity of opinion. You MUST agree with the Left.
I'm a liberal and I think what that professor did was disgusting.
+needles1987 Maybe you're a conservative and/or Libertarian and don't know it.
+Snowcrest Nope. I'm very much a liberal.
#notallliberals
There is a huge difference between "Liberal" and "Leftist". The dictionary definition of liberal is tolerant, free, etc. What you're seeing here is Leftism. Remember the word: Leftism. Virtually all colleges are controlled by Leftists (when they were free they were controlled by liberals). The Democratic Party has been taken over by the Left and the leaders are indistinguishable: Obama, Hillary, Reid, Feinstein, Bernie, etc. They are interchangeable. Example of a liberal: John Kennedy (read his inaugural speech - "Ask not what your country can do for you ..."). Today's Democrat would choke on those words. The Left does not tolerate free speech. The Left is inherently tyrannical. Look at "Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alinsky for the best explanation of Leftism. Always attack the person, not ideas. What's happening today is best explained by the book, "The Closing of the American Mind".
Are you sure you're a liberal *cuz you don't sound like a liberal.*
Great to see a young person that still believes in the rights and freedoms that make america great. I am Canadian btw
*Jeff Ferguson*
I agree and I am also Canadian.
This is my ideal girl. U go Morgan Freeman!
tha1ne she is certainly intelligent and on the right side in every way. what I like the best is that all student groups agreed that they could post whatever they wanted on this wall. That is truly free speech.
1ForAllandAllForAll No, assuming the professors act was accurately reported (which I believe it was), it is he who acted like a child. Or, to use a more accurate term for an adult: fascist.
Vulgarity, as in, swearing, has its place and is in no way less intellectual when used properly. Swear words are words just as much as other words are words. Sounds simple, right?
I understand your point, but your point is besides the point. The point is a professor chose to deliberately vandalize a specific portion of a wall because he likely disagreed with it. This is antithetical to the founding principles of this country, let alone the supposed mission statement of every university out there.
*Most of all*, I think you're ignoring that fact that the visceral nature of the "Fuck" in the "Fuck Obama" writing is what caused this professor to show his true colors. Not only does he have an antipathy toward those who disagree with him, but such language makes him take fascist action toward it.
In this respect, the use of "vulgarity" served a fine purpose: exposing a person who does not believe in real freedom of expression.
I never thought I would be attracted to Morgan Freeman
They should have refused to take it down and then sued the University when they pressed charges. fucking rediculous
It's incredible how much worse this has gotten in the five years since this video was posted.
And … five more years and worse yet
So, we have a POLICE OFFICER saying you can't practice the First Amendment because it hurt someone's feelings. Grow up! You know what hurts my feelings!? You! And sinece you hurt my feelings you can't say anything to anyone or you might offend them like you did me.
Hehe but you know what they'll say, your feelings don't matter because (insert dumb reason here) but mainly go to reason is white, male, not a Liberal.
Well, it's probably more accurate to say we have a police officer saying you can't practice the first amendment because the police are overly used to whomever runs a piece of land getting control over it and not thinking too much about it.
Grace the Great I was personally threatened with jail time just last weekend for nothing but complying with orders and speaking out loud. Not even disrespect or yelling, just talking. fuck cops these days
Shaggy Rogers Sounds horrible!! What, EXACTLY, were you saying, and Where, EXACTLY, we're you whilst you were saying it?
can i cut out all the Fs i´ve ever gotten too? they really offend me
The school can not protect students from You Tube. Cable TV. Movies. Comics. Anime. Sports fan talk. Talk Radio. AND any other media/entertainment out there. The liberal SJW, PC crowds are the problem. They define what is hate. They define what is offensive.
Was it offensive when Sarah Palin and her family were humiliated years ago? Liberals ate it up. When Rush Limbaugh nearly lost his hearing they laugh and celebrated his career is over. When Vice President Dick Cheney had anther heart attack they laugh. Joked about it.
**The "right" thank god understands and still cherish freedoms. Even when liberals are offensive.
Noam Chomsky Quote. “If you believe in freedom of speech, you believe in freedom of speech for views you don't like. ... If you're in favor of freedom of speech, that means you're in favor of freedom of speech precisely for views you despise.”
Always stand of for your first amendment. Passive Compliance allows these bullies to get away with violating Rights of the American Public. Always stand up for Free Speech. or one day we won't have it anymore.
Also Chomsky: people should be coerced to inject an experimental drug or not be allowed to participate in society.
A whole misdemeanor and you took it down. Glad u didn't head the civil rights movement.
+zdwade Excellent point! Spot on. Thank you.
+zdwade Great comparison.
Get this person some more likes!
+Terry Bear I'd hate to see what else you think is "spot on".
+zdwade It is always easy to say someone else should make sacrifices. Me, I wouldn't have taken it down, if only because they were probably bluffing... but I don't expect them to throw away their academic careers and time just to make the point in the way I would.
It's interesting to me how talking about murdering Trump is okay but saying you don't like Obama is wrong.
Wishing to murder the president is a crime. Did she get arrested or tried for that? People criticising you is always going to happen no matter what you do, but when you commit a crime and don't get punished, or don't commit a crime (free speech) and do get punished, it sends the wrong message.
Nicholas Spruitenburg wishing to murder someone isn't illegal, planning it out would make it illegal but just wishing you could do it isnt
This.
aww..you guys triggered Urrcreavesh.
rite?
If someone had written “F-Trump”, there would’ve been ZERO backlash from “Professor Von Woke”
all it takes is one snowflake to cause an avalanche
I would rather have been arrested.
her eyes make me sleepy
She has that do it to me again look going on
same
baked
She has the weirdest eyes ever. If she were to speak to me, I'd think, she would fall asleep. XD haha
While I disagree with the profanity, I support everyone's right to free speech. Good work you guys.
Not taking that misdemeanor was the worst financial mistake of your life!
their first mistake was taking the wall down.
Why do we not know the professor's and the police officer's names?
2:00 look at the left part of the screen.
No idea if that's actually him. Just going off of context.
Find out their names, phone numbers, and addresses....Publish them...
Glad I graduated from college when I did. I wouldn't be able to handle myself around these liberals of today. Somebody would get hurt and I'm sure I'd be kicked out of school.
I'd say the opposite. I went to college in 2004 and got a nonsense degree so 13 years later I'm back in school at the young age of 31. Watching young people argue is cute, it's all emotion and passion. We see the extreme on RUclips every day but 90% aren't like that. However I visited my brother persueing a masters at Scad (savanna college of art and design) and that's where I ran into the extreme. They even took the day off after the election due to emotional trauma (brother said he saw professors literally crying in the halls). I derailed any political talk with them by saying all the poc I knew voted for Trump, which was true. Most of these people had never had a non white friend in their lives so telling them what real people of color thought blew their mind and narrative.
Even the obama phone woman came out for trump.... saw her turn-around video after seeing the "obama vs trump" meme showing her. "she got a $20 cell phone, he (a black man in a business suit) got a $2000 tax reduction"
Wow! Can you believe youtube steered me toward this? RUclips, like Google, seems to me to be the last place you are going to be steered toward anything Constitutional, and more particularly things pro-1st Amendment or pro-2nd Amendment... I've been slapped down by youtube without explanation (they took away my long video ability for no reason and no explanation) because, almost certainly, that I am a conservative. Has this happened to anyone else?... no explanation, just downgrade an account?
College kids FOR free speech? I'm extremely proud of this group. This young lady GETS IT and gets it exactly right, that is, free speech isn't free speech if we're not allowed to speak freely. Can I say GOD BLESS you guys? I think so.... oh yeah, I can, that's in the same Amendment.... ;-)
+mollesjohn I think you may have had your upload length reduced and some of your videos taken down due to automatic copyright complaints. There's a draconian system of detecting copyright infringement, and to prevent exposing themselves to liability they set the bar very low for automatic removal.
This doesn't mean you've infringed on any copyright, the automatic system can't tell whether you have, it just tries to make a guess. Though I can't blame you for suspecting it's because of your conservatism, you guys are being very, very unfairly treated these days.
If you're interested in restoring your account/videos, there are videos on RUclips describing the process. Just be aware that going through the process may expose you to liability if the original copyright claim was valid.
Best of luck from Canada, we admire your great republic : )
+Joshua Brooks No... when I had my length reduced, it just happened, I had no notices or warnings at all from anyone anywhere... they just did it. It was much later that I got one of those messages and other things were inhibited, like unlisted and private youtube videos would no longer be allowed. I'm saying that they increased my original length time without any explanation and reduced it later without any explanation. They do it just because they can, and I'm sure it's in the fine print that they may do things to your account without any explanation whatsoever, I have just never read the fine print, but I'm sure it's there.
mollesjohn They still tore the wall down under the threat of a misdemeanor.
The youth need to shed their cowardice and learn to not to give in and keep standing up for what they believe in.
" To learn who rules you, find out who you cannot criticise. " - Voltaie
Voltaire never said that. My mistake. It was a Neo Nazi group that came up with that quote about the Jews.
If the cop walked up to me and told me to take it down I would have said "Arrest me! I want to be a millionaire." It would be a slam dunk lawsuit.
Oh yeah, I forgot the 3 pages of fine print to the first amendment, she really should have read all that first.
Last I checked the constitution wasn't a EULA.
Libertarian, that's what's up girl! Glad to see more Libertarians coming together!
Over 8 years later and it continues to get worse. This is nothing compared to what we see now.
Well, that isn't how the left operates. They have been doing this for more than 100 years and they don't stop. Being vigilant is a very important part of success.
This gives me hope for the future, that there are young people out there that actually understand and value free speech.
Damn Morgan Freeman is a great actor and very attractive too!
and...? love it, but...... mmmm?
OOOOOH. TOOK ME A SEC.
degree in philosophy= college as an expensive day care
pmlking, unless you're doing a dual degree in Teaching with Philosophy or Journalism with Philosophy or English with Philosophy, then the degree holds some value.
A very niche employment option, but it still holds some value. That said, I suppose she'll enter the media industry in the future or become a worker in a NFPO, if she's solely studying Philosophy that is.
I have a MA in philosophy along with a JD and I work in the field of international relations and human rights law.
Just because you think it's useless doesn't mean it is useless.
If you don't want people to write whatever they want, maybe don't call it a free speech wall. Call it a 'if I don't like what you write I will censor it wall.' It's not as catchy but at least you wouldn't be a liar.
+Papa Wheely The people who called it a free speech wall are not the people who censored it. Did you not watch the video?
It's the fact that the professor had to authority to do what he did and include police in the matter that made the school or whichever faculty members sponsored it liars.
You should have denied further action concerning your wall. Let them falsely arrest you or have to call their bluff.
Even if they would have been charged for misdemeanor, they could have appealed to it and ultimately won the case. The government is only allowed to limit and punish for speech that has the likelyhood and intent to incite violence, and quite frankly, "fuck obama" would not fall within this definition.
Even if the policy on free speech within this campus is of such regressive nature, I don't think such limitations to free speech (U.S constitution) can be trumped by mere "house rules".
Getting a criminal conviction is not the same as getting arrested :)
^^ Exactly! Show me someone in the US criminally convicted for saying "fuck". He doesn't exist! You'd be hard pressed to find someone _arrested_ *just* for saying fuck. I suppose obscene language might be listed as part of a larger "public indecency" arrest, but it would never be the sole reason. Not even if you screamed it in the middle of a church or kid's playground. Greg seems to have a very distorted view of how the Miller Test is used.
***** I will concede that my first comment might have been too hyperbolic, but you're not making any sense. First of all you already made my point by saying their are no specific laws on the books about specific curse words. Then you try to claim most have said it falls under disorderly conduct. This isn't true though. The only time profane language is upheld as disorderly conduct is when someone is goading another person in a clear effort to _incite violence_. This kind of action is deemed "fighting words". This poster was not likely to incite violence. Simple public displays are exempt from this law. For instance, wearing a "Fuck the Draft" jacket to court was ruled legal by a high court in '71 because it was not a direct threat of violence. No reasonable person would take these types of slogans as encouragement to fight. (Also fight who in this case? Obama? He wasn't there.) Nearly every other instance of profanity has been upheld as free speech. There's a difference between being rude and breaking the law. As the original comment stated, it's one thing for campus police to react against curses that lack the threat of violence, as your school or employer can have stricter behavioral standards. But it's another matter for the local police to do so. I do think the students were right to obey the officer, but it's unlikely any arrest would have held up in court. In fact, the schools policies _were_ all overturned in court! So really why are we arguing?
Getting falsely arrested is still a pain in the ass; the appeals process is not designed to work around your busy school and work schedule. The average person does not have the time and money to fight, so they plead no contest and move on with their lives. That's why a civil rights activist who's not willing to be arrested is not worth their salt. College kids these days are so anxious to avoid anything that might blemish their precious personal records, that even the activists will stop their protesting when asked to by the police. Just with the threat of being falsely arrested hanging over their heads. It's a damn shame.
This was a sign of things to come.
Having a PhD and being a professor is like getting a 70 on your IQ test. They are mostly just hacks who memorized some stuff from a book and a lecture and then regurgitated it back to some other hack professor and then were handed a paper proclaiming them as 'intellectuals".
bollocks, there are certain disciplines where this might be true, but generally professor really know their shit about their subject. Some are better than oothers, of course, but it's exremely rare to find a really dumb one, and you will NEVER find one with a very low IQ.
There is a difference between "knowing your shit" and just repeating back what you memorized from a book. True intellectuals are as rare as hen's teeth. With a little historical research you will find that mainstream academia always condemns and attacks the guy with a new theory, until it finally becomes accepted, then they jump on the bandwagon and wait to condemn the next new idea.
Agreed, a degree or post graduate degree in a science is an accomplishment which has sadly been diluted by the proliferation of degrees in non-subjects like most of the social studies.
You are welcome to guess that, you may find that other notables had some success with less education- Henry Ford, Andrew Carnegie, John D. Rockefeller, Harvey Firestone etc. etc., but they did provide a lot of jobs for the college boys.
Don't forget about affirmative action, race adjusted college admission scores. It's a joke.
I like the free speech wall; great idea. However, why did you give up your right so easily? You rolled right over for the oppressive tyrants.
I Voted for Obama. And I still find the Censorship of the Free Speech Wall BS.
Long Live Free Speech.
+willku9000 Me too. It is a bit personally offensive but it's absolutely his right to say it and to censor a free speech wall is just ridiculous. It's outrageous. The professor should be ashamed and the police should be ashamed. I know hindsight is 20/20 but had it been me, I'd have taken the misdemeanor and fought it in court.
You should be embarrassed to admit you voted for ..
Zulu For who? Did you vote for McCain Palin? Hey, maybe the guy has done a few things that should be criticized, sure but it could've been worse. I couldn't imagine if that old man kicked the bucket and Palin became president. She's about as qualified as a bag of hammers and less useful.
+The Shoe Shine Apprentice Well, it doesn't matter who you vote for these days. The general act of voting is embarrassing. I mean look at these candidates. I feel so dirty during democratic debates that I normally have to take a shower halfway through - a shower in bleach. My doctor has ordered me to remove all sharp objects from my vicinity prior to watching republican debates. I was lucky last time, I only lost one eye and part of my right ear.
The professor way over-stepped his authority and good sense.
What were you thinking?! Id take that misdemeanor with a grin. Thatd be an awesome addition during a job interview which is the point of college.
😂😂😂 pause 4:26 far left it a sign says fcuk boxcutters lolol
brent white box cutters did 9/11. Which is true maybe we should ban them?
Well, one free speech the prof could not ban would be to place an ad in the college newspaper recommending NO STUDENT take any of that prof's classes.
i love this girl
sam houston university might as well print their diplomas on toilet paper so their graduates get at least some benefit.
Part of me wishes they'd taken the misdemeanor to court and brought charges of vandalism against the professor.
Morgan which way we lookin sweetheart?
Straight into my heart.
They should f-ed up that professor when he started tearing through their wall with a box cutter. If you wanna be physical, lets be physical.
And he can't press charges if he can't speak, or even knows who did what. Just saying.
That boxcutter is a dangerous weapon! Why did he have it in the first place!? Lol.
Threatened with a misdemeanor? What misdemeanor could they possibly charge you with?
In today's society this isn't censoring... Even if this didn't go viral on RUclips everybody who is socially connected at the event and their family and friends that they tweet to would have found out through a facebook or twitter post that the professor did this. The professors aren't morons, they know it will go viral that they did this. This isn't censoring, it's making a public statement the smart way. That's all anyone cares about, getting their personal zeitgeist heard by everyone and making a social impact
a squirrel Unfortunately, they made NO impact.
This is the kind of stuff that can miraculously bring hope to the future of our country and humanity as a whole. I knew there were some humans left in this world.
"There is freedom of speech, but I cannot guarantee freedom after speech" Idi Amin
@4:25...LOL..."FCUK Boxcutters"
I miss college, nothing but free time to do shit like this...and get drunk at 9 o'clock in the morning Geaux Cajuns!!!
"Free speech is legal until it offends someone."
This is the UK, Canada, Europe, and pretty much the whole world.
Constitutionally enshrined freedom of expression is such a gift. Cherish it and fight to keep it.
"My name is Gordon Freeman, not to be confused with the physicist."
Professor should have been arrested on the spot for destruction of private property.
Then, he should have been fired.
That is how the country is supposed to work: break the law - get punished for it.
Shouldve had everyone take the misdemeanor charge then started a class action lawsuit against the school/police department.
For the record Joe E. Kirk (professor) found it offensive. So basically he ruined any learning experience the students were having about free speech.
I am a politically conservative college professor, and I must say that I am shocked by the behavior of the professor, the police, and the college administration. If we only allow speech we agree with, then there is no need for the 1st Amendment. The very point of the 1st Amendment is to protect speech (and the speaker) we disagree with from actions by the government.During the Vietnam conflict, a reporter asked John Wayne what he thought about Jane Fonda's virulent criticism of everything and everyone involved on the US side of the conflict. His reply is noteworthy: "I disagree with everything she says, but I will fight and die to protect her right to say it."
"Face criminal charges" i think her face is definitely a criminal charge
So a professor threatened a student with a knife.
This is wrong. Educational centers are places where ideas are proposed, debated, verified and so on. Censorship is the worst enemy of that.
How could that cop possibly hit them with a misdemeanor for a free speech wall *they* paid for?
He should be arrested for having a weapon on campus.
"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
Evelyn Beatrice Hall
That police officer should be fired and lose his pension. A law officer should know better than to engage in censorship.
They should have told the police that telling them to take it down was offensive, so he has 2 choices
1.stop
2.arrest himself, because his ideas offend!
I would have said "Okay, we'll organize and file a class-action lawsuit against the college for violation our constitutional right to free speech."
Why not file a civil lawsuit claiming your civil rights have been violated? Seems like a no brainer.
Hurrah ! - take the professor to court for criminal damage ....
Like an old saying goes.
Sticks, & Stones may beeank my bones.
But Words will never harm me!!!
If this was a campus cop I would have called a real cop. Then a lawyer to slap an injunction on the overlords telling you what free speech is.
And this was almost five years ago; imagine how much worse it is now.
Criminal charges? Bring it on....
good for you! that's so nice to hear that we have open minds in school! college is a place to be challenged, not censored.
I’d like to congratulate the parents of the young lady for doing a great job! We need people like her.
I would have told the cops to take me to jail. Would be one hell of a court case.
They should have taken the misdemeanor and crushed them in court.
I would have taken the misdemeanor. That would not hold up in court.
There is NO such thing as a Constitutional right NOT to be offended.
God damn it. We've gotten to the point where people truly believe that free speech doesn't cover "offensive" speech.
"Don't be afraid to fight for free speech. That's why when someone tried to illegally silence me I immediately backed down and took down the wall".
I really wish they had refused the officer and taken the misdemeanor to court - that would have been a heroic response.
You can bet the officer would have lived to regret his decision, were that to happen. No way did he have the authority to "take down this wall" based on a professor's complaint.
That professor committed Criminal Mischief