Ukraine on borrowed time? Zelensky in Europe amid far-right surge • FRANCE 24 English
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- Let's start with the good news for Ukraine. Long-range weapons from the West have finally arrived, with more on the way, and the Russian offensive of the past month seems to be stalling. Now for the not-so-good news. As Volodymyr Zelensky lobbies a repair and reconstruction conference in Berlin, his country might be on borrowed time.
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I Am so sick of western media is using far right term now!!
Why call your program The Debate if you have a panel of "experts" saying the same things?
my sentiments exactly
Pure propaganda.
LNG gas and electricity prices are up because the Nordstream pipeline was blown. Who benefited from that? The USA and Qatar now sells LNG at inflated prices. Ukraine will lose the war of territory while the US has walked away with the economic prize. And it's only just starting. American companies will profit from rebuilding Ukraine and taking its resources.
Will not happen the world is tired off America
Thanks said the same in a comment myself. Not quit like you but yes. Thanks! Peace ✌
A bunch of delusional people in this panel...
Russian offensive stalling on western media's 😂 western technology is superior on western media's 🤪
Why doesn't this channel invite people with more than one opinion? It's always like listening to 5 people with one opinion. BORING!
One interesting point most people are not mentioning is the fate of this special kind of humans who decide to work as mercenaries. For decades they were going to countries like Kongo,Angola,Afghanistan, Syria, Libya and. so on destroying what could be destroyed killing poor people with actually zero risk.Now the Russians are teaching them fear.Lets hope at the end of this tragedy world will be cleaned from this .
Hahaha...ask any Britain about privatization, a complete and absolute disarster.
They never learn.
Mrs. Thatcher was cited as a model for Ukraine. Britain de-industrialised and cannot produce anything as a result. Ukrainians are desperate and they suggest anyone in the west as a model to prove Ukrainians are Europeans.
French economy is doing worse than UK
@@Joekd6.1 They lost their uranium robbery.
Socialism/fascism always ends badly. The state never runs anything well... when some business fail, a more competent owner takes over or it doesn't deserve to exist. But the state just keep raising taxes, no matter what they do.
Isn't there supposed to be debate on a debate panel?
please elect mr orban president of nato...he is good friends with both germany and russia...with him peace is assured... forever...
France... be very careful what you do... you are close to Russia
Please see my comment above yours a bit. It is correct. It is!
Germany should vote zlensky as their president since most of theiir taxes is going to him…??
Haha! Does make sense!
Europe's end is signalling
And Europe is slow economy due to Ukraine.
Ukraine on borrowed time? You are coming out of the delusions you had been spreading about Ukrainian victory.
Anyone who is not a warmonger is far right, by DW standard.
In what world is defending your country or defending another country "warmongering"? If someone invades your home and kills your family do you jump in front of the police to defend the attacker?
And if you aren't Ukraine's friend.
@@sidnas92In this case, you stole the home after the home owner disagreed with your alignment. Now, the bigger brother wants to remove your occupation by force.
Yup, and they delete your comments if they don't like it
The traditional left do not support Zelensky, unfortunately we have been replaced with Authoritarian Liberals pretending to be left. The traditional Left was de platformed a long time ago.
Zelensky‘s departure from Ukraine is the safest choice
Learn to host people with diverse views
“Borrowed time”
Clever
Its fact.
Maybe he got a good interest rate.
Every time Putin strikes Ukraine, Zelensky's Begging Bowl expands by 1 inch.
🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
No that's Putin's Bhole😯
Where is Z's hat
Its being passed around the room
A ruble spent on the special military operation is a ruble not spent on Russia school and hospital. Of course, Russia can just go home and stop the special military operation.
Fulk Zelensky. Stop the war
More money for Zelenskyy pocket 😀😀😀
It’s fascinating to watch these people massage their ego’s they understandably need to given their circumstances😅! I hope the Ukrainians wake up to their “use” sooner rather than later otherwise there’ll be nothing left of their country by the time the guns go silent!
Ukrainians believe they are useful because they are saving western values.
Zelensky knows that as the former president of Ukraine he can borrow as much as he wants and will not have to pay it back.
He won’t be a former president for along time. He’ll ride a wave of popularity
A loan from the US does not mean a country has to pay it back . this "loan" promise was just to get it thru congress
It is planned to be paid by via the natural resources taken. Get it?
Guest cant speak english. unprofessional production.
Peace yes, war no.
From America, I'd rather they talk with Russia about keeping the rubble they made then my money go to Ukraine. It's insane to think Russia will attack nato too. They are barely handling Ukraine.
It's not insane, Russia is in Ukraine because the US declined an ultimatum about NATO members like Romania, Estonia, Poland, basically the members who joined after 1991
The Chinese are the dark horses
Your rubble is home to around 7 million people.
You're absolutely right. Russia is not, and never was any danger to Europe. Russia is five times bigger,
than ALL the European countries put together, and is sitting in huge natural resources, including oil, gas,
uranium, coal etc....
Would a country in such position, have ANY reason to invade another country??
The West keeps saying that Russia is a threat to Europe's security, is not only completely illogical,
but ridiculous and stupid!
They just keep saying that nonsense, as a cover for their own stupidity, and how badly they miscalculated Russia's
military industry capacity, and are still wasting huge amount of money for no gains at all, and the war which is already lost.
If Russia takes Ukraine it will be harder to beat back . Lots of resources in Ukraine
Russia has a 4-1 population advantage. A 3-1 artillery advantage. A 7-1 drone advantage. So of course it is on borrowed time in the current war of attrition.
"3-1 Artillery advantage" --- try 9-1..
4 to 1 ? 20 million refugees fled Ukraine why is everyone thinking its still 2020
They are a little behind, however, in the toilet, washer, and microwave advantage. Apparently they haven't stolen enough of these items to improve the ratios enough.
Ukraine has way better western weapons. Ukraine has more trained and more motivated soldiers, defending is easier. Russia will not win as long as west keeps helping them.
Sending untrained troops doesn't work. Our infantry gets 2 years training.
Maybe the Time Window for negations is closing soon *
Ukraine forced to sell they asset to support war effort. All this raising question where millions and Billions gone .One day of war in 2022 for Ukraine cost 100 million , now this price is 3 time bigger.
@frankaczmarek3042 don't be surprised .Money disappeared in Ukraine so fast it looks like Ukraine like all South and West America combined . Russia alone from its 45 billion military budged fighting everything west throwing at them.
Negotiate now or copitulate later !
Here for my daily dose of lies and delusions.
Especially from NATO supporters.
See the comment below.
This show is filled w clueless people. Russia moved to Kharkiv not to capture it but to spread already scarce boots on the ground elsewhere. Russia progressing westward.
How about you invate some of those "far right" politician to your studio and let them speak for them selfes, and let people decide weather to give them vote or not
On every side the solution is to double-down and not listen to anybody else.
No money in peace.
Ukraine is so screwed.
Send the green dictator to the frontlines!
Geert Wilders, dutch far right, is for continuing support for Ukraine, Gorgia Meloni (Italian far right) also, as does the Polish populists. One of the few european far right parties against support for Ukraine is the French RN one but they are also against anything that looks remotedly anglo-saxon, they are a special case.
Now a simple question - The Title Zelenesky on borrowed time.
The question is - From whom Zelenesky borrowed the time ?
Russian President. Putin repeatedly asking an election in Ukraine to legalize Zeleneskys tenure in Ukraine but Zelenesky ignoring the call.
Question also comes that will any decision taken by Zelenesky now have legality as he has no mandate from citizens of Ukraine ?
Good thing the guest stopped using Twitter! That’ll defeat Putin for sure 💪🏻😎
how is ukraine going to repay its commitments? doesnt seem like the best place to invest ya know?
Repay? You mean willingly plundered!
So much for the gradualist approach to Ukranian support. The far right is on the rise everywhere. The sheer incompetence and complacency.
It looks like North Korea
Background of Mustafa Nayeem afghan Pasthun and his father was a graduated from Moscow. His mother is Ukrainians and his father was in charge of construction of war toned Afghanistan. Mustafa is an economist and journalist and his brother wounded in Ukrainian war and lost an eye.
Tired of this Zelenski guy
Peace summit or Piece summit? 😮, Ukraine already lost 1/5 of land since Feb'22, which could have been 100% avoided before Feb'22 by keeping Ukraine neutral.
Now, all we can do is cook a peace summit for piece sliced territory of Ukraine 😮😢
Facts
A summit to tell the victor 'we are not talking to you'.
100% avoided if Ukraine was in NATO.
Do you mean remaining "neutral" like Belarus?
@@Agora1981 It can be neutral like Austria - in the EU but not NATO. Austria's neutrality was demanded by Stalin. Austria benefited by it. Putin and many Russian officials say they have no objection to Ukraine joining the EU, as that is only an economic alliance, but Russia will not allow US bases in Ukraine. Russia has indicated to the US that it is ready to fight a nuclear war to stop US bases in Ukraine. The US also now understands Russia is not bluffing. Get it ?
Zelensky's term as president has expired. Authority reverts to Ukraine parliament. What the heck is Zellensky doing running about representing Uktpraine in any way.
That is no news!
free money is ended
This rhetoric of Biden that "we will support Ukraine as long as it takes" is sheer idiocy.. how long will he be in the white house? At most 8 yrs. what of putin? can be lifetime. biden should have helped Ukraine win the war before the November elections since he is not even sure he would win the November elections.
He is gone. He cannot win without cheating 8n some way or another. Bank on it!
most likely genocide Joe wont remember his own name before November election 😄😄😄
Switzerland gendering is good opportunity to replace Zelensky
Great facilitation, thanks
Begging, Begging, Begging. It seems like zelensky has no shame at all. A country led by begger is no hope for its people. 😮😮😮
What a take comrade
Cragg spews verbal diarrhea daily.
Cragg is completely unprofessional expressing his personal dislikes of Trump and Musk.
He has a bad case of TDS.
F24 is a state run channel, he is paid to tow the line
technology is important but without the industrial support to back it up and the full range of equipment to work with it then its not going to produce dramatic results. especially without the training to use it and when its coming from 50 different countries.
Bad report
Surprised Russia did not take out the power at the start. It was too soft.
Agree. They are reasonable in this say, as compared to the USA!
Vital question .Are J.Lennon glasses back in fashion??
A group of losers 😂😂
"When France sneezes, the rest of Europe catches cold." ~Metternich
That’s history, now it’s more like: if a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound?
That’s history, now it’s more like: if a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound?
That’s history, now it’s more like: if a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound?
The far rational parties are voted for by the people. Whilst we should not accuse all the extremist hard left parties of being guilty of following the AIPAC and Washington masters, the general suspicion of the extremist radical left is justified .
Don't forget garmny
Yeahs , anyway Ukraine was the Space Programme headquarter of ex Soviet union and there must be interests regarding that point.
Both Ukraine, Russia, U.S, NATO must try To Have Peace Talks End This War have Ceasefires or Limited Ceasefires
if u have a power shortage, stop feeding power to nightclubs
"Western technology is superior." LOL
Supporting Moscow is weird by so-called extreme or right-wing thugs. I lived in the soviet union in the late 70s and 80s for 13 years as a student in st. Petersburg, Russia. I studied there because it is free and with a scholarship from socialist Bangladeshi govt. we had less pressure from the soviet authorities and we didn't follow what they said. I always told them even in Bangladesh we are free to speak, free to travel, and not many personal laws for the general population. even in the 80s, I drove a Moped with a Fake license. My elder friend was one of the license issuers in the capital and told me that if any Police sergeant stopped me, say my name. they will not do anything to you. I was there only for 7 months, so he suggested that I not need to get a license to attend practical classes. During the soviet time I visited England, Germany, Italy, and several other countries and felt so free than the soviet union, where I had Temporary residency
Its Impossible to move gear of worth this amount on to the Ground to the frontline without BOOTS ON THE GROUND . It will be like antelope Season for the Crocodiles. I mean it will be great Misappropriation If they provide gear and not train or actually do it. Both sides have strength and weaknesses
Zelensky can take any loans, since they do not need to be repaid if he signs documents with an inactive president.
Christian democracy is universal ☝️👌💗
Dirty news. French ha!
It’s great news that Poland is showing leadership in Europe by turning moderate. Always ahead of the peloton
All i can see is Just clones
We have everything finished stop ☝️🐔🕊️
Tetyana hesitates too much. Not an appropriate guest.
😨😨😨
For communist, center look like a far right 😂😅 … Channel 24, MSNBC , CNN, BBC should merge and create Soviet era “Pravda news “
Where are all those bots saying "russian winning" russians been kicked out of kharkiv twice ..shovels are broken😂
Have you seen the videos of vovchansk and liptsy?
No bots. Kharkiv, will fall. It's a matter of time.
You are so funny! To yourself that is.
😂
West and the spoiled brat already declared victory
Wishful thinking. There are so funny!
There is no reason for defense. That’s a created fear of not wise politicians.
What in the fuuuu
they really mean military spending but if they stated it was for attacking another country then People would object. It is why NAto calls itself a defensive alliance. yet it has never defended anyone.
A lot of people are saying the same as Elon Musk.
Hes racist...
Lots of people also drink water. The richest person in the world also drinks water.
Russia, Ukraine must Deescalate If
Best news channel in France. Don’t worry about the haters in the below comments.
For those who continue to complain about low wages remember you are better off than many people around the world in 3rd Countries and Russia and China, the reason is Democracy, Freedom and Trade, if you want to vote in people who would give you communism because they have no clue about running a Government then see how much wage you would get.
I see Prisoners(russian soldier Pow) interviewed on the Zolkin RUclips and most of the Russian soldiers are from the prisons and most signed to join falsely thinking that they will not fight in the front and professionals will fight in the front. But professionals are mostly dead in the wars, now they are being newly trained alcoholics or poor who joined for money having no jobs before joining the army
Liers
Ukraine is brave fighting a much bigger opponent. Russia still has to complain about things being unfair
Far left propaganda news source?
They are not complaining of unfairness. They are saying well, we will have to get more aggressive. Get with the program.
I am neutral on the topic but as I see, AfD is not far-right.
Gibbons explains fascism well.
If the Russians could add 2 and 2, they might finally realise that they are the far right.
2+3= 4. Far left lunacy.
“Melloni is far right but is very passionate about Ukraine”. Why? Why would a far right politician be passionate about Ukraine? The cognitive dissonance displayed by these people is incredible 😂
She supports giving weapons to Ukraine. Milei is far right and supports Ukraiine also.
So, are you now saying Zhelenski isn't far right? You finally figured that you're the far-right. There is hope after all.
Every European capital should have at least one statue of president Zelensky. He is a rock star of geopolitics
I never met anybody with such an inactive gag reflex.
Lmao! Good one.😂😂😂😂
Putins departure from Russia is the safest choice
Lmao. You're departure from YT is needed.
Lol! What the other comment says!
Ya'll complaning about the price of electricity and gas, now imagine the price ya'll pay if Russia winns. Remember that☝️
I honestly don't get how some of my fellow Europeans don't support Ukraine. If there ever was clear situation to support the good guy and underdog vs the aggressor, this is it.
Did you support Iraq when it was invade? If yes how?
Because some Europeans value culture over ideology, democrat.
Its strange when EU US bombed Syria are you the bad guys ? where is rebuild Syria initiative ? Where are the sanctions ? Or is it different when we do it ?
@@Eureka2003 How does valuing culture over ideology lead on to support Russia's attempts at subjugating another country?
I’m often characterized as far-right, but I’m also a strong advocate for Ukraine, we should be doing more/better. Anyone who claims to be respectable, esp if they are in Europe, but are not adequately contributing, will face degradation of reputation, history will not be kind
Ukraine was always on borrowed time Ukraine could've beaten the Russians back at least to the 2014 boundaries if the west had delivered weapons needed in a timely manner and lifted all and any restrictions on how Ukraine used said weapons just doesn't make sense
Lmao! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Zelensky changed his shirt for the upcoming Right win celebration ((((((((((((((-: This is becoming a joke
I don’t know why all this guest spread wrong information and lies here about battlefield .. Russia never ever conduct the attack in Kharkiv with 90k soldiers .. 😂😂😂 seriously who gave this information to them .. clown 🤡