The thing is, being Captain America was never a priority for Steve Rogers. He was just himself and stuck to what he knew was right. FFS, Steve went rogue three times. He was branded a traitor for the bulk of the time he was in the present. The government passing the title on to someone else shouldn't matter so much because, seriously, Captain Rogers was better than Captain America.
It’s kind of like taking a massive shit on Steve’s grave by giving his own title to some random guy. Especially since Steve already had a successor in mind
@@christianaguiare544 A successor who gave it up immediately. It shouldn't have been surprising that the government reclaims the shield and uses it for good.
@@grayski3324 If Steve wanted to give it to the government than he would’ve told Sam. And let’s not forget this is a man who stole from a history museum and was a fugitive from the law for over 2 years
USSES IT FOR GOOD SORRY BUT CALLING YOURSELF CAPTAIN AMERICA WHILE INTRODUCING YOURSELF TELLS HIS ATTITUDE TAKE AWAY HIS SHEILD AND HE IS NOTHING @@grayski3324
This serie showed that everyone has a bad side: Walker, Karli, but most importantly Sam and Bucky, too. Everyone has flaws and as Zemo said, it's important to keep that in mind, otherwise we make them icons, and from that, bad things happen.
They had to evolve the 2 main characters, introduce at least 2 more. Make a stand alone story that fits into the MCU plus the Contessa and set up for the Thunderbolts film. What would you have done?
@@ShadowSonic2 The character conflict of being petty and hostile to a guy constantly trying to reach out to and work with him to stop a terrorist group?
@@drowningmerman4256 i mean, it does make sense why they’d act like that to john tho. he’s trying to be captain america more than he is trying to live up to his legacy and the way he interacts with sam and bucky shows an extension of that. i’d be pretty hostile if someone started trying to be a loved one i’d lost and tried to make a connection based on, especially following events i didn’t want to happen. (for sam, it was anyone taking up the shield since he put it in the museum. for bucky, it was the shield being anywhere that wasn’t with sam since steve wanted sam to have it)
They are being canonically accurate from the comics. There have been multiple captain America’s. All of which should have their story told as they are all great characters. Get over it.
@@peeweemaroske8619 It doesn’t cause confusion lol if it does you have low brain power. And that’s kinda the point. Everyone has a favorite. It’s the same idea of Batman vs Superman. Everyone gets a character they like.
Someone clearly never read the comics. Captain America will always be replaced. Steve Rogers is a name, captain America is a mantle and it’s passed down. Bucky will probably be next. Steve Rogers is dead, move on.
The big difference with iron man is that there wasn’t many iron man’s ones that did succeed him went under different names as far as I can remember Iron Man IS Tony Stark as much as Tony Stark IS Iron Man. The total Captain America is a symbol and a title rather than A identity. Steve Rogers never flaunted the titles Captain America he rarely if ever called himself that in the films unlike Iron Man who went on national tv and told the world who He was. Roger didn’t and wouldn’t want this to be specific to him as he sees it a symbol to carry America forward and to continue to be a symbol.
The only man who travelled through time with him (in solid ice at that), the only man that could’ve saved him was his own childhood friend. Now someone else who’s entire persona was as an extension of the government has the gall to call a man he never knew like his own “Brother”. Yeah, I can’t really say I blame Bucky for being so pissed off at Steve’s replacement
Pissed at Walker for daring to tread in Steve’s shoes when he doesn’t have the first clue about what it means to be Captain America Pissed at Sam for giving up the shield because he thought he wasn’t worthy of the title Damn i feel bad for Barnes…
but he really isn't...he chose to save people of his own accord with no friend to break him out of his trauma, even though those people fcked him over and over again, John doesn't even do mindless killing...
They also turned Bucky and Sam into bitter jackasses that threw olive branches in John's face. Bucky and Sam are supposed to be the good guys in this series? Sam kept on letting the flag smashers go. They indirectly let Lamar get killed.
@@9751matt what Sam and Bucky did to John? They said they are not interested to work with John that's it Only mistake Sam and Bucky did in the series was working with John in episode 4
i think what gets to me is that John walker just calls him bucky straight up. its still a nickname, id be inclined to dislike someone who just starts adrssing my by nickname first thing.
The Smithsonian literally has a name plague that says Bucky Barnes, given Walker likely grew up with a lot of history stuff that also calls him Bucky, that’s the name he went with.
@@CaptainPikeachu it doesn't say bucky Barnes it has his full name on it and people he's close with can only call uim bucky as it was a nickname given to him by Steve and Steve was someone who had a good judge of character which is why Sam can call him bucky or buck its a nickname people shouldn't out right call him by the first time you see him.
I'd guess because Homelander is clearly written as a villain, where as Walker is written as how a human would act but the show frames him as a villain.
John walker tried so hard to be the next cap only to realize in the end hes meant to be his own super hero. There was no need to hate on walker. He was really trying . In reality no one will ever have steves heart not even sam or bucky. If steve met walker he would respect him unlike everyone else who had a stink eye for walker
I think this is true but the reason I dislike Walker is because with some things he really crossed the line. First of all the cold-blooded murder of a man who wasn’t even the one that killed his best friend? But also little things like acting all familiar with Sam and Bucky when they didn’t know each other (because that would piss me off too if someone did that to me irl). And some of the comments he made to Bucky were super out of line (“I’m not like you” “This is all really easy for you isn’t it?”). Like that man is dealing with extreme PTSD and self-loathing, and Walker really wasn’t helping. But yeah Sam and Bucky did act a bit too asshole-y to Walker even if I understand where they were coming from
@@fulcrum097 That man was a terrorist, a living weapon that would've gotten away, if it wasn't for John and he was the reason his best friend died, put you in that situation, you wouldn't do the same? The whole time Walker has been nothing but nice to the both of them only to be treated like trash. Honestly his overqualified to be captain america
@@BlueSkullX I mean John wsa probably in the armed forces longer than Bucky, but yeah-- having served in WW2 and fought HYDRA during the worst war in history is pretty much unmatchable.
@@galinabrack6057 Yeah, Bucky only lets people call him that who know him or who he likes. Walker should maybe address him as Barnes or Sgt Barnes since they are both military vets.
True, but compared to Sam who kept trying to show he was the “real” Captain America, I think John has a right to say he’s Captain America, cause most of the time, he was helping everyone out, not for some sinister purpose, but because he actually felt happy doing the right thing, like when he comforted Lamar’s family after he died, or when he decided to help people who were in a truck who were going to be killed from falling from a ledge, that’s true heroism, more than whatever Sam was doing, who tried to be sympathetic with the literal Terrorists who killed multiple innocent people, and attacked John for killing only one Terrorist
@@Grag235Didn't Sam and Bucky stop the Flagsmashers and saved all the hostages? What did John do except execute one in public? Of course, you'd act like Sam didn't do anything just because you like John more
Biggest mistake Sam and Bucky did in the series was working with John in episode 4 Also the shield doesn't belong to Walker after what he did at the end of the episode
@@SA_586 Killing a super human terrorist makes him not worthy of the shield, when Iron Man does the same thing to Terrorists WITHOUT super human abilities? Plus, Steve killed several people, but he isn’t seen as a bad person, why is one bad and the other isn’t when they both do exactly the same thing?
Okay but imagine your best friend who’s the closest thing you have to a brother leaves you and the guy who is basically meant to replace him goes and says “he feels like a brother.” After everything Steve and Bucky did for each other? Yeah, I would be pissed too.
Yeah, but saying that he felt that Steve was a brother to him didn’t feel wrong, didn’t say he was the only brother, just that he like A brother, cause he felt inspired by Steve, Bucky getting angry that someone got so inspired by Steve to the point that John considers Steve a brother just makes him seem like a toxic fanboy who can’t accept when other people look up to the same person he does, that’s like getting mad at someone for considering your friend a hero to them, that isn’t bad, that’s just being inspired by someone you’re attached to (Plus, John didn’t even want to be Captain America, until later in his career when he realized that him being Captain America can save more lives, so he accepts it, cause he feels like other people need him)
Bucky and Sam keep duckin' on John and Lemar feels like the writers were copying what Mr Incredible did to Buddy/Incediboy/Syndrome: Police Officer: You mean he (Bomb Voyage) got away? Mr. Incredible: Well, yeah. Skippy here made sure of that. Incrediboy: INCREDIBOY!... Mr. Incredible: You’re not affiliated with me! Gov. Agents: You mean the "Flag-Smashers" got away? Wilson: Well, yes but to be fair... Barnes: (interrupts and gestures to Walker) Until Johnny-Boy here let it happened. Walker: I'M CAPTAIN AMERICA!... Barnes: You’re not affiliated with us!
Didn't Walker save their lives in the first encounter and tehn they both let him and Lemar deal with the terrorist alone? The fuck is that comparisson?
@@ShadowSonic2 Didnt John ask Sam and Bucky if they could cooperate first, but Sam and Bucky were too busy being a bag of dicks to have any courtesy whatsoever?
Times where I wished Bucky would go all Winter soldier on John walkers ass Actually no I always wanted him to go all winter soldier on John’s since the start of the show
Bucky: Don’t go down that road. Walker: I’m not like you Well yeah, Bucky became a moody dick after 70 years of brainwashing and torture. What’s your excuse John?
20 years of military trauma and just now seeing his best friend get murdered might also trigger some bad reactions Also I might highly recommend you do research on what it takes for someone to get a Medal of Honor and the emotional and physical trauma. Watch real life Medal of Honor recipients. And then think on the fact that Walker has THREE Medals of Honor, not just one. Most people don’t even get one medal, the fact that Walker has three speaks to his character far more than most people can even truly understand.
So in otherworldly Bucky not being professional enough to set aside personal feelings for his allies in order to get the job done like real soldiers do and John trying to work with Sam and Bucky so the job gets done? Yeah Walker did nothing wrong
All three have too many issues to be put in the field. Given how Karli died, this whole thing could've been wrapped up more easily by a spec ops unit with a precise application of gunfire.
@@SA_586 Plan, that they did not disclose to him, did not inform him, and John had to work with what he have and he is a bad guy here? Don't you think, if they would be a little less assholes themselves, if they put aside their feeling and work as, well, professionals should work, they'd would deal with all those terrorists a lot more faster, and saved a lot more lives?
R.I.P Lamar Hoskins. I genuinely feel sorry for Lamar with all the unjustified hatred for him and everyone siding with the people who murdered him. He seemed like a decent guy but didn't stand a chance against super-soldiers or pyscho punk kids with a serum. Also he was telling the truth. Bucky and Sam were getting thier asses kicked.
I’ve noticed a of people here are mad at Bucky for being a jerk to Walker for no reason, when I honestly think he was still grieving Steve. I’d be angry too if I was in Bucky’s position. Even after John admits he doesn’t want to replace Steve, I would still be mad, because he would be reminding me of Steve every time I saw him. (Also Walker claimed Steve was like his brother, even though that was untrue.)
I personally don't think that. He's got years of trauma from being in the war, being kidnapped and experimented on by Zola, falling to his "death", being tortured, and brainwashed and doing many horrible things as the winter soldier, fighting Thanos, then losing his best friend. Like Bucky told his therapist (who I really don't like) he fought one fight after another for ninety years, he got a little peace in Wakanda but then even that was taken from him.
@@beccagregory3586 i understand what you are saying, but i am reffering to his behavior towards john walker, the guy is telling him that he doesn't want to replace steve, he just wants to be the best captain he can be, after falcon gives it up, does bucky give him a chance? Not even for one minute, from the start just puts him down as unworthy, that is snowflake behavior
John: "Your partner is in there. Do you want his blood on your hands?" My guy you rushing in is the reason hoskins your partner got murdered by accident
I never made it through the first episode, but I’ve read that John was surprisingly the one acting like an actual hero and that Sam and Bucky were just dicks to him. Is this true?
Correct me if I'm wrong but John Walker was Chosen to be the next Captain America and Because of that, Falcon and Bucky hate him for that which speaks hate fueled by Jealousy! Which makes them look like pretty much dicks to John! Hell John tried to gain their respect and even went as far as to say "Im not trying to replace steve" not only that but perhaps if maybe they treated John with a little bit more respect this would not have led to some kind of rivalry and plus it feels as though what John did killing that terroist guy can be Justified. I mean people is it really "evil" to kill terroists who hurt the innocents? Are IRL events like 9/11 a joke to you?
1- The punctuation and writing on your comment is a bit incoherent and hard to follow. 2- "what John did killing that terroist guy can be Justified" : It was completely justified. The guy had killed multiple innocent people, aided in the murder of Walker's best friend and had the super soldier serum, Walker did everyone a favour.
@@drowningmerman4256 The Flag Smashers didn't kill anyone innocent, the GRC Personnel were complicit in murder. Plus Walker killed a surrendering opponent, that's against the rules of war that the US keep bringing up
Only Bucky hated John for becoming Cap ,sam never hated him for that Sam just didn't want to work with John and Lemar because he was screwed by government and he is not ready trust two government puppets again Also John didn't kill the terrorist for noble intention he killed him just because he is angry
To the same guy who said that it must be easy for Bucky since he's a supersoldier even though he knows Bucky was the Winter Soldier and still suffering from the guilt of all the people he killed. Among other things...
wow Bucky shows how much a bully he can be when he dont get his way so sad. John tried to live up to being Captain America no one person is the same bucky dont understand we are all Snow Flakes
Do you know what episode where John tells Bucky, "This is all really easy for you, isn't it? All that serum running through your veins." I've been trying to find it 😭
Bucky assasinated people for 50 years because he was brainwashed and yet he still forgives the same peron who did this to him, its like forgiving a toxic parent or rapist for tormenting you for 50 years. Like what the fuck
I know when bucky was the winter soldier his brain was off and he went to another level but Steve Rogers could barely hold bucky back but walker could handle bucky and Sam? Just feel they made walker more formidable then Steve Rogers
@@chadbinette3201He has three metal of honor, which no one else does, he is tested to have peak strengh, speed, edurance and intellegent. Even before he got the serum, he stoop his ground against super soldiers.
Walker: *breathes*
Bucky: Oh my god, can you not?!
Bucky 🤝 me
😂😂😂
That's exactly how he was acting. It was ridiculous.
I mean, yeah, I have the same reaction every time I see his face 😅
@lizzie2307 we all do
John walker: *exists*
Bucky: ... and i took that personally
He's not the only one..
@@NickyvonHungary
Definitely
Since then Walker has been on Bucky’s list.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😹
I only realized that Bucky’s face really grimaced when Walker said “he was like a brother” 👀😬
O my gosh you right!
I know I was . Walker Lemar no offense but stop being cringey please
Bucky: *Meets John* i feel the Winter Soldier coming back
Sam: But you're cured right?
Bucky: ...
Sam: Bucky?
Bucky: Ready to comply
Hahahahahaa
Ya Gotov Otvechat’
Mission Report: December 16th 1991
@@sidabundaioh crapppppo
Naaahhhhhhhhhhh
I mean I get Bucky, you know. Everyone wants to replace his best friend, he just misses Steve
The thing is, being Captain America was never a priority for Steve Rogers. He was just himself and stuck to what he knew was right. FFS, Steve went rogue three times. He was branded a traitor for the bulk of the time he was in the present.
The government passing the title on to someone else shouldn't matter so much because, seriously, Captain Rogers was better than Captain America.
It’s kind of like taking a massive shit on Steve’s grave by giving his own title to some random guy. Especially since Steve already had a successor in mind
@@christianaguiare544 A successor who gave it up immediately. It shouldn't have been surprising that the government reclaims the shield and uses it for good.
@@grayski3324 If Steve wanted to give it to the government than he would’ve told Sam. And let’s not forget this is a man who stole from a history museum and was a fugitive from the law for over 2 years
USSES IT FOR GOOD SORRY BUT CALLING YOURSELF CAPTAIN AMERICA WHILE INTRODUCING YOURSELF TELLS HIS ATTITUDE TAKE AWAY HIS SHEILD AND HE IS NOTHING @@grayski3324
John: * start's talking*
Bucky: OH HELL NO-
This serie showed that everyone has a bad side: Walker, Karli, but most importantly Sam and Bucky, too. Everyone has flaws and as Zemo said, it's important to keep that in mind, otherwise we make them icons, and from that, bad things happen.
Bad things happened when the writters of this show were given work.
They had to evolve the 2 main characters, introduce at least 2 more. Make a stand alone story that fits into the MCU plus the Contessa and set up for the Thunderbolts film. What would you have done?
@@drowningmerman4256 Oh grow up. This is the kind of internal character conflict I wish I could see in Batman.
@@ShadowSonic2 The character conflict of being petty and hostile to a guy constantly trying to reach out to and work with him to stop a terrorist group?
@@drowningmerman4256 i mean, it does make sense why they’d act like that to john tho. he’s trying to be captain america more than he is trying to live up to his legacy and the way he interacts with sam and bucky shows an extension of that. i’d be pretty hostile if someone started trying to be a loved one i’d lost and tried to make a connection based on, especially following events i didn’t want to happen. (for sam, it was anyone taking up the shield since he put it in the museum. for bucky, it was the shield being anywhere that wasn’t with sam since steve wanted sam to have it)
*he felt like a brother.*
Bucky: 😡
"so you choose war"
To me no one can replace Steve Rogers. They should have just honour him the way they did to Iron Man.
They are being canonically accurate from the comics. There have been multiple captain America’s. All of which should have their story told as they are all great characters. Get over it.
@@lotuslady9821 Yeah but that just causes confusion. Just like how there are different Robin's. Causes arguments on who's the best.
@@peeweemaroske8619 It doesn’t cause confusion lol if it does you have low brain power. And that’s kinda the point. Everyone has a favorite. It’s the same idea of Batman vs Superman. Everyone gets a character they like.
Someone clearly never read the comics. Captain America will always be replaced. Steve Rogers is a name, captain America is a mantle and it’s passed down. Bucky will probably be next. Steve Rogers is dead, move on.
The big difference with iron man is that there wasn’t many iron man’s ones that did succeed him went under different names as far as I can remember Iron Man IS Tony Stark as much as Tony Stark IS Iron Man.
The total Captain America is a symbol and a title rather than A identity. Steve Rogers never flaunted the titles Captain America he rarely if ever called himself that in the films unlike Iron Man who went on national tv and told the world who He was. Roger didn’t and wouldn’t want this to be specific to him as he sees it a symbol to carry America forward and to continue to be a symbol.
The only man who travelled through time with him (in solid ice at that), the only man that could’ve saved him was his own childhood friend. Now someone else who’s entire persona was as an extension of the government has the gall to call a man he never knew like his own “Brother”. Yeah, I can’t really say I blame Bucky for being so pissed off at Steve’s replacement
Been there been there
Pissed at Walker for daring to tread in Steve’s shoes when he doesn’t have the first clue about what it means to be Captain America
Pissed at Sam for giving up the shield because he thought he wasn’t worthy of the title
Damn i feel bad for Barnes…
1:45 Bucky: don’t go down that road believe me it doesn’t end well
John: I’m not like you
Me: 🤭
No fair bucky is pure now
“This bitch-“
I was like “The audacity of this bitc-
bucky stans all really went “😚🔪” at that (me included)
but he really isn't...he chose to save people of his own accord with no friend to break him out of his trauma, even though those people fcked him over and over again, John doesn't even do mindless killing...
This series made Bucky be my favourite MCU character
Your favourites tend to be shitty people?
Same
They also turned Bucky and Sam into bitter jackasses that threw olive branches in John's face.
Bucky and Sam are supposed to be the good guys in this series? Sam kept on letting the flag smashers go. They indirectly let Lamar get killed.
Same
@@9751matt what Sam and Bucky did to John? They said they are not interested to work with John that's it
Only mistake Sam and Bucky did in the series was working with John in episode 4
i think what gets to me is that John walker just calls him bucky straight up. its still a nickname, id be inclined to dislike someone who just starts adrssing my by nickname first thing.
Wtf are you talking about??
The Smithsonian literally has a name plague that says Bucky Barnes, given Walker likely grew up with a lot of history stuff that also calls him Bucky, that’s the name he went with.
@@CaptainPikeachu it doesn't say bucky Barnes it has his full name on it and people he's close with can only call uim bucky as it was a nickname given to him by Steve and Steve was someone who had a good judge of character which is why Sam can call him bucky or buck its a nickname people shouldn't out right call him by the first time you see him.
@@jaquanbrown413 that’s the same reason zemo calls him James at times
The hilarious thing is that Zemo always calls him "James" and Bucky doesn't get mad at that.
I can not fuCKing wAIT for these two to interact again in the Thunderbolts. It’s gonna be sO gOOD.
'bc u smell'
Literally had to pause the video.
I'm dyinggggg. 😂😂😂😂😂
2:10 Crazy to hear him say that... knowing how things go down...
I don't get it why people hate so much John Walker but in the other hand love Homelander from The Boys...
Homelander is a jerk and John Walker is a Steve Rogers wannabe.
I'd guess because Homelander is clearly written as a villain, where as Walker is written as how a human would act but the show frames him as a villain.
I hate John Walker…I really like Soldier Boy. 🤷🏻♀️
You can love a villain
You’re assuming that the people who hate John Walker are the same people who love Homelander.
Personally, I’m happy to hate BOTH characters.
John walker tried so hard to be the next cap only to realize in the end hes meant to be his own super hero. There was no need to hate on walker. He was really trying . In reality no one will ever have steves heart not even sam or bucky. If steve met walker he would respect him unlike everyone else who had a stink eye for walker
I think this is true but the reason I dislike Walker is because with some things he really crossed the line. First of all the cold-blooded murder of a man who wasn’t even the one that killed his best friend? But also little things like acting all familiar with Sam and Bucky when they didn’t know each other (because that would piss me off too if someone did that to me irl). And some of the comments he made to Bucky were super out of line (“I’m not like you” “This is all really easy for you isn’t it?”). Like that man is dealing with extreme PTSD and self-loathing, and Walker really wasn’t helping. But yeah Sam and Bucky did act a bit too asshole-y to Walker even if I understand where they were coming from
@@fulcrum097 That man was a terrorist, a living weapon that would've gotten away, if it wasn't for John and he was the reason his best friend died, put you in that situation, you wouldn't do the same? The whole time Walker has been nothing but nice to the both of them only to be treated like trash.
Honestly his overqualified to be captain america
@@fulcrum097in the words of George W Bush, "we don't negotiate with terrorists."
John: walks into room
Bucky: safety off ▄︻̷̿┻̿═━一
💪 safety off
🧠 Безопасность выключена
This is underrated 😆😂
Ah, Mr Hiase.
Ah, Mr Haise Sasaki. How have you been?
Buck was probably like *is he srly gaslighting me about my boyfriend as if he knows better*
Sgt Barnes to you, walker. show some respect.
I think Walker outranks him in the military though.. wasn;t he an officer?
@@englishlady9797 Bucky just did more than John in terms of service. Both in the Military and Superhero world
@@BlueSkullX I mean John wsa probably in the armed forces longer than Bucky, but yeah-- having served in WW2 and fought HYDRA during the worst war in history is pretty much unmatchable.
@englishlady9797
So what? You address people you don't know formally. Not by their NICKNAME!
@@galinabrack6057 Yeah, Bucky only lets people call him that who know him or who he likes. Walker should maybe address him as Barnes or Sgt Barnes since they are both military vets.
Bucky & Sam vs Walker: takes 15 minutes
Winter Soldier vs Steve: haha, I got your shield
Outro song ?
I only disliked John because of how often he said he was Captain America. He was way to arrogant about it.
Atleast he is more human than Sam
I bet 99% of people would have used that title as a shell, he wasn't doing nothing.
True, but compared to Sam who kept trying to show he was the “real” Captain America, I think John has a right to say he’s Captain America, cause most of the time, he was helping everyone out, not for some sinister purpose, but because he actually felt happy doing the right thing, like when he comforted Lamar’s family after he died, or when he decided to help people who were in a truck who were going to be killed from falling from a ledge, that’s true heroism, more than whatever Sam was doing, who tried to be sympathetic with the literal Terrorists who killed multiple innocent people, and attacked John for killing only one Terrorist
@@Grag235Didn't Sam and Bucky stop the Flagsmashers and saved all the hostages? What did John do except execute one in public? Of course, you'd act like Sam didn't do anything just because you like John more
Um, John, His name is James. Do Not Call Him Bucky! You don't have that right.
I like the way Bucky kicks Walker’s ass
Sam and Bucky should have mentored him to be Captain America
But instead used Lamars death to steal back the shield
Biggest mistake Sam and Bucky did in the series was working with John in episode 4
Also the shield doesn't belong to Walker after what he did at the end of the episode
@@SA_586biggest mistake sam did was
He thought he will be next Steve Rogers 😂
@@SA_586didn't Steve did the same thing in civil war?
John literally lost his best friend
@@SA_586 Killing a super human terrorist makes him not worthy of the shield, when Iron Man does the same thing to Terrorists WITHOUT super human abilities? Plus, Steve killed several people, but he isn’t seen as a bad person, why is one bad and the other isn’t when they both do exactly the same thing?
he didnt deserve steves shield sorry
there should’ve been a test, if you can lift thor’s hammer you can have the shield
Okay but imagine your best friend who’s the closest thing you have to a brother leaves you and the guy who is basically meant to replace him goes and says “he feels like a brother.” After everything Steve and Bucky did for each other? Yeah, I would be pissed too.
Yeah, but saying that he felt that Steve was a brother to him didn’t feel wrong, didn’t say he was the only brother, just that he like A brother, cause he felt inspired by Steve, Bucky getting angry that someone got so inspired by Steve to the point that John considers Steve a brother just makes him seem like a toxic fanboy who can’t accept when other people look up to the same person he does, that’s like getting mad at someone for considering your friend a hero to them, that isn’t bad, that’s just being inspired by someone you’re attached to
(Plus, John didn’t even want to be Captain America, until later in his career when he realized that him being Captain America can save more lives, so he accepts it, cause he feels like other people need him)
I think no one should call him "Bucky" except Steve
- Looking strong, John! 🤪
- Buckyyyy 🙄
Bucky and Sam keep duckin' on John and Lemar feels like the writers were copying what Mr Incredible did to Buddy/Incediboy/Syndrome:
Police Officer: You mean he (Bomb Voyage) got away?
Mr. Incredible: Well, yeah. Skippy here made sure of that.
Incrediboy: INCREDIBOY!...
Mr. Incredible: You’re not affiliated with me!
Gov. Agents: You mean the "Flag-Smashers" got away?
Wilson: Well, yes but to be fair...
Barnes: (interrupts and gestures to Walker) Until Johnny-Boy here let it happened.
Walker: I'M CAPTAIN AMERICA!...
Barnes: You’re not affiliated with us!
Didn't Walker save their lives in the first encounter and tehn they both let him and Lemar deal with the terrorist alone? The fuck is that comparisson?
@@drowningmerman4256 He told Bucky and Sam to not interfere with him...and then he spent the rest of the show interfering with THEM.
@@ShadowSonic2 Didnt John ask Sam and Bucky if they could cooperate first, but Sam and Bucky were too busy being a bag of dicks to have any courtesy whatsoever?
@@ShadowSonic2 because they wouldn't leave the issue to him. That's the whole point. Bucky and Sam aren't very good heroes.
Times where I wished Bucky would go all Winter soldier on John walkers ass
Actually no I always wanted him to go all winter soldier on John’s since the start of the show
For what?
For doing his job?
Stop being an asshole
Bucky: Don’t go down that road.
Walker: I’m not like you
Well yeah, Bucky became a moody dick after 70 years of brainwashing and torture. What’s your excuse John?
20 years of military trauma and just now seeing his best friend get murdered might also trigger some bad reactions
Also I might highly recommend you do research on what it takes for someone to get a Medal of Honor and the emotional and physical trauma. Watch real life Medal of Honor recipients. And then think on the fact that Walker has THREE Medals of Honor, not just one. Most people don’t even get one medal, the fact that Walker has three speaks to his character far more than most people can even truly understand.
@@CaptainPikeachu Doesn't change the fact that he's being a hypocrite.
@@CaptainPikeachu Yeah, but the sad thing is that it was Walker's own impulsiveness that ultimately caused Lemar's death.
@@CaptainPikeachu you fuckin told him 👍
@@ShadowSonic2 How did Walkers impulsiveness cause Karli to punch Lamar into there pillar? You're simping harder than Falcon for her
Sebastian Stam / James Buchanan Barnes Winter Soldier
where's the original
it got blocked in my main channel @mykingbird
I love this
Mander Moore / Rachel Saruzner Ladd Venom
Rachel Saruzne Ladd daughter of the Sue Ladd
Arauptinse Kid Rachel Saruzner Ladd / Venom
Arauptinse T'Challa / Black Panther
Corzey Lopez / Carlos Curry Prince Doctor Rider
Carlos Curry Prince Son of the Diana Prince
Bruh I'm Dead 🤣
Sees John-I feel a storm brewing 💀
The fact that bucky become weaker when he became a good guy
he didn't he just holds back because he's scared he's still strong he just doesn't really want to fight anymore
He's not weaker he's just holding back because he doesn't want to hurt people (it's literally shown in episode 3 how strong he can be if he wants to)
I almost threw up when John said the word Bucky🤮
Walker shouldnt be allowed to call him Bucky 😡
I hate John Walker just as much or more than Bucky does
The world:That guy died?
Bucky and Sam:Yeah,Walker here did that.
Walker:Captain America!
Bucky and Sam:YOUR NOT AFFILIATED WITH ME!!!!
😂😂😂
So in otherworldly Bucky not being professional enough to set aside personal feelings for his allies in order to get the job done like real soldiers do and John trying to work with Sam and Bucky so the job gets done? Yeah Walker did nothing wrong
All three have too many issues to be put in the field. Given how Karli died, this whole thing could've been wrapped up more easily by a spec ops unit with a precise application of gunfire.
Sam and Bucky didn't work with Walker because he is asshole who screwed their plan in episode 4
@@SA_586 Plan, that they did not disclose to him, did not inform him, and John had to work with what he have and he is a bad guy here? Don't you think, if they would be a little less assholes themselves, if they put aside their feeling and work as, well, professionals should work, they'd would deal with all those terrorists a lot more faster, and saved a lot more lives?
2:18 Bucky didn’t need to be crazy to see that this man is clearly unhinged
R.I.P Lamar Hoskins. I genuinely feel sorry for Lamar with all the unjustified hatred for him and everyone siding with the people who murdered him. He seemed like a decent guy but didn't stand a chance against super-soldiers or pyscho punk kids with a serum.
Also he was telling the truth. Bucky and Sam were getting thier asses kicked.
0:22 Sam sounds like a mother reprimanding a child lol
Walker sucks. I totally wanted Bucky to punch him from the time he first appeared.
I’ve noticed a of people here are mad at Bucky for being a jerk to Walker for no reason, when I honestly think he was still grieving Steve. I’d be angry too if I was in Bucky’s position. Even after John admits he doesn’t want to replace Steve, I would still be mad, because he would be reminding me of Steve every time I saw him. (Also Walker claimed Steve was like his brother, even though that was untrue.)
Ikr bucky was such a butthurt snowflake during the show💀
I personally don't think that. He's got years of trauma from being in the war, being kidnapped and experimented on by Zola, falling to his "death", being tortured, and brainwashed and doing many horrible things as the winter soldier, fighting Thanos, then losing his best friend. Like Bucky told his therapist (who I really don't like) he fought one fight after another for ninety years, he got a little peace in Wakanda but then even that was taken from him.
@@beccagregory3586 i understand what you are saying, but i am reffering to his behavior towards john walker, the guy is telling him that he doesn't want to replace steve, he just wants to be the best captain he can be, after falcon gives it up, does bucky give him a chance? Not even for one minute, from the start just puts him down as unworthy, that is snowflake behavior
@@beccagregory3586He acted like a child throughout the series
Wow Bucky must hate John Walker
This just makes Bucky look bad.
Can't wait for them to form a badass and loyal friendship in Thunderbolts.
😭 pls no
Bucky don't deserve his friendship after how he treated him
@unnaturaldodo how bucky treated walker or walker treated bucky
Bucky: Don't go down that road, believe me it doesn't end well.
Walker: I'm not like you!
Me: Alright that tears it! 😡🔪
Absolutely hate how weak they made buckey
John: "Your partner is in there. Do you want his blood on your hands?"
My guy you rushing in is the reason hoskins your partner got murdered by accident
why do people hate him so much
They prefer pure vanilla ice cream
You know what I mean
@@nohomonohetero7932 Yea. I do.
I never made it through the first episode, but I’ve read that John was surprisingly the one acting like an actual hero and that Sam and Bucky were just dicks to him. Is this true?
No.
completely true
@@unnaturaldodoWho did John save in this show? Sam and Bucky stopped the Flagsmashers and saved all of the hostages
Is it just me or does Walker look like a different person in every clip?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Correct me if I'm wrong but John Walker was Chosen to be the next Captain America and Because of that, Falcon and Bucky hate him for that which speaks hate fueled by Jealousy! Which makes them look like pretty much dicks to John! Hell John tried to gain their respect and even went as far as to say "Im not trying to replace steve" not only that but perhaps if maybe they treated John with a little bit more respect this would not have led to some kind of rivalry and plus it feels as though what John did killing that terroist guy can be Justified. I mean people is it really "evil" to kill terroists who hurt the innocents? Are IRL events like 9/11 a joke to you?
1- The punctuation and writing on your comment is a bit incoherent and hard to follow.
2- "what John did killing that terroist guy can be Justified" : It was completely justified. The guy had killed multiple innocent people, aided in the murder of Walker's best friend and had the super soldier serum, Walker did everyone a favour.
Sam didn't hate Walker, he always tried to be respectful to him and diplomatic.
Bucky was the one who was the dick to him.
@@drowningmerman4256 The Flag Smashers didn't kill anyone innocent, the GRC Personnel were complicit in murder. Plus Walker killed a surrendering opponent, that's against the rules of war that the US keep bringing up
@@ShadowSonic2 "the GRC Personnel were complicit in murder" When?
You are really investing on defending this dogshit of a show, aren't you?
Only Bucky hated John for becoming Cap ,sam never hated him for that
Sam just didn't want to work with John and Lemar because he was screwed by government and he is not ready trust two government puppets again
Also John didn't kill the terrorist for noble intention he killed him just because he is angry
Stop😑 disrespecting Our Captain America by using that guy
Steve would have liked john if he was alive
@@RajaShaw-rf5dqBut he wouldn't have given him the shield.
Never resonated more with Bucky on an opinion than now
Justified
Indeed
Naa Bucky was butthurt for no reason
also known as Bucky being a toxic bully for 3 mins 👍🏼
To the same guy who said that it must be easy for Bucky since he's a supersoldier even though he knows Bucky was the Winter Soldier and still suffering from the guilt of all the people he killed. Among other things...
wow Bucky shows how much a bully he can be when he dont get his way so sad. John tried to live up to being Captain America no one person is the same bucky dont understand we are all Snow Flakes
Bucky's behavior in the series wasn't any better. In fact, I found myself disliking him a lot more than Walker.
Do you know what episode where John tells Bucky, "This is all really easy for you, isn't it? All that serum running through your veins." I've been trying to find it 😭
Never mind I found it 😁
john literally murdered someone
Bucky assasinated people for 50 years because he was brainwashed and yet he still forgives the same peron who did this to him, its like forgiving a toxic parent or rapist for tormenting you for 50 years. Like what the fuck
What the fuck why? You have not a single reason to. His behavior is justified. John is just a cocky bastard.
I know when bucky was the winter soldier his brain was off and he went to another level but Steve Rogers could barely hold bucky back but walker could handle bucky and Sam? Just feel they made walker more formidable then Steve Rogers
I think we are supposed to get the idea that Bucky is kind of holding back now too.
@@TrappedinSLC He was craving for that fight so nah
His a war veteran so there's that
@@unnaturaldodo and bucky and Steve Rogers aren't war veterans? Pretty sure bucky has more ptsd than walker could ever fathom
@@chadbinette3201He has three metal of honor, which no one else does, he is tested to have peak strengh, speed, edurance and intellegent. Even before he got the serum, he stoop his ground against super soldiers.
Now I'm disappointed in tony stark for not doing what he should have done in civil war
Why are u making me do this?!!