There is no Nobel prize for mathematics or computer science. The committee must've thought if we achieve AGI in the near future, this man will be one of the most important in the history of humanity.
yeah granted it is quite a stretch. it's good that scholars in the CS field are finally getting their recognition. but it should've been its own catagory. Maybe they just don't have the resources to split it into 2 categories. The monetary reward for the prize is about 1 million dollars. The prize in economics which was created later were funded by their central bank. Without proper funding I guess it's hard to just award it separately
It’s so surprising! He is a pioneer in AI, and awarded of Turing Award. The Nobel Prize in Physics should be awarded to scientists who are truly doing physics research, encouraging those who work hard on fundamental research.
@@Izquierda Perhaps w/r fundamental physics but what about experimental physics, e.g. Event Horizon Telescope Project. Originally, the prize was given to experimental work not theoretical work. I was glad that the Committee overlooked that experimental prospective when Jim Peebles and Roger Penrose were awarded the Physics prize.
As a Uoft student I am very pleased and happy to see that Prof . Hinton won the Nobel prize in physics ! I never thought I would witness any Nobel prize winner from my university!!
Wish the Nobel Committee on Physics knew what Physics is.. Hinton could have gotten any number of prizes in Computer Science or Applied Mathematics. So Bizarre
I think the argument can easily be made that any recent achievement in the field of Physics, or in any other field of science, for that matter, will be viewed as inconsequential, meaningless, even, compared to the impact and the consequences of what these computer scientists have created - if there will be any of us left in, say, half a century, to look back at it.
Well deserved. Remember, G. Hinton previously won the James Clerk Maxwell Medal, the Turing Award, the Dickson Prize and the Princess of Asturias Award. This man is not just another computer scientist. He is a living legend.
3:01: "I wish I had a sort of simple recipe that if you do this everything's going to be okay, but I don't. In particular, with respect to the existential threat of these things getting out of control and taking over, I think we're at kind of a bifurcation point in history where in the next few years we need to figure out IF there's a way to deal with that threat."
Why in physics? Sorry, but I don't see the connection between AI and fundamental research in physics 🤔 AI is simply not in the scope of topics that the Nobel Prizes covers.
Some of the early, including textbooks like "introduction to the theory of neural computation" from the 90s, have used hopfield networks, energy-based and ising models in statistical mechanics to model the brain. It was all considered theoretical physics back then, Hinton derived backprop to make it possible to compute in the computer. That's why it is physics.
I suspect the committee did it because (1) there is no Nobel prize for computer science, (2) but CS is more closely related to physics than any of the other awards, and (3) the magnitude of the effects of Hinton’s discoveries on humanity will likely outweigh any other scientific discovery in history. How could they ignore them? Also, I think we are witnessing the final years of human discovery and invention, which saddens me.
100 years ago, there were no computers, so the Nobel Prize for Computer Science was not considered. Now, they have found a workaround, and I am happy they did. Hopefully, there will be a way to extend the Novel prizes and include additional fields like Computer Science and others.
Ok so there is something called partial differential equations which no computer or human can solve and AI can solve so hence . Partial differential equayion is used in very branch of physics
I don't know why people in the comments are questioning this achievement, do they think they know more? The connection to physics comes from the use of statistical physics and network models in their research. Geoffrey applied principles of physics, particularly in the modeling of artificial neural networks, which mimic the behavior of neurons in the human brain. It is physics related
He's so right when he talks about LLMs and understanding, he always was, but people laughed to his face for so many years (and laughed to mine too, and everyone's not in the Chomsky's pseudo-scientific politicized current). I feel so happy for Prof. Hinton for this achievement. Well deserved.
He's talking about language *processing* which is completely irrelevant to the generative enterprise. Neural nets might well be important when explaining how we process language but how do they explain any of the phenomena that generative syntax theories explain, such as V2, island effects, parasitic gaps or even ellipsis? They don't. Neural nets also don't explain why children discard hypotheses of linear structure and instead go for hierarchical structure although the data children receive are consistent with rules of linear adjacency. In my experience, criticizing Chomskyan linguistics without presenting any arguments is very common, which apparently is approved even among scholars who despise such endeavours in other domains, such as politics. It's just a sad comment on the times.
Why in physics? Answer is here: Geoffrey Hinton, building on Hopfield's work, developed the Boltzmann machine, using statistical physics to create a network capable of recognizing elements within data, like identifying specific parts of an image. His work laid the foundation for much of today's machine learning advancements, especially in image recognition.
Congrats to Hinton on Nobel Prize , albeit I have to disagree with some of Hinton comment over the past year, I think his thinking like AI in 50 years rather then now. Beside that I think under Von Newman AI at most is an imitation, if we want AI like human or Cortana from Halo the game, at least closer to now we have to jump out of Von Newman Alma matter of mine, while one of, UofT
Totally deserved imho. There is a reason the backprop paper was published in Nature. It was absolutely fundamental research in how information representations work and how these representations can be processed.
Question: Will Nobel Prize add new categories? 💡🙂 Been paying attention to Mr.Hinton after attending one of his conferences. Very happy for his achievement and seeing this as a bold message from the committee.
Professor Hinton's acceptance speech of the Nobel Prize 🏆 could present a moment of serious ethical questions on Artificial Intelligence and what actions need to happen
Congrats to Hinton, albeit I have to disagree with some of Hinton comment over the past year, I think his thinking like AI in 50 years rather then now. Alma matter of mine, while one of, UofT
It would be great to add a new prize rather than giving someone who doesn't work in that field. If someone throws a logic that modern research needs a machine learning then every research paper must need some writing skill so why not you are giving a writer a science madel or any mathematician getting Nobel prize?
How relevant is contemporary physics with all that dark matter and string theory stuff? The Academy is right to give the prize to scientists who did work that really has a massive practical impact.
It's not... Hinton used some physics related concepts when he designed ANNs (Boltzmann Machines) so Nobel commity tried their best to make us convinced that AI is actually a contribution to physics. Few people accepted their explanations, though. Yes, Hinton did use some physics concepts in ANNs. But nobel prize in physics belong to those who did a great contributions to *physics*. Even half of those who support this award are not supporting it because they think Hinton's work is related to physics but because "there are no nobel awards for CS so it's only right to give Hinton a random nobel in another 'relevant' field!"
While this may seem more in the domain of computer science or artificial intelligence, these AI tools are increasingly used in physics to model intricate systems that are otherwise difficult to analyze using traditional methods.
@@bzqp2 thst is physics though. this is not. if it is do you also think that google should pay all their plumbers millions, after all, they are a cornerstone of their business, no engineer would go to work if their toilets were overflowing
congratulations sir Your discovery is the real achievement, not the reward for your extraordinary achievement. Now many problems will be solved for you to discover 😇😇
Rigtheously done. We humans are seiling on our Natural Little Blue Planet in space and time , all alone, and then nuclear weapons to Oblivium, no way, all the World States with the same Laws and Rules must live together in Harmony and Peace. Love Thei Neigbor. In G-D we Trust. Please, No nukes. No wars. Only Wars on Poverty. Good Nutrition to All the Children of the World, for a Better Future.
"I have always been convinced that the only way to get artificial intelligence to work is to do the computation in a way similar to the human brain. That is the goal I have been pursuing. We are making progress, though we still have lots to learn about how the brain actually works." - Geoffrey Hinton An honor well deserved. Congratulations Sir.
Why so much debate in this? Technology is developed from the applied knowledge of Physics. Nobel prize was awarded to Noyce as well for the invention of the Integrated Circuit, so won’t that be considered as something related to Physics!! Me too a physics graduate, working in the VLSI domain as an engineer, physics is the foundation for technology development..
Very good! Instead of honoring the next string theory or particle physics phantasy crap, the Academy chose to honor scientists representing a field that really has made a deep practical impact to society. Thank you for chosing very deserving scientists this time!
Seems Nobel Prize need award Artificial Intelligence to prove it always track the best achievements of mankind, and artificial intelligence does not seem to need the honor from Stockholm to increase its own attention at present.
If you must know, Hinton has publicly mentioned that he has had issues with back pain for a long time. He almost never sits down, which is perhaps part of the reason he has such a slender figure.
I’m happy for Prof. Hinton, but also confused about the prize, physics?
It has triggered world wide reaction against Nobel prize
Statistical "Physics"
There is no Nobel prize for mathematics or computer science. The committee must've thought if we achieve AGI in the near future, this man will be one of the most important in the history of humanity.
yeah granted it is quite a stretch. it's good that scholars in the CS field are finally getting their recognition. but it should've been its own catagory. Maybe they just don't have the resources to split it into 2 categories. The monetary reward for the prize is about 1 million dollars. The prize in economics which was created later were funded by their central bank. Without proper funding I guess it's hard to just award it separately
@@Goat-e3g Yeah is Nonsense!
It’s so surprising! He is a pioneer in AI, and awarded of Turing Award. The Nobel Prize in Physics should be awarded to scientists who are truly doing physics research, encouraging those who work hard on fundamental research.
Probably because fundamental physics hasn't produced anything remarkable in years if not decades. It's all been a bunch of mathematical arguments.
@@Izquierda Perhaps w/r fundamental physics but what about experimental physics, e.g. Event Horizon Telescope Project. Originally, the prize was given to experimental work not theoretical work. I was glad that the Committee overlooked that experimental prospective when Jim Peebles and Roger Penrose were awarded the Physics prize.
@@Izquierdaera of fundemental physics have gone.
"I think it’s quite conceivable that humanity is just a passing phase in the evolution of intelligence." Geoffrey Hinton
@@yung-liang2861 does he think that's great?
He is absolutely right.
@@djordjo6296 The alternative (i.e., that our species were the pinnacle of intelligence on Earth) would be pretty depressing.
@@djordjo6296it is great.
I know you call people to see their reactions
- Geoffrey Hinton
Pure Geoffrey Hinton 😅
especially since it is hard to see through the phone.
As a Uoft student I am very pleased and happy to see that Prof . Hinton won the Nobel prize in physics ! I never thought I would witness any Nobel prize winner from my university!!
Wish the Nobel Committee on Physics knew what Physics is.. Hinton could have gotten any number of prizes in Computer Science or Applied Mathematics. So Bizarre
I think the argument can easily be made that any recent achievement in the field of Physics, or in any other field of science, for that matter, will be viewed as inconsequential, meaningless, even, compared to the impact and the consequences of what these computer scientists have created - if there will be any of us left in, say, half a century, to look back at it.
It's extraordinary how humble Nobel recipient's by and large are, always more concerned science.
CONGRATULATION SIR.
Well deserved. Remember, G. Hinton previously won the James Clerk Maxwell Medal, the Turing Award, the Dickson Prize and the Princess of Asturias Award.
This man is not just another computer scientist. He is a living legend.
The Nobel Committee needs to learn about Time Zones.
Most people have already in sleep at a time between 2-3am 😂
Does time existed? That is a physicist question.
As far as I understand, his work helped to solve a fundamental problem in physics.
Many Congratulations Prof. Geoffrey Hinton....👏👏
Did we get an explanation on why computer science got awarded in a physics category?
3:01: "I wish I had a sort of simple recipe that if you do this everything's going to be okay, but I don't. In particular, with respect to the existential threat of these things getting out of control and taking over, I think we're at kind of a bifurcation point in history where in the next few years we need to figure out IF there's a way to deal with that threat."
The world needs more of people who would so easily say I don't know in response to a question about a topic for which they just won a Nobel prize.
congratulations thanks for making contribution to make a world a better place
Why in physics? Sorry, but I don't see the connection between AI and fundamental research in physics 🤔
AI is simply not in the scope of topics that the Nobel Prizes covers.
Some of the early, including textbooks like "introduction to the theory of neural computation" from the 90s, have used hopfield networks, energy-based and ising models in statistical mechanics to model the brain. It was all considered theoretical physics back then, Hinton derived backprop to make it possible to compute in the computer. That's why it is physics.
For such fundamental huge impact on humanity I guess they need to come up with a new prize category
I suspect the committee did it because (1) there is no Nobel prize for computer science, (2) but CS is more closely related to physics than any of the other awards, and (3) the magnitude of the effects of Hinton’s discoveries on humanity will likely outweigh any other scientific discovery in history. How could they ignore them? Also, I think we are witnessing the final years of human discovery and invention, which saddens me.
100 years ago, there were no computers, so the Nobel Prize for Computer Science was not considered. Now, they have found a workaround, and I am happy they did. Hopefully, there will be a way to extend the Novel prizes and include additional fields like Computer Science and others.
Ok so there is something called partial differential equations which no computer or human can solve and AI can solve so hence . Partial differential equayion is used in very branch of physics
Congrats Prof. Geoff. 👏👏👏
Congratulations Mr. Hinton. Thanks for sharing this
Im a physicist and i love the idea to establish a new CS nobel prize
Congrats Sir Geoffrey E. Hinton 🎉🎉🎉
Once a legend , always a legend......
Good interview👍
I don't know why people in the comments are questioning this achievement, do they think they know more? The connection to physics comes from the use of statistical physics and network models in their research. Geoffrey applied principles of physics, particularly in the modeling of artificial neural networks, which mimic the behavior of neurons in the human brain. It is physics related
0:48 this
Don´t hate on Hinton but the Nobel prize committe.
Congratulations, prof. Hinton got it deservedly for unleashing the giant of intelligence.
Respected Laureate, Respect from Pakistan
i was here congratulations.
Congrats Hinton 🎉
He's so right when he talks about LLMs and understanding, he always was, but people laughed to his face for so many years (and laughed to mine too, and everyone's not in the Chomsky's pseudo-scientific politicized current). I feel so happy for Prof. Hinton for this achievement. Well deserved.
He's talking about language *processing* which is completely irrelevant to the generative enterprise. Neural nets might well be important when explaining how we process language but how do they explain any of the phenomena that generative syntax theories explain, such as V2, island effects, parasitic gaps or even ellipsis? They don't. Neural nets also don't explain why children discard hypotheses of linear structure and instead go for hierarchical structure although the data children receive are consistent with rules of linear adjacency. In my experience, criticizing Chomskyan linguistics without presenting any arguments is very common, which apparently is approved even among scholars who despise such endeavours in other domains, such as politics. It's just a sad comment on the times.
Congratulations to Prof. Hinton.🎉🎉🎉Although i can't understand why nobel prize of physics give to CS.😮
Congratulations sir🎉
"I was extremely surprised"
We too since there's a Turing Award for computer sciences (though it may not favor AI/LLM hype)
Why in physics?
Answer is here:
Geoffrey Hinton, building on Hopfield's work, developed the Boltzmann machine, using statistical physics to create a network capable of recognizing elements within data, like identifying specific parts of an image. His work laid the foundation for much of today's machine learning advancements, especially in image recognition.
Congratulations!
It's 🎉 moments ,one can imagine.
Congrats to Hinton on Nobel Prize , albeit I have to disagree with some of Hinton comment over the past year, I think his thinking like AI in 50 years rather then now. Beside that I think under Von Newman AI at most is an imitation, if we want AI like human or Cortana from Halo the game, at least closer to now we have to jump out of Von Newman
Alma matter of mine, while one of, UofT
Totally deserved imho. There is a reason the backprop paper was published in Nature. It was absolutely fundamental research in how information representations work and how these representations can be processed.
Congratulations🎉
Congratulations for Nobel Prize 2024 🙏🙏
Congratulations Sir!! ❤💐🙏🎉🙏💐❤
Congratulations🎉🎉
Question: Will Nobel Prize add new categories? 💡🙂 Been paying attention to Mr.Hinton after attending one of his conferences. Very happy for his achievement and seeing this as a bold message from the committee.
Legendary Adam Smith😂
Nobel price for a noble humsn being. Congrats professor.
Congratulations to Prof. Hinton, a hero of the AI era
Bravo !!!
Congratulations 🎉
It speaks volumes when a computer scientist wins Nobel prize in physics.
Computer science started as a branch of physics, its root is very much physics.
He certainly deserved it - but I can't see what physics has to do with it, frankly.
This is BS... Physics prize going to Computer Science?
Madame Marie Curie felt the same way when she got one Nobel prize for Physics and another one for Chemistry. She helped change the world.
Physics is no longer necessarily physical.
Professor Hinton's acceptance speech of the Nobel Prize 🏆 could present a moment of serious ethical questions on Artificial Intelligence and what actions need to happen
What is physics? That's the big question now
Amazing! A very proud moment for Canada and all Canadians
damnn chomsky caught that stray 😅😅😅
That posse of Swedish impersonators can now be generated thanks to AI 😂
Congratulation🎉
Many many congratulations to you sir
a statistician wins physics prize.
Congrats to Hinton, albeit I have to disagree with some of Hinton comment over the past year, I think his thinking like AI in 50 years rather then now. Alma matter of mine, while one of, UofT
Congrat sir
It would be great to add a new prize rather than giving someone who doesn't work in that field. If someone throws a logic that modern research needs a machine learning then every research paper must need some writing skill so why not you are giving a writer a science madel or any mathematician getting Nobel prize?
Congratulation Sir 💐
So happy for you! well deserved!
So much discouraging for physicists
Congratulations to Dr. Hinton!
how this relevant to the physics
How relevant is contemporary physics with all that dark matter and string theory stuff?
The Academy is right to give the prize to scientists who did work that really has a massive practical impact.
It's not... Hinton used some physics related concepts when he designed ANNs (Boltzmann Machines) so Nobel commity tried their best to make us convinced that AI is actually a contribution to physics.
Few people accepted their explanations, though. Yes, Hinton did use some physics concepts in ANNs. But nobel prize in physics belong to those who did a great contributions to *physics*.
Even half of those who support this award are not supporting it because they think Hinton's work is related to physics but because "there are no nobel awards for CS so it's only right to give Hinton a random nobel in another 'relevant' field!"
While this may seem more in the domain of computer science or artificial intelligence, these AI tools are increasingly used in physics to model intricate systems that are otherwise difficult to analyze using traditional methods.
Does computer science belong to physics?
Yes.
I am trying to congratulate Prof. Hinton several times but my comment gets deleted! Correction: it didn't. Thank you.
Its not , i can see it , many comments
@@Orange666-pac Yes I noticed that too.
Congratulations to Hinton for his noble in physics
this is not physics lol, do we credit the guy making a screwdriver witht the engineer who uses that screwdrivers inventions?
In case of the physics Nobel Prize - pretty often. To give the latest example, in 2018 they awarded the prize for the invention of optical tweezers.
@@bzqp2 thst is physics though. this is not. if it is do you also think that google should pay all their plumbers millions, after all, they are a cornerstone of their business, no engineer would go to work if their toilets were overflowing
Many congratulations to this fella!
congratulations sir Your discovery is the real achievement, not the reward for your extraordinary achievement. Now many problems will be solved for you to discover 😇😇
Computer scientists for the nobel prize in Physics?
Interesting 🇨🇱
Congratulations to Prof. Hinton. I'm feeling so happy for you and everyone there.
Lots of love
Mr. Singh 🇮🇳❤️
Rigtheously done. We humans are seiling on our Natural Little Blue Planet in space and time , all alone, and then nuclear weapons to Oblivium, no way, all the World States with the same Laws and Rules must live together in Harmony and Peace. Love Thei Neigbor. In G-D we Trust. Please, No nukes. No wars. Only Wars on Poverty. Good Nutrition to All the Children of the World, for a Better Future.
"I have always been convinced that the only way to get artificial intelligence to work is to do the computation in a way similar to the human brain. That is the goal I have been pursuing. We are making progress, though we still have lots to learn about how the brain actually works." - Geoffrey Hinton
An honor well deserved. Congratulations Sir.
Why so much debate in this? Technology is developed from the applied knowledge of Physics. Nobel prize was awarded to Noyce as well for the invention of the Integrated Circuit, so won’t that be considered as something related to Physics!! Me too a physics graduate, working in the VLSI domain as an engineer, physics is the foundation for technology development..
Very good! Instead of honoring the next string theory or particle physics phantasy crap, the Academy chose to honor scientists representing a field that really has made a deep practical impact to society. Thank you for chosing very deserving scientists this time!
There is no major breakthrough in physics lately ???
So well deserved. Could not be happier for Hinton.
He's not a physicist
Seems Nobel Prize need award Artificial Intelligence to prove it always track the best achievements of mankind, and artificial intelligence does not seem to need the honor from Stockholm to increase its own attention at present.
Physics is the science of nature so why is a mathematician awarded a prize in physics
Imagine believing that modern theoretical physics can be distinguished from mathematics or computer science.
You didn't ask why he needs an MRI.
Kind of private, it's considered a little impolite to ask on something that going to be public
If you must know, Hinton has publicly mentioned that he has had issues with back pain for a long time. He almost never sits down, which is perhaps part of the reason he has such a slender figure.
His MRI is none of your business!👎👎👎👎👎
Isnt that improper
Why would they ask him about something private?
He was totally prepared for this call?
Let’s goooo
"AI won't replace humans, person who using AI will"
Completely undeserved to the point of mass speculation on political intention.
nice!
If you flex enough, AI runs on computers, computers that work with electricity, and electricity is studied in physics...so yeah.... physics Nobel....
❤
Disappointing! This will create an international backlash! 😒
I deeply respect Geoffrey Hinton and the work he has done. But he shouldn't have been awarded the Nobel Prize in PHYSICS!
Why
Because he's a computer scientist who work is in the same field@@vandanasingh6062
@@vandanasingh6062 The criticism is that his area of expertise might not be considered 'pure' Physics.
@@vandanasingh6062 because it's not physics.
@@vandanasingh6062it's computer science and not science.
Fred‘s cousin
These danger/ethics concerns have become a PR talking point.
Really?
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
nice
In the end, physiCS is computer science.
Hlo...
Congratulations for india .