Pretty much lol. What the hell is an enthusiast he keeps referring to. It’s like they’re scared of upsetting the ice fans. I have a manual porsche GT car for the weekend but daily the model y p. For the performance and price it’s really hard to overlook. It’s amazing at everything so yeah “too good”.
@@koruki Sorry, I can't see your point through the strawmanning. The score was higher for this than the latest 911 range review by Carsguide so I guess they think it's pretty good. The use of "too good" in the video was made in relation to what some enthusiasts may prefer in a car and not the majority of buyers, nor was it a slight on the Tesla. These enthusiasts may find the Tesla perhaps too clinical and not requiring any skill to drive fast or to extract performance, too boring? they may prefer more challenging drives or more characterful cars, flaws often being associated with character. Just like some enthusiasts prefer manuals and some enthusiasts prefer automatics. To have a different preference is not wrong. Not everything is about EV vs ICE, I suggest "scared of upsetting the ice fans" fans is a far stretch and out of touch.
@@damo5701 what was the conclusion. It might be too good for enthusiast. What does that even mean. He constantly refers to these “enthusiasts” which is likely self proclaimed car guys who think ev’s are here to steal their precious combustion car. As for the 911, it better rank better than a $200k little car that can hardly fit a broom
@@korukiHe's talking about a small cohort of enthusiasts, not all and not even a majority. I can certainly understand some enthusiasts not liking this Tesla as it asks nothing of the driver, it's talents are so good that anyone including your granny can hop in and go fast, the driver and their skills are almost superfluous. That despite the prodigious performance and undoubted ability it may leave some drivers cold. I have heard this sentiment expressed about some ice performance vehicles in the past so I don't think it's an ev hating thing. With a manual Porsche, I would have bet you understood involvement.
Failed to mention that most controls can be changed by voice command by pressing the button on the steering wheel. All controls like temp, songs, nav, heated seats, wipers, open the truck, glovebox and practically everthing is one touch. If you're plowing through menus while driving you're doing it wrong but then again there's autopilot.
The reality is that not EVERYTHING is controlled by the centre console. Music volume, track skip, cruise control speed, and distance to the front car are all controlled by the steering wheel scroll wheels. Failing that you can use voice control which is also controlled by the steering wheel scrolls. It's no big distraction to read the speed in the centre console. It's just a simple car to drive.
Depends of course on what constitutes a big distraction. Since i switched to cars with a head up display i realised how much safer it was to keep your eyes at the windscreen instead of looking down. And this is arguably even worse. I just wish Elon would drop his opposition to head up display.
I have a Model 3 & rarely look at the speedo as I use autopilot everywhere but a HUD would be good. That awful wood grain is easily covered up with aftermarket carbon fibre covers. One foot driving is awesome rarely using the brake. The omission of Apple car play or android auto is not missed due to inbuilt apps. The biggest own goal is the voice controls simply don’t work with an Aussie accent. I haven’t paid for charging in 3 months of ownership using home solar. Performance of all variants is impressive.
Nice vid, could feel your overall enjoyment. You have totally neglected to consider “voice control” for controls, which is excellent. NB FSDriving is restricted by the individual states and mainly around consistently having to hold onto the wheel. Battery is 8 years warranty.
long range with boost upgrade is the way to go in my opinion. 4.2 secs to highway speed and save about $15k. the sound system in these teslas are fantastic and since you have no engine noise you can really enjoy your music.
I have both the 3 and Y performance versions. The Y Performance was $42,000 with tow hitch added. The price difference was $3,500 to step up to the Performance from the dual motor. It seemed like a better deal than buying the boost. I would have purchased the rear spoiler and larger wheels eventually. The Performance is slightly faster than the dual motor with the boost and also has the track package and lower suspension. My Model 3 Performance has Mountain Pass coil overs and zero g wheels. The handling is much better now. I may change the Y suspension out as well next year.
I’ll admit to being slightly confused by the lack of energy and excitement in a video entitled “ludicrous performance”. Would be nice to see what the car is capable of - but it seems sterile and lacking in driver engagement. I’m sure folk will jump on here to explain that’s not true and how fun to drive it is - but this didn’t come across in the video for me.
Wow 4 years and 80,000K's warranty on certain parts of the car, doesnt show confidence in how long its going to last. Though Australian consumer law might give you some extra protection.
Ok, so you mention that the charging speed can go up to 250 kw but show it charging at a much slower 50 kw charger. Would have been nice to see it charging at a Tesla supercharger instead.
The base one is 90k but add in some wanted features and not long before you are up to 130k. I'm a porsche guy and after driving one of these I could not justify getting a porsche. I'd go for the Y long range for 88k,still does 0 to 100 in 5 secs!
Bummer it’s so much more expensive than the LRY in Australia - in the USA it’s $4k more and upgrading the wheels from 19 to 20 is $2,000 of that. Sure the LR Y is fast enough and the 19s are going to be more comfortable with larger range. But for my money I got the performance as you only live once and there will be more smiles over the miles! (And both models now qualify for the same tax incentive)
As a regular viewer, I feel all Aussie motoring journalists need to eat humble pie after critiquing pretty much every other vehicle that features a touch screen interface to access certain vehicle functions; namely HVAC controls and radio operation. This Tesla relies entirely on its central screen. Even current speed. Tell me that's not a dangerous feature!!
I agree . In a country where touching your mobile phone whilst driving for a millisecond can get you a fine and or driving ban , it’s suddenly ok to be sat in front of and be a slave to a touch screen in a Tesla . Seems like double standards to me .
The truth is that not everything is controlled by the centre screen. The presenter failed to mention that the scroll wheels on the steering wheel control many features as well as the steering wheel stalks. Then there's the voice control as well. These are all conveniently not disclosed
Been out for 6 years and ranked safest car in the world. The temp controls are in a constant position just like a button. The voice control can change temp and fan speeds. The climate control can be set to auto so the fan speeds change based on set temp. Same for all the music. Vol and skip etc al control with real dials on the steering wheel.
$40,000+ difference between RWD and Performance if you use the novated lease method, reduced 'performance breaks'. Just couldnt justify the difference.. You could buy 2 MY RWD on Novated lease for the same cost!
It’s more like 33k suggest you go watch Tesla Tom’s video at ludicrous feeds. He ordered a Model Y P but decided to cancel and get RWD because of the value chasm. It’s a good watch if uming and ahing
This is a horrible review as this guy is supposed to know ALL the features of the vehicle if you are a real automotive journalist reviewing a product. I own this vehicle. Mine is a 2022. This guy complains about having to use the screen, but if he did his homework he would have know that you hardly EVER have to use the main console because the voice commands in Tesla software is really that good. See for yourself. There are plenty of videos on RUclips about Tesla voice commands. I can even issue commands from my Apple Watch with the STATS app. The seats are great. 20K miles in and they still look new and they are white. I wish these people would take the time to learn everything about the vehicles they review before making videos.
Define dated design. Its got very efficient aero, state of the art manufacturing that legacy manufacturers can only dream of, allowing it to excel in crash tests, gets regular OTA software enhancements and new features, carplay and android are redundant due its inbuilt nav capabilities. Absence of dash cluster means you see the road very close to front of the car and the speed is easily visible, look at the video. What more do you need? V2L is a gimmick at this time, unless you want to pull over and boil your kettle and if your house is plugged in what happens if you need to drive. Tesla make a product called a powerwall that integrates with your house and ev via the excellent app.
I've got a new Jimny and a Model 3 and I much prefer the Model 3 system compared to my Jimny's carplay. I've never needed V2L my entire life but I do agree about the HUD, that would be useful.
Did you reduce your overall score because the car is "too good"?
Pretty much lol. What the hell is an enthusiast he keeps referring to. It’s like they’re scared of upsetting the ice fans. I have a manual porsche GT car for the weekend but daily the model y p. For the performance and price it’s really hard to overlook. It’s amazing at everything so yeah “too good”.
@@koruki spot on. they really hold back because they know they will upset the diehard petrol heads
@@koruki Sorry, I can't see your point through the strawmanning. The score was higher for this than the latest 911 range review by Carsguide so I guess they think it's pretty good.
The use of "too good" in the video was made in relation to what some enthusiasts may prefer in a car and not the majority of buyers, nor was it a slight on the Tesla. These enthusiasts may find the Tesla perhaps too clinical and not requiring any skill to drive fast or to extract performance, too boring? they may prefer more challenging drives or more characterful cars, flaws often being associated with character. Just like some enthusiasts prefer manuals and some enthusiasts prefer automatics. To have a different preference is not wrong. Not everything is about EV vs ICE, I suggest "scared of upsetting the ice fans" fans is a far stretch and out of touch.
@@damo5701 what was the conclusion. It might be too good for enthusiast. What does that even mean. He constantly refers to these “enthusiasts” which is likely self proclaimed car guys who think ev’s are here to steal their precious combustion car. As for the 911, it better rank better than a $200k little car that can hardly fit a broom
@@korukiHe's talking about a small cohort of enthusiasts, not all and not even a majority. I can certainly understand some enthusiasts not liking this Tesla as it asks nothing of the driver, it's talents are so good that anyone including your granny can hop in and go fast, the driver and their skills are almost superfluous.
That despite the prodigious performance and undoubted ability it may leave some drivers cold. I have heard this sentiment expressed about some ice performance vehicles in the past so I don't think it's an ev hating thing. With a manual Porsche, I would have bet you understood involvement.
Failed to mention that most controls can be changed by voice command by pressing the button on the steering wheel. All controls like temp, songs, nav, heated seats, wipers, open the truck, glovebox and practically everthing is one touch. If you're plowing through menus while driving you're doing it wrong but then again there's autopilot.
Exactly lol was thinking the same thing calling him a dumbass when he was knocking the audio command.
The reality is that not EVERYTHING is controlled by the centre console. Music volume, track skip, cruise control speed, and distance to the front car are all controlled by the steering wheel scroll wheels. Failing that you can use voice control which is also controlled by the steering wheel scrolls. It's no big distraction to read the speed in the centre console. It's just a simple car to drive.
What about vitals , such as lights , wipers , hazard lights , are they controlled via the screen .?
@@davidcartwright5591 Lights are automatically engaged and there's a button on the stalk for the wipers. There's also a button for the hazard lights
Depends of course on what constitutes a big distraction. Since i switched to cars with a head up display i realised how much safer it was to keep your eyes at the windscreen instead of looking down. And this is arguably even worse. I just wish Elon would drop his opposition to head up display.
I have a Model 3 & rarely look at the speedo as I use autopilot everywhere but a HUD would be good. That awful wood grain is easily covered up with aftermarket carbon fibre covers. One foot driving is awesome rarely using the brake. The omission of Apple car play or android auto is not missed due to inbuilt apps. The biggest own goal is the voice controls simply don’t work with an Aussie accent. I haven’t paid for charging in 3 months of ownership using home solar. Performance of all variants is impressive.
I have the performance and i love the power, its a killer vehicle.
Voice control solves your issues with the screen. Why does every Tesla review forget to talk about the voice control functions??
Average review. Just trying to not upset the ICE fans as usual.
Nice vid, could feel your overall enjoyment.
You have totally neglected to consider “voice control” for controls, which is excellent.
NB FSDriving is restricted by the individual states and mainly around consistently having to hold onto the wheel.
Battery is 8 years warranty.
Interesting this car has Pirelli tyres. Other regions seem to be reliever with Michelins.
long range with boost upgrade is the way to go in my opinion. 4.2 secs to highway speed and save about $15k. the sound system in these teslas are fantastic and since you have no engine noise you can really enjoy your music.
I have both the 3 and Y performance versions. The Y Performance was $42,000 with tow hitch added. The price difference was $3,500 to step up to the Performance from the dual motor. It seemed like a better deal than buying the boost. I would have purchased the rear spoiler and larger wheels eventually. The Performance is slightly faster than the dual motor with the boost and also has the track package and lower suspension. My Model 3 Performance has Mountain Pass coil overs and zero g wheels. The handling is much better now. I may change the Y suspension out as well next year.
I’ll admit to being slightly confused by the lack of energy and excitement in a video entitled “ludicrous performance”.
Would be nice to see what the car is capable of - but it seems sterile and lacking in driver engagement. I’m sure folk will jump on here to explain that’s not true and how fun to drive it is - but this didn’t come across in the video for me.
Wow 4 years and 80,000K's warranty on certain parts of the car, doesnt show confidence in how long its going to last. Though Australian consumer law might give you some extra protection.
The battery and drive unit is 8 years or 200,000 kms
Articulate and informative… thank you…
Lol. Australia gets the worst versions of everything. Thank God I don't live there anymore.
CarsGuide, need to do a better job on the facts, really!!! FSD, Warrant, Driving dynamics (DSC). Do your homework.
Suspension is terrible on the freeway..just bought a model y two days ago 😢
Ok, so you mention that the charging speed can go up to 250 kw but show it charging at a much slower 50 kw charger. Would have been nice to see it charging at a Tesla supercharger instead.
Can't alot of stuff be activated using voice command, heating, wipers etc
Yes but it has good auto wipers, auto lights including high beam and climate including seat and steering wheel heat.
@@feetup-jf7kq exactly, most of the “things i want button for” are all automatic anyway
😂😂😂100k??? I can get a beautiful Porsche Macan for that with change...why would I spend that kind of $$$
The base one is 90k but add in some wanted features and not long before you are up to 130k. I'm a porsche guy and after driving one of these I could not justify getting a porsche.
I'd go for the Y long range for 88k,still does 0 to 100 in 5 secs!
Because the Macan is tooooo sloooooow. MY Performance here. Also a 2016 981 Spyder shares my garage.
Its super easy to master the Tesla UI .
With the power of this car stick with Sport mode steering
Too good ? I would take that criticism any day. Lol 😊. For me it is The perfect driving machine.
Good vid
Bummer it’s so much more expensive than the LRY in Australia - in the USA it’s $4k more and upgrading the wheels from 19 to 20 is $2,000 of that. Sure the LR Y is fast enough and the 19s are going to be more comfortable with larger range. But for my money I got the performance as you only live once and there will be more smiles over the miles! (And both models now qualify for the same tax incentive)
“Vegan leather”, do you vinyl?
love the car
As a regular viewer, I feel all Aussie motoring journalists need to eat humble pie after critiquing pretty much every other vehicle that features a touch screen interface to access certain vehicle functions; namely HVAC controls and radio operation. This Tesla relies entirely on its central screen. Even current speed. Tell me that's not a dangerous feature!!
I agree . In a country where touching your mobile phone whilst driving for a millisecond can get you a fine and or driving ban , it’s suddenly ok to be sat in front of and be a slave to a touch screen in a Tesla . Seems like double standards to me .
The truth is that not everything is controlled by the centre screen. The presenter failed to mention that the scroll wheels on the steering wheel control many features as well as the steering wheel stalks. Then there's the voice control as well. These are all conveniently not disclosed
Been out for 6 years and ranked safest car in the world. The temp controls are in a constant position just like a button. The voice control can change temp and fan speeds. The climate control can be set to auto so the fan speeds change based on set temp. Same for all the music. Vol and skip etc al control with real dials on the steering wheel.
$40,000+ difference between RWD and Performance if you use the novated lease method, reduced 'performance breaks'. Just couldnt justify the difference.. You could buy 2 MY RWD on Novated lease for the same cost!
It’s more like 33k suggest you go watch Tesla Tom’s video at ludicrous feeds. He ordered a Model Y P but decided to cancel and get RWD because of the value chasm. It’s a good watch if uming and ahing
@@TheMelbournelad 33k is if cash. 40k if you use novated lease. Ive got quotes for both. :)
@@snip3d oh so the extra 7000s, because of Maintenance and all the other stuff they put aside for a novated lease
@@TheMelbournelad no - vehicle only. RWD is 100% FBT free, performance is not. Repayments and cash in your pocket are significantly different.
@@snip3d oh right I remember now as capped at luxury tax figure. Forgot about that
This is a horrible review as this guy is supposed to know ALL the features of the vehicle if you are a real automotive journalist reviewing a product. I own this vehicle. Mine is a 2022. This guy complains about having to use the screen, but if he did his homework he would have know that you hardly EVER have to use the main console because the voice commands in Tesla software is really that good. See for yourself. There are plenty of videos on RUclips about Tesla voice commands. I can even issue commands from my Apple Watch with the STATS app. The seats are great. 20K miles in and they still look new and they are white. I wish these people would take the time to learn everything about the vehicles they review before making videos.
Tesla needs to introduce the 7 seater version to Australia 😢
hell no, that third row would only be good if you had your legs amputated
Why are they so ugly & bland looking , poor colour selection or finish . If Mazda can do it why can't Tesla
the blue is fantastic
Seriously not worth the money
Have you driven one? If not, nothing like having an informed opinion.
Very dated design. No vehicle to load (V2L) No Apple Carplay, Android Auto, no dash cluster, no heads Up display
Define dated design. Its got very efficient aero, state of the art manufacturing that legacy manufacturers can only dream of, allowing it to excel in crash tests, gets regular OTA software enhancements and new features, carplay and android are redundant due its inbuilt nav capabilities. Absence of dash cluster means you see the road very close to front of the car and the speed is easily visible, look at the video. What more do you need?
V2L is a gimmick at this time, unless you want to pull over and boil your kettle and if your house is plugged in what happens if you need to drive. Tesla make a product called a powerwall that integrates with your house and ev via the excellent app.
No parking sensors
No parking sensors
@@cheesun124 You can easily see parking sensors on the car.
I've got a new Jimny and a Model 3 and I much prefer the Model 3 system compared to my Jimny's carplay. I've never needed V2L my entire life but I do agree about the HUD, that would be useful.
What , vinyl seat trims on a $100K + car .. call it what you like , vegan leather or whatever , but we all know that’s fancy talk for vinyl .
Even Mercedes is vinyl til you hit $150k plus for a slower car then $220k to get one as fast with fancy leather.
@@koruki . Well I’m a tight arse , so I’ll stick to fabric seats 😀
@@davidcartwright5591 I actually love fabric seats lol 😆