Reason this channel is under rated because, it takes time for humans to digest and understand great things. Content on this channel is priceless. Wish you all the best because you are one of the best.
no songwriting channel touches this one - teaching generalizable strategies for something as abstract / overtly emotional as lyrical composition, without ever being overly formulaic, is no small task - and you deliver again & again.
As a non-native English speaker, I'm watching the third time on the family rhyme part and definitely going to replay it more =))))) You're amazing and your voice is so calming btw. Thank you for your contents, I really dig them.
this is seriously amazing, i have been searching for this information for so long, if you put all of this together into a masterclass, you would be a billionare. This information is incredible. I just spent 3 hours watching your channel.
Bravo! What makes this video special is that Tony explains how to use this tool better than some of the best selling authors like Pat Pattison and Andrea Stolpe.
I've been writing and speaking in rhyme for so long that I'm hard-pressed to guess when I first began. I have work of my own dating back to the 70s; it was a bit cheesy and lacked the sophistication of more recent work, but the budding talent is evident in it. A talented guitarist used one of my pieces or work, back in the early 80s for a song (non-published) which he recently shared with me when our life paths crossed after nearly 40 years. This past year I determined to really up my game (hone my talent) after a decades-long dry spell, as as I now want to craft up song lyrics I'm pleased to come across this series of videos. In the Katy Perry example used herein under assonance rhymes, to my understanding, the writer actually used a perfect rhyme:, unless there is another term for every other line ending with a perfect rhyme wording. (I use this within nearly all my work) "You just gotta ignite the "light" And let it shine Just own the "night" Like the fourth of July
Dang this is insanely clear and helpful. As someone from a prose writing background who’s getting into songwriting, I couldn’t get my lyrics to BUILD UP or transition into other parts - everything just felt monotone and now I realize it’s probably cuz I was sticking to perfect or near perfect rhymes rather than mixing them up based on the song section. Thanks for this!
Thanks for sharing the video and your thoughts. This was very insightful and helpful for beginner/intermediate songwriters. However I think it’s important to mention for aspiring artist the full truth of lyric writing. Avril Lavigne rhymes “Skater boy” with “Later Boy” all though she is using “Boy” in both lines the rhyme is actually in “skater and later” while boy acts as an ad-lib. Likewise with Drake he is not rhyming the word “me” with itself but rather using me as an ad-lib. He is actually rhyming “trouble with struggle and cuddle” and he is modifying the vowel of loving’ by opening it up to a open vowel (Instead of loving he is say L”ah”ving”) Further more “miss is rhyming with wish and live (outlive) which rhymes with dif (different). These are called “near rhymes” or “close rhymes” and can be done via vowel modification. I hope this helps others 😊
Loving all of this! 5:40 I would argue "g" doesn't fit in there. It's voiced plosive (all the others are unvoiced). The unvoiced sibling of "g" is "ch" or "tch". That fits in better.
Thanks for the video! I eat this stuff up. I do think the Billie Eilish example you have with "type" and "tight" is technically identity rhyme because both start with the same "t" consonant. There is no "difference" moving into "sameness" (Pat Pattison's definition). In your additive example with "feel" and "healing", I think that's more trailing rhyme since it adds a whole other syllable at the end. That makes it a "masculine" word rhyming with a "feminine" word. I typically think of (masculine) additive rhyme for "feel" to result in -> shield/sealed/wield/even-keeled. Also, I believe "night" and "July" is subtractive rhyme and not consonance rhyme. Pretty sure consonance requires the consonants at the end to be the same, with differing vowel sounds.
Hi Tony personally I have horrible memories from the kids terrorizing with the annoying orange so I'd rather not think about any rhyme with them in lol Hope you're well and staying safe. x
love these tips, got a little confuse with 8:00 rhyme example: because it looked as though the rhyming words were 'light' and 'night' and 'shine' and 'july' (ae - sound in 'shine' and july') But I do wish you had these tips in some kind of pdf so I could print them out. I would purchase them. 🙌🏾
@@SongWritersChopShop yes brother 🙌 it's super useful I really need to know how to know which tone goes well with the keys in the instrumental so I can sound like a pro also know where to put the syllables on point with the right pitch please you have a video on this
Gotta your better than half the people giving advice on youtube like so glad i found your channel anf you a have great sense of humor which is good as it's not all serious, keep it up getting us through these unprecedented times👍👍 also please do an analysis of Kurt cobain, Dylan and a few country artists as they get snubbed alot and not respected enough imo
Cheers Michael, really appreciate that. Glad to hear you got some value for it. No problem doing some stuff on Cobain and Dylan. If you have any suggestions on country artists, let me know. (I'm not very familiar with that genre tbh, but happy to take requests)
@@SongWritersChopShop No worries mate, I'd suggest looking at Dolly Parton, Johnny cash, Hank Williams and Woody Guthrie bit particuarly Dolly Parton. It means then you can use the other 3 as a reference poiny. Hope this helps, also I would love to see what you think of my own originals not atm I will need to have 3 finished songs fully 😂😂. But If I could have your email and send them over to you if you would be up for that👍👍
@@michaelbrindley5236 Great idea mate, Dolly has written some classics in her time. Johnny Cash would be really interesting too. It might take me a couple of weeks but I'll definitely add it to the to-do list of vids. Just email me at 'tony@songwriterschopshop.com' , I'd be happy to have a listen. Cheers for the feedback, I really appreciate it.
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How many rhymes can you come up with for the word 'Orange'?
Does porridge count
@@zakwellish6899 yep, sure does.
@@SongWritersChopShop I went down to the storage and saw an orange hanged by the door hinge
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Reason this channel is under rated because, it takes time for humans to digest and understand great things. Content on this channel is priceless. Wish you all the best because you are one of the best.
cheers crazyflow, really appreciate that.
no songwriting channel touches this one - teaching generalizable strategies for something as abstract / overtly emotional as lyrical composition, without ever being overly formulaic, is no small task - and you deliver again & again.
Cheers datadream, really appreciate that 👍
As a non-native English speaker, I'm watching the third time on the family rhyme part and definitely going to replay it more =))))) You're amazing and your voice is so calming btw. Thank you for your contents, I really dig them.
That rhyming trick is amazing!
Cheers Abhishek, I'm really happy you got some value from it.
this is seriously amazing, i have been searching for this information for so long, if you put all of this together into a masterclass, you would be a billionare. This information is incredible. I just spent 3 hours watching your channel.
Cheers Klaus, I really appreciate that. Great to hear you're getting value from it.👍
Bravo! What makes this video special is that Tony explains how to use this tool better than some of the best selling authors like Pat Pattison and Andrea Stolpe.
High praise indeed. Really appreciate it. Glad you're getting value form it.
I just realised I've watched this video about 7 times now since you uploaded it, its so helpful. Chop Shop!
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Shared this video today with all of the members of MN Association of Songwriters. Great explanation.
Thanks Chad, I really appreciate that. Hope they get some value from it.
I've been writing and speaking in rhyme for so long that I'm hard-pressed to guess when I first began. I have work of my own dating back to the 70s; it was a bit cheesy and lacked the sophistication of more recent work, but the budding talent is evident in it. A talented guitarist used one of my pieces or work, back in the early 80s for a song (non-published) which he recently shared with me when our life paths crossed after nearly 40 years.
This past year I determined to really up my game (hone my talent) after a decades-long dry spell, as as I now want to craft up song lyrics I'm pleased to come across this series of videos.
In the Katy Perry example used herein under assonance rhymes, to my understanding, the writer actually used a perfect rhyme:, unless there is another term for every other line ending with a perfect rhyme wording. (I use this within nearly all my work)
"You just gotta ignite the "light"
And let it shine
Just own the "night"
Like the fourth of July
Hey, this video on rhyme actually ADDED something to my understanding!
Great to hear Anna. 😂
Dang this is insanely clear and helpful. As someone from a prose writing background who’s getting into songwriting, I couldn’t get my lyrics to BUILD UP or transition into other parts - everything just felt monotone and now I realize it’s probably cuz I was sticking to perfect or near perfect rhymes rather than mixing them up based on the song section. Thanks for this!
1:07 Wanna Be Startin’ Something comes to mind
you have changed my my song lyrics styles for ever
Cheers innocent, great ti hear you got some value from it.
Thank you. I had no idea. Making perfect rhymes on any subject comes extremely easy to me. Now I've gotta rein myself in.
Thanks it was quite helpful
No worries Zak, glad you got some value from it.
I love your channel. I've been writing songs for many years, but am always looking to improve. Thank you. And btw "Chop Shop" :-)
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What a great channel. Thank you
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Mind blown!!! This channel is freaking awesome! Thanks SO much!!!
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Nice one Klapek.
Super helpful! Thanks so much
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I was looking for a way to improve my song writing and I'm learning so much from you! This really helps a lot thank you!
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I just started writing songs and this channel really helped me produce some great content
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Cheers DD
Thanks for sharing the video and your thoughts. This was very insightful and helpful for beginner/intermediate songwriters.
However I think it’s important to mention for aspiring artist the full truth of lyric writing. Avril Lavigne rhymes “Skater boy” with “Later Boy” all though she is using “Boy” in both lines the rhyme is actually in “skater and later” while boy acts as an ad-lib.
Likewise with Drake he is not rhyming the word “me” with itself but rather using me as an ad-lib. He is actually rhyming “trouble with struggle and cuddle” and he is modifying the vowel of loving’ by opening it up to a open vowel (Instead of loving he is say L”ah”ving”) Further more “miss is rhyming with wish and live (outlive) which rhymes with dif (different). These are called “near rhymes” or “close rhymes” and can be done via vowel modification.
I hope this helps others 😊
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Cheers Carl, great to hear you're getting value from it.
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More people should know!
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Loving all of this! 5:40 I would argue "g" doesn't fit in there. It's voiced plosive (all the others are unvoiced). The unvoiced sibling of "g" is "ch" or "tch". That fits in better.
binging your vids rn cheers m8🐐
Thanks for the video! I eat this stuff up.
I do think the Billie Eilish example you have with "type" and "tight" is technically identity rhyme because both start with the same "t" consonant. There is no "difference" moving into "sameness" (Pat Pattison's definition).
In your additive example with "feel" and "healing", I think that's more trailing rhyme since it adds a whole other syllable at the end. That makes it a "masculine" word rhyming with a "feminine" word. I typically think of (masculine) additive rhyme for "feel" to result in -> shield/sealed/wield/even-keeled.
Also, I believe "night" and "July" is subtractive rhyme and not consonance rhyme. Pretty sure consonance requires the consonants at the end to be the same, with differing vowel sounds.
Hi Tony personally I have horrible memories from the kids terrorizing with the annoying orange so I'd rather not think about any rhyme with them in lol Hope you're well and staying safe. x
I hate to think of anyone being terrorized by such a great source of vitamin c! All good here Dawn, hope you are doing well.
i value your channel a lot never stop making content
Plenty more to come T 👍👍
love these tips, got a little confuse with 8:00 rhyme example: because it looked as though the rhyming words were 'light' and 'night' and 'shine' and 'july' (ae - sound in 'shine' and july')
But I do wish you had these tips in some kind of pdf so I could print them out. I would purchase them. 🙌🏾
Even after so long you still deserve my subscription and comments also my like I love these contents that are really helpful
cheers Mafia, I really appreciate that. glad you're finding it helpful.👍
@@SongWritersChopShop yes brother 🙌 it's super useful I really need to know how to know which tone goes well with the keys in the instrumental so I can sound like a pro also know where to put the syllables on point with the right pitch please you have a video on this
It’s helping
Great to hear Bryson👍
Gotta your better than half the people giving advice on youtube like so glad i found your channel anf you a have great sense of humor which is good as it's not all serious, keep it up getting us through these unprecedented times👍👍 also please do an analysis of Kurt cobain, Dylan and a few country artists as they get snubbed alot and not respected enough imo
Cheers Michael, really appreciate that. Glad to hear you got some value for it. No problem doing some stuff on Cobain and Dylan. If you have any suggestions on country artists, let me know. (I'm not very familiar with that genre tbh, but happy to take requests)
@@SongWritersChopShop No worries mate, I'd suggest looking at Dolly Parton, Johnny cash, Hank Williams and Woody Guthrie bit particuarly Dolly Parton. It means then you can use the other 3 as a reference poiny. Hope this helps, also I would love to see what you think of my own originals not atm I will need to have 3 finished songs fully 😂😂. But If I could have your email and send them over to you if you would be up for that👍👍
@@michaelbrindley5236 Great idea mate, Dolly has written some classics in her time. Johnny Cash would be really interesting too. It might take me a couple of weeks but I'll definitely add it to the to-do list of vids. Just email me at 'tony@songwriterschopshop.com' , I'd be happy to have a listen. Cheers for the feedback, I really appreciate it.
Chop shop!
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Is there a possibility to work with you for an artist maybe ?
I'm here because I don't want to rely on drugs to make dope rap lyrics. I want to just build up my writing skills and create purposefully great masterpieces that were not accidents or given by a drugs influence.
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Hey !!
Is it possible that sometimes it just doesn't rhyme?
yep, no rules only tools.
@@SongWritersChopShop Thanks man !
That's be awesome if you could analyse rhyme schemes and rhyme types of songs !
@ will do.
@@SongWritersChopShop Awesome, really looking forward to it !!! :D
@ No worries Zamm. Any songs, in particular, you'd like me to go over?
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