EPISODE 410 | Carl on Cyril Ramaphosa, Jacob Zuma, ANC, Prison, State Capture , White Monopoly
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This is arguably one of the best political podcast episodes I've ever watched. Just facts, no feelings, no contradictions..Just a man speaking the harsh reality of South Africa and how we got here. This has changed my perception of Carl. Big up gents, the country needed this more than they know
I was about to say the same. I don't even like Carl but I enjoyed listening to him.
I have news for you most politicians especially from the era that he comes speak very eloquently. They all know very well what needs to be done but they choose not to do it. Karl needed an interview with someone who has a bit of political background. This is why it is said the policies of the ANC are amongst the best in the world. If you look at their policy document you will understand that he said nothing special or new. Example he speaks of Hani speaking about comrades who will drive mercs, what vehicle does Karl drive? A V class merc 🤷🏾♂️.
dude I mean the thing about State Capture I saw it and I am glad that he is taking it out there for the world to know
@@minenhlemabaso2234 merc didn't mean c class or a class that everyone can afford, wake up
Me too bro I always hear him making noise in the media and not take him seriously but today I'm humbled.
This interview is probably the most important interview that South Africa needs !!!!
Never, these people know South Africans do not read & can lie without accountability questions. He is lying, BEEE was challenged in court and found to be unlawful, Zuma received $35 000 for years till he was deputy president from the company that won the tender for arms deal, the head of intelligence tasked to put the deal together was Shabir Shaik brother Piby Shaik Zuma friend who died & Shabir took over his connections, used Piby to influence the government to award the company that was going to bribe Zuma the arms deal zuma is trialed with that company not alone.
If you enjoy BS, I tend to agree…
Mac g should just stick to entertainment cause politics requires someone who does their research properly.
This man speaks very very well and clearly ,it’s very easy to listen to him and to understand what he’s saying …🎉
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I've been following Carl for years i get amazed on how the mefia potray him. The way this man writes his a great writer and story teller because of media trying to pour cold water on him, people are not aware of him.
He is bringing the light to the issues that have been covered and made us believe that they are bad but they are not
Mac G is changing South Africa for the better one podcast at a time❤🔥
I won't forgive myself for letting the media and some cANCer cadres tell me who is Carl Niehaus. He is such a blessing to the nation, even though he is not being appreciated.Thanks to podcast and chill for bringing this massive think tank and a gallant fighter. Great interview overall
Carl is a wise activist who is underrated in our country. We must protect this man at all cost
I only see as him as a president of anc .
I don't think he is or was underrated. He was always chilling at the back ground
When Carl is given a platform he makes a lot of sense...mainstream media always tries to make him look crazy
Exactly and everything he’s saying actually makes so much sense
of course he sounds crazy when he’s a zuma apologist
Facts!
True🤞
Exactly, mainstream media are in protection of white supremacy
I was reluctant to watch this interview thinking it's going to be crazy Carl because that is how he media has portrayed him to be. Thanks so much gents, I wouldn't have known what I know now without this podcast.
I wish my peers were aware of the importance of this interview, the knowledge and history of this episode 🤯👏👏👏👏🔥🔥🔥🔥
lets share it and spread it
They won't care for it. Its 1 heck of an interview
I thought by this time I will be asleep and here I am wide awake because of the wisdom Carl is sharing.
Corruption has no race...kudos to this Legend🔥🔥🔥
This guy is a black man in a white skin 😍😍😍♥️❤️👌I pray God saves him for Africans. He really understands our Suffering
20 min into the episode and my perspective on carl is changing. Media has always portrayed him as "Zuma's puppet" but I'm seeing a different side of him. Shout out to macg and the team for the episode
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Lol...Mxim. He is a Zuma puppet!
@@lubabalomangona1308 chest pains 😂😂
What a puppet lol.. The new Chester Missing with Zuma's hand up his ass
😂 😂 😂 But he is a Zuma Puppet
I'm a Namibian 🇳🇦 Chiller.
This is the most important interview
"it was sanity in a world of insanity" - Carl's description of how he felt being anti-apartheid back then is spot on. Damn.
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That line for me was the best.
One of the most and best interviews not only for the podcast but for a Transforming and developing country SA it is. Respect Beyond measure to Carl✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽
Next week we need Brian Molefe and Matshela Koko two in one, two and half hour episode. Azisheee
Please Koko and Molefe are needed in this podcast
That one can even go 3hrs
Add Adil Nchaneleng there
Bra Carl, I underestimated u all along., but after this interview I've understand & learn a lot from u.. I salute you
Wow ,for the first time for me to hear a politician being careful when talking about Tata Mandela …”I would be very careful and wouldn’t want to judge Nelson harshly ,maybe if judge those that were around him ,imagine coming from prison after 26 years and you have to integrate the world that you don’t even know “..ai 🙌🙌🙌👊🏽 power
Nelson Mandela died in jail 40 years ago, the Vatican made 2 trannie clones, she died now in '22 God's says there was a wax doll in the coffin, Rampies is a transhuman clone, wired from head to toes CIA actor. God says He is taking back SA very soon for His chosen nation and bringing apartheid back, it means Holy, Amen, all praise to Yahweh.
At the age of 80, it was hard for Tata, I still respect the little he goy us. We control police and military, what's stopping us from taking land? Instead we complain about a person who fought during the hardest time. I loved Carl's response
I've always said this
They played number on us by giving us an elderly ex con to lead a nation. It's crazy when you think about it
We don't always need the jokes and puns,
an honest open conversations is so Refreshing.
I don't drink, smoke weed, or any drug but I'm addicted to this podcast for days🥳
i smoke weed while watching this podcast, that's my addiction
It's eddictive 🤞
Same here 🤗
I'm always high
@@peteshortz 😹😹😹😹double addiction
This interview is the most important interview . I wish every South African would listen to this.
Carl is a true South African, I had the pleasure of meeting him at the late Zulu kings birthday ( kwaNongoma). Carl is deeply rooted into the ANC culture, he bravely stood against the disbanding of the Ngonyama Trust in front of thousands
Personally i think we as a countrywe needed this conversation, thanks to the Guest, thanks to The Podcast & Chill team for making this happen.
The media assassinated the character of this revolutionary long ago, bring it back Mac G. I now respect Mr Carl 🙌🏾
We need Brian Molefe to also come on the show ... let's hear his side of the story
Absolutely!
I fully agree
Yes please, including Matshela Koko
This guy has never been crazy as he has been painted.
I hope Mr Carl is still alive next year 😭😭😭 he revealed too much
We only need 12 men of Carl's calibre to change the status quo of South Africa 🇿🇦
This is good, keep expanding the spectrum of the types of guest we get on the show I love it👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
You know it cuts deep when a guest has got Macg's full attention without any conflict and interruption during the podcast.
Honestly thought this interview would be boring yet here I am still enjoying every second. 🔥🔥
You and I both. I cant get my eyes off the screen now
Never judge a book by its suit 😂😂 cover. Same here
Me4
It shows you really dont understand the politics of south africa
@nathi we assuming that you wrote the constitution bill of right Act 1 of 1889. Nigga relax ur bloody agent
As South African in UAE... Damn i love this man #VeryInformative
Mara guys, honestly speaking Jacob Zuma's era alot of entrepreneurs were flourishing, money was circulating. You can't take that away from Zuma.
Tenders is not entrepreneurship. JZ adopted a budget surplus and left a huge budget deficit, the same root CR is following. Supply chain rules were disregarded, manipulation became order of the day, 10% kick backs, over pricing. Entrepreneurs are those who got assistance from government and flourished away from government.
MacG is the GOAT of Interviews, this guy can interview anyone and do the interview justice.. love him so much🤩
This is not speaking, this is preaching 🙌🏿 Shumayela Karl syalizwa izwi💯
Yona lendoda ikhuluma into enzima kakhulu🫱🏾🫲🏼🫱🏾🫲🏼🫱🏾🫲🏼
I'm loving this man
Carl is sober and conscious... My thoughts about him changed... He is oozing EFF character. Uh refreshing!
As an EFF supporter myself. I would never call a struggle veteran to be oozing EFF. EFF is a product of ANC that wants to adopt the policies that ANC promised to the people but abandoned them in favour of adopting the interests of WMC.
Great interview with Carl. I have never liked him because of what I consumed from white media. Now I see him as an independent individual 👏🏽
This is the reason why this podcast is dangerous. Uncensored conversations that ate not allowed in the media platforms.
Keep shining ✨️ 💛 💖
"If we don't document our history, they will come and tell us what is our history."©™ What a Rich Episode!! 💯💯💯
Every time I listen to Carl, I feel like he is just 1 sentence away from saying "we as black people" LOL
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Guy looks white and speaks Black, its amazing.
😂Yoh Nami I feel like he's going to say that.
Carl making us to understand how the WORLD of POLITRICKING works, thanks MacG.
Ive never before understood english clearly like this🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾Carl is precise🤞🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
Great to hear this man tell his story. Well done.
Love how Mac afforded Karl the platform to just speak his mind. He didn't interrupt him. Genius interview 🙌 they missed the "cheesecake" punchline by Karl 😆
They totally missed it 😂
It's because he knows shit about politics 😝😝😝😝😝
Carl is fucking loyal, a rare quality in the ANC.
It’s a terrible quality to have in any work environment. Imagine if doctors were loyal to other doctors even when they are failing at their job.
Our problem as South Africans is worshiping political leaders like they are religious figures.
Loyalist to a party that has now lost the sight
Nail in the coffin for ANC.
Well spoken this chap. I followed and listened on some of his Twitter Spaces, he is very brave and can express his views well.
The more we have these conversation, there more eye opening and thats why i still believe in South Africa, it might take time but slowly, but surely we will get there
Well done Mac... Your listening skills and timing to engage always shines when you have guests that command it 👌
Aluta comrade Carl..
Tell it as it is, truth be told, those with clear minds will definitely salute your stamina.
Thanks Mac G for hosting this guy. really learning a lot about the issues of this country we are living in and it all makes sense
The knowledge on this episode, as a young person I am grateful for this platform. ♥️🙏🏾 This 2 hours felt like 30min literally.
Cde Carl is a true Revolutionary . Amazing how the team gave him a free flow.
I love how the team allowed him to flow and he even had to ask that everyone is quite he was dropping wisdom.
You know it's a fire episode when the video is 2 hours + 🔥. Carl is a real one 🙌🏽
Carl deserves more mic 🎤🤞🏿
This interview made to change my prospective of Carl, I thought he was an attention seeker, BUT WOW!! such knowledge
Yoh damn Carl. Speaking so well feeding us the thruth
One of the best interviews I've seen on this channel , ey propaganda is real ,Carl should be given his Flowers
Chris Hani 29 October 1992 . "My fear is that the liberators emerge as elitists ... who drive around in Mercedes Benzes and use the resources of this country ... to live in palaces and to gather riches." May he rest in peace.
Cry my beloved country...
Uncle Carl interviewed himself and we loved it 😁🙏. The "mhms"🤣
When the story is rich, let it flow! Obviously Carl was sharing more than expected
He can keep the land,the ocean and the moon even the sun 🌞. Mr Carl should be the President of South Africa 🇿🇦 he is what I call the best of both world 🌎
BEST POLITICAL INTERVIEW SO FAR!!!
I hope we will have Baba Jacob Zuma on the show soon.
Viva poverty. VIVA !
@@crispinswainstonharrison9042 🤣
@@crispinswainstonharrison9042 😅😅😅😅
million views in a day
@@crispinswainstonharrison9042 you can say that again
Timestamps
1:28 Intro
2:27 Carl’s bio according to Wikipedia
3:27 Early life
4:02 Going to Soweto for the 1st time at 16, shocked by racial divide/inequalities 😲 😮
6:24 Enrolling at Rand Afrikaans University 👨🏫, now known as University of Johannesburg (UJ) 🎓. 6:30 Fighting for equality at varsity
7:25 Being expelled
7:59 Being defiant/rebellious 8:09 “sanity in a world of insanity”
8:15 Seeking refuge in a priest, Simeone Nkwane, who introduced Carl to Doctor Bayer Snudir (Became Carl’s mentor)
10:05 Joining the ANC at age 19, in Gaborone Botswana
16:20 Plans to cancel Black Economic Empowerment (BEE)
21:31 Corruption has no color/race
22:30 Brian Molefe
25:40 Jacob Zuma arms deal
28:58 State capturers
30:19 Cyril Ramaphosa
44:28 Proposed solution for ANC
46:17 Does Carl think he’s got a future in the new ANC
47:40 O.R Tambo on Liberation
48:48 Assassination of Chris Hani
50:16 Carl tip toeing around Nelson Mandela being a sellout
51:30 Tito Mboweni infamous speech in Davos World Economic Forum, December 1991
53:10 Being overlooked for ministerial position by Madiba, in favor of Derek Hanekom
1:00:15 Going through financial crisis in the 2000’s
1:02:14 Being accused of insurance fraud through the media
1:05:14 Recently paid lobola for 3rd marriage 💑
1:10:40 White monopoly capitalism
1:14:50 Prison
1:20:05 Jacob Zuma’s role in Carl being released from prison
1:22:18 Jacob Zuma’s relationship with the Guptas
1:27:43 Ndebele idiomatic expression “kick the dog till the master comes out” 🙃
1:30:11 Mac been Mac being Mac (Ace Moshagole 😜) 💀💀
1:35:55 The media being captured
1:39:00 Hungarian-American billionaire George Soros an imperialist funder ( funds Daily Maverick)
1:39:42 Pun by Carl 😂😅
1:40:26 Is ZA 🇿🇦 a registered company in the US 🇺🇸
1:41:47 Views on Rob Hersov interview, episode 397 ruclips.net/video/XoTSIJtk8bA/видео.html
1:45:02 Carl’s vision for ZA’s 🇿🇦 future
1:50:50 Carl’s views on other parties: DA, EFF, and other Civil society structure. 1:53:35 EFF, and Julius Malema
1:57:51 Mac being Mac is 🤣😂
1:59:40 Time at Wits University, as a student 👨🎓
2:09:17 How Carl’s 1st autobiography 📖 (released in 1993)
2:09:55 2nd book 📚 in the works, for 2023 release. Titled “Aluta Continua” ✍
2:11:09 How Carl would like to be remembered
2:11:13 Carl: as a loyal person (loyalty the most important thing to him)
2:12:12 Sports played at school
2:13:10 Favorite soccer team - Kaizer Chiefs ✌🖤💛
2:13:15 Sol being Sol, tracking back😂✊🏽
2:13:47 Closing remarks
2:14:04 Iconic John Kani closure
The lord’s work 😅
Wow this is truly amazing, thank you ❤
Thank you.☺
Thank you
Love u man
This can never be undone. Questionable points made. And enlightening this is...👏🏽👏🏽
This man deserves the sky and the stars
This was great to watch... he's such a good story teller too
13mins in and already you have finished the whole episode 😱😱😱😱😱
@@tebohotseleli7140 😂😂😂 I'm done... mine is 20mins ahead,
MacG, You must give Carl a lot of time in your Podcast. He's a real deal, I think so many people's eyes are beginning to open up
One of the best interviews ever. Well done guys please don't go downhill like Penuel.
😂😂😂😂😂
Pen is captured
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lets not attack another black mans hustle 🙏🏿
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Carl Niehaus is truly speaking on behalf of Black Empowerment and he's against Apartheid, racist parties like DA, and against White monopoly capitalists ...Carl likes to see all South Africans to be liberated.
Thank you so much to Carl Niehaus 👌
Carl is Havard of South African politics from right to left
Very bold take...
@@bhuuthesecond That's my personal opinion taken from his side of his story.
@@II-jt1uu No problem with that. You’re perfectly entitled to your opinion.
Wow protect this man at all costs because nowadays very few can stand up for what is right and most their loyalty is for sale
As a young black entrepreneur I agree with Karl 100%‼️ The Zuma years were the most empowering for young black companies 🤞🏽
And the country was looted to the edge of disaster by Zuma and his tjommies
WHICH BLACK COMPANIES? MAYBE WHERE BEE WAS ENFORCED ONTO THE WHITE COMPANIES AND MONEY JUST BEING GIVEN TO BLACKS.
@@mikewannenburg5907 And for some reason I’m not surprised why the testimony of young black companies wouldn’t interest you much; but you would rather divert to the negative aspects of a noble initiative ( BBBEE). “Throw away the baby together with the dirty bath water” approach tends to expose certain privileged sectors of this country. And by the way the truth is the looting of this country started more than a century ago, let’s not be selective in addressing issues.
@@billyjohnesterhuizen6340 Why do you want me to talk about white companies?? I’m giving a testimony of my own reality as a young black entrepreneur! without even thinking twice you have concluded that because we are black we were not qualified to render business services, we were given money “freely “ which in your opinion should have been given to white companies?? Please check yourself, your white arrogance is showing.
Empowering through corruption and only a few who also paid kickbacks only got those tenders.
THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT INTERVIEW THAT EVERY YOUNG PERSON IN SA HAS TO WATCH!!!
I watched this podcast when I came from gym about to take shower, guess what I took shower two hours later 😂😂 Carl is such a great guy we have been lied to about him
This is one of the most amazing interviews I've ever watched
Very insightful info from comrade Carl, about Cyril, Codesa, Tito and more 🙏🏾
Goosebumps and tears just hearing him talk about how the effects of apartheid are still with us today - SO MUCH TRUTH. I can't even believe we are discussing this. It's only been 28 years, we are going to suffer the consequences of apartheid. People who argue that we should get over it are ignorant of the socio-economic, psychological, generational, spiritual and dehumanizing effects of apartheid! Beautiful interview 👌🏾 👏🏾 🙌 ❤️
I really enjoyed this episode,Carl really opened my eyes,this is so informative,...power to Comrade Carl ..I take my hat off for you Sir.
Am I the only one who got goosebumps when he mentioned that he got recruited by his Wife? ❤️❤️❤️
"Kick the dog until the owner comes out" Mac-G uthi "Khaba lenja"😅😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Wow this interview is so enlightening. Sad how the media has made us believe that Carl is this “delusional Zuma puppet” thanks Mac n Sol for allowing Carl to express himself fully and enlighten us on matters we know nothing about! Kudos
This podcast deserve a big sponsor!!!!Period.
They wont sponsor hence its in our hands to support the guys to keep on the light by being patrons 🙌🏽
No they don’t. Big sponsorship automatically means censorship and towing the line. The organic growth of the podcast is actually better for freedom of expression.
It's not brand friendly to be honest, let's not be hypocrites.
White monopoly will sponsor and capture this podcast and push their narrative.
He went to right platform. That 2 hours was worth it. Great interview.
The first Dutch man i kinda like didn't knw about him went and did my research and damn this man is the defination of what a rainbow nation should be like...he selflessly gave himself to the course of struggle when it was not fashionable for voorterkers to site with black liberation movement shout out to u CARL we see u and we Love you
Carl is giving the chillers free lecture.
This is one of the best interviews ✊🏾 I so wish the viewers will understand what he’s saying.
This is one of the best interviews I've ever watched on the show.🔥🔥🔥
I first saw Carl at Winnie Mandela's funeral. All I know about him is that, he was a political prisoner. Can't wait to delve into this
Huge respect to Carl...(such a great interview)
Made me remember the day President Thabo Mbeki said there are people in the ANC that are there only to enrich themselves, Good people are there in the ANC they just waiting for a platform... Thanks MacG for giving this Legend a platform and making sure he is comfortable. Hope everyone gets the facts as they are
Carl is gold, shoutout to the podcast and the chillers!!
Thank you Comrade Carl for dropping so much 🔥😊
I liked even before watching. Oum Carl is a real revolutionary!! Peoplw need to learn more about Carl beyond media headlines. If every white had Carls attitude and embrace of people of color and diversity...SA would be # 1 in the world. It takes a lot to go against even the racism and bigotry of your own family.
Fantastic episode and I think guest like Carl and or of his caliber should be hosted because we learn a lot and we become relevant.
Youth ZA needs knowledge like this to understand their struggle.
I thought it was gonna be a pap episode with Carl🤦🏽♂️..
turned out to be an interesting one👌🏽
big ups to macg for his ability to interview anyone🤘🏽 and carl is a good story teller...
Heeee Ndaaaa 🤘🏽another fire episode 410🔥🔥🔥
number☝🏾podcast in the whole damn world
A CHILLER TODAY,TOMORROW AND FOREVER🤘🏽
this podcast is giving us news better than the news channels
people must learn to learn politics because it affects everyone and everything, this is very educative politically
"it was sanity in a world of insanity" - That hit deep