Hey guy, we started a discord community and if you'd like to join just to yap, rant, or discuss the game (in a composed manner), feel free to join! discord.gg/AwD7R4MAMx also, will probably be setting up tournaments with it in the near future. It'll also be a good way to practice with fellow viewers... I do think my viewers are great to practice against! Have a great night/morning boys. Talk to ya later
Yeeaaahhh mui goku is straight balls to play against now. Not kidding, I’ve had more than one match where an mui goku would not throw a single punch other than perception into knock back. Just ki blast spam until he can go sparking, and then just spam supers and ults. I was enjoying this update so much at first but I think we just traded a couple issues for a different set of issues lol
@@itapproaches3484no way yall complaining about wild sense now. People been running Wilde sense since game started just vanish it. Punch once and press circle you’ll vanish it. Stop nerfing everything. Shit been in the game for 17 years
@Zeussons99 wild sense was much more counterable because there were better ways to approach, with z dash being nerfed, people play like complete turtles and stand there farming wild sense, I can counter bad wild sense players, but if you're playing someone with equal skill and they have wild sense while you don't, you're 100% gonna lose that interaction if they're using it well
@ not if you bait it and watch wild sense I fight good people daily especially tiktokers. I even watch GBG and Grabdmaster hawk destroy good players using wild sense. You literally watch skill count. Punch once and press back circle you’ll vanish vanish it everytime. No way people are complaining about Wilde sense now. Afterimage strike and ki blast and unblockables was a great change but now wild sense? We gone make the game boring with all these nerfs
We’re in a rock paper scissors meta rn guys. MUI Teams counter Whis Teams Broly Super (Berserk)Teams counter MUI Teams And Whis Teams counter all Broly Teams The team Al was using (explosive wave teams) appear to be great against Whis (hence the win against me) but we’ll keep working towards seeing what other team comps & skills can counter the other two monsters lol
@@mohamedmaatougui2469From what I understand, Broly has better disengage tools than MUI and also has more HP and defenses. Also he has just as good zoning ki blasts, so because of his higher defenses, he can just outzone MUI. He loses to Whis because Whis ki blasts are better than broly's and has enough damage to bully Broly from far away, and since Whis is absurdly high damaging, he doesn't need many engagements to beat Broly, so one or two are enough.
@@mohamedmaatougui2469 Great breakdown Rosu ⚡️ for Broly his sparking mode is a lot more scary than MUI’s when they’re against each other because MUI has to deal with his hyper armor, & the damage Broly can do when he gets going whether he has a lot of health or not as yall know can down a fusion character in seconds, & even an entire team before they even know what happened. Zoning teams pay by letting him just charge or just shooting at him from range, & when they have to engage him & the Broly happens to know how to box just as good or better than you, you’re MUI & entire team is cooked. Also, auto dodge is high countered by his heavy ki blasts. Rosu covered the rest
Honestly I really hate this meta. I got Z rank and decided to stop playing until the patch hoping that would force people to throw hands more instead of cheese. I got on the other day and fought nothing but Ui goku’s who would do nothing but spam ki blasts at long range and only go in when he had spark. I do like this game, but these online metas really make playing online feel like a chore
And the sad part is we can’t even burst dash behind them anymore since its so expensive now so the game rewards timid players who just spam ki blast and prevent you from getting close
indeed. my last 10 solo ranked where 8 mui goku and 2 others. im at this point that im even happy to see gogettassj4 (tbf me kefla base which is kinda op aswel). dont ejoying anything at the moment realy..did one dp see how it is, first enemy backs up, ki blasts, backs up ki blasts... wtf
@@Zwefla it’s especially hard for me because I like playing Daima Goku and he doesn’t even have ki blasts. Now that he can’t even dash due to the cost and his abysmal ki charge rate he’s almost impossible to play against these ki spammers
@@Over10rd729 very nice and big respect for playing with him :D. my lowest one was ssj2 goku. but now its almost impossible to play low dp on single ranked, its only mui and fusions :( kinda sad
Sparking zero stops being fun in ranked mode the moment you hit A rank. B, C, D was fun.... a, s , z is absolutely fullll of try hards. The match quality drops instantly anyone around the b1-b5 knows EXACTLY what I mean one match with a C1 funnest match of your life then immediately next A5 Mui Ult spam
Both of you are wrong. It was different back then. Like I said, we weren’t afraid of losing because we cared more about picking our favorites and having fun then playing gay like you guys. We didn’t even have online. The youngins are too scared to be themselves and pick the Meta while the OG’s rely on their skill/ experience with weaker characters. Why am I even replying to 2 lames shy to even post a picture of themselves. Proves my point. Later ✌️
"MUI Goku is sooo cool he should get all the buffs, instant sparking, wild sense, teleporting melee that does a health bar and a half and he should be able to spam that and have highest damage and best ki blasts and..." - Online Game Developers
MUI plays completely different from the rest of the cast and has virtually no weaknesses. Whis is on the same boat too. In MUI's case they should nerf to hell his ki blasts, he should not be both the best zoner AND cqc char in the entire game. On Whis's case his heal needs to be smaller since it can be confirmed way too easily, and also make his special vanishable. On both of their cases, they both should have their autodoge cost more ki and also not prevent backshots.
My counter for MUI Goku and Bluegeta zoning has been picking the tournament of power arena every single time. It's small and the pillar is now my best friend. Worked surprisingly well for me, reached S3 and an 18 victory streak, which for a casual like me is an already massive achievement 😂
You mentioned that you were glitched out of the second vanish, that happens a lot to me and I was thinking it was my opponent’s connection and sometimes even mine but it’s been because of a glitch this entire time? How does it happen? I’ve lost a lot of matches against high damaging character because of that.
Pre patch I was enjoying DP as a former Singles only player because I got to get away from all the Gogetas and MUI Gokus. We're not allowed to have nice things. Old DP with vanish war and skill cost adjustments would have been perfect.
Hey just a tip, something i noticed is that you usually can't do the second vanish specifically after a super counter, which means whoever gets the supercounter off will win the exchange (in most cases, still not 100% sure about this), so if you get 1 super counter off in a vanish war and then just vanish their vanish, even with ki disadvantage, you should win the exchange, because they'll be locked out of the 2nd vanish
UI GOKU ping pong happens to everyone bc his follow up vanish punches are hard to vanish idk if everyone noticed but he’s the only one that appears for a sec standing still then punches u and the camera is slightly different for his follow ups
I’ve GBG manhandled some MUI when this short dragon dash attack on the step zone that you can do. I haven’t messed around with it yet to try but MUI and Whis can’t auto dodge that hit only RC or super perception if they anticipate it but then you’re plus if it hits and those characters just got ate up with that tech
Easy fix... make the ping pong cost the same amount of ki as a vanish would. I have lost confidence on this dev actually making this common sense change tho.
They actually buffed ping ponging. I went over it during my patch analysis haha and I was like “it seems they really want the combat to be all knockbacks”. Lo and behold knockback meta
What country gets UI Goku in the tournament? They are gonna be hard to beat lol 💀 ranked is killing me these last few days I hopped on and 7 fusions in a row then some ui Goku thrown in and my singles is done for
I still have yet to experience what feels like a “vanish war glitch” online it only goes bad for me when the connection is iffy between me and my opponent. Now oddly enough offline when I’m just chilling in a training room practicing SC I set the CPU to send me flying in that setting we all know and when we go into a vanish war I 9/10 can’t vanish the 2nd vanish and it’s always on that second one. It’s gotta be a situational setup for it to be happening when I’m messing with the cpu when he sends me flying and we go vanish war that’s where I’ve experienced me not being able to catch the second one so maybe that’s when it happens but online I go about vanishing whenever I want on solid connection
There is no counter to MUI Goku. You basically have to take insane risk to even open him up because of auto dodge. Even when you have him in a “punishable” situation. It’s not really a true punish because auto dodge bails him out
Don’t forget about wild sense even if you somehow get past his auto dodge the wild sense will just bail him out, they honestly should make it so that the wild sense turns off his auto dodge so it’s easier to deal With when fighting him.
I’m literally fuming at how annoying the vanishing assault exploit is they need fix this asap is becoming unbearable I lost so many games because of my combo dropping because of people exploiting I wish content creators stop explaining what theses exploits are because you always got them people who uses the information to exploit it themselves
@@alwuhugamingI really hope they fix this asap because before u barley encountered people doing it, the last couple days tho it’s like every other person is doing it literally the whole set is sad to see people resort to theses things
With the vanishing, I don’t think it’s bugged. I think inherently how they changed it makes it super difficult online now. Before, if there was 3f latency or 6 or 8 you could adapt to that and learn the vanish timing, since it was always the same. Now, since the window gets tighter every sequential vanish, it’s already fairly difficult offline with 0 latency but can be done. If there’s any subtle spike of package delays, which there would be even with a good connection, it’s gonna make that second, third or fourth vanish feel impossible. Vanishing’s generous input frames made this less of an issue on previous versions. Just my theory of course but that’s how I feel about it. I certainly notice not being able to do vanish wars sometimes, but I don’t find that it’s based on what game mode i’m playing. And it doesn’t ever happen to me in local multi
Idk it’s definitely something wits going on with it cuz I have been in plenty of vanish wars going back to back but in my case offline when I vanish with the cpu it’s hard as hell and always that second vanish….Idk what it is that’s happening but it’s definitely something up with the vanishes
I know I dickride Guldo but man, the new meta definitely makes playing him or really any low dp (especially in singles) 2-3x worse. Fighting an MUI who disengages and runs away the entire fight is the worst as Guldo is only ok at zoning if you utilize the strength of his giant paralysis ki blasts perfectly. I hope this new meta gets patched out and the old combat meta makes a resurgence. That’s why I like the stream lobbies, people play to have fun and box, except pyro with the giants 🥲
I had the stuck in place glitch a couple times. Dude fucking ulti special beam cannoned my jiren and kod him won that match from that glitch. I think you can swap during the glitch if you have the meter
UI/MUI Goku auto dodge consumes ki, Whis’ does not. Both only dodge light attacks as far as I know. A fast character/ki blast creates more auto dodges to drain more ki. But they can just block or perception. So if MUI has a weakness it’s ki consumption but he charges fast.
"roshi and videl were more oppressive than UI Goku" is how you say you don't know how the game works at higher levels without saying you don't know how the game works at higher levels
Welcome to what BT2 and BT3 players had to endure for *decades*. The sheer amount of bad and uniformed takes coming from people clueless about these games are simply ludicrous.
@@gsp6517 Yeah I mean, I disagree with a lot of the takes that BT2 and BT3 player have about the game, but the one thing we can agree on is that the takes do be ludicrous. Like it feels like the ship that is Sparking Zero is being helmed by a bunch of B and lower ranks and everyone else is just along for the ride as we're about to crash into an ice berg
Hey can someone explain to me how Mr. Satan works? More specifically his dynamite kick super. When I saw Gomas Mr. Satan use Dynamite kick, it did 7000 damage, anytime I have used it, it literally did like around 200-400ish damage. What determines that? Alwuhu you like low dp characters, please shine some light on the goat of all low dp characters, the champ himself one day! :)
22:25 And slowing down broly’s ult made it even worse! You cant use wild sense or afterimage and instead of one vanish you need like 2-3. Your only real hope is saving skill points for a barrier 🥲😂
3:50 It's absurd how much HP a fusion or Goku UI can take by just doing a vanish war, sometimes seems that it's better to just let them hit you to the end than try to fight it with super counter or vanishes They have to do something with it, make a super counter to reduce the number of attacks they can hit on you, so if you super counter 3 or 4 if his attacks, they can't hit you with all the attacks, maybe having a minimum of 2 hits they will always have to hit to finish the vanish war. But it's just absurd to have to lose so much HP to be able to get out of a vanish war with an high DP character, taking into account that vanish wars start from practically any interaction and you can get out of it to neutral in any way, It will always be with a player losing the exchange of blows
I was playing singles on Z rank, like every day, I decide to, why not, try MUI, i realized that is stupidly strong. Al, you didnt encounter a really good MUI, they just stunlock you and then air punch 5 times on your back, and you cannot vanish/blck that and do ton of damage
Vanishes need to be nerfed to. This game does not promote engagement as u said. Played a friend, literally just vanished over and over into a knock back eventually. Charge up and throw supers over and over.
Idc i just reached Z rank with 4 4dp Chars. Bardock, Nappa, Trunks sword, scouter Vegeta. Swapping is still strong just not OP. Also the ki restore while you are switching is good against high dp chars. Strong chars have to stay in with no ki and i wont let you charge ki with my ki blasts from all the characters. Same when they try instant spark. Ki blast --> switch for ki. Works great. Only Problem are armor characters for me but i can break armor with instant spark or ape transform eventho they break my ape Armor too. But you could just use 4dp gohans for that and transform but i like my chars too much and stay with them. But anyway. Thanks for your videos. Helped me to get into Z Rank with actually characters that I think are cool with a 76+ % win rate.
Just played a game vs z rank i have all 4 char alive i killed 2 of his char(gohan adult and gohan kid ) and he wins :D and only 1 char of mine was low hp and already in the bench for like 1 min for sure and the rest were like 50% . Nice game ..... Also noticed bug with wild sence when i hold block to counter for example racun ulty and it procs for no reason and kills me also happend with some ki blast im standing holding block and it procs ....
I wouldn’t even care about Goku’s knock backs if it weren’t for THE FUCKING VANISHING GLITCH. IT RUINS THE GAME FOR ME!!!! How can I compete if the game doesn’t allow me to?
This is not a new meta wtf ? It's exactly the same thing as before minus after image and the nerf to rush chains. Goku isn't more meta than vegito was a couple weeks ago. going against 9-10 dp characters being ping ponged around is meta since the game came out, it literally is the only thing these players had to to dmg. Spamming vanish battles and instant spark, the only reason these are meta now is because after image was nerfed
@@warzip1581 no it was not meta wtf ? Not in DP battle. This is DP battle not singles. Have you never played DP battle? Clearly you watch my videos. Go watch all my previous videos playing DP battle in high ranks against top players and show me where MUI/Whis and 9-10 DP ping pong is lmao
@@alwuhugaming Okay maybe its cause I'm still B rank I guess cause I've been mauled by high dp characters with better vanishing than me lmao. I still hated the roshi videl more than that tho
Yo bro can we address these new try hards in Rank? I play with items and I went against a hit player and he literally kept doing his 2nd super and when he misses he gets the Ki back(God Ki item) and it only cost two Ki bars. I love the item but I now see how these items can really be abused by bottom feeders
No im locked out of it for sure when I play player match in certain matches. I practiced with a viewer last night and for an hour straight I couldn’t challenge 95% of the vanish wars whereas in ranked I can can challenge most of them.
Why some people in higuer levels would do the absolute most to not actually play the game? They just want to get that W at all cost 😒, using the lamest and cheesiest methods. All they care is that shiny rank, dont care how they win, dont care about no fun, nothing but just win. They the type of movie villains that have a reasonable goal but is their methods what make them villains. It is lame af. And yeah I know why they do it, I just will never agree with it.
What? My super countering allowed for me to eventually gain ki advantage. I just messed up the last vanish. If I didn’t run his ki down with super countering and let him finish the knockback chain, he had enough ki to continue the loop with a z burst dash, which as you can see he did do it once. The play I did was the right play, I just didn’t execute.
I lost 11 games because I took a break from playing until this update. I was very good. Getting warmed up to this update after not playing sucked. I used Whis. Started winning back to back immediately 🥱 even was beating MUI goku. Btw all my first 10 fight were a Goku variant. Very cringe.
MUI Goku, or as I like to call him, Ultra Stupid Goku, is one of the most dumb characters introduced in this game. I legit consider him to be anti-fun braindead bullshit. And you know what's the worst thing of all? The devs (probably) changed some game mechanics that were staple in the series *specifically* to benefit him and Whis. Let me explain what I'm talking about: in previous games, every single rushing technique could be performed freely, as in, you didn't need to be hitting a opponent to use them. You could perform any rushing technique "on air" with no problem whatsoever. Why is this important? Well, rushing techniques go through UI's Dodge and are an easy way to do so. In a reality in which one perform, let's say Flying Kicks on a whiffed hit, it could be an easy way to open up a UI Goku, while forcing the opponent to actually, I don't know, play the game? What a groundbreaking concept! But no! Let's remove this to benefit the devs little silver haired prodigy child at the cost of the entire rest of the cast! How wonderful!
Hey guy, we started a discord community and if you'd like to join just to yap, rant, or discuss the game (in a composed manner), feel free to join! discord.gg/AwD7R4MAMx
also, will probably be setting up tournaments with it in the near future. It'll also be a good way to practice with fellow viewers... I do think my viewers are great to practice against! Have a great night/morning boys. Talk to ya later
Analyzed my marriage and ADAPTED to counter my wife’s “not in the mood” meta. Now something is really ASCENDING😏
SHE BETTER GIVE BIRTH TO A HIGH DP CHARACTER
Yeeaaahhh mui goku is straight balls to play against now. Not kidding, I’ve had more than one match where an mui goku would not throw a single punch other than perception into knock back. Just ki blast spam until he can go sparking, and then just spam supers and ults. I was enjoying this update so much at first but I think we just traded a couple issues for a different set of issues lol
We need z burst back and a wild sense nerf
@@itapproaches3484no way yall complaining about wild sense now. People been running Wilde sense since game started just vanish it. Punch once and press circle you’ll vanish it. Stop nerfing everything. Shit been in the game for 17 years
Same bro the meta is ass with mui goku just zoning and spamming knock back into supers
@Zeussons99 wild sense was much more counterable because there were better ways to approach, with z dash being nerfed, people play like complete turtles and stand there farming wild sense, I can counter bad wild sense players, but if you're playing someone with equal skill and they have wild sense while you don't, you're 100% gonna lose that interaction if they're using it well
@ not if you bait it and watch wild sense I fight good people daily especially tiktokers. I even watch GBG and Grabdmaster hawk destroy good players using wild sense. You literally watch skill count. Punch once and press back circle you’ll vanish vanish it everytime. No way people are complaining about Wilde sense now. Afterimage strike and ki blast and unblockables was a great change but now wild sense? We gone make the game boring with all these nerfs
Gotta remember one thing: how we play in the game reflects on how we are in real life.
We’re in a rock paper scissors meta rn guys.
MUI Teams counter Whis Teams
Broly Super (Berserk)Teams counter MUI Teams
And Whis Teams counter all Broly Teams
The team Al was using (explosive wave teams) appear to be great against Whis (hence the win against me) but we’ll keep working towards seeing what other team comps & skills can counter the other two monsters lol
How does Broly counter MUI please ?
Btw it's hard to communicate intent through comments but this is a genuine questions.
@@mohamedmaatougui2469From what I understand, Broly has better disengage tools than MUI and also has more HP and defenses. Also he has just as good zoning ki blasts, so because of his higher defenses, he can just outzone MUI. He loses to Whis because Whis ki blasts are better than broly's and has enough damage to bully Broly from far away, and since Whis is absurdly high damaging, he doesn't need many engagements to beat Broly, so one or two are enough.
@@RosuVT thank you
@@mohamedmaatougui2469 Great breakdown Rosu ⚡️ for Broly his sparking mode is a lot more scary than MUI’s when they’re against each other because MUI has to deal with his hyper armor, & the damage Broly can do when he gets going whether he has a lot of health or not as yall know can down a fusion character in seconds, & even an entire team before they even know what happened. Zoning teams pay by letting him just charge or just shooting at him from range, & when they have to engage him & the Broly happens to know how to box just as good or better than you, you’re MUI & entire team is cooked. Also, auto dodge is high countered by his heavy ki blasts. Rosu covered the rest
@@chrisgoma27 thank you for the breakdown man appreciate it.
Honestly I really hate this meta. I got Z rank and decided to stop playing until the patch hoping that would force people to throw hands more instead of cheese. I got on the other day and fought nothing but Ui goku’s who would do nothing but spam ki blasts at long range and only go in when he had spark. I do like this game, but these online metas really make playing online feel like a chore
i quit the game bc i genuinely cant stand these metas it doesnt even feel like a fighting game to me anymore
And the sad part is we can’t even burst dash behind them anymore since its so expensive now so the game rewards timid players who just spam ki blast and prevent you from getting close
indeed. my last 10 solo ranked where 8 mui goku and 2 others. im at this point that im even happy to see gogettassj4 (tbf me kefla base which is kinda op aswel). dont ejoying anything at the moment realy..did one dp see how it is, first enemy backs up, ki blasts, backs up ki blasts... wtf
@@Zwefla it’s especially hard for me because I like playing Daima Goku and he doesn’t even have ki blasts. Now that he can’t even dash due to the cost and his abysmal ki charge rate he’s almost impossible to play against these ki spammers
@@Over10rd729 very nice and big respect for playing with him :D. my lowest one was ssj2 goku. but now its almost impossible to play low dp on single ranked, its only mui and fusions :( kinda sad
Sparking zero stops being fun in ranked mode the moment you hit A rank. B, C, D was fun.... a, s , z is absolutely fullll of try hards. The match quality drops instantly anyone around the b1-b5 knows EXACTLY what I mean one match with a C1 funnest match of your life then immediately next A5 Mui Ult spam
Based on player numbers and this video anyone playing the game is watching this video. Nice work. Content rate is on point.
Why is it so hard for the player base to just play the game normally? Why everyone gotta be so cringe?
New generation of gaming. The "W I N" strategy no matter what.
Only Millennials and Older have played the game normally 💯. New Generation too scared apparently.
@@ainge9547 Yet again we act as if Gen Z didnt share the EXACT same childhood as millennials.
Because if it’s in the game people will exploit it. It’s not a new generation thing lol. It’s just human nature.
Both of you are wrong. It was different back then. Like I said, we weren’t afraid of losing because we cared more about picking our favorites and having fun then playing gay like you guys. We didn’t even have online. The youngins are too scared to be themselves and pick the Meta while the OG’s rely on their skill/ experience with weaker characters. Why am I even replying to 2 lames shy to even post a picture of themselves. Proves my point. Later ✌️
Those super counters are getting crispy🔥
"MUI Goku is sooo cool he should get all the buffs, instant sparking, wild sense, teleporting melee that does a health bar and a half and he should be able to spam that and have highest damage and best ki blasts and..."
- Online Game Developers
Just discovered how cracked whis is and went from a5 to s5 in a day
hell yea
Best character in the game. Just wait till mfs learn how to use his UI, probably gonna destroy ranked lol
@@doncinati7644There’s actually a neat counter to the auto dodge damn near makes it obsolete if you can do it
I used MUI Goku, Yamcha and Pan before the last update. I'm a visionary 🤣
Bro was a time traveler
MUI plays completely different from the rest of the cast and has virtually no weaknesses. Whis is on the same boat too.
In MUI's case they should nerf to hell his ki blasts, he should not be both the best zoner AND cqc char in the entire game.
On Whis's case his heal needs to be smaller since it can be confirmed way too easily, and also make his special vanishable.
On both of their cases, they both should have their autodoge cost more ki and also not prevent backshots.
My counter for MUI Goku and Bluegeta zoning has been picking the tournament of power arena every single time. It's small and the pillar is now my best friend. Worked surprisingly well for me, reached S3 and an 18 victory streak, which for a casual like me is an already massive achievement 😂
Yeah the stage can make or break the outcome of matches now. It’s kinda funny. Good stuff on S3 and 18 winstreak ;)
Bro I fought a MUI Goku and it’s so frustrating trying to punish him on pretty much anything lmao
Yup luckily Elwa doesn’t really abuse the auto dodge, but in the right hands… MUI’s auto dodge makes it so he cannot be punished normally.
Yeah I lost my 25 win streak due to an auto dodging MUI Goku. But as you say you gotta analyze adapt and ascend!
Quality isn’t low tbh it’s good, nice vid al!
You mentioned that you were glitched out of the second vanish, that happens a lot to me and I was thinking it was my opponent’s connection and sometimes even mine but it’s been because of a glitch this entire time? How does it happen? I’ve lost a lot of matches against high damaging character because of that.
I have no clue why it happens. It happens mainly in singles ranked and player match. Rarely ever in ranked DP luckily.
Pre patch I was enjoying DP as a former Singles only player because I got to get away from all the Gogetas and MUI Gokus. We're not allowed to have nice things. Old DP with vanish war and skill cost adjustments would have been perfect.
@@Viridis00 agreeeed
I also experienced second vanish glitching, it's really weird sometimes it goes away mid battle.
Yeah it seemingly most consistent depending on if you initiate the knockback and if you’re knocking them upward. But it’s not 100%
Analyze, Adapt, and Ascend. Sensei Alwuhu is the goat 🐐 🫡
Hey just a tip, something i noticed is that you usually can't do the second vanish specifically after a super counter, which means whoever gets the supercounter off will win the exchange (in most cases, still not 100% sure about this), so if you get 1 super counter off in a vanish war and then just vanish their vanish, even with ki disadvantage, you should win the exchange, because they'll be locked out of the 2nd vanish
UI GOKU ping pong happens to everyone bc his follow up vanish punches are hard to vanish idk if everyone noticed but he’s the only one that appears for a sec standing still then punches u and the camera is slightly different for his follow ups
“Whis is like Diddy…he gives off those vibes.” 💀💀💀
I like that high DP is stronger but lag + stall is irritable
Thx for the vid ~
Can we have a super janemba spotlight ? (16th vid)
I’ve GBG manhandled some MUI when this short dragon dash attack on the step zone that you can do. I haven’t messed around with it yet to try but MUI and Whis can’t auto dodge that hit only RC or super perception if they anticipate it but then you’re plus if it hits and those characters just got ate up with that tech
Anyone noticed the bug at 19:53 after hard knocking him down, roshis super doesnt even do 1k damage, happened to me too and its so anoying
Easy fix... make the ping pong cost the same amount of ki as a vanish would. I have lost confidence on this dev actually making this common sense change tho.
They actually buffed ping ponging. I went over it during my patch analysis haha and I was like “it seems they really want the combat to be all knockbacks”. Lo and behold knockback meta
What country gets UI Goku in the tournament? They are gonna be hard to beat lol 💀 ranked is killing me these last few days I hopped on and 7 fusions in a row then some ui Goku thrown in and my singles is done for
This game feels like the dark souls pvp of fighting games
I still have yet to experience what feels like a “vanish war glitch” online it only goes bad for me when the connection is iffy between me and my opponent. Now oddly enough offline when I’m just chilling in a training room practicing SC I set the CPU to send me flying in that setting we all know and when we go into a vanish war I 9/10 can’t vanish the 2nd vanish and it’s always on that second one. It’s gotta be a situational setup for it to be happening when I’m messing with the cpu when he sends me flying and we go vanish war that’s where I’ve experienced me not being able to catch the second one so maybe that’s when it happens but online I go about vanishing whenever I want on solid connection
I see you also play with zarbon as a lower dp character good choice tbh no one expects him cause the community flames him
22:05 damn zarbon went ssj2😂
Why dont you play Genyu now that 10 dp are present in DP ?
There is no counter to MUI Goku. You basically have to take insane risk to even open him up because of auto dodge. Even when you have him in a “punishable” situation. It’s not really a true punish because auto dodge bails him out
Don’t forget about wild sense even if you somehow get past his auto dodge the wild sense will just bail him out, they honestly should make it so that the wild sense turns off his auto dodge so it’s easier to deal
With when fighting him.
Yep reminds me of For Honor days when players using the most broken characters would run.
I’m literally fuming at how annoying the vanishing assault exploit is they need fix this asap is becoming unbearable I lost so many games because of my combo dropping because of people exploiting I wish content creators stop explaining what theses exploits are because you always got them people who uses the information to exploit it themselves
There won’t be change unless it’s brought to light
@@alwuhugamingI really hope they fix this asap because before u barley encountered people doing it, the last couple days tho it’s like every other person is doing it literally the whole set is sad to see people resort to theses things
With the vanishing, I don’t think it’s bugged. I think inherently how they changed it makes it super difficult online now. Before, if there was 3f latency or 6 or 8 you could adapt to that and learn the vanish timing, since it was always the same. Now, since the window gets tighter every sequential vanish, it’s already fairly difficult offline with 0 latency but can be done. If there’s any subtle spike of package delays, which there would be even with a good connection, it’s gonna make that second, third or fourth vanish feel impossible. Vanishing’s generous input frames made this less of an issue on previous versions. Just my theory of course but that’s how I feel about it. I certainly notice not being able to do vanish wars sometimes, but I don’t find that it’s based on what game mode i’m playing. And it doesn’t ever happen to me in local multi
Idk it’s definitely something wits going on with it cuz I have been in plenty of vanish wars going back to back but in my case offline when I vanish with the cpu it’s hard as hell and always that second vanish….Idk what it is that’s happening but it’s definitely something up with the vanishes
I know I dickride Guldo but man, the new meta definitely makes playing him or really any low dp (especially in singles) 2-3x worse. Fighting an MUI who disengages and runs away the entire fight is the worst as Guldo is only ok at zoning if you utilize the strength of his giant paralysis ki blasts perfectly. I hope this new meta gets patched out and the old combat meta makes a resurgence. That’s why I like the stream lobbies, people play to have fun and box, except pyro with the giants 🥲
HAHAHA pyro with the giants can be funny… unless it’s world tournament stage and he just belly stuffs you
I got to z-rank first in singles thanks to your videos, thank you for your content! I played gogeta blue dont judge me idc.
Good stuff!! I don’t judge don’t worry 😛
I had the stuck in place glitch a couple times. Dude fucking ulti special beam cannoned my jiren and kod him won that match from that glitch. I think you can swap during the glitch if you have the meter
UI/MUI Goku auto dodge consumes ki, Whis’ does not. Both only dodge light attacks as far as I know. A fast character/ki blast creates more auto dodges to drain more ki. But they can just block or perception. So if MUI has a weakness it’s ki consumption but he charges fast.
Can you do a spotlight on capsule gameplay
"roshi and videl were more oppressive than UI Goku" is how you say you don't know how the game works at higher levels without saying you don't know how the game works at higher levels
Forever confused by that statement
Welcome to what BT2 and BT3 players had to endure for *decades*.
The sheer amount of bad and uniformed takes coming from people clueless about these games are simply ludicrous.
@@gsp6517 Yeah I mean, I disagree with a lot of the takes that BT2 and BT3 player have about the game, but the one thing we can agree on is that the takes do be ludicrous. Like it feels like the ship that is Sparking Zero is being helmed by a bunch of B and lower ranks and everyone else is just along for the ride as we're about to crash into an ice berg
My team consists of base teen gohan, base adult gohan, base gogeta. I’ll go blue to deal more damage. I was using that team pre patch
Whis is kind of like WHO? 💀
PUFF DADDY WHIS
I'm suprised you didn't go over the new Water Vegeta meta in this video. Least to say, it is too powerful, the one extra power level breaks the game
Hey can someone explain to me how Mr. Satan works? More specifically his dynamite kick super. When I saw Gomas Mr. Satan use Dynamite kick, it did 7000 damage, anytime I have used it, it literally did like around 200-400ish damage. What determines that?
Alwuhu you like low dp characters, please shine some light on the goat of all low dp characters, the champ himself one day! :)
Its 50/50 either you dmg or you dont
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can't you side step the charged smash attack after blocking the ki blasts?
@@khalilbryant6317 yes but it’s still easy to catch people with it
22:25 And slowing down broly’s ult made it even worse! You cant use wild sense or afterimage and instead of one vanish you need like 2-3. Your only real hope is saving skill points for a barrier 🥲😂
3:50 It's absurd how much HP a fusion or Goku UI can take by just doing a vanish war, sometimes seems that it's better to just let them hit you to the end than try to fight it with super counter or vanishes
They have to do something with it, make a super counter to reduce the number of attacks they can hit on you, so if you super counter 3 or 4 if his attacks, they can't hit you with all the attacks, maybe having a minimum of 2 hits they will always have to hit to finish the vanish war. But it's just absurd to have to lose so much HP to be able to get out of a vanish war with an high DP character, taking into account that vanish wars start from practically any interaction and you can get out of it to neutral in any way, It will always be with a player losing the exchange of blows
I was playing singles on Z rank, like every day, I decide to, why not, try MUI, i realized that is stupidly strong. Al, you didnt encounter a really good MUI, they just stunlock you and then air punch 5 times on your back, and you cannot vanish/blck that and do ton of damage
Vanishes need to be nerfed to. This game does not promote engagement as u said. Played a friend, literally just vanished over and over into a knock back eventually. Charge up and throw supers over and over.
Live tonight ?
I don’t know about yall,but Sukuna would be perfect for this game.
I would pay for a Sukuna DLC in sparking zero.
Binding vow skill for the win.
I got the antimeta: use big Janemba and slap the shit out of Roshi and Recoome and other low cost characters
Idc i just reached Z rank with 4 4dp Chars. Bardock, Nappa, Trunks sword, scouter Vegeta.
Swapping is still strong just not OP. Also the ki restore while you are switching is good against high dp chars. Strong chars have to stay in with no ki and i wont let you charge ki with my ki blasts from all the characters. Same when they try instant spark. Ki blast --> switch for ki. Works great. Only Problem are armor characters for me but i can break armor with instant spark or ape transform eventho they break my ape Armor too. But you could just use 4dp gohans for that and transform but i like my chars too much and stay with them.
But anyway. Thanks for your videos. Helped me to get into Z Rank with actually characters that I think are cool with a 76+ % win rate.
Community lame as hell
isn't ss4 gogeta better than muie goku?
Cabba can stop goku don’t sleep on him
my current dp team is just kefla ssj and ui goku xD idc just having "fun"
Just played a game vs z rank i have all 4 char alive i killed 2 of his char(gohan adult and gohan kid ) and he wins :D and only 1 char of mine was low hp and already in the bench for like 1 min for sure and the rest were like 50% . Nice game ..... Also noticed bug with wild sence when i hold block to counter for example racun ulty and it procs for no reason and kills me also happend with some ki blast im standing holding block and it procs ....
I wouldn’t even care about Goku’s knock backs if it weren’t for THE FUCKING VANISHING GLITCH. IT RUINS THE GAME FOR ME!!!!
How can I compete if the game doesn’t allow me to?
Analyzing off meta when?
I don't mind the new meta. At least there is more variety instead of just 5 character teams who switch every 10 seconds
Mui goku and whis is ridiculous
As a UI Goku enjoyer, i do not approve this meta
BIG AL WOOHOO!!
day 8 of asking for a kid trunks character spotlight
Go broly
There is no counter to whis and mui the only counter is a character ban feature on ranked
You should really check out vegito fr
Yuuup, that’s what I said Super Vegito especially is still very busted
goku+trunks is the meta
19:56 lmao that did no dmg
Pathetic ultra instinct monkey users. Lord frieza is pissed
Damn, you read all comments. If you read this tell me.your favourite animal
I’m a cat type of guy. How about you?
Lion
@@alwuhugaming I also feel like a cat guy, although i dont have one. My favourite animal is the dolphin
so high dp = harder to beat....... sounds like BT 3 ie they way it should be not meta .
This is not a new meta wtf ? It's exactly the same thing as before minus after image and the nerf to rush chains. Goku isn't more meta than vegito was a couple weeks ago. going against 9-10 dp characters being ping ponged around is meta since the game came out, it literally is the only thing these players had to to dmg. Spamming vanish battles and instant spark, the only reason these are meta now is because after image was nerfed
@@warzip1581 no it was not meta wtf ? Not in DP battle. This is DP battle not singles. Have you never played DP battle? Clearly you watch my videos. Go watch all my previous videos playing DP battle in high ranks against top players and show me where MUI/Whis and 9-10 DP ping pong is lmao
if anything it was worse before, I remember going against fusions and spending 80% of the fight trying to time vanishes
@ again this is DP BATTLE NOT SINGLES. THIS DID NOT OCCUR IN DP BATTLE VERY OFTEN PREPATCH. IF IT DID IT GOT HARD COUNTERED THEREFORE IT WAS NOT META
@@alwuhugaming Okay maybe its cause I'm still B rank I guess cause I've been mauled by high dp characters with better vanishing than me lmao. I still hated the roshi videl more than that tho
You guys broke this game
Imagine hating the player and not the game. Devs fault brodie
Yo bro can we address these new try hards in Rank? I play with items and I went against a hit player and he literally kept doing his 2nd super and when he misses he gets the Ki back(God Ki item) and it only cost two Ki bars. I love the item but I now see how these items can really be abused by bottom feeders
Also this bum was a S4 and I’m a A2
Don't use items.
i love you
Thought I was locked out of vanishing too but I’m pretty sure the second one is just a little later than you think and your muscle memory taking over.
No im locked out of it for sure when I play player match in certain matches. I practiced with a viewer last night and for an hour straight I couldn’t challenge 95% of the vanish wars whereas in ranked I can can challenge most of them.
Why some people in higuer levels would do the absolute most to not actually play the game? They just want to get that W at all cost 😒, using the lamest and cheesiest methods. All they care is that shiny rank, dont care how they win, dont care about no fun, nothing but just win.
They the type of movie villains that have a reasonable goal but is their methods what make them villains. It is lame af.
And yeah I know why they do it, I just will never agree with it.
This vanish excuse is literally killing me💀 luv your videos tho
Excuse? Explain to me why I can vanish normally in ranked matches but not player match lmao. Lots of people are experiencing the same thing.
It’s not an excuse it definitely happens one player can vanish while another can’t
4:00 this was the dumbest play I’ve ever seen u do
What? My super countering allowed for me to eventually gain ki advantage. I just messed up the last vanish. If I didn’t run his ki down with super countering and let him finish the knockback chain, he had enough ki to continue the loop with a z burst dash, which as you can see he did do it once. The play I did was the right play, I just didn’t execute.
Im curious, what do you think is the best play here. Im tryna improve my play
WAS I THE FIRST LIKE. FINALLY 😂😈
I lost 11 games because I took a break from playing until this update. I was very good. Getting warmed up to this update after not playing sucked. I used Whis. Started winning back to back immediately 🥱 even was beating MUI goku. Btw all my first 10 fight were a Goku variant. Very cringe.
MUI Goku, or as I like to call him, Ultra Stupid Goku, is one of the most dumb characters introduced in this game. I legit consider him to be anti-fun braindead bullshit.
And you know what's the worst thing of all? The devs (probably) changed some game mechanics that were staple in the series *specifically* to benefit him and Whis.
Let me explain what I'm talking about: in previous games, every single rushing technique could be performed freely, as in, you didn't need to be hitting a opponent to use them. You could perform any rushing technique "on air" with no problem whatsoever.
Why is this important? Well, rushing techniques go through UI's Dodge and are an easy way to do so.
In a reality in which one perform, let's say Flying Kicks on a whiffed hit, it could be an easy way to open up a UI Goku, while forcing the opponent to actually, I don't know, play the game? What a groundbreaking concept!
But no! Let's remove this to benefit the devs little silver haired prodigy child at the cost of the entire rest of the cast!
How wonderful!
First
Since you rushed in first, you're now at a ki disadvantage.😔
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