This Era too weak so I doubt if he'd be on the floor as often. Touch foul era is perfectly said. I don't knock what Iverson said. I dang near believe it
I wholeheartedly agree. Iverson would dominate with his speed and handles. He was healthy during a rough time period. He would most definitely dominate.
@@kevkeisha34 PPG or 35 PPG he definitely will. Iverson whole career he had absolutely no room to operate. With spacing and shooters Iverson would be unstoppable
People just want to prop up this era but this era is just soft. Full stop. They talk about his efficiency rating but they forget he played in a tougher era. These jokers nowadays just stand around the three point line and think that's great and beautiful basketbal. Smh. The fact that he wouldn't be playing nowadays because of his efficiency numbers, like Windhorst said, is exactly what is wrong with the NBA today. There is no more room for individual creativity.
you cant include his FG % from back then and then say "well today with those numbers he wont get the ball" ...he would be way more efficient in todays NBA cuz he can score just as much but much easier...he also does not need to shoot 3s, because he would constantly get foul calls like they do now and would most likely avg close to 10 FTs a game which would increase his efficiency a lot.
@@Sdninja619 im not saying hes going to get 40, im just saying he would be much more efficient with guys who are scared of contact and free throws are easier than ever... Kyrie also is much more finesse player where as AI will go to the rim with 0 F's given
Today’s era is different more zone and 3pt shooting. Rules are different and defense is smarter than ever. A.I. played in a low efficiency era so it fit perfectly for him but different era now
Am I imagining things or didn't Allen Iverson routinely lead the whole league in scoring during his prime beating out both saq and kobe in their prime. I remember saq and kobe would be around 25 ppg and Iverson would have 30ppg. Of course he'd average 43 points easy. Paint is less dangerous now and his midrange was killer. He would even have less injuries. I'm confused how this is even a debate...
moron. Curry is Way better and shoots 3s, he can’t average close to 40. Harden was the only close one and he’s taller than iverson and isod every possession
No he’s not because it would hurt his team. Logically he can avg 43 but no good team would even allow him to ballhog in a 3pt shooting era. He’s gonna have to pass the ball to play winning basketball. Trust that lebron can avg 50 if he wanted to but it would be detrimental to his own team.
Iverson won 4 scoring titles when KG, Shaq, Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Melo, Duncan, McGrady, Carter, Dirk, and many more were in their primes. He may not average exactly 43, but he definitely could lead the league in scoring by a good margin. He got to the basket when teams had legit PF's and Centers at will. With the floor being spaced with tons of small ball players he would get and finish at the rim much easier. Plus most of the top players in the league still score in the mid range, and he would have his way there also. He could shoot 3's, and his speed off the dribble would give him lots of open looks. The thing that folks forget is he was relentless, and his mindset was attack at all times. He was a much more efficient scorer than Kyrie, even though Kyrie is more nuanced. Iverson would be un-guardable in this era, much more so than in his era. Defenders aren't the same as they were even with the floor being littered with guards and forwards, and if he had decent shooters around him it would be over. He's a much better scorer than any current player in the league even with his inefficiency.
@Paul.Burrell...Excellent analysis, succinct accurate and ridiculously on point in all aspects. You are a true Basketball Savant. A.I would dominate "today's game" nuance and all especially with such B.S. defensive standards and the lack of desire and pride to play any defense whatsoever. Facts X's 💯💪💯.
People just want to prop up this era but this era is just soft. Full stop. They talk about his efficiency rating but they forget he played in a tougher era. These jokers nowadays just stand around the three point line and think that's great and beautiful basketbal. Smh. The fact that he wouldn't be playing nowadays because of his efficiency numbers, like Windhorst said, is exactly what is wrong with the NBA today. There is no more room for individual creativity.
We should all be fortunate lebron can't shoot like steph. That narrative could be given to literally every top player, every player has a weakness, deal with it.
People criticize his efficiency when in that era efficiency was all-around low. In his prime he averaged - 29pts on .425% on 24 shots in 41mpg. In the late-90s and early 00's most all-star guards were shooting around 45% so while his efficiency was not the best, it was still close to par. He relied mostly on drives/lay-ups and mid-range 2's, which in today's game he would absolutely flourish driving the ball with absolutely no deterrent in the paint or hand-checking. Plus players back then weren't training to shoot 3's like they do now. While he was a mediocre 3-point shooter, I bet he would be able to shoot around 35-38% in today's game. His likely modern day comp would be SGA for sure, but much faster and more athletic.
@@Coldskin1wouldnt work in todays era. he'd get shut down as the only scorer. teams would not care ab winning theyd just make sure to not let him score
Look at what luka is averaging. I believe he could do 45 or 50 he was attacking non stop and they would hammer him. He kept coming. Look at the all star game. That todays nba no dogs
@@str8duval what are you talking about ?I’m talking today the centers on teams are like 6’9 compared to back when a.i played pf’s were like 6’10 alone, so centers were 7 ft or more .
@@str8duvalif it weren't for Embiid, Jokic, and Porzingis the center would be obsolete now. Teams started going smaller for pace because guys like Jokic are too slow to get back on defense. Iverson would scorch these centers nows and the paint defense is weaker too.
@@KnownUnknown19 if the answer spent most of his career struggling to get out of the first and second round then it probably wasn't the right answer to begin with
Always folly to talk about what would happen in different time periods-but for Windehorst to say Iverson wouldn’t be able to jack-up shots in todays game is crazy being that is what 90% of the players do now
these players that your saying jack up shots, are not jacking up shots😂 it isnt jacking up shots when you make them efficiently 😂learn the meaning of that phrase
@@100pBuggin & Iverson wasn’t just throwing up shots he was MAKING em! Curry shoots around 12-15 3’s a game & makes slightly under half of them most games. Doesn’t make him any less of a player. Don’t come at me, young bull
@@100pBuggin So Cam Thomas doesn't jack up shots? Iverson didn't just jack up bad shots. He took much better shots than given credit for, he was tripled team nightly also, which folks always seem to forget. That wouldn't happen today which would allow him to score at will. Go watch his highlights and you'll see he wasn't taking anywhere near as bad of shots that are currently being taken by way less players in every NBA game.
@@Paul.Burrellbad shots are relative. players now are way better shooters than iverson was. he was never a good shooter he never had great mechanics n he had bad shot selection. Niggas aren't 5'11 165lbs so its not a bad shot for them
bro curry shoots 3s😂curry is shooting very contested 3s at a higher percentage than iverson shot middys there is a BIG difference and of course he was making them but he shot well below average at 42%@@ShadomanG
Obviously AI would be more efficient in the modern game. The main reason modern NBA players are more efficient is because of the spacing, the lack of defense including an overall lack of effort on that end of the court, and the way the game is played. Teams do actually play defense in SHORT SPURTS in some games in today's game and you see the offense instantly become less efficient, missing shot after shot, turning the ball over, and the pace slows dramatically. And the minute the defense lets up the pace and efficiency picks right back up.
the lack of effort has only gone down because of spacing, when there is this much spacing, it is near impossible to play good defense. when you have to guard every player past the 3 point line it is impossible to be able to keep up. Every superstar REQUIRES a double team or else they are scoring 40+ ppg and guess what, when you have to double then that leaves someone open, you pass to that man and now everyone is in rotation, and with the amount of space it is impossible to close out on players. Defense is NOT worse today than it was before, things evolve over time they do not devolve.
@@100pBuggin near impossible? No it's not. Not only is effort an issue, so is lack of fundamentals. Help defense isn't taught anymore. People constantly have their back to the basketball, a HUGE no-no. They don't fill the gaps on drives correctly. They don't see their man and the ball when defending. They gamble a TON. Basically everything you're taught in middle school, they aren't doing. Not to mention a lot of teams play drop coverage on screens, which basically ensures the offense is getting a good look out of it instead of hedging or icing the screen to take it away. Don't even get me started on transition defense. Mofos don't even know how to do that either.
bro things evolve over time they do not devolve. Coaches are not getting paid millions to teach their team bad defense lmao, a lot of it has to do with statistics as well. It may be better to not help on someone attacking the rim because the alternative is a wide open 3 which is worth more points than a drive to the rim. A LOT of it is statistics. it may look like bad defense but it is not. These coaching staffs and schemes are levels ahead of what theyve ever been because of statistics. Once again humans learn from the past and evolve, we do not devolve.@@WutTheDeuceGaming
Kobe Bryant was low efficiency as well guys. Iverson shot 43% give or take. Bryant shot 45% give or take. They don't say those things about Kobe Bryant. I think we need to be fair across the board with these players. Damian Lillard is considered a great shooter and he is also under 45% in his career and under 40% from three. Some players are remembered more favorably than others I guess.
I think you gents completely missed the point.. his game would have adapted to the times as All players have or would have. No defense being played that’s a layup every time. No hand checking or physicality! Shooting percentage goes up.. he’d torch this new league
Players are to skilled now on offense, strategies are down to a science at attacking a defense, and the rules favor the offense. Doesn’t mean defenses are soft, the odds are stacked against a defense in todays game
People keep saying "You've got to hit the three. You've got to make 3s" Yet every era has a midrange scorer that is arguably the best player in the game. Shai barely shoots threes and he's averaging 31 a game. I don't think AI could average 43 but I think he could definitely get 35 a game in today's league. You also underestimate that EVERYONE's field goal percentage was down. Every team was barely putting shooters out there. Multiple 7 footers camping the basket at all times. Allen Iverson with this space being guarded on an island with no rim protection? He's getting to the basket whenever he wants...
People are in love with the 3 and that’s why Steph is hold in such a high regard, the reality is that plenty players in the league give you the same efficiency in the league when it comes to PPG but the 3s just look better and are more fascinating to people.
If you avg 23 shots a game and 11 fts it would be easy to get 40 especially in todays game iverson would “have too” take about 6 3s at least per game He would hit at least 2 He would avg 42 3 6 off 46 percent
@@TheRealLeonardWashington Kevin Durant highest PPG is 32. What makes you clowns think Allen Iverson is averaging 11 more points than KD at his best🤡🤡🤡
In his heyday, when he drove to the basket, guys like Shaq, Mourning, Motumbo , ewing were waiting for him. Non of the type of players mentioned above no longer exists, add to the softest rules in history, Iverson would easily average 40 plus points today.
Lmao y'all just say anything, there's easily 10 guards in the nba today who are better or at least more taletened scorers than A.I if none of them are averaging 40 what fairy tale do you live in where 6'1 A.I is averaging 40 in today's game
Allen Iverson was basically a slimmer, more athletic Kemba Walker. I agree with Legler that he wouldn't get close to 40 because his 3 point shot was only above average. I think he'd be a defensive liability too because he'd get called for a lot more fouls than he did when he played, and his steals would go down significantly.
@@chadwellington2524 Gassing him up way too much, he's barely more efficient. He had a better midrange but was equally bad on 3s, which lead to him being basically ignored on the perimeter so that they can take away his drive.
The game is evolving, Steph changed the game, everyone can shoot threes even centers. Its hard to guard a wicked jump shot. Jordan played in 2003 and that fade away was still lethal against young players. Every player has a fade away , handles, and defense.
He thinks he would just drive to the cup and do as he pleases, these guys today have a different level of athletisim, plus they don't send high volume scorers to the line every time they get contact, especially little guys, ask Curry.
If that were true two of the most unathletic guys ever, Luka and Jokic, wouldn't own the league. If these "uber athletes" you speak of were shutting down slower/less athletic guys. AI would get to the cup as he pleases and fouling is the only way to stop it. The smartest thing they could do is treat him like Westbrick or anyone else that can't shoot well and make him take open 3s.
Iverson is not exaggerating either. He’d get at least 15 off free throws in todays NBA. If he could average over 30 multiple times while playing in the NBA with all that defense then he can def do it now.
Allen Iverson had over 40 points in eight consecutive games during his rookie year in 1996; it might be possible. Iverson was a dog, and he was very explosive off the dribble
The 2000s were the best decade for defense statistically and AI averaged 33 in 05. I think he underestimated what he would average with the way defense is played now.
The 2000s were the best decade for defense but the current game is the best age for efficiency. Yeah AI averaged 30+ in the early 2000s but he did it barely shooting 40% from the field. Somebody that inefficient right now can’t even get real playing time
@@JonSnowsGhosthe’d be Russell Westbrook now. Better yet he’d be the AI that was on the Grizzlies. The game has changed and that heavy isolation ball dominant style doesn’t win now for one and for two no coach/ analytics department is going to allow it
It’s interesting cuz AI is a career 43ish% shooter. That in today’s nba is very inefficient. And he’s a small guard. So like what exactly is he? Trae Young without the passing? Jalen Green with a greener light?
Just say you dont understand basketball.. Iverson was a master at getting by his man, all he's saying is that in TODAYS NO CONTACT league and illegal defense he'd live in the paint and his open spots. If Trae Young can abuse defenders and pull mid range which is what Iverson made a living off of then he'd surely score way more than he did while being grabbed,pulled and cloethelined mid air in the 90's. Kids say the darndest things these days
@@unknowncat5000 it’s pretty bad by today’s standards. Jayson Tatum shoots 47% and ppl are saying he needs to be more efficient. He like Windy said. A shot chucker.
I love how every year we're talking about "record breaking efficiency". C'mon Windy, we all know why that is. NO DEFENSE is being played and everyone is fouled whenever someone breathes on them. You cannot compare Embiid to Iverson, LOL. Fact of the matter is, he wouldn't need to shoot 3s. Again, can't be touched and he was unguardable on the perimeter. He's feasting at the line in todays NBA. Not only that, we saw his efficiency significantly increase while on a better team in Denver. He was still averaging 40 mins per game, his shots went way down and his % went up. He was also consistently averaging between 8-10 free throws per game, that number gets to 15 in today's defenseless NBA. Take another look at the eras for a second as well. He played in an era that was LOADED with defensive big men. Todays era is about stretch big men, who is stopping him when he gets to the hole? Jokic? LOL. Philly's second best offensive player was Aaron Mckie, and he won a 6th man award while scoring a whopping 11.6 points per game. That was one of three seasons where he actually scored 10+ per game btw. That Philly team had to have been one of the worst assembled offensive teams of that era, yet were constantly in the playoffs because of AI's dominance.
If Iverson gets 43 all middy and lays his time would get blown out easily. Also he woulf developed with the times he would be shooting more but ai wasn't efficient at all
He's totally right. When defense was played in his Era he got knocked down and fought hard. In today's league he'd probably be like lead point average and free throes 😂
Legler is 101% wrong! A great player like AI would adjust to anything. This era has no legit defense and handchecks let alone abig man that like Mourning, Ewing, Shaq, Olajuwon, Mutombo, Duncan, etc that protects the rim physically on a regular basis and not afraid to get posterized.
Stop with this bs! And seriously? This overrated handchecking narrative again? Do you even know what type of defense this is? The NBA removed the handchecking in 2005 and AI never averaged near 40 ppg, stop clowning!
@@draspenyeah handchecking is the most overrated rule ever. Old heads act like you could completely shut people down. Guards still scored back then just fine
@@draspen yeah the point I always go to is Michael Adam’s was an all star in the 90s who shot a lot of 3s for his era and was smaller then Steph. If handchecking didn’t stop him, it definitely ain’t stopping like any good nba player today. Imagine thinking you can stop Steph or Luka just because of handchecking. And defenders especially in the playoffs basically still do handcheck. People just don’t understand rules and think objectively
Just reading all your messages makes me want to do this!🤦🏽♂️ You guys doesnt have a clue what you talking about. Lawd have mercy! Michael Adams is a one time all-star for crying out loud and he is nowhere near AI or Steph is.. keep reaching!
While the 43 number is high, whoever thinks that AI couldn't average it in today's game is either too young and didn't watch him play, is a hater of AI or simply doesn't know basketball! 💯
They need to stop! AI would average 35-40 easily. He played in an era when they game was harder, and at his best he averaged 33 a game the same year Kobe averaged 35. Dude was a scoring machine.
“Legs” said only 2 guys have gotten to 35. Does he realize Iverson got to 33 on 45% shooting when rules changed and he wasn’t in his prime? Harden shot 4/12 from 3, Iverson shot 1/3 from 3. That’s 33%. Harden is a less efficient version of Iverson. They just say anything on this channel. I’m only here because a RUclipsr reacted to this and I needed the source. BOYCOTT ESPN GARBAGE ANALYSIS
I completely concur. Iverson's speed and handling would be unmatched. He was in good health throughout a difficult time. He would undoubtedly be in control.
@@guessthelogo except that’s not the case anymore because we’ve seen players Derrick Rose, John Wall, Kyrie Irving, D. Fox, Tyrese Maxey, Trae Young, the list goes on. What AI was athletically and ball handling wise is no longer uncommon
SMH, former players trying so hard to destroy the current NBA. Sad, we are our worst enemies...jealousy and envy is driving these former players. Only Larry Bird seems to be supporting the current NBA, because he knows current players have far better skills than previous generations.
In this era because of the three ball AI would have perfected it like every other part of his game. That's another thing people overlook. He wasn't THAT BAD of a three shooter TBH. The handle and how hard he played attacking the paint on the dribble, man I say 40-45 per game is actually realistic if he did play in this era.
@@lilverson1333 LMAOO stop being delusional. Wilt is the only player with over 40 games. Harden is the only player with more than 20 in the last 10 years.
Prime Iverson (2005) would be a monster in this league.Iverson lived in the paint, and refs blowing whistles on a tap on an arm. Iverson was a high percentage free throw shooter so he will dominate in that category alone. Iverson also developed a deadly mid range at the peak of his career and also has a fast release. Today NBA players imitate Iverson step back. What people don’t notice why it was hard to guard his step back, because it was in all one motion he’s step back was so smooth. A lot of players step back reposition there feet then shoot. Iverson step back was so lethal because he didnt have to reposition he feet he would just cross left or right step back and smoothly going into a jump shot. No pause no reposition everything was just in one motion. His step back was pure art, and mastered at it especially during his short stint with Denver. Iverson would easily average over 30ppg
AI could get by anybody, I mean ANYBODY ... he made a living in the paint. The point is that nobody is waiting for him in the middle. Obviously, he'd have to work on his jumper, get used to taking non-contested 3s, but I think he could adapt.
I’m so glad reasonable and logical baseball minds are having this discussion. Not just fanboys trying to say something cool about one of their favorite players.
37/38 for sure. Don’t talk about his era and his efficiency metrics and then just assume he couldn’t adapt to this era. His 3 pt shot would be better, he’d take less long twos, get to the ft line more, and take advantage of less physicality in the defense. Maybe 43 isn’t realistic but he definitely could he just likely wouldn’t aim to do that
Prime Allen Iverson from '96 to circa '03 averages 35+ easily because 1) He was a ballhog 2) He was a great FT shooter 3) He'd be allowed to take 40 shots a game because every game goes at an up tempo pace nowadays
He probably would. He did put up a career 26.7 ppg in the hand checking era and when they'd wait on him to drive to the rim. To Windy's point, he was a low efficiency player so whatever his usage rate was then wouldn't really be a factor now and the Leg's point yes he would need to work on his 3 ball but his middy was always money and players today still use it. He making it sound like they outlawed the middy. The one thing they didn't talk about was the spacing on the floor.
You missed what else they said. Teams don’t play isolation and heavy usage players like they did in Iversons time. Yeah I’m sure he could score 40 points a game if he wanted to and the team gave him the ball to score every possession but so could a ton of players. But that’s not efficient and no team plays like that anymore
The lack of defense and the fact that players can shoot 15 3p in a game. Yeah he would go nuts. Iverson played the way he did because of the era he played in
Players scoring 70 at all in a game is crazy to me. So A.I. averaging 43 is much but about 35 for sure. And yes his game would have to be different in thos day in age but not hard for a lot of guys i could name that could adapt to this game today no problem.
The thing is y’all always say the players from back then could adapt to todays game but the players today couldn’t adapt back then lol.. the double standards is crazy, that’s why I can’t listen to the old heads anymore but it’s pure emotions instead of facts
This dude was a legit running back. Aside from the speed and shiftiness, his relentlessness would definitely make him dominant. Imagine Westbrook with a better finish and shooting. With a stretch 4 and a stretch 5, driving lanes would be extra wide for him. If big men couldn't stop him them, who would stop him now? But having said that, it would take somebody like Mike D'Antoni with his "7 seconds or less" offense to get him to average 40. He ain't gonna win, but I believe he would average 40.
What's really funny (and a bit disappointing) about this discussion is that they aren't necessarily saying Iverson couldn't average 40+ because of talent. They're basically saying that in today's league, the team simply wouldn't allow him to play 41 minutes per game like he did in the past. This mindset kind of shows the weakness in today's game and how many player lack the love of actually being in the NBA. Guys like Iverson, Kobe, Jordan, Tim Duncan and others considered a badge of honor to put in 40 minutes per game and 82 games a season if they were physically able. But today's players are largely pampered and still can't give 35 minutes per game. One thing to note, Iverson's 3pt efficiency would go up because he'd be defended far less on the perimeter. Also, in today's NBA, guys are average and even mediocre 3pt shooters but still shoot a ton of threes. If AI played 40 minutes per game and shot 7 threes per game in addition to drives and free throws, he'd easily average 40
What are you watching ? Go watch games from 1990s( Yo can watch on RUclips)! They were slow. Today, pace was faster. 1990s , defence was in the paint/in the key. They could shoot for 3 without defence. But they were weak for 3FG. NBA Team avg. Free Throw Attempts Per Game 2023/24 -22.7 1995/96 - 26.4
AI is talking about the defense being trash, they missed the point
Thank you
They got the point, they just disagree with him
He means having shooters instead of eri snow on his team
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No he saying real talk he dropped over 40 point on mj and kobe more than once
He spent most of his career getting knocked down. He'd have all the free throw records if he played in this touch foul era.
😂 I said the same thing. He will average 15 attempts a game or more (free-throws)
@@june19th85Some of the fouls he took would be flagrant fouls today. 😂
It’d be like embiid
He’d get use to having all the calls but then barely get any in the post season
Naw new rules don’t allow that why you think harden points went down
This Era too weak so I doubt if he'd be on the floor as often. Touch foul era is perfectly said. I don't knock what Iverson said. I dang near believe it
I wholeheartedly agree. Iverson would dominate with his speed and handles. He was healthy during a rough time period. He would most definitely dominate.
You are out of your mind. He would not have 43 points per game. SMH
43 points with 50 shots
@@kevkeisha34 PPG or 35 PPG he definitely will. Iverson whole career he had absolutely no room to operate. With spacing and shooters Iverson would be unstoppable
And Iverson would get exposed and hunted on defense every play. I’d rather have Trae young
People just want to prop up this era but this era is just soft. Full stop. They talk about his efficiency rating but they forget he played in a tougher era. These jokers nowadays just stand around the three point line and think that's great and beautiful basketbal. Smh. The fact that he wouldn't be playing nowadays because of his efficiency numbers, like Windhorst said, is exactly what is wrong with the NBA today. There is no more room for individual creativity.
you cant include his FG % from back then and then say "well today with those numbers he wont get the ball" ...he would be way more efficient in todays NBA cuz he can score just as much but much easier...he also does not need to shoot 3s, because he would constantly get foul calls like they do now and would most likely avg close to 10 FTs a game which would increase his efficiency a lot.
Ai is Kyrie Sr do you see Kyrie averaging 40 lol?
@@Sdninja619 im not saying hes going to get 40, im just saying he would be much more efficient with guys who are scared of contact and free throws are easier than ever... Kyrie also is much more finesse player where as AI will go to the rim with 0 F's given
@Sdninja619 I swear man all these old heads swear they'd be some kind of god in today's league.
These clowns dont underatand he wouldnt be playing with erice snow and guys that couldnt shoot
@@Ineedrentmoneyn none of em r on A.I's level still 😂😂😂
He avged 33 and 7 in 2006 sooo he would definitely do that now
Today’s era is different more zone and 3pt shooting. Rules are different and defense is smarter than ever. A.I. played in a low efficiency era so it fit perfectly for him but different era now
@@Nickgoneliehe wouldnt survive at 5'11 165lbs in this era
@@Nickgoneliedefense might be smarter but no one is playing defense HAHAHA
@@RobinXloneThis is the small ball era
@RobinXlone you being sarcastic?🤔
He would be more efficient due to the increased spacing on the court not to mention he would live at the foul line
Am I imagining things or didn't Allen Iverson routinely lead the whole league in scoring during his prime beating out both saq and kobe in their prime. I remember saq and kobe would be around 25 ppg and Iverson would have 30ppg. Of course he'd average 43 points easy. Paint is less dangerous now and his midrange was killer. He would even have less injuries. I'm confused how this is even a debate...
Well my friend, people don’t have basketball knowledge do they
No he wouldnt average 43, probably more like 35
moron. Curry is Way better and shoots 3s, he can’t average close to 40. Harden was the only close one and he’s taller than iverson and isod every possession
Exaggerating isn't your thing huh?@@chadwellington2524
@@xJetx you do not have any knowledge if you for a second even entertain the idea that he could average 43ppg in todays game, thats just stupid.
Ain't no defense being played in today's game, Iverson is right 🤝🏽
He's wrong in every way imaginable lol
Lmao y’all kill me with this nonchalant take
A lot of you casuals really don’t know basketball and the takes are based on who you like
No he’s not because it would hurt his team. Logically he can avg 43 but no good team would even allow him to ballhog in a 3pt shooting era. He’s gonna have to pass the ball to play winning basketball. Trust that lebron can avg 50 if he wanted to but it would be detrimental to his own team.
He was fast and played in slow era ( 1990s and 2000s) !
Today, almost everyone is fast and can shoot 3s !
Iverson just speaking facts! PERIOD
Iverson won 4 scoring titles when KG, Shaq, Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Melo, Duncan, McGrady, Carter, Dirk, and many more were in their primes. He may not average exactly 43, but he definitely could lead the league in scoring by a good margin. He got to the basket when teams had legit PF's and Centers at will. With the floor being spaced with tons of small ball players he would get and finish at the rim much easier. Plus most of the top players in the league still score in the mid range, and he would have his way there also. He could shoot 3's, and his speed off the dribble would give him lots of open looks. The thing that folks forget is he was relentless, and his mindset was attack at all times. He was a much more efficient scorer than Kyrie, even though Kyrie is more nuanced. Iverson would be un-guardable in this era, much more so than in his era. Defenders aren't the same as they were even with the floor being littered with guards and forwards, and if he had decent shooters around him it would be over. He's a much better scorer than any current player in the league even with his inefficiency.
@Paul.Burrell...Excellent analysis, succinct accurate and ridiculously on point in all aspects. You are a true Basketball Savant. A.I would dominate "today's game" nuance and all especially with such B.S. defensive standards and the lack of desire and pride to play any defense whatsoever. Facts X's 💯💪💯.
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Pillsbury Dough Boy talking basketball. LMAO
Doughboy definitely has more money than you, why hate on Windy....
In todays NBA, AI will get the whole team fouled out. Players too soft, refs too soft. Period.
There’s less fouls today on more possessions then when AI played
That doesn't even make any sense LOL
Lol your funny
Y’all use the term soft too loosely
Blame Adam Silver, it’s his fault more than the players
If Ja Morant get buckets the way he do, it’s no doubt AI could do the same. The man is a killer
Ja ain't average in 40
@@str8duval Ja ain’t AI
@@forgottennewsclipsnigga he better than AI goofy tf😭😭😭
Luka is a better comparison, Iverson said it himself.
@@leblubblab in terms of size, mentality and scoring spots, I think Ja is better
Iverson is cooking in this honey milk era 🤷🏾♂️🤣🤣🤣
Kobe: "We should all be fortunate Iverson wasn't 6'5"
Facts
People just want to prop up this era but this era is just soft. Full stop. They talk about his efficiency rating but they forget he played in a tougher era. These jokers nowadays just stand around the three point line and think that's great and beautiful basketbal. Smh. The fact that he wouldn't be playing nowadays because of his efficiency numbers, like Windhorst said, is exactly what is wrong with the NBA today. There is no more room for individual creativity.
They should've been fortunate MJ wasn't 6'8 250 lbs 😂
@@mackman3294gawk gawk gawk, put his meat down lil bro
We should all be fortunate lebron can't shoot like steph. That narrative could be given to literally every top player, every player has a weakness, deal with it.
People criticize his efficiency when in that era efficiency was all-around low. In his prime he averaged - 29pts on .425% on 24 shots in 41mpg. In the late-90s and early 00's most all-star guards were shooting around 45% so while his efficiency was not the best, it was still close to par. He relied mostly on drives/lay-ups and mid-range 2's, which in today's game he would absolutely flourish driving the ball with absolutely no deterrent in the paint or hand-checking. Plus players back then weren't training to shoot 3's like they do now. While he was a mediocre 3-point shooter, I bet he would be able to shoot around 35-38% in today's game. His likely modern day comp would be SGA for sure, but much faster and more athletic.
he was told by his coach that his the only chance they have to win being the only scorer
@@Coldskin1wouldnt work in todays era. he'd get shut down as the only scorer. teams would not care ab winning theyd just make sure to not let him score
A.i is really saying league is soft and has no defense, the 43 was just an exaggeration.
He can lol
It was a figure of speech but he would definitely be able to get to 35 to 38
@weinaracewarandslaverystar340 he's not averaging 38 maybe one season of 34 or 35
I don’t think he was exaggerating he averaged 33+ in 2005 in this era easy 40+
Look at what luka is averaging. I believe he could do 45 or 50 he was attacking non stop and they would hammer him. He kept coming. Look at the all star game. That todays nba no dogs
Facts and there is no “real” big man in the league today besides a few . He averaged like 30 in multiple seasons.
There's always been a big man on every team and just a few great ones. Iverson didn't play in the best ERA of 7 Footers
@@str8duval what are you talking about ?I’m talking today the centers on teams are like 6’9 compared to back when a.i played pf’s were like 6’10 alone, so centers were 7 ft or more .
Taking more than half his team’s shots while making about a third of them
@@str8duvalif it weren't for Embiid, Jokic, and Porzingis the center would be obsolete now. Teams started going smaller for pace because guys like Jokic are too slow to get back on defense.
Iverson would scorch these centers nows and the paint defense is weaker too.
@@cardpuller17 💯
He said what he said AND WE ALL BELIEVE HIM HE IS THE ANSWER 🤷🏾♂️💯
Sometimes the answer be wrong😅
@@str8duvalI disagree, an answer is the solution to a problem. A “wrong answer” is just a a wrong response.
Wrong answer 😂😂😂
0 rings 🤣
@@KnownUnknown19lol nah bruh the fact that you have to put the word wrong, in before the word answer makes that a moot point
@@KnownUnknown19 if the answer spent most of his career struggling to get out of the first and second round then it probably wasn't the right answer to begin with
Always folly to talk about what would happen in different time periods-but for Windehorst to say Iverson wouldn’t be able to jack-up shots in todays game is crazy being that is what 90% of the players do now
these players that your saying jack up shots, are not jacking up shots😂 it isnt jacking up shots when you make them efficiently 😂learn the meaning of that phrase
@@100pBuggin & Iverson wasn’t just throwing up shots he was MAKING em! Curry shoots around 12-15 3’s a game & makes slightly under half of them most games. Doesn’t make him any less of a player. Don’t come at me, young bull
@@100pBuggin So Cam Thomas doesn't jack up shots? Iverson didn't just jack up bad shots. He took much better shots than given credit for, he was tripled team nightly also, which folks always seem to forget. That wouldn't happen today which would allow him to score at will. Go watch his highlights and you'll see he wasn't taking anywhere near as bad of shots that are currently being taken by way less players in every NBA game.
@@Paul.Burrellbad shots are relative. players now are way better shooters than iverson was. he was never a good shooter he never had great mechanics n he had bad shot selection. Niggas aren't 5'11 165lbs so its not a bad shot for them
bro curry shoots 3s😂curry is shooting very contested 3s at a higher percentage than iverson shot middys there is a BIG difference and of course he was making them but he shot well below average at 42%@@ShadomanG
Obviously AI would be more efficient in the modern game. The main reason modern NBA players are more efficient is because of the spacing, the lack of defense including an overall lack of effort on that end of the court, and the way the game is played. Teams do actually play defense in SHORT SPURTS in some games in today's game and you see the offense instantly become less efficient, missing shot after shot, turning the ball over, and the pace slows dramatically. And the minute the defense lets up the pace and efficiency picks right back up.
the lack of effort has only gone down because of spacing, when there is this much spacing, it is near impossible to play good defense. when you have to guard every player past the 3 point line it is impossible to be able to keep up. Every superstar REQUIRES a double team or else they are scoring 40+ ppg and guess what, when you have to double then that leaves someone open, you pass to that man and now everyone is in rotation, and with the amount of space it is impossible to close out on players. Defense is NOT worse today than it was before, things evolve over time they do not devolve.
@@100pBuggin near impossible? No it's not. Not only is effort an issue, so is lack of fundamentals. Help defense isn't taught anymore. People constantly have their back to the basketball, a HUGE no-no. They don't fill the gaps on drives correctly. They don't see their man and the ball when defending. They gamble a TON. Basically everything you're taught in middle school, they aren't doing.
Not to mention a lot of teams play drop coverage on screens, which basically ensures the offense is getting a good look out of it instead of hedging or icing the screen to take it away. Don't even get me started on transition defense. Mofos don't even know how to do that either.
bro things evolve over time they do not devolve. Coaches are not getting paid millions to teach their team bad defense lmao, a lot of it has to do with statistics as well. It may be better to not help on someone attacking the rim because the alternative is a wide open 3 which is worth more points than a drive to the rim. A LOT of it is statistics. it may look like bad defense but it is not. These coaching staffs and schemes are levels ahead of what theyve ever been because of statistics. Once again humans learn from the past and evolve, we do not devolve.@@WutTheDeuceGaming
Legs is hating hard asf 😂
Legs spitting facts
A.I. was a str8 bucket, try 45-50 pts....🥶
Your delusion 🤣
If Kevin Durant can’t what makes you think A.I. can?
Who could guard AI now a days these guys are insane 😂
And Iverson would get exposed and hunted on defense every play. I’d rather have Trae young
what defense?? :D there is no defense this era.
@@mattsell2361
@@mattsell2361 Hunted on defense?! By who? Trae Young?? 😂😂😂
@@mattsell2361hunted…bro that would consist of players playing defense.
He’d foul out before he could average 30. He wouldn’t be able to hide in today’s era
Kobe Bryant was low efficiency as well guys. Iverson shot 43% give or take. Bryant shot 45% give or take. They don't say those things about Kobe Bryant. I think we need to be fair across the board with these players. Damian Lillard is considered a great shooter and he is also under 45% in his career and under 40% from three. Some players are remembered more favorably than others I guess.
I think you gents completely missed the point.. his game would have adapted to the times as All players have or would have. No defense being played that’s a layup every time. No hand checking or physicality! Shooting percentage goes up.. he’d torch this new league
and AI would be taking 100 shots per game in todays NBA.
This round boy sound crazy talking bout AI
He’s still taking fax
Egos bursting from these retired pros
Everybody keep talking about efficiency. KD one of the most efficient players of all time…that got him no where until he linked up with Steph Curry😂
Ja Morant’s career averages FG% .472, 3P% .318 and PPG 22.5
Iverson career average FG% .425, 3P% .313 and PPG 26.7
They might have to rethink that.
lol @ porkchop over here telling AI what he'd do.
No doubt. Today's defense is so soft.
So ai is a better scorer than anyone currently in the league? FOH 🤣
so why isn't Giannis averaging 43? Iverson is delusional.
Players are to skilled now on offense, strategies are down to a science at attacking a defense, and the rules favor the offense. Doesn’t mean defenses are soft, the odds are stacked against a defense in todays game
If kyrie aint avereging 40 he wouldn't either lmfao, kyrie more versatile and got nearly every aspect that AI had
@@SkidiPatPat Yes. So is Jordan.
Iverson was the only offensive option. What was he supposed to do?? Kick it to Eric Snow for 20 shots😂😂😂 yeah right
Aaron McKie
@@hankarmentroutjr6896he played multiple seasons with both.
@@joshuagolub8899 and those were the good players
@@hankarmentroutjr6896exactly but nowhere near Great! Slightly above Average is reality
People keep saying "You've got to hit the three. You've got to make 3s" Yet every era has a midrange scorer that is arguably the best player in the game. Shai barely shoots threes and he's averaging 31 a game. I don't think AI could average 43 but I think he could definitely get 35 a game in today's league.
You also underestimate that EVERYONE's field goal percentage was down. Every team was barely putting shooters out there. Multiple 7 footers camping the basket at all times. Allen Iverson with this space being guarded on an island with no rim protection? He's getting to the basket whenever he wants...
😂 u tripping u must've forgot
People are in love with the 3 and that’s why Steph is hold in such a high regard, the reality is that plenty players in the league give you the same efficiency in the league when it comes to PPG but the 3s just look better and are more fascinating to people.
Ai would be a perennial MVP candidate in todays nba for sure
If you avg 23 shots a game and 11 fts it would be easy to get 40 especially in todays game iverson would “have too” take about 6 3s at least per game
He would hit at least 2
He would avg 42 3 6 off 46 percent
@@TheRealLeonardWashington Kevin Durant highest PPG is 32. What makes you clowns think Allen Iverson is averaging 11 more points than KD at his best🤡🤡🤡
Lebron/Curry/KD are not averaging 40 but they're the top 5 players today, AI is cappin
Iverson would definitely so would kobe,Tmac,Vince,Ray Allen,Shaq,Duncan,KG,Ginoblii,Dirk,Dwade,Paul P,
The best scorers in 2024 aren’t averaging 40
In his heyday, when he drove to the basket, guys like Shaq, Mourning, Motumbo , ewing were waiting for him. Non of the type of players mentioned above no longer exists, add to the softest rules in history, Iverson would easily average 40 plus points today.
Lmao y'all just say anything, there's easily 10 guards in the nba today who are better or at least more taletened scorers than A.I if none of them are averaging 40 what fairy tale do you live in where 6'1 A.I is averaging 40 in today's game
Allen Iverson was basically a slimmer, more athletic Kemba Walker. I agree with Legler that he wouldn't get close to 40 because his 3 point shot was only above average. I think he'd be a defensive liability too because he'd get called for a lot more fouls than he did when he played, and his steals would go down significantly.
@@quxncy9492!!!!!!!!!!
Mourning was like 6'8, Gobert is bigger and longer than every name you just mentioned.
@@quxncy9492lol saying there is 10 guards better than ai is laughable 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah y’all think Westbrook used to get killed on twitter for ballhogging and bad shot selection Iverson would be trending every other game
difference is iverson could shoot
@@chadwellington2524Iverson was a better shooter than Westbrook but he wasn't necessarily a great shooter
@@chadwellington2524 Gassing him up way too much, he's barely more efficient. He had a better midrange but was equally bad on 3s, which lead to him being basically ignored on the perimeter so that they can take away his drive.
The game is evolving, Steph changed the game, everyone can shoot threes even centers. Its hard to guard a wicked jump shot. Jordan played in 2003 and that fade away was still lethal against young players. Every player has a fade away , handles, and defense.
This reporter is acting like all the top scorers today are all shooting above 50% lol
Ai getting 36-37
Facts...He played in a aggressive and finesse era. it was balance...Today, its all finesse. No resistance at all....He would dominate...
He thinks he would just drive to the cup and do as he pleases, these guys today have a different level of athletisim, plus they don't send high volume scorers to the line every time they get contact, especially little guys, ask Curry.
If that were true two of the most unathletic guys ever, Luka and Jokic, wouldn't own the league. If these "uber athletes" you speak of were shutting down slower/less athletic guys. AI would get to the cup as he pleases and fouling is the only way to stop it. The smartest thing they could do is treat him like Westbrick or anyone else that can't shoot well and make him take open 3s.
'how far will they go windy?"
"we'll have to see"
great take windhorst. how can i get your job?
Lmao 😂
Windhorst is absolutely correct. Iverson was a bigger shot chucker than Kobe. Both were also very inefficient.
Right .... Lebron, Curry, Durant, Giannis, etc ... have never averaged anything like that and he thinks he'll be that dominant? C'mon man smdh
I love AI but he ain’t doing that with that % and shot selection. 😂😂😂
No defense these days tho
Wrong, he shot a lower percentage cause they played DEFENSE back them. Now he'd score at will.
Iverson is not exaggerating either. He’d get at least 15 off free throws in todays NBA. If he could average over 30 multiple times while playing in the NBA with all that defense then he can def do it now.
These older players need to stop. Iverson was great but he doeant hold a candle to some of these guards today. He was great in the time he played.
Here you go with the needing 3s. Omg. You don’t need to hunt 3s to score big numbers
48 pts against Shaq and Kobe in the playoffs!!! Get the scrubs off the show
He took 41 shots that game.
@@zcam7939in “Mike Tomlin’s Voice” , “WE DO NOT CARE”!! 😆
He'd probably have a handful of 40 plus points a season... but not 45 points a game
A.I. was relentless and big men are away from the basket now. He averaged 30 in his era, 43 is possible in this era
Allen Iverson had over 40 points in eight consecutive games during his rookie year in 1996; it might be possible. Iverson was a dog, and he was very explosive off the dribble
“but not 45 points a game” good thing he said 43
@@markjackson6431 and he ain’t averaging 43 either
Lots of stars would average 40 if they talking 22 to 26 shots per game. So what we talking about???
Make that 50.....
No.
@@TheChristian50 53? lol
@@ft3989 think he meant 55
I agree with this assessment
Maybe he would average 28-32 pts but definitely not 40+
People seem to forget how inefficient he was
You’re wild.
Inefficient because of defense…there’s minimal defense in this era.
@@adamyang1187 inefficient against defenses with a lot less athleticism.
u telling me KD or embiid arent avg 35ppg and AI saying he can avg 43ppg? lmao
The 2000s were the best decade for defense statistically and AI averaged 33 in 05. I think he underestimated what he would average with the way defense is played now.
The 2000s were the best decade for defense but the current game is the best age for efficiency. Yeah AI averaged 30+ in the early 2000s but he did it barely shooting 40% from the field. Somebody that inefficient right now can’t even get real playing time
@@jamiethomas5849 So you’re saying AI wouldn’t get playing time?
@@JonSnowsGhosthe’s not averaging over 40 let it go
@@JonSnowsGhosthe’d be Russell Westbrook now. Better yet he’d be the AI that was on the Grizzlies. The game has changed and that heavy isolation ball dominant style doesn’t win now for one and for two no coach/ analytics department is going to allow it
I dont think he'd average anywhere near 43, but he'd certainly get to the line way more. Probably mid 30s at his best.
It’s interesting cuz AI is a career 43ish% shooter. That in today’s nba is very inefficient. And he’s a small guard. So like what exactly is he? Trae Young without the passing? Jalen Green with a greener light?
Career 43% isnt even that bad. You’re trippin man
Just say you dont understand basketball.. Iverson was a master at getting by his man, all he's saying is that in TODAYS NO CONTACT league and illegal defense he'd live in the paint and his open spots. If Trae Young can abuse defenders and pull mid range which is what Iverson made a living off of then he'd surely score way more than he did while being grabbed,pulled and cloethelined mid air in the 90's. Kids say the darndest things these days
@@unknowncat5000 it’s pretty bad by today’s standards. Jayson Tatum shoots 47% and ppl are saying he needs to be more efficient. He like Windy said. A shot chucker.
prime Allen Iverson will destroy other player in today's nba
I love how every year we're talking about "record breaking efficiency". C'mon Windy, we all know why that is. NO DEFENSE is being played and everyone is fouled whenever someone breathes on them. You cannot compare Embiid to Iverson, LOL.
Fact of the matter is, he wouldn't need to shoot 3s. Again, can't be touched and he was unguardable on the perimeter. He's feasting at the line in todays NBA. Not only that, we saw his efficiency significantly increase while on a better team in Denver. He was still averaging 40 mins per game, his shots went way down and his % went up.
He was also consistently averaging between 8-10 free throws per game, that number gets to 15 in today's defenseless NBA. Take another look at the eras for a second as well. He played in an era that was LOADED with defensive big men. Todays era is about stretch big men, who is stopping him when he gets to the hole? Jokic? LOL.
Philly's second best offensive player was Aaron Mckie, and he won a 6th man award while scoring a whopping 11.6 points per game. That was one of three seasons where he actually scored 10+ per game btw. That Philly team had to have been one of the worst assembled offensive teams of that era, yet were constantly in the playoffs because of AI's dominance.
If Iverson gets 43 all middy and lays his time would get blown out easily. Also he woulf developed with the times he would be shooting more but ai wasn't efficient at all
He's totally right. When defense was played in his Era he got knocked down and fought hard. In today's league he'd probably be like lead point average and free throes 😂
Naw I disagree, Iverson is scoring above 50 😂
On 2k24
Legler is 101% wrong! A great player like AI would adjust to anything. This era has no legit defense and handchecks let alone abig man that like Mourning, Ewing, Shaq, Olajuwon, Mutombo, Duncan, etc that protects the rim physically on a regular basis and not afraid to get posterized.
Stop with this bs! And seriously? This overrated handchecking narrative again? Do you even know what type of defense this is? The NBA removed the handchecking in 2005 and AI never averaged near 40 ppg, stop clowning!
@@draspenyeah handchecking is the most overrated rule ever. Old heads act like you could completely shut people down. Guards still scored back then just fine
@@mattsell2361 the OP is not even an old head. He just reads about those things around the internet and thinks he knows all of it already.
@@draspen yeah the point I always go to is Michael Adam’s was an all star in the 90s who shot a lot of 3s for his era and was smaller then Steph. If handchecking didn’t stop him, it definitely ain’t stopping like any good nba player today. Imagine thinking you can stop Steph or Luka just because of handchecking. And defenders especially in the playoffs basically still do handcheck. People just don’t understand rules and think objectively
Just reading all your messages makes me want to do this!🤦🏽♂️
You guys doesnt have a clue what you talking about. Lawd have mercy!
Michael Adams is a one time all-star for crying out loud and he is nowhere near AI or Steph is.. keep reaching!
AI is a legend like the Great Kobe said yall should’ve been lucky he wasn’t 6’5 💯
Only one man in NBA history averaged over 40ppg for a season!
Maybe 35-38ish but highly doubt 43
While the 43 number is high, whoever thinks that AI couldn't average it in today's game is either too young and didn't watch him play, is a hater of AI or simply doesn't know basketball!
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They need to stop! AI would average 35-40 easily. He played in an era when they game was harder, and at his best he averaged 33 a game the same year Kobe averaged 35. Dude was a scoring machine.
Why isn’t Luka averaging 40? Why didn’t prime Harden average 40?
“Legs” said only 2 guys have gotten to 35. Does he realize Iverson got to 33 on 45% shooting when rules changed and he wasn’t in his prime? Harden shot 4/12 from 3, Iverson shot 1/3 from 3. That’s 33%. Harden is a less efficient version of Iverson. They just say anything on this channel. I’m only here because a RUclipsr reacted to this and I needed the source. BOYCOTT ESPN GARBAGE ANALYSIS
I completely concur. Iverson's speed and handling would be unmatched. He was in good health throughout a difficult time. He would undoubtedly be in control.
What do you mean unmatched? Do Maxey, Kyrie and Fox not exist anymore?
@@andrerocky8092unmatched mean unprecedented
@@guessthelogo except that’s not the case anymore because we’ve seen players Derrick Rose, John Wall, Kyrie Irving, D. Fox, Tyrese Maxey, Trae Young, the list goes on. What AI was athletically and ball handling wise is no longer uncommon
Yes thanks@@andrerocky8092
SMH, former players trying so hard to destroy the current NBA. Sad, we are our worst enemies...jealousy and envy is driving these former players. Only Larry Bird seems to be supporting the current NBA, because he knows current players have far better skills than previous generations.
In this era because of the three ball AI would have perfected it like every other part of his game. That's another thing people overlook. He wasn't THAT BAD of a three shooter TBH. The handle and how hard he played attacking the paint on the dribble, man I say 40-45 per game is actually realistic if he did play in this era.
Lower efficiency is because they actually had some sort of defensive minded players at the time.
In today’s game the amount of freedom oh man lol.
Freedom doesn't equal no defense . That's a casual take
@@str8duval Yeah, it’s just lackluster asf.
He is 100% saying the truth, Yes Iverson.. NBA is not a basketball game no more.
A player needs 45 games of 40+ to average 40ppg.
AI would do that easily
@@kevinhawkins20no he would not
AI was doing that off mid range jumpers and clogged paint finishes in todays game… yes he would
@@lilverson1333 LMAOO stop being delusional. Wilt is the only player with over 40 games. Harden is the only player with more than 20 in the last 10 years.
JORDAN Definitely could.
Prime Iverson (2005) would be a monster in this league.Iverson lived in the paint, and refs blowing whistles on a tap on an arm. Iverson was a high percentage free throw shooter so he will dominate in that category alone. Iverson also developed a deadly mid range at the peak of his career and also has a fast release. Today NBA players imitate Iverson step back. What people don’t notice why it was hard to guard his step back, because it was in all one motion he’s step back was so smooth. A lot of players step back reposition there feet then shoot. Iverson step back was so lethal because he didnt have to reposition he feet he would just cross left or right step back and smoothly going into a jump shot. No pause no reposition everything was just in one motion. His step back was pure art, and mastered at it especially during his short stint with Denver. Iverson would easily average over 30ppg
He would definitely be living at the line. That’s for sure
Iverson could easily score 43 per game. No one can stop him with the spacing era
AI could get by anybody, I mean ANYBODY ... he made a living in the paint. The point is that nobody is waiting for him in the middle. Obviously, he'd have to work on his jumper, get used to taking non-contested 3s, but I think he could adapt.
Adapt, yes. Average 43 aint no way
@@zoesmith231 maybe not, but he could adapt and thrive in today's NBA game. No different than Kyrie or Fox can
@@zoesmith231I mean he’s the answer
I’m so glad reasonable and logical baseball minds are having this discussion. Not just fanboys trying to say something cool about one of their favorite players.
AI’s shooting percentage would be way higher without that many big forwards or centers that protect the rim
Tim forgot the most thing on how he could. Iverson would take way less hits going to the paint. No one in today's game could guard him.
Why are these people talking like AI wouldn't improve the three point shot % He had?
37/38 for sure. Don’t talk about his era and his efficiency metrics and then just assume he couldn’t adapt to this era. His 3 pt shot would be better, he’d take less long twos, get to the ft line more, and take advantage of less physicality in the defense. Maybe 43 isn’t realistic but he definitely could he just likely wouldn’t aim to do that
Prime Allen Iverson from '96 to circa '03 averages 35+ easily because
1) He was a ballhog
2) He was a great FT shooter
3) He'd be allowed to take 40 shots a game because every game goes at an up tempo pace nowadays
He probably would. He did put up a career 26.7 ppg in the hand checking era and when they'd wait on him to drive to the rim.
To Windy's point, he was a low efficiency player so whatever his usage rate was then wouldn't really be a factor now and the Leg's point yes he would need to work on his 3 ball but his middy was always money and players today still use it. He making it sound like they outlawed the middy.
The one thing they didn't talk about was the spacing on the floor.
Wilt Chamberlain is the only player to average 40 in a season. No one has 40-50 games of 40+ scoring to average 40 per game.
You missed what else they said. Teams don’t play isolation and heavy usage players like they did in Iversons time. Yeah I’m sure he could score 40 points a game if he wanted to and the team gave him the ball to score every possession but so could a ton of players. But that’s not efficient and no team plays like that anymore
@@g.o.a.tsports2880 That's why I used the word probably in my statement.
@@mattsell2361 Actrually, I didn't miss anything they said. Everything you blathered boils down to two words: Usage rate.
@@jmcgee39 yeah and that’s the only words you need to know for why iverson wouldn’t average 40
Iverson would destroy the league especially with walking/traveling league. Also they’re allowed to carry the ball. Dude would be unstoppable.
The lack of defense and the fact that players can shoot 15 3p in a game. Yeah he would go nuts. Iverson played the way he did because of the era he played in
Yall see how that applies to Iverson but not the 90’s players
When no one guards and factor in the warrior AI was, 43 is a very conservative estimate.
A.I. didn't tell a lie. He'd absolutely be able to average 40+ points.
What has Embiid ever done in the playoffs to suggest that the Sixers can threaten anyone in the East even if he does come back? 🤔
Players scoring 70 at all in a game is crazy to me. So A.I. averaging 43 is much but about 35 for sure. And yes his game would have to be different in thos day in age but not hard for a lot of guys i could name that could adapt to this game today no problem.
The thing is y’all always say the players from back then could adapt to todays game but the players today couldn’t adapt back then lol.. the double standards is crazy, that’s why I can’t listen to the old heads anymore but it’s pure emotions instead of facts
This dude was a legit running back. Aside from the speed and shiftiness, his relentlessness would definitely make him dominant. Imagine Westbrook with a better finish and shooting. With a stretch 4 and a stretch 5, driving lanes would be extra wide for him. If big men couldn't stop him them, who would stop him now? But having said that, it would take somebody like Mike D'Antoni with his "7 seconds or less" offense to get him to average 40. He ain't gonna win, but I believe he would average 40.
What's really funny (and a bit disappointing) about this discussion is that they aren't necessarily saying Iverson couldn't average 40+ because of talent. They're basically saying that in today's league, the team simply wouldn't allow him to play 41 minutes per game like he did in the past. This mindset kind of shows the weakness in today's game and how many player lack the love of actually being in the NBA. Guys like Iverson, Kobe, Jordan, Tim Duncan and others considered a badge of honor to put in 40 minutes per game and 82 games a season if they were physically able. But today's players are largely pampered and still can't give 35 minutes per game.
One thing to note, Iverson's 3pt efficiency would go up because he'd be defended far less on the perimeter. Also, in today's NBA, guys are average and even mediocre 3pt shooters but still shoot a ton of threes. If AI played 40 minutes per game and shot 7 threes per game in addition to drives and free throws, he'd easily average 40
What are you watching ?
Go watch games from 1990s( Yo can watch on RUclips)!
They were slow.
Today, pace was faster.
1990s , defence was in the paint/in the key.
They could shoot for 3 without defence.
But they were weak for 3FG.
NBA Team avg.
Free Throw Attempts Per Game
2023/24 -22.7
1995/96 - 26.4