Was working on this very topic tonight. Thank you for verifying what I did with mine. Very well done video and I'm sure I speak for us all when I thank you for taking the time to put together very good, and Clear videos......THANK YOU!!!!
Thank you thank you! Building my first quad with a Naze32, and I was wondering how I was going to power it. You explained all I needed to know (for now) quite clearly!
As I use the light naze32, I only use 1 ESC with power to the Naze, all the others just have the signal attached in one 3 pin connector. The +/- wires are removed, or used to power other equipment, such as a board cam. As the light Naze uses only PPM, the receiver must also have it's +/- connected to power the Rx.The Naze dosen't seem to have a problem doing this. It's much lighter this way, you eliminate 6 wires from the ESC's and are only using 3 of the possible 15 for the receiver and don't need an extra component for power (BEC). This may not be too relevant on a larger quad, but on a 250 sized quad, it's all about shaving off weight as the props are much less efficient. Although I'm not 100% on range (certainly over that of your FPV gear) the Orange 615x is an excellent spektrum compatible PPM Rx, PPM on the battery channel, and seems to survive having no case and shrink wrapped well, it's also cheap! I do recommend switching over to PPM, as it makes wiring so much easier, cleaner and lighter. Can we see a video on how to set the Naze up for PPM to compare?
PPM usage and configuration is covered in the next video and I make the changeover to PPM using the R615x to get all the other Naze32 receiver pins back for later videos (GPS/LEDS etc.). Happy flying!
Hi Painless. I followed your clear video but still can't seem to power my rx with an external bec. I have a naze acro and 4 x 18a kiss esc so chose the external switching bec option. If I power the bec from my PDB on 3s I get a red light and 5.3v at the output but if I remove the signal pin and plug into a spare port on the naze it does not light up or give me any voltage on those pins on the board. The esc get power fine. I have tried just red wire, both red and black and also adding the red wire to one of the free signal pins on the kiss esc but same no light on the bec issue. I thought maybe bad bec as it's similar to your shown and a budget HK one but it powers servos and leds and seems stable under load. Cheers.
Just a quick note. I have been plugging my UBEC into the receiver and the naze32 would be powered through the PPM cable. I did try your suggestion of plugging the UBEC into the spare mototr inputs on the Naze32 but that didn't seem to work for me (I double checked the polarity) and my esc don't have BEC's so I went back to the way I had it and it works fine.
That will work as the 5v still makes it into the board. I use this method to power KK2.0 boards when Opto ESCs are used. The board should power up from having the cable plugged into the spare motor outputs though, check that the power lines are connected all the way down the outputs. Happy flying!
Works when not 9in the naze, doesn't work when plugged in the naze, still holds current under load. Totally lost, will try an old esc as a bec but something is not right. Plug and play I was told.
Excellent overview @Painless360, very clearly explained! It's a little confusing that HobbyKing would label those ESC's with the term "UBEC" since a UBEC by definition is a switched regulator while a BEC by definition is a linear regulator. But it sounds like those ESC's actually contain linear BEC circuits, regardless of the "UBEC" labeling?
+dronebrulee Actually using BEC and UBEC in that way isn't a standard. All those terms are used interchangeably in the hobby so you always need to read the specs. Happy flying!
oh,, yet again i find out something i didnt even know i needed to know, do i really need a spare channel or can i add the 5 volt supply to any of the servo plugs from an opto esc?.
Some where I thought I saw where the newer Naze32 FC allows for a direct 3-4s lipo input because this newer version has a built in regulator. I can't find much info about this topic. I'm going to build a 150 Blade quad with tiny Optio ESCs and would like to not add additional hardware(regulator). Can you find info as to how the connection is made and how you can tell if your Naze can have the higher input?
hey i am new to all this stuff. if i Connect 4 esc´s with a power out put off 5v each that will be 20 v right....? but from what i have read the board can only take 16v ? please baer with me ...... awsome and very informative videos
+JulleMor2307 Always a good idea to check but the CC3D series shows every step in building and a lot of it is stull useful when if you are using another flight controller.
Thanks for this! Im buying and opto esc and didnt notice thats a different esc if i didnt watch your video! If i understand it correctly so i need to put a switching bec to a spare... -then i that switching bec ill just put it to the power same as the esc?or i need seperate battery for my esc? - and is it possible to just remove the + wires in the esc? Was using naza all along so im ised to plug and play v2 rtf..... and now planning to build a mini quad woth naze32...thanks to your videos i have guide how to..
Hi There. Thanks for the post, as always very helpful. I've just fried my Naze32 (again) and I don't know why. I bought a power distribution board stackable above/below the Naze as it's the same size and it has a 5v output. I bought 4 OPTO 20amp ESC's plugging into my Naze and powered the Naze on a spare channel on the Naze board from the PDB (5v). It was working fine and suddenly it fried. My question is, is it okay to power the Naze via the PDB into just one channel? I suspect my soldering could have been the culprit but is there any other reason it could have fried? Thanks.
Hi Lee, I'm using OPTO ESC's so am trying to power the board through the 5v out on a distribution board. If I plug in the + and - from the distribution board to the + and - on the spare ESC pins (ESC 6 slot) the receiver will be powered but the Naze will be dead. However, if I remove number 1 ESC and replace it with the 5v from the distribution board, the naze will be powered but the RX will not! Any ideas here? Further info: RX is an Orange 615x connected via CPPM. If board is connected to computer through Micro USB and distribution board connnects to the naze via number 6 ESC pins, everything works perfectly on cleanflight. Distribution board was purchased from the nats but very similar to www.banggood.com/CC3D-flight-controller-5v-12v-bec-output-power-distribution-board-pcb-p-973352.html I tested the voltage output from the distribution board at 5.05v. PS, in the video, you connected the BEC to the TOP and centre pins, whereas my Naze suggests the top pin (closest to middle) is signal. I didnt want to test it under power, is that where I'm going wrong? Many thanks
+p33333te The other way to do this is connect the BEC to the battery connector on the radio receiver and let the power flow from the Rx to the FC. Best of luck.
+p33333te +Painless360 So can you guys tell me if im right here as i think you both know. Using opto ESC, I can power cc3d BEC/ZMR board and use 5v drop down for either receiver to FC or vise versa? This is where i have stopped. Also, do you know whether the CC3D BEC/ZMR is just PDB or also a FC?
I am building a hexacopter and using the HK Afro ESCs that do not come with a BEC. Are you sure that you can't power the flight controller from the RX as you can with the HK KK2 board? I would like to plug a UBEC into the RX.
I got a problem the ESC's I have are non BEC, I am using a naze32 acro and a CC3D pdb. The way I wired it up was I tied all the hot leads on the ESC's and soldered the to the 5v out on the pdb, and tied all the grounds to negative to the ground side of the pdb (not the 5v negative side). Before I power the board up will this work? I don't want to blow up the board or ESC's.
+jdj62464 From what I can understand from the description sounds ok. But I'd not have the FC plugged in and power up the model and check that the 5v is where you expect it.. Triple check the wiring one last time before plugging it in..
I have been having issues with NAZE seemingly shutting down....It always happens at full throttle...I cannot figure out whats going on because it has happened on different quads with different ESCs and BEC combos and its still happening...I suppose it could be a TX RX issue...
John Deckenbach Possibly, could be the voltage to the Rx dropping and it loosing connection. This is normally shown by status lights on the Rx after it comes back on. Servos under stress pull more than you think. I would power the Rx and flight controller from a dedicated switched BEC.
how will I be able to differentiate between linear and switched. if the item listing says they have built in bec should I assume they are linear? also what happens if I only plug the bec from ESC1 with linear ESCs. will that work? thanks
Hello Painless 360. I'm about to power my Naze 32 rev6 directly from the 5V pins on my PDB. I'm going to solder a Schottky onto the live wire, so the ESCs don't try to draw power from my USB, which I've learned is a common problem with the Naze. Anything else I should know? 3rd time lucky
I've not used Naze32 boards for a few years here. The only other piece of advice is be aware that most of the latest flight control software/Beta/Clean/iNavflight won't run with all the bells and whistles on a Naze32 anymore. It'll be fine for basic stabilization though. Best of luck with the build! :D
Thanks for all your help. It's my 1st build and I won't use tha Naze again. TBS, Kiss and Armattan, on my next 3. I've learned a lot, in a very short space of time.
How could I connect a Hex to a naze with 6 opto escs and power it with a BEC? I tried running the BEC power and ground through a connecter with the signal from the opto and it wont work...I cant believe that just didn't add a power pad that isn't part of the ESC connections...
John Deckenbach This is all part of the 'fun' of the Naze32. This board was designed to be a little FPV/Acro racer. You will need to connect the UBEC to a GND pad/pin (there are a few on the telemetry/Buzzer connections) and a 5v pad near the Boot pins. Best of luck..
Just a quick question if I may, im building a mini on 4s setup the motors are rates for 3s but are happy on 4s too after a lot of tests the escs are rated for 4s as per recommendation from the supplier of the mini quad kit he recommends I use a separate ubec to power the naze if I do this I would be removing all the + from the escs and tapping the ubec power from the pdb board which in turn provides naze 32 with 5 v then 5v output through ppm to my rx does that sound OK to yourself many thanks ?
Sounds like the ESCs have a simple linear BEC in them. As the linear circuit dumps the excess voltage as heat then any increase in the cell count has a dramatic affect on how hot the entire ESC gets due to the heat from the BEC. This sounds like a good idea and does give you the option to go back tot the supplier if you do it and one of the ESC still fails.. Happy flying!
+Painless360 I would think mc drone could use either ...a switching BEC instead or a linear BEC, A switching BEC would be more efficient and would avoid the heat. Interesting way of getting power to the NAZE32. I am thinking of getting the power from an OSDoge since they are stackable. I believe, I need to check, that stacking the OSDoge send power through the RX as well to power the NAZE32. If so I could avoid the OSD you typically use.
It shouldn't be, hopefully. If everything still works then you've got away with it. The most common mistake is connecting all of the outputs from the switched BECs together, this is not recommended but if they are all within a close tolerance on the output voltages should survive this. Hope this helps.
DeadmiXSoft First, make sure you know what you have! You should be able to, since you ordered it. The safe thing would be to remove the 5V wire from all but one connector. It's "safe" in the sense that your BECs can't fight each other, but you will lose the redundancy of multiple BECs. But as long as you don't drive servos the current a single BEC can deliver should be easily enough for the flight controller and receiver.
So i got my package and, ok, it are really not expensive things, there a 4 SK12A ESC's . i don't know if there is a bec, ubec or something else, but it doesnt matter to the board, the Board ( MW SE V3.0) has a extra socket for power, so i could take the power from only one ESC. thank you all for this
hi, don't know if anyone can help me out. I'm using the force 200 kingkong set to build my first drone. this comes with opto ESC's and one seperate BEC to power the flight controller. I've struggled to find an answer to this but will I need another seperate UBEC to power my receiver? I originally thought that it got its power through being connected to the flight controller but I stumbled across people using ESC's and all sorts to power the receivers. the kit comes with a mini cc3d. Thanks.
+AARON ARRINGTON Welcome to the channel, I see you're not a subscriber. All of the videos on here are in playlists and we have a number on the CC3D and revo boards as well as a series 'Introduction to Remote Control' that covers all of the basics. The most useful one will be here - ruclips.net/video/p1EhSYNa0pM/видео.html
Hi ! Painless electronic master :) thanks for this video and all the others, following you since quite a while, you already gave me great infos in the past.. Great job and thanks again... I was checking in the comments to see if somebody already asked the question but apparently not, so here it is : I have no Bec ( switched ) and i m using for this configuration optos ... Can i use a spare linear esc that i have left, to provide the 5v volts to the board like you showed for a basic bec ? This one says BEC 2 Amps on it .. Thx Have a good one
You could but I wouldn't. See how we do it in the latest series 'Quadcopter building for beginners' series or the video ruclips.net/video/o7L_Woeu38Q/видео.html may help. I'd use a PDB with an integral BEC or get a dedicated switched BEC to power everything. The spare ESC will not like the output stage for the motor not being connected to anything.. Best of luck!
I understand i ll get a dedicated switched bec, thank you very much for your time. And thanks for all your videos, and the way you re doing them, it can t be more clear :)
what's the point about using an external bec? i mean it can be justified with airplanes so that in case of problem with main battery you could anyway be able to land safetly...but with copters will always drop like a stone
While it is true that copters can't float for toffee there are a few reason why having an external BEC can be useful - Most of the cheaper ESCs used for multirotors have simple or lower current BEC circuits in them. With the newer boards using additional components like radios, receivers, LED strips, sonar devices, OSDs etc. the current needed for all of the flight electronics running on the 5v supply can quickly overtake what the integrated BEC can reliably provide. The second reason is due to the fact that the BECs (particular the linear ones) produce a lot of heat when running 4s or higher batteries so using an external specialist BEC that can handle the higher voltages from the LIPO pack easily, provides less heat in the ESC itself (a good thing) and it also allows us to use higher quality, more efficient switched BECs to deliver the 5v and 4+ amps needed. And finally Opto ESCs don't have an integrated BEC at all so you need something to provide the +5v needed to power everything... Hope this makes sense and goes some way to answering the question. Happy flying!
that's make a lot of sense...thanks for that and for your usefull tutorials...i only fly with Naza for their semplicity but i will give to naze32 a try in the build of my 250 racer quad. thanks dude!
Very well explained... Although I only use the signal wires from all four ESCs. Three into one connector and plugged in horizontally on the signal pins. I then use a small adjustable BEC from the battery set to 5v in another connector with the remaining signal wire vertically. I found one ESC was getting warmer than the others using the traditional methods. May have been a coincidence. May have been because as you mentioned in another answer that it draws a lot of power with LEDs, FPV etc. These are the type BECs I use which are dirt cheap and weigh next to nothing and are great for powering camera as well... www.ebay.com.au/itm/281435847847?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Fug Bucker hi, it is common to have one of the ESCs doing the most work supplying the board with 5v. Linear BECs will cope with it but switching BECs less so. Happy flying!
i have 20amp escs without bec, the servo lead( connecting the esc to the naze) has only a yellow wire and a brown wire but no middle red wire. can i use the 5 volts from my pdb to power the naze? thanks !
Was working on this very topic tonight. Thank you for verifying what I did with mine. Very well done video and I'm sure I speak for us all when I thank you for taking the time to put together very good, and Clear videos......THANK YOU!!!!
PERFECT! Just bought some OPTO ESC's for my mini quad and thanks to this video I'll be able to get out and fly straight away!
Thank you :)
Thank you thank you! Building my first quad with a Naze32, and I was wondering how I was going to power it. You explained all I needed to know (for now) quite clearly!
+Jon Steel (AltxF4) Great! Best of luck with the build and happy flying!
Just what I was looking for. Clearly explained and much helpful.
Thank you very much.
I just subscribed thanks for the info... your one of the most informative channels out there... thanks for the in depth explaination
Thank youuu . I was looking for this explanation for hrs . You saved me thanks
Good job. I was realy lost until a found your channel.
Thanks brother!
Perfect! I was wondering if the afro 12 amp esc needed to to have wires removed for the naze32, And it does not because it is a linear bec. Thanks!
Thanks for an awesome video you explained the use of a bec/ubec excellently.
Great information and very helpful (as usual!) Thank you :)
As I use the light naze32, I only use 1 ESC with power to the Naze, all the others just have the signal attached in one 3 pin connector. The +/- wires are removed, or used to power other equipment, such as a board cam. As the light Naze uses only PPM, the receiver must also have it's +/- connected to power the Rx.The Naze dosen't seem to have a problem doing this. It's much lighter this way, you eliminate 6 wires from the ESC's and are only using 3 of the possible 15 for the receiver and don't need an extra component for power (BEC).
This may not be too relevant on a larger quad, but on a 250 sized quad, it's all about shaving off weight as the props are much less efficient.
Although I'm not 100% on range (certainly over that of your FPV gear) the Orange 615x is an excellent spektrum compatible PPM Rx, PPM on the battery channel, and seems to survive having no case and shrink wrapped well, it's also cheap!
I do recommend switching over to PPM, as it makes wiring so much easier, cleaner and lighter.
Can we see a video on how to set the Naze up for PPM to compare?
PPM usage and configuration is covered in the next video and I make the changeover to PPM using the R615x to get all the other Naze32 receiver pins back for later videos (GPS/LEDS etc.). Happy flying!
Ah, maybe I should shut up and learn!!
Another clear set of instructions
Hi Painless. I followed your clear video but still can't seem to power my rx with an external bec. I have a naze acro and 4 x 18a kiss esc so chose the external switching bec option. If I power the bec from my PDB on 3s I get a red light and 5.3v at the output but if I remove the signal pin and plug into a spare port on the naze it does not light up or give me any voltage on those pins on the board. The esc get power fine.
I have tried just red wire, both red and black and also adding the red wire to one of the free signal pins on the kiss esc but same no light on the bec issue.
I thought maybe bad bec as it's similar to your shown and a budget HK one but it powers servos and leds and seems stable under load.
Cheers.
Just a quick note. I have been plugging my UBEC into the receiver and the naze32 would be powered through the PPM cable. I did try your suggestion of plugging the UBEC into the spare mototr inputs on the Naze32 but that didn't seem to work for me (I double checked the polarity) and my esc don't have BEC's so I went back to the way I had it and it works fine.
That will work as the 5v still makes it into the board. I use this method to power KK2.0 boards when Opto ESCs are used.
The board should power up from having the cable plugged into the spare motor outputs though, check that the power lines are connected all the way down the outputs.
Happy flying!
I have same issue with naze acro and kiss esc with walkera rx, rx not getting power. I can try this also?
slinkytreekreeper I tried directly to rx and the board still does not power
Check that there is +5v out of the power cable then and check all the basics. Best of luck.
Works when not 9in the naze, doesn't work when plugged in the naze, still holds current under load. Totally lost, will try an old esc as a bec but something is not right. Plug and play I was told.
Excellent overview @Painless360, very clearly explained! It's a little confusing that HobbyKing would label those ESC's with the term "UBEC" since a UBEC by definition is a switched regulator while a BEC by definition is a linear regulator. But it sounds like those ESC's actually contain linear BEC circuits, regardless of the "UBEC" labeling?
+dronebrulee Actually using BEC and UBEC in that way isn't a standard. All those terms are used interchangeably in the hobby so you always need to read the specs. Happy flying!
Ahhhhh, OK.. good to know, thanks!
Thank...s a very clear set of instructions.
Happy Landings..........
oh,, yet again i find out something i didnt even know i needed to know, do i really need a spare channel or can i add the 5 volt supply to any of the servo plugs from an opto esc?.
Some where I thought I saw where the newer Naze32 FC allows for a direct 3-4s lipo input because this newer version has a built in regulator. I can't find much info about this topic. I'm going to build a 150 Blade quad with tiny Optio ESCs and would like to not add additional hardware(regulator). Can you find info as to how the connection is made and how you can tell if your Naze can have the higher input?
Billy Clark No idea - sorry. I would ask the vendor about this..Best of luck.
do you need the black wire with an opto speedcontroler or can i remove that and connect only the signal eire?
hey i am new to all this stuff. if i Connect 4 esc´s with a power out put off 5v each that will be 20 v right....? but from what i have read the board can only take 16v ? please baer with me ...... awsome and very informative videos
Nope, you are connecting the voltages in parallel. If you are new to this then our 'Introduction to RC' playlist may be useful.. Best of luck!
thanks it maks sense now
just a noob i am getting my 250 size kit that i put together my self i really don't want magic smoke hah
+JulleMor2307 Always a good idea to check but the CC3D series shows every step in building and a lot of it is stull useful when if you are using another flight controller.
okay i will take a look. i am going to use the naze 32 bey the way
I need a wiring diagram for opto ESC (S12A) -> to naze32
Thanks for this! Im buying and opto esc and didnt notice thats a different esc if i didnt watch your video!
If i understand it correctly so i need to put a switching bec to a spare...
-then i that switching bec ill just put it to the power same as the esc?or i need seperate battery for my esc?
- and is it possible to just remove the + wires in the esc?
Was using naza all along so im ised to plug and play v2 rtf..... and now planning to build a mini quad woth naze32...thanks to your videos i have guide how to..
2peng Yep, switching bec to a spare...
Hi There. Thanks for the post, as always very helpful. I've just fried my Naze32 (again) and I don't know why. I bought a power distribution board stackable above/below the Naze as it's the same size and it has a 5v output. I bought 4 OPTO 20amp ESC's plugging into my Naze and powered the Naze on a spare channel on the Naze board from the PDB (5v). It was working fine and suddenly it fried. My question is, is it okay to power the Naze via the PDB into just one channel? I suspect my soldering could have been the culprit but is there any other reason it could have fried? Thanks.
+nikolasvon See our video on Multirotor power systems - should answer this for you - ruclips.net/video/o7L_Woeu38Q/видео.html
That explains it 100%
What should be the optimum amperage of an external UBEC (5v) to power the Naze32?
I see in your illustration you are using a 3A UBEC.
Depends on servo usage. 2A plus should be plenty without servos..
Hi Lee, I'm using OPTO ESC's so am trying to power the board through the 5v out on a distribution board. If I plug in the + and - from the distribution board to the + and - on the spare ESC pins (ESC 6 slot) the receiver will be powered but the Naze will be dead. However, if I remove number 1 ESC and replace it with the 5v from the distribution board, the naze will be powered but the RX will not! Any ideas here?
Further info:
RX is an Orange 615x connected via CPPM.
If board is connected to computer through Micro USB and distribution board connnects to the naze via number 6 ESC pins, everything works perfectly on cleanflight.
Distribution board was purchased from the nats but very similar to www.banggood.com/CC3D-flight-controller-5v-12v-bec-output-power-distribution-board-pcb-p-973352.html
I tested the voltage output from the distribution board at 5.05v.
PS, in the video, you connected the BEC to the TOP and centre pins, whereas my Naze suggests the top pin (closest to middle) is signal. I didnt want to test it under power, is that where I'm going wrong?
Many thanks
+p33333te The other way to do this is connect the BEC to the battery connector on the radio receiver and let the power flow from the Rx to the FC. Best of luck.
Thanks, the fault was found in my soldering - one of the +ve pins on the esc output didnt join properly. Cheap solder and poor skills at fault!!
+p33333te +Painless360 So can you guys tell me if im right here as i think you both know.
Using opto ESC, I can power cc3d BEC/ZMR board and use 5v drop down for either receiver to FC or vise versa?
This is where i have stopped.
Also, do you know whether the CC3D BEC/ZMR is just PDB or also a FC?
This may help - ruclips.net/video/o7L_Woeu38Q/видео.html
I am building a hexacopter and using the HK Afro ESCs that do not come with a BEC. Are you sure that you can't power the flight controller from the RX as you can with the HK KK2 board? I would like to plug a UBEC into the RX.
That will work too. Make sure that the cables can handle the current if you plan to use MinimOSD, GPS etc.
Happy flying!
When using opto ESC's and a seperate BEC, can you solder it onto the +/- on the power distribution board?
+Pete Molkenthin if it supplies 5v yes. See our quick tip on multirotor power systems. .
I got a problem the ESC's I have are non BEC, I am using a naze32 acro and a CC3D pdb. The way I wired it up was I tied all the hot leads on the ESC's and soldered the to the 5v out on the pdb, and tied all the grounds to negative to the ground side of the pdb (not the 5v negative side). Before I power the board up will this work? I don't want to blow up the board or ESC's.
+jdj62464 From what I can understand from the description sounds ok. But I'd not have the FC plugged in and power up the model and check that the 5v is where you expect it.. Triple check the wiring one last time before plugging it in..
Build a tester bud, Just google Lightbulb RC Tester and it should come up. It is a auto light bulb that works as a fuse when plugged in
I have been having issues with NAZE seemingly shutting down....It always happens at full throttle...I cannot figure out whats going on because it has happened on different quads with different ESCs and BEC combos and its still happening...I suppose it could be a TX RX issue...
John Deckenbach Possibly, could be the voltage to the Rx dropping and it loosing connection. This is normally shown by status lights on the Rx after it comes back on. Servos under stress pull more than you think.
I would power the Rx and flight controller from a dedicated switched BEC.
There are no servos on my quads...and I do use the castle creations blue BESC to power the NAZE boards...
That is odd then.. There are less things in common on all your setups then. Maybe it is a dodgy pot on the tx?
Best of luck with it.
how will I be able to differentiate between linear and switched. if the item listing says they have built in bec should I assume they are linear?
also what happens if I only plug the bec from ESC1 with linear ESCs. will that work?
thanks
The are usually linear if the listing doesn't specify type but ask the vendor. That will work fine. Happy flying!
Hello Painless 360.
I'm about to power my Naze 32 rev6 directly from the 5V pins on my PDB. I'm going to solder a Schottky onto the live wire, so the ESCs don't try to draw power from my USB, which I've learned is a common problem with the Naze. Anything else I should know? 3rd time lucky
I've not used Naze32 boards for a few years here. The only other piece of advice is be aware that most of the latest flight control software/Beta/Clean/iNavflight won't run with all the bells and whistles on a Naze32 anymore. It'll be fine for basic stabilization though. Best of luck with the build! :D
Thanks for all your help. It's my 1st build and I won't use tha Naze again. TBS, Kiss and Armattan, on my next 3. I've learned a lot, in a very short space of time.
How could I connect a Hex to a naze with 6 opto escs and power it with a BEC? I tried running the BEC power and ground through a connecter with the signal from the opto and it wont work...I cant believe that just didn't add a power pad that isn't part of the ESC connections...
John Deckenbach This is all part of the 'fun' of the Naze32. This board was designed to be a little FPV/Acro racer.
You will need to connect the UBEC to a GND pad/pin (there are a few on the telemetry/Buzzer connections) and a 5v pad near the Boot pins.
Best of luck..
I don't think fun is how I would describe a board that cant fly Hexes with Opto escs...
That's why I used parenthesis ;)
Just a quick question if I may, im building a mini on 4s setup the motors are rates for 3s but are happy on 4s too after a lot of tests the escs are rated for 4s as per recommendation from the supplier of the mini quad kit he recommends I use a separate ubec to power the naze if I do this I would be removing all the + from the escs and tapping the ubec power from the pdb board which in turn provides naze 32 with 5 v then 5v output through ppm to my rx does that sound OK to yourself many thanks ?
Sounds like the ESCs have a simple linear BEC in them. As the linear circuit dumps the excess voltage as heat then any increase in the cell count has a dramatic affect on how hot the entire ESC gets due to the heat from the BEC.
This sounds like a good idea and does give you the option to go back tot the supplier if you do it and one of the ESC still fails..
Happy flying!
+Painless360 I would think mc drone could use either ...a switching BEC instead or a linear BEC, A switching BEC would be more efficient and would avoid the heat. Interesting way of getting power to the NAZE32. I am thinking of getting the power from an OSDoge since they are stackable. I believe, I need to check, that stacking the OSDoge send power through the RX as well to power the NAZE32. If so I could avoid the OSD you typically use.
Thank you, but what is when you're not sure what you exactly have and you power them all together? Is it then destroyed?
It shouldn't be, hopefully. If everything still works then you've got away with it.
The most common mistake is connecting all of the outputs from the switched BECs together, this is not recommended but if they are all within a close tolerance on the output voltages should survive this.
Hope this helps.
Painless360 best thanks, today my package will arrive and than I have to see what is what.
Perfect timing. Thank you
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First, make sure you know what you have! You should be able to, since you ordered it.
The safe thing would be to remove the 5V wire from all but one connector. It's "safe" in the sense that your BECs can't fight each other, but you will lose the redundancy of multiple BECs. But as long as you don't drive servos the current a single BEC can deliver should be easily enough for the flight controller and receiver.
So i got my package and, ok, it are really not expensive things, there a 4 SK12A ESC's .
i don't know if there is a bec, ubec or something else, but it doesnt matter to the board, the Board ( MW SE V3.0) has a extra socket for power, so i could take the power from only one ESC.
thank you all for this
hi, don't know if anyone can help me out. I'm using the force 200 kingkong set to build my first drone. this comes with opto ESC's and one seperate BEC to power the flight controller. I've struggled to find an answer to this but will I need another seperate UBEC to power my receiver? I originally thought that it got its power through being connected to the flight controller but I stumbled across people using ESC's and all sorts to power the receivers. the kit comes with a mini cc3d. Thanks.
No, watch the 'Quadcopter Building for Beginners' series to see a lot of the basics. The BEC powers the Rx and FC at the same time.. Best of luck!
how would you wire opto esc with a cc3d is there a diagram or video out there ?
+AARON ARRINGTON Welcome to the channel, I see you're not a subscriber. All of the videos on here are in playlists and we have a number on the CC3D and revo boards as well as a series 'Introduction to Remote Control' that covers all of the basics. The most useful one will be here - ruclips.net/video/p1EhSYNa0pM/видео.html
What if you have a Naze32(B) Rev6 (the thin ones that come on the diatone models) how do I power that?
We stopped playing with Naze32 after Rev5, lots of newer faster boards about now. The power should be the same though. Best of luck!
Hi ! Painless electronic master :) thanks for this video and all the others, following you since quite a while, you already gave me great infos in the past.. Great job and thanks again... I was checking in the comments to see if somebody already asked the question but apparently not, so here it is : I have no Bec ( switched ) and i m using for this configuration optos ... Can i use a spare linear esc that i have left, to provide the 5v volts to the board like you showed for a basic bec ? This one says BEC 2 Amps on it ..
Thx Have a good one
You could but I wouldn't. See how we do it in the latest series 'Quadcopter building for beginners' series or the video ruclips.net/video/o7L_Woeu38Q/видео.html may help. I'd use a PDB with an integral BEC or get a dedicated switched BEC to power everything. The spare ESC will not like the output stage for the motor not being connected to anything.. Best of luck!
I understand i ll get a dedicated switched bec, thank you very much for your time. And thanks for all your videos, and the way you re doing them, it can t be more clear :)
your videos are the best!
1 question
can i power the board through vbat?
since it has a regulator built in
thnx!
+John Kodolemos no, newer boards power themselves from the battery connection now though. See the video on the F3mini. Happy flying!
very helpful thank you!!
what's the point about using an external bec? i mean it can be justified with airplanes so that in case of problem with main battery you could anyway be able to land safetly...but with copters will always drop like a stone
While it is true that copters can't float for toffee there are a few reason why having an external BEC can be useful -
Most of the cheaper ESCs used for multirotors have simple or lower current BEC circuits in them. With the newer boards using additional components like radios, receivers, LED strips, sonar devices, OSDs etc. the current needed for all of the flight electronics running on the 5v supply can quickly overtake what the integrated BEC can reliably provide.
The second reason is due to the fact that the BECs (particular the linear ones) produce a lot of heat when running 4s or higher batteries so using an external specialist BEC that can handle the higher voltages from the LIPO pack easily, provides less heat in the ESC itself (a good thing) and it also allows us to use higher quality, more efficient switched BECs to deliver the 5v and 4+ amps needed.
And finally Opto ESCs don't have an integrated BEC at all so you need something to provide the +5v needed to power everything...
Hope this makes sense and goes some way to answering the question.
Happy flying!
that's make a lot of sense...thanks for that and for your usefull tutorials...i only fly with Naza for their semplicity but i will give to naze32 a try in the build of my 250 racer quad. thanks dude!
Very well explained... Although I only use the signal wires from all four ESCs. Three into one connector and plugged in horizontally on the signal pins. I then use a small adjustable BEC from the battery set to 5v in another connector with the remaining signal wire vertically.
I found one ESC was getting warmer than the others using the traditional methods. May have been a coincidence. May have been because as you mentioned in another answer that it draws a lot of power with LEDs, FPV etc.
These are the type BECs I use which are dirt cheap and weigh next to nothing and are great for powering camera as well...
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Fug Bucker hi, it is common to have one of the ESCs doing the most work supplying the board with 5v. Linear BECs will cope with it but switching BECs less so. Happy flying!
i have 20amp escs without bec, the servo lead( connecting the esc to the naze) has only a yellow wire and a brown wire but no middle red wire. can i use the 5 volts from my pdb to power the naze?
thanks !
+shad0w1pegasis yep. Best of luck!