What about stalingrad in one of the buildings there is a large pile of rubble that no one looks at and you can just drive up it and snipe all the way back
@@BavarianViking711 No the D point would spawn in Carpathians. They have since removed this point for ground. It was the only D point in game before naval.
Broken spots? No no no, friend. See here, they are called Tactical Advantage Zones. Every battlefield in history has one. Just look at General Kenobi and his infamous High Ground.
As a reminder, this series resulted in the entire traction mechanic being nerfed for everyone. More recently, Gaijin made whole areas of some maps "out of bounds" zones because of "content creators" posting these kinds of videos...
There is. Just pick the bottom right spawn and drive to the shore of the sea. With the right angle you can see the approach to the bridge from the enemy spawn. I must have gotten one of the fastest WT-kills ever like 15 seconds into the game. On one instance i even shot at an enemy who still had the spawnprotection on, thats how fast you can actually shoot at them. There is no cover for you though. So pick something with a good reverse gear.
There's actually another spot in Finland. If you can go to G8 on that map, there's just a small small hole in which you can hull down with your tank and you can cover pretty much all of C and even see into the enemy's right spawn AND you can even shoot at that one camping spot on top of the hill at their spawn.
To be honest I don't see any problem with these spots. Even if you manage get a kill or two, you will get revenged bombed faster then you can say 'e-sports ready!'
See some spots are fine. So long as they dont give you an advantage over ennemy spawns. Like in ash river for exemple. And that is not ok no matter what excuse you come up with. Because spawnkilling should be intensly cracked down upon. But that'd ruin the mommy kids' fun and we all know gaijin live them mommy's kids. Mostly those with rich mommys and daddys. It is a matter of fact they even took away spawn protections such as self destruct for driving into spawn.
well the problem is that you kill them right at their spawn so they might not even have points for planes, besides some vehicles can defend themself from air especially when you can hide yourself from tanks and focus on planes, besides it can take time to find and bomb you, so even if you will ignore air you can get ton of free kills that require one skill and that is good rangefinding, you won't even need knowledge of weakspots sine 1. a lot of tanks are made out of paper 2. a lot of tanks have penetration enough to penetrate tanks from kms even at lower br (imagine driving there with archer)
I found some of these spot by accident. What i find funny using them is not about getting kills, but after my first pew, getting a whole division of enemies nuking my position instantly, ignoring any other objective on the map. You become the main objective of an entire team xD. Im a drama bitch and i like the attention ok?
I love the opposing statements.... "Its a very common spot, but a lot of players don't know about it". "There is no way to counter this spot" .... (next clip)... "This is how you counter it".😂 Many of these "exploits" are time consuming to get to and leaves the player vulnerable, so there are drawbacks.
I actually ran out of audio clips i could use. So i had to just voice over like 15mins of the video in one shot which lead me to foot in mouth a few times.
Military Heritage those spots are usually hard to get to and it takes too much time to get back to the battlefield if needed to decap a point for exemple if your team is losing because of the points
Most of these spots are not that OP since you will most likely be shot trying to get up them. Most of them doesn't have cover for you from incoming fire. They can still be good against a blind enemy team. A few of them are excellent and actual OP spots.
You can stream roll 10 kills before you get killed by cas most players don’t have enough spawn points and or leave the game after their first death and although they may seem open there is often shallow ridges you can sink into peak fire kill disappear again
The problem at high tier is that anyone reasonably scanning the environment with Thermals would spot you immediately from such positions with little cover. Most of these spots only provide the element of surprise
War Thunder heavily nerfed tank track mechanics in the game compared to real life instead of making out of boundary places.. impassable irl a tank can climb a 60 degree incline. Instead of doing what normal developers do, everybody gets to suffer.
22:24 Thats basically regular encounter position you were going to back when tanks came out. It was pretty normal to encounter 2-3 enemy tanks coming at you from enemy spawn doing same ultra flanking as you
Certainly a fair few spots are broken and very hard to counter, but CAS is a great equalizer, and that is before one brings up how you have to remove yourself from the battle for a few minutes to be able to reach some of those spots. You remove yourself from immediately helping your team in order to camp better later, and it is very easy to get stuck trying to get to some of the better spots. Interesting yes, and some are definitely better than others.
9:22 i utilized that spot once with my Sturer Emil but i purposely didn’t shoot into their spawn. I still have to admit that this spot is ridiculously strong for any kind if long range sniper. More gun depression makes this even stronger because you are covered better.
I really disagree with removing spots like these. Whining about this already gave us slippery tanks that cant climb anything. Not every map needs to be a perfectly symmetrical three-corridor arena. Cheeky spots are a thing in real life and should be in-game too. Most of these are difficult to access and aren't too hard to counter, it adds more variety to gameplay Tank traps are a lazy and unninspired "fix", we need less tank traps, not more.
They should keep some of these spots, map knowledge should be rewarded, granted the spot is not complete abuse with insane capability to conceal yourself and overlook the whole map.
If you have a fast wheeled vehicle you can get onto the same hill in Kuban by spawning at the top right hand spawn, go towards B for a running start, turn around and ram straight up between a gap in the rocks on the hill edge. If you get it first try you'll be able to snipe players before they even get near C or B
This video and the followup led directly to the retarded sliding that we all experience now. Ive literally slid UP a hill i was supposed to slide down on because even this player wide "fix" wasnt implemented correctly(Karelia)... Gaijin opted to impact ALL players via the traction mechanics rather then fixing the maps themselves, which would have been far less intrusive and just...less dumb in general.
Some of these I'm actually fine with. They're cheeky but they're not that bad and that's not to mention how vulnerable you actually are if the enemy knows where you're at. Like they are only effective because it's not where people will expect to see you. You will have the jump on them
The Jungle one in the bottom "H line" part of the map is not "broken", it's one of the most common spots on that map, and as such EVERYONE looks there and a LOT of people try to go there. The amount of times I've died from people dueling for that spot is insane.
Players that play like this ruin the game. All he is concerned about is…. From this spot you can hit their spawns…. Takes no skill what do ever to actually play the game.
God I miss these days when tanks actually has traction (gee its almost like the have tracks or somthing). But gaijin being the lazy and arrogant bastards they are refused to accept thier maps were poorly designed or flawed, so they made everyone else suffer by keeping those spots but covering them in olive oil and our tracks made of foam.
Imagine being in a C1 Ariete in those spots. You can do sooooo much damage with the most destructive APFSDS round in the game. You'd probably get like a 15 kill game, it's insane
Wouldn't call those Berlin, Normandy or Frozen Pass spots "broken". Powerful, but not broken, just smart spots that people SHOULD be using. Same goes for those Jungles positions at 24:00 - 25:00 or the Japan spot at 26:00 - nothing wrong with them at all. They don't require abusing the physics engine, or slipping over tank traps that are designed to stop you, and just missed a spot... Just because they're high up doesn't make them broken. I'd have left them out and included one incredibly broken location on El Alamein! Otherwise, besides those, the rest are utterly broken, so good on you for pointing this shit out lad! A good look at the physics model would fix a lot of these
Gotta say, I do appreciate locations on maps with a high vantage point, I think it makes for great gameplay, especially for hull down,defensive focused vehicles, and it's historical that vehicles would be utilizing terrain to get a height advantage... But they gotta be locations that can be countered, and don't require abusing the physics engine to get into! I think Gaijin needs to fix these locations, and instead incorporate some actual legitimate high vantage points into the maps in game. One of the biggest problems I've had with war Thunder maps these past few years is that they're almost all completely flat, which makes for boring gameplay and fucks over defensive type tanks. World of Tanks does their map design far better in this regard, with the "Malinovka", "Prokhorovka", "Serene Coast", "Westfield", El Halluf" and Himmelsdorf maps all having good terrain elevation without any broken overpowered locations. War Thunder's map design team could learn a lot from them!
Thanks for the comment, what it really ends up boiling down to is what you consider broken. Now personally i feel that any spot where you can cross map an enemy player within 10 seconds of spawning in the match for example frozen pass or the first spot on ash river should maybe not be removed but a map rework to prevent spawn to spawn sniping would be great. I would also argue that some of these maps at the time they were implemented used these very steep slopes as a map boarder that is now no longer effective an example would be jungle in the really high up spots. If i had to do the video over again i would leave out normandy and Berlin on the fence about frozen pass. Also part two is on the way El Alamein is in there.
Or maybe the better answer to jungle is it was difficult to do with low br tanks and it held no strategic value but now with hefs and apdsfs and thermals the effectiveness of a spot like this has grown a lot.
27:27 In Kuban, there is an elevated "Island" on K9 and you're able to get on it when driving a skinny tank (BT-5, BT-7). You need to go to the north-east area of the island and climb up the rocks. It might look steep, but in a BT, it's surprisingly grippy. This will only work if you're driving from the C to B direction. There's a gap in between the rocks which can fit a small tank. It gives you complete overwatch of C, their K3 spawn, and people headed to B. When you see it, it's going to be an easy way to rack up kills.
I know a lot of these spots (and some more which are not mentioned here), but I don't see any problem with them. First, most of them you cannot reach without being seen by the enemy. Second: if the enemy can see you, you can see the enemy as well (or if not, you will have enough points meanwhile to get back in a plane to remove this player). The biggest advantage of these spots are: no one expects you there. Until you get shot. I've been playing War Thunder for almost five years now and I can count it on one hand how often I saw player in those places. There were worse spots, Cologne or Port Novo for example, where you could get outside the map. They have been fixed, and this is good. But these spots here are ok. If someone in the enemy team tries to reach them means, he do not participate the gameplay for, let's say, up to five minutes. In this time your team will have captured several points- and you cannot recap them in your hiding hole. I would leave them as they are.
no one should get in trouble for using these spots, only the devs should get little to no punishment since players are only going to make the most of what they got even if that means exploiting parts of poor map design
You missed one. In the conquest and battle versions of port novorisky you can climb up one of the dirt piles and exit the city, and climb up onto the hill and overlook the whole city and spawn. There are even invisible barriers up there near one of the houses that you can’t drive through or shoot through
The first Ash River spot, a freaking Breda 501 got my Cromwell on B point AND shot through my spawn to kill me AGAIN in my British AA. I had a bad feeling in my SPAA and that feeling was right.
I took a PT76 on an ocean mission on jungle. Came across two M18's in a squad sneaking to B. Ended up getting a double kill on them from the water. APFSDS went through both of them.
Sometimes firing the gun backwards can help you get into spots you might not normally be able to... often very useful for getting over some of those "icy" rocks. Can also help get to a higher cruising speed in some tanks and then with that extra speed ramp your way into more odd and unexpected areas. Gotten into some pretty OP spots with my M18... back when I still played.
(You’re gonna need a friend) On Ash River, if you spawn on the left side, you can have you or your friend take an asu-57 and move over to the tank traps where the bridge starts, at the very last tank trap you put the asu in between the rock and you continuously hit the asu until it turns sideways and is able to drive out into the bridge.
Speaking of “Broken Spots”, did you know that the soviets ALWAYS spawn on the east side of the normandy beach map? (They also get static spawns on other maps too) They get a closer airfield, they get 4 carriers, AND the best sniper spot on the map 😒 Russian Bias. Seriously.
Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like the main nations will always spawn on the same sides of the map. This also means that certain nations are always on the same team (or the inverse of that, so certain nations spawn on the same team as big nations, and so get on certain side of the map). The latter statement is kind of okay (though it would be nice for teams to be a bit more random, to create more interesting match ups), but the fact that certain nations are just forced to be on one side or the other is ridiculous. As someone who plays almost exclusively Germany (don't play the game a lot, and they're what I have the most in), it's asinine that I will never spend much time in half the map, as well as always having the same map biases. Additionally, because I don't play multiple nations, I'll never know specifically what those biases are. This is yet another part of War Thunder that needs a major overhaul, but no change will ever come, because Gaijin isn't here to make a good game, they're here to make money.
They have removed some of the obvious bias map tweaks towards the Russians but some still exist. One map had the Germans always driving into the sun no matter what, and I think another had dust blowing towards them.
Fiasco3 Dude, I remember something similar on another map... I forgot which one it was, but the sun was setting in the northwest, which was hilarious xD
My issue with the title 'broken spots' is it implies that these spots are very hidden and difficult to counter... But theyre not. Some of these spots have been in play since 2014 and were discovered in CBT with a panzer iii... Theyre not broken. So many of these spots are extremely risky to get into or take a very long time to get into, and pre-MBT levels (8.0 and lower) not very many of the commonly used vehicles can reach those spots. A lot of these also arent hidden, theres no bushes of foliage up there and you stick out like a sore thumb, as soon as you fire one shot half the team knows exactly where you're at. A good view with some cover isnt broken, especially when you consider this game was built around very sluggish and clunky mechanics to emulate realism back in the day. It wasnt until the M18 many of these spots were revealed or used en masse because so few vehicles could actually reach them/reach them without being spotted. Of course, when you are playing a 1200 horsepower multi-billion dollar MBT with excellent torque and weight dispersion and traction values on a map with terrain meshes designed for what was essentially a completely different game in 2014-2015 when everyone had T-34-76 and Pz. III/IV with faux values to emulate realism and long range shooting has been dumbed down to the point a complete braindead idiot can grasp APFSDS sniping within 100 battles... They might seem broken. But so many of these spot have been in use in low to mid tier since USA tree was a pipe dream, and so many players know about them, they just dont use them. And when they do, its high risk high reward. You might get nailed before you're halfway there, or you might get there and get 11 kills and save the game. If its not Sands of Sinai Sniper's Rock levels of broken, i dont want to see someone calling it broken. THAT spot had no counter and no way to know if someone was there until a 130mm APHE from the Su-100Y who was practically immortal in that hole tore off your face.
Remember when you have angle on a lot areas those areas also have angle on you meaning you have to watch out since you can be shot from a lot of places
Broken? What? These are tactical battle positions and are sought out by any military commander. On the battlefield you make use of every advantage you can. But remember ingame you are at war with War Thunders economy not the other player.
These spots SHOULD NOT BE REMOVED. Those who take the time and effort to find these spots on their own should be able to use them. Considering how easy it is to get to some spots if you just think outside the box (I have found all these spots and dozens more on my own) they are balanced in regards to access. Most are accessible even to heavy tanks if you know how the in game suspension, traction and gravity physics work and/or bring a friend to help. In regards to the argument that they cover too much of the map, think of helicopters and aircraft, not only can they see and shoot you at a more common position they can see and shoot you in the most exotic and unthinkable places like the ones mentioned in the video. I think Gaijin adds them as a sort of Easter egg and are one of the most fun parts of the game. They really shouldn't be shared on a large scale or "Reported because they are unbalanced" anyone who does so is looking for attention/subs/likes/views ect. Note: I do realize i spent Waaaay to much time on this argument.
Yea, me too. If you know where the tanktrapps star on the other side of the hill, you have to go a little bit to the right with some speed and land basicly right behind the tanktrapps. Real fun with light tanks.
Some of the positions and access points are very tank size sensitive. I often play the M22, small, fast, quick, and a very high hp/t ratio--among the highest of all tiers. DID NOT say it's the highest, but I've yet to find an equal at or near its BR. At least three of my places/points you couldn't access because of your size and the reverse is true for one is or very difficult for me because my small size often gets me trapped amongst boulders you can straddle. Also can't consistently find the the sweet spot and execute the appropriate maneuver. A recent patch precludes your size in one, but two alternate points still allow me passage. To access sniping points in the same area, size and hp/t are THE critical differences where similar sized vehicles can't transit. You've explained how folks got to three place which I couldn't deduce. However, a fair number of your perches IMO leave you significantly exposed and vulnerable to counter sniping which is all I basically do. I scrutinize for spots that allow me to sit an entire game because counter sniping is extremely difficult. I mostly get killed by aircraft or remaining excessively exposed after a string of... maybe ten shots without ducking back into cover. It becomes much more challenging to remain alive in an M22 when playing at 5.6 BR because the folks there are generally much better shooters at all ranges--must peek very carefully and BRIEFLY. Yes, I sometimes shoot a string of 10 shots because I get lost in the moment to kill a target 'now.' I regularly use four access points to perches at which I've never seen anyone else or of which I've heard people talk. They're stunningly advantageous enough that other very experienced players sometimes get so frustrated and angry at their lack of an effective battlefield counter to the point that all that's left to them is to say how I'm not a good, player, I'm cheating, etc. Your vid of others, even in squads operating outside boundaries show I'm far from alone in my efforts. Gaijin's aware of what's going on and could stop them if it wanted. Till then, happy hunting and I've yet to see anyone's whining and insults change their battlefield results. Immediately before this sentence, discovered I can access both sides of a rail bridge--surprised, unhappy, and dead enemy en masse.
@@unepintade, for one thing thermals worked in exposing... The idiots who think they're safe rushing an abuse sniper nest spot only to get yeeted out of game by thermal sights
Most of these are not broken. It takes a while to even get to them and once you do, you are extremely exposed. You would have to bank on an enemy team that is virtually blind for those to work.
Good thing about jungle sniper hills on the right is, that both teams got access to it which makes the spot easy to counter, I would say that it is unofficial but one of the most important battlefields in the jungle map. I personaly tend to go to these spots only to catch people camping there off guard and flank caps/more conventional camping spots, simple extension of the crappy jungle map to the right (that is pretty small, lets be honest) would partly solve the problem instead of removing it. As for the spots in the video, I can imagine how dangerous this might be at lower brs where there are no thermals (lot of the spots seem to be very easy to notice with thermals) and speedy boi vehicles.
I can confirm that gaijin just patched the sideclimbing glitchy terrain. So many of these spots may not be accesable anymore. I knew that they would patch this sooner or later after your video
Can confirm, I tried some of these, especially the side climbing on Kuban, and it isn't working like in the video. Some side climbing works, others don't. The only way I was able to get up that hill in Kuban was with the ASU57, where I found a gap in the tank traps *just* wide enough for that tank and a hill not too steep to climb.
Some of them sure are op, if your playing against bots or something, many players know about this spots but don't even bother because you will get claped trying to get (especialy in toptier with tier with thermals) there or when you expose yourself to shoot someone, because most of them dont have cover or too steep to be in a hulldown position, not even mentioning revenge kill. So i see this as a risky gamble which can get you diretly to hangar or a very good game
Ah yes, realism of War Thunder where Germany and USSR fight together against US-UK in 1942 Stalingrad in their 90' vehicles without any infantry support. You know, some people want a balanced fun game :)
"War Thunder is realistic " now that a good joke , inaccurate armor value , stat , modifications and pen for atleast 2/3 of the tank in game . So atleast use your brain next time gaijin shill
Didn't expect to know so many spots already! I usually got sniped from someone in a dumb position and copied it. Also, the su100p is amazing at 'sideclimbing', it has a weird combination of grip, power to weight and a low gravitational point. On Carpathians I found out it could climb hills with the red flashing text asking you to request help of allies (the tow button). plus where you are standing at 13:05 can be achieved without a run up from the d8 spawn with the su 100p (m18 can do it with a lot of speed going into it).
What is „map abuse“? There is no such term in the War Thunder rules. Rule 2.11 says that „Usage of errors and bugs in the game mechanics“ is not allowed. But: what does that mean? I can climb a steep hill in a Puma but not in a Marder. I guess that is intended, as it is realistic. So how then should a player know that climbing another hill he can climb is not allowed? In my opinion it is NOT up to the players to decide what is an error or bug. Gaijin has to design the maps properly and redesign them if they are unfair.
Ash river in 2022 is still a huge mess with multiple buggy and unfair spots, you are still able to get up the large bridge multiple ways in around 2 - 3 minutes after spawning
Another filthy spot on jungle for all my low profile homies is near D4 on the island. There are a couple big rock formations that block the view from the east and there is a smaller rock that with some momentum you can ramp up onto the rock formation. You can maneuver up there behind the rocks and see about 80% of the eastern part of the map. (Works much better with smaller tanks)
Karelia has a lot of foliage and a very trolly landscape, anything that is difficult to see from over 800m is branded as 'broken' on that map and has been since CBT. Its such a competitive map and thats why people hate it, its not a tried and true basic ass formula like Counter Strike's Dust II that punishes creativity and rewards meta, so its bad. I love the old maps because so much of the creative freedom is still there, and all it takes is one well placed shot from a half decent player to end your reign of terror.
@@LoneWolf-kw3ol I remember playing on this map like, 5 years ago, and Kursk, and all the old maps, and I loved it, now there are so many maps that I'm not so comfortable playing anymore... =(
@@jerecosta8599 honestly the only revamped map i liked was kursk, and i *barely* liked it more than the old version. Italy revamp literally had no changes that didnt benefit a HEATFS spammer, and kursk revamp only served to break the constant snipefest, but now you have M18s and pumas who can almost safely rush B with only a few narrow windows to shoot them from, and they didnt even fix the core issue with B point which was that half the wooden huts can be shot through but the other half couldnt. They really should add volokolamsk back in, that map was a lot of fun. Simple, straightforward and rewarded skill instead of luck. I used to average 8 kills a game on volo regardless of my lineup because i knew exactly how to play it. Port novo is the same way, play it correctly and you will be rewarded, play it badly and you will be punished, which is why everyone hates it.
I have to disagree with the "unfair advantage" assertion. As in real world experience, war is NOT fair (nor is life for that matter). You find any advantage you can and if someone has the skill to avoid getting tagged while exploring these areas, good on them.
@@voxpopulus War Thunder is anything but realistic lmfao. Also fairness > realism on every other video game any day. Youre just excusing shitty gameplay.
if two teams have OP spots than it could be considered balanced to be completely fair. not too mention helicopters and planes are your worst enemy because you tend to have no place to take cover in. The thing is, if we start completely blocking off certain portions of the map, it will sooner or later boil down to a lane-map with just 3 to 5 lanes per map with no freedom of movement between them except for intended "connectors". One of the best features of this game is the amount of openness you feel while driving around. Completely different from how World of tanks used to do it. Also, knowing good locations on every map isn't an easy thing to learn and you should be rewarded for the effort of finding, and getting into, these spots.
i love places you can get to by abusing map design, I did it all the time in CODWAW by map glitching. I even found my own map glitches. Bottom line is that this sort of activity isn't OP because you can still be destroyed no matter what. Being hull down outside of the map does not increase your survivability at least in terms of combat any more than inside the map. If people should be punished for stealthy gameplay then may as well make every single map in the game a flat arena so nobody gets an advantage.
Banning such a spots or 'Goatclimbing' is one of the reasons why I left WOT; making game just closed area with learned ways to win, like an stupid 'arena-like' game...
Ash River 0:45
Berlin 6:53
Karelia 7:18
Carpathians 11:19
Fields of Normandy 19:19
Finland 19:47
Frozen Pass 20:37
Jungle 21:42
Japan 25:07
Kuban 27:27
Thanks.
What about stalingrad in one of the buildings there is a large pile of rubble that no one looks at and you can just drive up it and snipe all the way back
kuban has been patched
I did it literally like to days ago
@@Zakkattack54 i think is just for the Tiger or heavy tanks low BR then, sorry
Ah, so these are the mythical "D Points" that everyone tells me to attack!
The D point origenat in a gamemode for naval battles.
@@BavarianViking711 No the D point would spawn in Carpathians. They have since removed this point for ground. It was the only D point in game before naval.
no, people who say "ATTACK THE D POINT" in a "if you know what i mean", and after that they say "Getting down" "if you know what i mean" as well.
Hehehe you should not be openly talking about that
@@alexcanplaygames5270 I remember the D point back on Carpathians. It was the cargo that we needed to capture, right?
Broken spots? No no no, friend. See here, they are called Tactical Advantage Zones. Every battlefield in history has one. Just look at General Kenobi and his infamous High Ground.
its over anakin, i have the high ground
Dont try it
These spots are outrageous, unfair!
@@railfan8444 3 words mate...GIT GUD KID
I swear If I read another high ground joke
side climbing is slowly going from air ab to ground rb :D
I never even thought about ab these spots would be even easier to get into.
Noone normal sideclimbs in AB.
Or just climbs high in general.
Zakkattack54 haha cromwells on Kuban are cancer for new players
More like air RB
I mean ground RB is basically air RB at this point
Carpathians looks better outside of the map borders than the actual battlefield lol
Hahaha yeah it does look nice
As a reminder, this series resulted in the entire traction mechanic being nerfed for everyone. More recently, Gaijin made whole areas of some maps "out of bounds" zones because of "content creators" posting these kinds of videos...
But why do they care? Everyone is fighting on a map so? Why are they forcing players into smaller and smaller area constantly
@@Boz1211111 Its much easier to tag stuff out of bounds than fix the maps.
War thunder community: War thunder is starting to get really broken, Gaijin please fix the game
Gaijin: KoReAn TeChTrEe
Copy paste american tanks, Hey You historian buff guys check out this new shiny thing weve got
Are they doing now a korean tree?
@@El_Presidente_5337 I hope not
NoOneAlive I just hate Sweden. Very annoying to against
@@chebb3699 the plane on the early tier?
isnt there also that one spot in Tunisia where you can just drive to the right and see right into the enemy's spawn and their approach to C
I keep this in mind thank parrot
This made me think of sinai(the infinite stalemate one)
Another spot on Tunisia is on a rock that overlooks all of B and into the right spawn.
Isn't it on the uh...near the small compound and behind a rock?
There is.
Just pick the bottom right spawn and drive to the shore of the sea. With the right angle you can see the approach to the bridge from the enemy spawn.
I must have gotten one of the fastest WT-kills ever like 15 seconds into the game. On one instance i even shot at an enemy who still had the spawnprotection on, thats how fast you can actually shoot at them. There is no cover for you though. So pick something with a good reverse gear.
There's actually another spot in Finland. If you can go to G8 on that map, there's just a small small hole in which you can hull down with your tank and you can cover pretty much all of C and even see into the enemy's right spawn AND you can even shoot at that one camping spot on top of the hill at their spawn.
Alright bro i check it out thanks for the comment
I’ll
Even on h/i 6 there Is the counter for the spot he show
The top of the hill camp spot on the north side has been nerfed; there's a rock grouping blocking the way up the hill.
I spend 2 years invented these places...then i showed them everybody. Gaijin must know my adventures...
Hahahaha
Fun fact: those concrete columns on ash river are called dragon teeth!
Really that’s a cool fact thanks for sharing
To be honest I don't see any problem with these spots. Even if you manage get a kill or two, you will get revenged bombed faster then you can say 'e-sports ready!'
With these spots people die before earning enough points for planes. Maybe an early-game helicopter but no planes
1. I agree with Max’s reply
2. If you use these spots you deserve to be revenge bombed
See some spots are fine. So long as they dont give you an advantage over ennemy spawns. Like in ash river for exemple. And that is not ok no matter what excuse you come up with. Because spawnkilling should be intensly cracked down upon. But that'd ruin the mommy kids' fun and we all know gaijin live them mommy's kids. Mostly those with rich mommys and daddys. It is a matter of fact they even took away spawn protections such as self destruct for driving into spawn.
well the problem is that you kill them right at their spawn so they might not even have points for planes, besides some vehicles can defend themself from air especially when you can hide yourself from tanks and focus on planes, besides it can take time to find and bomb you, so even if you will ignore air you can get ton of free kills that require one skill and that is good rangefinding, you won't even need knowledge of weakspots sine 1. a lot of tanks are made out of paper 2. a lot of tanks have penetration enough to penetrate tanks from kms even at lower br (imagine driving there with archer)
I found some of these spot by accident. What i find funny using them is not about getting kills, but after my first pew, getting a whole division of enemies nuking my position instantly, ignoring any other objective on the map. You become the main objective of an entire team xD. Im a drama bitch and i like the attention ok?
I blame you entirely for single-handedly causing the traction nerf to tanks.
Yes and no. Why does gaijin care about this? Why are they forcing everyone to close quarters battle?
I love the opposing statements.... "Its a very common spot, but a lot of players don't know about it". "There is no way to counter this spot" .... (next clip)... "This is how you counter it".😂
Many of these "exploits" are time consuming to get to and leaves the player vulnerable, so there are drawbacks.
I actually ran out of audio clips i could use. So i had to just voice over like 15mins of the video in one shot which lead me to foot in mouth a few times.
@@Zakkattack54 very entertaining videos, thank you.
Yes, and they also basically prevent you from playing the objectives if your team is losing.
@@cedjoe6 how so, for clarity?
Military Heritage those spots are usually hard to get to and it takes too much time to get back to the battlefield if needed to decap a point for exemple if your team is losing because of the points
This is what happens when you put powerful tanks on maps designed for low tier
ASU can do a lot of these too...
KajMak64Bit asu57 can climb insane hills it’s so broken, that low weight, high friction and very low center of gravity turns it into a spider tank
Basically my point is gaijin needs to design tier specific maps
There should be maps made for 9.0 and up everything below 9.0 works pretty well on the regular maps
Most of these spots are not that OP since you will most likely be shot trying to get up them. Most of them doesn't have cover for you from incoming fire. They can still be good against a blind enemy team. A few of them are excellent and actual OP spots.
Thats my opinion too.
He forgot its called revenge thunder. Players you kill will do everything to hunt you down, either in a tank or plane
@@dharmdevil well of course. Most of those spots are open enough to get you killed from the enemy spawn. That's not taking into account helis
@Ο αστρικός try to have something constructive to say rather than attacking someone else's profile picture.
You can stream roll 10 kills before you get killed by cas most players don’t have enough spawn points and or leave the game after their first death and although they may seem open there is often shallow ridges you can sink into peak fire kill disappear again
Instead of nerfing these locations, they just made it so that you can’t even climb sideways
this video: *exists*
Gaijin: "so you have chosen, UNIVERSAL TRACTION NERF ON EVERY VEHICLE BUT THE ONES THAT NEEDED THIS SHIT"
I'm smiling because a few broken spots I enjoy using didn't appear in the video nor did the maps
*EVERYBODY GANGSTA TILL GAIJIN RELEASES THE D POINT*
The problem at high tier is that anyone reasonably scanning the environment with Thermals would spot you immediately from such positions with little cover. Most of these spots only provide the element of surprise
Is this why Gaijin covered all hills with olive oil?
War Thunder heavily nerfed tank track mechanics in the game compared to real life instead of making out of boundary places.. impassable
irl a tank can climb a 60 degree incline. Instead of doing what normal developers do, everybody gets to suffer.
22:24 Thats basically regular encounter position you were going to back when tanks came out. It was pretty normal to encounter 2-3 enemy tanks coming at you from enemy spawn doing same ultra flanking as you
Because most people know that spot and it is faily easy exesible from both sides I would say it is balanced again.
Certainly a fair few spots are broken and very hard to counter, but CAS is a great equalizer, and that is before one brings up how you have to remove yourself from the battle for a few minutes to be able to reach some of those spots. You remove yourself from immediately helping your team in order to camp better later, and it is very easy to get stuck trying to get to some of the better spots. Interesting yes, and some are definitely better than others.
9:22 i utilized that spot once with my Sturer Emil but i purposely didn’t shoot into their spawn. I still have to admit that this spot is ridiculously strong for any kind if long range sniper. More gun depression makes this even stronger because you are covered better.
I play USSR so I can’t look anywhere in the general ‘down’ direction it’s awful.
I really disagree with removing spots like these. Whining about this already gave us slippery tanks that cant climb anything. Not every map needs to be a perfectly symmetrical three-corridor arena. Cheeky spots are a thing in real life and should be in-game too. Most of these are difficult to access and aren't too hard to counter, it adds more variety to gameplay
Tank traps are a lazy and unninspired "fix", we need less tank traps, not more.
I'd agree, for anything that doesnt give you view into opposing spawns. Either remove the spot or block the view into spawn.
They should keep some of these spots, map knowledge should be rewarded, granted the spot is not complete abuse with insane capability to conceal yourself and overlook the whole map.
Nah map knowledge doesnt mean abuse the hell out of obvious exploits
I think i found the inspiration for the butter tracks update
If you have a fast wheeled vehicle you can get onto the same hill in Kuban by spawning at the top right hand spawn, go towards B for a running start, turn around and ram straight up between a gap in the rocks on the hill edge. If you get it first try you'll be able to snipe players before they even get near C or B
Guy. Seriously. these spots are really fun, why do people have to take away the fun shit of the game.
if the player knows how to get there with their own knowledge I fail to see how this is an issue, it just puts more focus on actually knowing the map
This video and the followup led directly to the retarded sliding that we all experience now. Ive literally slid UP a hill i was supposed to slide down on because even this player wide "fix" wasnt implemented correctly(Karelia)... Gaijin opted to impact ALL players via the traction mechanics rather then fixing the maps themselves, which would have been far less intrusive and just...less dumb in general.
I'd quit WT if I were you.
@@kurtpena5462 Aye, its pretty egregious. Plenty of people quitting now though, with the whole econ blow up.
Some of these I'm actually fine with. They're cheeky but they're not that bad and that's not to mention how vulnerable you actually are if the enemy knows where you're at. Like they are only effective because it's not where people will expect to see you. You will have the jump on them
The Jungle one in the bottom "H line" part of the map is not "broken", it's one of the most common spots on that map, and as such EVERYONE looks there and a LOT of people try to go there. The amount of times I've died from people dueling for that spot is insane.
Honestly its really fun trying to find ways to enter maps where you're not supposed to.
Awesome video! Interesting and original. Just hopes Gaijin doesnt remove these spots
Slope: *exists*
Zakk: sideclimb
I think this shows again what War Thunder needs the most at the moment. A huge map overhaul and a ton of NEW maps.
Placements of proper tank traps would fix 90% of these
@@Zakkattack54Probably. But I would prefer some unexpected mine fields instead xD
Crazy i like it
Gewürzkönich dude imagine if APC’s could place down AT mines(slightly visible) but only placeable on roads
Teaeth Baggeth mine the bridges
Pretty good video man! I personally dont play ground all that much, but im gonna be sure to share this video, so that others can get this information.
Thanks fam i appreciate it
Please do, expose these cheating camper positions so Gaijan might fix them.
Players that play like this ruin the game. All he is concerned about is…. From this spot you can hit their spawns…. Takes no skill what do ever to actually play the game.
well thanks....didnt know about some of these spots.....but now everybody that watched this vid will now know.....
God I miss these days when tanks actually has traction (gee its almost like the have tracks or somthing). But gaijin being the lazy and arrogant bastards they are refused to accept thier maps were poorly designed or flawed, so they made everyone else suffer by keeping those spots but covering them in olive oil and our tracks made of foam.
Yea...
Imagine being in a C1 Ariete in those spots. You can do sooooo much damage with the most destructive APFSDS round in the game. You'd probably get like a 15 kill game, it's insane
Wouldn't call those Berlin, Normandy or Frozen Pass spots "broken". Powerful, but not broken, just smart spots that people SHOULD be using. Same goes for those Jungles positions at 24:00 - 25:00 or the Japan spot at 26:00 - nothing wrong with them at all. They don't require abusing the physics engine, or slipping over tank traps that are designed to stop you, and just missed a spot... Just because they're high up doesn't make them broken. I'd have left them out and included one incredibly broken location on El Alamein!
Otherwise, besides those, the rest are utterly broken, so good on you for pointing this shit out lad! A good look at the physics model would fix a lot of these
Gotta say, I do appreciate locations on maps with a high vantage point, I think it makes for great gameplay, especially for hull down,defensive focused vehicles, and it's historical that vehicles would be utilizing terrain to get a height advantage... But they gotta be locations that can be countered, and don't require abusing the physics engine to get into!
I think Gaijin needs to fix these locations, and instead incorporate some actual legitimate high vantage points into the maps in game. One of the biggest problems I've had with war Thunder maps these past few years is that they're almost all completely flat, which makes for boring gameplay and fucks over defensive type tanks.
World of Tanks does their map design far better in this regard, with the "Malinovka", "Prokhorovka", "Serene Coast", "Westfield", El Halluf" and Himmelsdorf maps all having good terrain elevation without any broken overpowered locations. War Thunder's map design team could learn a lot from them!
Thanks for the comment, what it really ends up boiling down to is what you consider broken. Now personally i feel that any spot where you can cross map an enemy player within 10 seconds of spawning in the match for example frozen pass or the first spot on ash river should maybe not be removed but a map rework to prevent spawn to spawn sniping would be great. I would also argue that some of these maps at the time they were implemented used these very steep slopes as a map boarder that is now no longer effective an example would be jungle in the really high up spots. If i had to do the video over again i would leave out normandy and Berlin on the fence about frozen pass. Also part two is on the way El Alamein is in there.
Or maybe the better answer to jungle is it was difficult to do with low br tanks and it held no strategic value but now with hefs and apdsfs and thermals the effectiveness of a spot like this has grown a lot.
27:27 In Kuban, there is an elevated "Island" on K9 and you're able to get on it when driving a skinny tank (BT-5, BT-7). You need to go to the north-east area of the island and climb up the rocks. It might look steep, but in a BT, it's surprisingly grippy. This will only work if you're driving from the C to B direction. There's a gap in between the rocks which can fit a small tank. It gives you complete overwatch of C, their K3 spawn, and people headed to B. When you see it, it's going to be an easy way to rack up kills.
I know a lot of these spots (and some more which are not mentioned here), but I don't see any problem with them. First, most of them you cannot reach without being seen by the enemy. Second: if the enemy can see you, you can see the enemy as well (or if not, you will have enough points meanwhile to get back in a plane to remove this player). The biggest advantage of these spots are: no one expects you there. Until you get shot.
I've been playing War Thunder for almost five years now and I can count it on one hand how often I saw player in those places. There were worse spots, Cologne or Port Novo for example, where you could get outside the map. They have been fixed, and this is good. But these spots here are ok. If someone in the enemy team tries to reach them means, he do not participate the gameplay for, let's say, up to five minutes. In this time your team will have captured several points- and you cannot recap them in your hiding hole.
I would leave them as they are.
no one should get in trouble for using these spots, only the devs should get little to no punishment since players are only going to make the most of what they got even if that means exploiting parts of poor map design
You missed one. In the conquest and battle versions of port novorisky you can climb up one of the dirt piles and exit the city, and climb up onto the hill and overlook the whole city and spawn. There are even invisible barriers up there near one of the houses that you can’t drive through or shoot through
The first Ash River spot, a freaking Breda 501 got my Cromwell on B point AND shot through my spawn to kill me AGAIN in my British AA. I had a bad feeling in my SPAA and that feeling was right.
In jungle if you have an amphybious vehicle like the BMP1 you can go to the tiny island crossing the ocean , im the only guy who does that
ive done it twice and from my experience its not too lucrative with the bmp-1
youre real vulnerable in the water and lack of gun depression makes shooting a bit hard and also planes can easily ruin your day
You are blyatiful
I took a PT76 on an ocean mission on jungle. Came across two M18's in a squad sneaking to B. Ended up getting a double kill on them from the water. APFSDS went through both of them.
Sometimes firing the gun backwards can help you get into spots you might not normally be able to... often very useful for getting over some of those "icy" rocks. Can also help get to a higher cruising speed in some tanks and then with that extra speed ramp your way into more odd and unexpected areas. Gotten into some pretty OP spots with my M18... back when I still played.
imagine getting banned for playing a map
(You’re gonna need a friend) On Ash River, if you spawn on the left side, you can have you or your friend take an asu-57 and move over to the tank traps where the bridge starts, at the very last tank trap you put the asu in between the rock and you continuously hit the asu until it turns sideways and is able to drive out into the bridge.
Spider tonks were fixed recently:(
Instructions unclear accidentally made War Thunder 2.0
Speaking of “Broken Spots”, did you know that the soviets ALWAYS spawn on the east side of the normandy beach map?
(They also get static spawns on other maps too)
They get a closer airfield, they get 4 carriers, AND the best sniper spot on the map 😒
Russian Bias. Seriously.
Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like the main nations will always spawn on the same sides of the map. This also means that certain nations are always on the same team (or the inverse of that, so certain nations spawn on the same team as big nations, and so get on certain side of the map). The latter statement is kind of okay (though it would be nice for teams to be a bit more random, to create more interesting match ups), but the fact that certain nations are just forced to be on one side or the other is ridiculous. As someone who plays almost exclusively Germany (don't play the game a lot, and they're what I have the most in), it's asinine that I will never spend much time in half the map, as well as always having the same map biases. Additionally, because I don't play multiple nations, I'll never know specifically what those biases are. This is yet another part of War Thunder that needs a major overhaul, but no change will ever come, because Gaijin isn't here to make a good game, they're here to make money.
@@erictheepic5019 On Tank RB that is true, as maps have some historical bias when setting up teams. On Tank AB it doesn't care too much.
I think the Russians get the easy side on Carpathians as well.
They have removed some of the obvious bias map tweaks towards the Russians but some still exist. One map had the Germans always driving into the sun no matter what, and I think another had dust blowing towards them.
Fiasco3 Dude, I remember something similar on another map... I forgot which one it was, but the sun was setting in the northwest, which was hilarious xD
My issue with the title 'broken spots' is it implies that these spots are very hidden and difficult to counter...
But theyre not. Some of these spots have been in play since 2014 and were discovered in CBT with a panzer iii... Theyre not broken. So many of these spots are extremely risky to get into or take a very long time to get into, and pre-MBT levels (8.0 and lower) not very many of the commonly used vehicles can reach those spots. A lot of these also arent hidden, theres no bushes of foliage up there and you stick out like a sore thumb, as soon as you fire one shot half the team knows exactly where you're at. A good view with some cover isnt broken, especially when you consider this game was built around very sluggish and clunky mechanics to emulate realism back in the day. It wasnt until the M18 many of these spots were revealed or used en masse because so few vehicles could actually reach them/reach them without being spotted.
Of course, when you are playing a 1200 horsepower multi-billion dollar MBT with excellent torque and weight dispersion and traction values on a map with terrain meshes designed for what was essentially a completely different game in 2014-2015 when everyone had T-34-76 and Pz. III/IV with faux values to emulate realism and long range shooting has been dumbed down to the point a complete braindead idiot can grasp APFSDS sniping within 100 battles...
They might seem broken. But so many of these spot have been in use in low to mid tier since USA tree was a pipe dream, and so many players know about them, they just dont use them. And when they do, its high risk high reward. You might get nailed before you're halfway there, or you might get there and get 11 kills and save the game.
If its not Sands of Sinai Sniper's Rock levels of broken, i dont want to see someone calling it broken. THAT spot had no counter and no way to know if someone was there until a 130mm APHE from the Su-100Y who was practically immortal in that hole tore off your face.
Alternate title: How to turn your tank into an OP helicopter
And they fixed these by covering tank tracks in olive oil.
Please make a map guide with spots that are good but aren't broken. It'd be a great help
I’ll look into it
Remember when you have angle on a lot areas those areas also have angle on you meaning you have to watch out since you can be shot from a lot of places
Broken? What? These are tactical battle positions and are sought out by any military commander. On the battlefield you make use of every advantage you can. But remember ingame you are at war with War Thunders economy not the other player.
Yes broken. It's abusing the game.
@@pampidoo just a matter of how you look at it.
These spots SHOULD NOT BE REMOVED. Those who take the time and effort to find these spots on their own should be able to use them. Considering how easy it is to get to some spots if you just think outside the box (I have found all these spots and dozens more on my own) they are balanced in regards to access. Most are accessible even to heavy tanks if you know how the in game suspension, traction and gravity physics work and/or bring a friend to help. In regards to the argument that they cover too much of the map, think of helicopters and aircraft, not only can they see and shoot you at a more common position they can see and shoot you in the most exotic and unthinkable places like the ones mentioned in the video. I think Gaijin adds them as a sort of Easter egg and are one of the most fun parts of the game. They really shouldn't be shared on a large scale or "Reported because they are unbalanced" anyone who does so is looking for attention/subs/likes/views ect.
Note: I do realize i spent Waaaay to much time on this argument.
23:08 there is another way to get to that spot from that side, i've never done it that way
Same
Yea, me too. If you know where the tanktrapps star on the other side of the hill, you have to go a little bit to the right with some speed and land basicly right behind the tanktrapps. Real fun with light tanks.
All fun and games until the first person you kill jumps in a rage plane and bombs your tank
They've patched them
Some of the positions and access points are very tank size sensitive. I often play the M22, small, fast, quick, and a very high hp/t ratio--among the highest of all tiers. DID NOT say it's the highest, but I've yet to find an equal at or near its BR. At least three of my places/points you couldn't access because of your size and the reverse is true for one is or very difficult for me because my small size often gets me trapped amongst boulders you can straddle. Also can't consistently find the the sweet spot and execute the appropriate maneuver. A recent patch precludes your size in one, but two alternate points still allow me passage. To access sniping points in the same area, size and hp/t are THE critical differences where similar sized vehicles can't transit. You've explained how folks got to three place which I couldn't deduce. However, a fair number of your perches IMO leave you significantly exposed and vulnerable to counter sniping which is all I basically do. I scrutinize for spots that allow me to sit an entire game because counter sniping is extremely difficult. I mostly get killed by aircraft or remaining excessively exposed after a string of... maybe ten shots without ducking back into cover. It becomes much more challenging to remain alive in an M22 when playing at 5.6 BR because the folks there are generally much better shooters at all ranges--must peek very carefully and BRIEFLY. Yes, I sometimes shoot a string of 10 shots because I get lost in the moment to kill a target 'now.' I regularly use four access points to perches at which I've never seen anyone else or of which I've heard people talk. They're stunningly advantageous enough that other very experienced players sometimes get so frustrated and angry at their lack of an effective battlefield counter to the point that all that's left to them is to say how I'm not a good, player, I'm cheating, etc. Your vid of others, even in squads operating outside boundaries show I'm far from alone in my efforts. Gaijin's aware of what's going on and could stop them if it wanted. Till then, happy hunting and I've yet to see anyone's whining and insults change their battlefield results. Immediately before this sentence, discovered I can access both sides of a
rail bridge--surprised, unhappy, and dead enemy en masse.
So this is why my tank can't climb hills
this sucks that they patched some of ash rivers stuff
Most of these are useless since everyone knows about them. You get sniped instantly at top tier when you try to use them.
It's mostly due to thermals and being rather exposed to reach some of them
@@unepintade, for one thing thermals worked in exposing... The idiots who think they're safe rushing an abuse sniper nest spot only to get yeeted out of game by thermal sights
why would you want these spots to be fixed, battles are won through maneuvering and tactics
Most of these are not broken. It takes a while to even get to them and once you do, you are extremely exposed. You would have to bank on an enemy team that is virtually blind for those to work.
Good thing about jungle sniper hills on the right is, that both teams got access to it which makes the spot easy to counter, I would say that it is unofficial but one of the most important battlefields in the jungle map. I personaly tend to go to these spots only to catch people camping there off guard and flank caps/more conventional camping spots, simple extension of the crappy jungle map to the right (that is pretty small, lets be honest) would partly solve the problem instead of removing it. As for the spots in the video, I can imagine how dangerous this might be at lower brs where there are no thermals (lot of the spots seem to be very easy to notice with thermals) and speedy boi vehicles.
I feel like these have all been removed by now right?
Nice now no one going to cap anymore
why do these spots need to be fixed? its part of strategy
It isn’t a part of strategy, you’re just getting into a place you’re not supposed to be in and getting kills you don’t deserve
I can confirm that gaijin just patched the sideclimbing glitchy terrain. So many of these spots may not be accesable anymore. I knew that they would patch this sooner or later after your video
Can confirm, I tried some of these, especially the side climbing on Kuban, and it isn't working like in the video. Some side climbing works, others don't. The only way I was able to get up that hill in Kuban was with the ASU57, where I found a gap in the tank traps *just* wide enough for that tank and a hill not too steep to climb.
delete this before Gaijin fixes them
Bro promise you won’t tell
It'll take them years to fix! Hahaha
Actually lately they have been patching certain spots in the maps believe it or not
But who know how long it could take with gaijin
@@Zakkattack54 cant get to most of them i found this video today :(
Berlin: F3 TOP RIGHT CORNER,
FIELDS OF NORMANDY: A1
FINLAND: SPAWN AT B5, MOVE TO A4
FROZEN PASS: C3, D3, F7
JUNGLE: G5, F2,
Japan: b3,c3, b4,c4, A3 BORDERING B3, BOTTOM LEFT CORNER OF A1 B1.
"I hope these spots can get fixed"
Hahahahhaa no
Some of them sure are op, if your playing against bots or something, many players know about this spots but don't even bother because you will get claped trying to get (especialy in toptier with tier with thermals) there or when you expose yourself to shoot someone, because most of them dont have cover or too steep to be in a hulldown position, not even mentioning revenge kill. So i see this as a risky gamble which can get you diretly to hangar or a very good game
oh cry more. Spots like that never exist in real life and real battle do they? go back to world of tanks if you don't like the realism of war thunder.
Ah yes, realism of War Thunder where Germany and USSR fight together against US-UK in 1942 Stalingrad in their 90' vehicles without any infantry support. You know, some people want a balanced fun game :)
@@nikbond188 then play World of Tanks
Yeah because World of Tanks is Sooooooo realistic.
"War Thunder is realistic " now that a good joke , inaccurate armor value , stat , modifications and pen for atleast 2/3 of the tank in game . So atleast use your brain next time gaijin shill
@@ThatGingerGuy51 That was kind of the point. I think that flew right over your head there son.
Didn't expect to know so many spots already! I usually got sniped from someone in a dumb position and copied it.
Also, the su100p is amazing at 'sideclimbing', it has a weird combination of grip, power to weight and a low gravitational point. On Carpathians I found out it could climb hills with the red flashing text asking you to request help of allies (the tow button). plus where you are standing at 13:05 can be achieved without a run up from the d8 spawn with the su 100p (m18 can do it with a lot of speed going into it).
Every time you shot your 20mm at the spots I kept saying “what the hell are you doing? Your gonna give yourself away!”
Gaijin patched some of these today, you can no longer climb steep hills sideways like in the Ash river map
What is „map abuse“? There is no such term in the War Thunder rules. Rule 2.11 says that „Usage of errors and bugs in the game mechanics“ is not allowed. But: what does that mean? I can climb a steep hill in a Puma but not in a Marder. I guess that is intended, as it is realistic. So how then should a player know that climbing another hill he can climb is not allowed? In my opinion it is NOT up to the players to decide what is an error or bug. Gaijin has to design the maps properly and redesign them if they are unfair.
Now that i think about it, I blame Zakkattack54 for fucking up the game for thousands and thousands of players.
Holy shit man, you blew up! So proud, hope it continues like this for u. Btw where did the morning streams go? Kinda miss them
who else have realized that most of the broken places was fixed in the recent update... some side climb hills becomes lot slippers than before
Ash river in 2022 is still a huge mess with multiple buggy and unfair spots, you are still able to get up the large bridge multiple ways in around 2 - 3 minutes after spawning
There's also spots you can get to using assistance of a teammate not included here. Depends on what vehicle you bring and your friend brings though.
Another filthy spot on jungle for all my low profile homies is near D4 on the island. There are a couple big rock formations that block the view from the east and there is a smaller rock that with some momentum you can ramp up onto the rock formation. You can maneuver up there behind the rocks and see about 80% of the eastern part of the map. (Works much better with smaller tanks)
"Now for Karelia there are gonna be a lot of spots", man, I was already shocked with Ash River hahaha
Karelia has a lot of foliage and a very trolly landscape, anything that is difficult to see from over 800m is branded as 'broken' on that map and has been since CBT. Its such a competitive map and thats why people hate it, its not a tried and true basic ass formula like Counter Strike's Dust II that punishes creativity and rewards meta, so its bad.
I love the old maps because so much of the creative freedom is still there, and all it takes is one well placed shot from a half decent player to end your reign of terror.
@@LoneWolf-kw3ol I remember playing on this map like, 5 years ago, and Kursk, and all the old maps, and I loved it, now there are so many maps that I'm not so comfortable playing anymore... =(
@@jerecosta8599 honestly the only revamped map i liked was kursk, and i *barely* liked it more than the old version. Italy revamp literally had no changes that didnt benefit a HEATFS spammer, and kursk revamp only served to break the constant snipefest, but now you have M18s and pumas who can almost safely rush B with only a few narrow windows to shoot them from, and they didnt even fix the core issue with B point which was that half the wooden huts can be shot through but the other half couldnt.
They really should add volokolamsk back in, that map was a lot of fun. Simple, straightforward and rewarded skill instead of luck. I used to average 8 kills a game on volo regardless of my lineup because i knew exactly how to play it. Port novo is the same way, play it correctly and you will be rewarded, play it badly and you will be punished, which is why everyone hates it.
I have to disagree with the "unfair advantage" assertion. As in real world experience, war is NOT fair (nor is life for that matter). You find any advantage you can and if someone has the skill to avoid getting tagged while exploring these areas, good on them.
It's a videogame?
@@sneakysnek8416 Yes... A game that touts itself as an accurate depiction of the real battle experience.
@@voxpopulus War Thunder is anything but realistic lmfao. Also fairness > realism on every other video game any day. Youre just excusing shitty gameplay.
if two teams have OP spots than it could be considered balanced to be completely fair. not too mention helicopters and planes are your worst enemy because you tend to have no place to take cover in.
The thing is, if we start completely blocking off certain portions of the map, it will sooner or later boil down to a lane-map with just 3 to 5 lanes per map with no freedom of movement between them except for intended "connectors". One of the best features of this game is the amount of openness you feel while driving around. Completely different from how World of tanks used to do it.
Also, knowing good locations on every map isn't an easy thing to learn and you should be rewarded for the effort of finding, and getting into, these spots.
Thanks for the tip, I'll keep an eye out for the enemy using those locations
i love places you can get to by abusing map design, I did it all the time in CODWAW by map glitching. I even found my own map glitches. Bottom line is that this sort of activity isn't OP because you can still be destroyed no matter what. Being hull down outside of the map does not increase your survivability at least in terms of combat any more than inside the map. If people should be punished for stealthy gameplay then may as well make every single map in the game a flat arena so nobody gets an advantage.
random vids channel desert warfare
Banning such a spots or 'Goatclimbing' is one of the reasons why I left WOT; making game just closed area with learned ways to win, like an stupid 'arena-like' game...
finally i got my first game where i got 1st place in the leader board thanks to this video and not to mention the nice 4k rp gain
Arcade, realistic or simulator?
@@katyusha1283 realistic