And on that list m9 is higher end in practicality score. Options for red dot and simple supressor which doesnt need nielsen device to work. No experience about sig but i think i pick up beretta just for practical purposes alone. Bone stock 1911 in .45acp is one least practical choice. Small capacity, higher recoil no factory dot option, no supressor and no light rail. Hard to pick between sig and glock which would come as second personal choice. Edit: Maybe i would pick glock because im more familiar with it. Stock trigger is nothing to brag about but it is workable.
Yeah the navy MK25 aka P226 is a better option than the P320. The P320 just has that “go off on its on problem” Lol but other than that the P320 is a decent gun. Glock is always going to be for the win. Although the P226 is better especially on paper, if I have an issue with my P226 or a P320 fire control module, I will need a professional gunsmith. If I have an issue with any of my Glocks which never happens but if it did, I am the gunsmith Lol. Way too easy to take down, great reliability, easy to maintain with very few parts. Glock is always going to win in the battle of handguns for these reasons alone.
I would add a 38/357 revolver for the important facts of the versatile use of ammunition, reloading and bullet availability. If it comes to the point you speak of, ammo will disappear quickly and even before most likely. Auto pistols are tossing the valuable reloadable case to places unknown.🤔
I no doubt agree 100% about Glock being the #1 pick. However, whatever SHTF scenario you encounter a robust 357 magnum revolver should be on this list. We can argue back and forth about capacity in reality. Taking small to large game and even birds with shotshells a revolver wins hands down. Now let's take an entire family in the SHTF situation, every family no doubt has a member that's reluctant to learn the manual of arms of a gun. Now I ask you if it came down that non shooting enthusiast family member what would you rather see them try to use a semi-auto or a double action revolver? Lose or damage a magazine and your semi-auto is now a paper weight. As for capacity as a retired law enforcement officer unarmed assailants in most cases don't want to draw straws on who wants to get shot. If multiple armed assailants attack you, you are screwed whether your capacity is 17 or 6 rounds.
The 2.0 metal is the best striker fired pistol made. I never thought I'd give up my G19 but the 2.0 is so much better and more accurate. At least for me
1911, Beretta M9, Glock, sure. But HK? Nope, not as common as you apparently think. Now, the Smith & Wesson M&P series? It's a slam dunk: super common, adopted by tons of LE agencies, great ergonomics, build quality runs with or exceeds any modern polymer model, extreme reliability, and price on both the new and used market is absolutely outstanding. A Sig choice would not be the P320/M18/M17; it's still not sufficiently common on the market but for a federal agency or two and of course, U.S. military. A better choice would be the Sig 226/229 in that they're readily available in .40 S&W and 9mm, there are abundant leather gear and magazines available, their infinite rebuildability, and of course extreme reliability.
I feel like the P226 / P229 was missed. It should have been in there, especially since the Beretta was in that list. Honestly, I would go with the Following 1) 1911 / Staccato P 2) P226 3) Beretta 92 series 4) SIG P320 5) HK P30 The P30 only got last because it is probably the least likely candidate to find extra mags and parts for. 4th is the P320 because I don't like striker fire all that much. 3) Beretta 92 because parts availability reliable and metal frame. 2nd P226 because parts availability, reliability, and more aftermarket support. 1st 1911 / Staccato P because I shoot it the best, It's been around for a long time, it has the manual safety standard, properly fit ones are very reliable and accurate. The only downside would be for the 2011 and that is the magazine availability for now. Otherwise the only other issue is they require a little bit more maintenance than the other platforms. If I had to take any of those guns and know that I may have to do service work on it or get more parts for it that I don't already have for it, I would take the P226 for the 1st pick and P320 as the 2nd pick. It's really a toss up for my 1st and 2nd place for me, but I would be very hard pressed to be swayed away from my 1911 design.
Good list. Honestly though, I’m still in the journey of finding out which 9mm pistol should be for me (for comfort, concealment, accuracy, and reliability). Note that I live in CA. * I’d love to have a Glock (such as a G19, G17, or G34) however, I’d spend more than $1000 total because they’d need frame work for the undercuts and finger groove removal. Stock Glocks make my middle finger knuckle uncontrollable because of how big my hands are. * A .45 ACP pistol would be lovely and I’d choose the Springfield XD45 Tactical (barrel that’s 5 inches). There’s a 90% chance this might become mine if I want a pistol in .45 ACP. * Beretta: I’ve only dry fired a 92 (or M9) and its DA trigger is on but not the best. I’ve shot with the PX4 Storm and that can be recommended too though not my first choice. I mean it’s accurate and soft shooting. However, grip is wide and the DA trigger is very long (though I’ve learned that I can handle it). * Springfield XD9 series. These for sure I’d recommend. The Service Model (4 inch barrel) is very soft shooting and feels kind of like the Glock 19x (my police brother used to have one that I dry fired) but slightly heavier. The XD9 sub-compact is very good and I’m still considering that one to be my first pistol. * An ankle gun/pocket pistol/hideout gun. For sure the Sig Sauer P238 HD. I think snub nose revolvers of any caliber (as long as a person can handle them well) would be nice. Plus, revolvers will not leave brass on the floor (which has a lot of benefits that I will not mention). ** CA Compliant Guns I Want To Try: Springfield Hellcat Pro, S&W M&P M2.0 series, Springfield XDM Elite with 3.8 inch barrels, and Sig Sauer M18/CA320. ** Other Guns I Want To Try: Glock 49, Sig Sauer P365XL, Sig Sauer P365 X Macro, and more.
I'm 75% done with my kitchen remodeling and then I can buy more guns. I just got a Colt A4, I want a FN 9mm, Glock 10mm and I want 2 Kimber 1911 9mm that work 🤠
I personally would buy 1 Staccato P DPO vs buying 2 Kimbers . Shadow Systems Foundation Series is cheaper than stock Glock but has 10x better features , ergos and OPTICS mounting system . Shadow Systems uses Glock platform but modernized it to this century lol.. S&W M2.0 10mm is freaking solid as well and fairly new . The G20 G4 is pretty tried and true . I'm a huge Colt 556n fan . I pretty much own all of them except for a few lol . I freaking love the TDP Colt M4A1 SOCOM Block IIs and MK18 MOD 1 CQBRs . Those TDP Colts are some of the most reliable Carbines on planet earth . They may not be the absolute best but it's for sure something you can trust your life too
I know Beretta has addressed some of the issues in the newer models but the original 92 military version was like holding a coke can vs the 1911 and the safety should have just been a de-cocker in my opinion. I was in Marine Corps Security Forces, we transitioned to the M9 from the 1911 but ran into issues with it and at the time Marines were not as accurate with it vs the 1911, so we moved back to 1911s for a sidearm on duty. Most of the time when on duty the pistol was a secondary weapon, your M16 or a Shotgun was your primary.
Ok, myself, I would only use non gucci, not modified versions of the following: 1-Glock 17/19 2-Sig P320/M17 3-Beretta 92/M9 4-Any basic 1911, .45acp 5-M&P 2.0 full size 9mm/.45acp 6-IWB-Sig P365 XL
No particular order.. 1. Glock / Shadow Systems (G45 , G47 , XR920 or DR920).. 2. Sig Classic Series ( P220 , P226 or P229).. 3. HK USP / P30.. 4. Sig P320 AXG or TXG ( X-Carry Size).. 5. CZ 75..
@@seanwhite304 The list was SHTF, which might knock off the HK, CZ, or SIg 320 variants off the list to make room for more common and equally or more reliable platforms.
@@donaldardell5742 HK USP is literally the most most tested pistol ever . Military tested over 3 million rounds on the USP for offensive pistol platform . Theres absolutely 0 way I could not put it on the list .. As for the P320 I trust it with my life . Fine if you done . I have little over 30k rounds fired thru my X5 TXGs because I used them in Competition for couple of years . I'm creeping up on 20k for my CZ SP01 and Shadow 2 in total rounds fired. My list is mainly pistols I've tested and I know work . The only one I dont actually own is the USP . I just know it's one of the most reliable pistols ever made . To my knowledge the M2.0 did not even pass the first round of testing for the MHS Program. That's not saying all that much but it says something . Also to my knowledge theres only been 4 pistols that have passed the full 76k round testing process. Those pistols are G17 G3 , HK USP , MK25 and M9. This test obviously had parts BRAKE due to wear and tear but nothing that couldn't be fixed. I believe they ran about 10 different pistols and those were the only ones that passed . Me thinks this test was in early 2000s . Definitely not a recent test but still says a lot
@@seanwhite304 You may not realize MHS testing was no more than a show to provide a predetermined outcome, which is unfortunately pretty common in government procurement. Genuine 'testing' is a controlled procedure utilized to attempt to mimic or reproduce failures that would have revealed themselves in field use. While honest testing is useful, actual field use is the gold standard, as it may reveal scenarios that the artificially-induced testing protocols missed or just didn't engage. To be truthful I don't think the 'Shadow Systems' meets that gold-standard criteria, or if it does is eclipsed by several other makes and models in actual professional use. As having been both involved in the industry as well as an agency armorer and instructor for federal agencies, I can say with some authority the difference in build quality between the Sig P22_ series and the 320/M-whatever is absolutely shocking. Objectively, the Sig 320 is a inexpensively-made firearm built to a price point. From an armorer's perspective, polymer HK products are pretty unremarkable and maintain a reputation among those that don't know much about them that is little more than Fuddlore. And that's not to say they're 'bad,' just undeserving of their Fuddlore reputation.
In no particular order: 1911 Glock 17/19/whatever uses those mags Sig P320 S&W M&P M2.0 (what I currently use) 357 Revolver The most widely used platforms currently by military, law enforcement and civilians. There are other great options mentioned in the video/thread, but I’m using what’s the most popular right now. Popularity means access to parts, mags and ammo. The revolver is because sometimes you just want to be a cowboy.
I don't see any wrong answers in the comments. Most modern day produced semi auto handguns today are reliable, so it comes down to - what works good for you,what's comfortable in your hand(as you will shoot it better) this list is simply one man's preference.
I own examples of the 1911 and the USP. I quite often use the USP for concealed , but I favor the 1911 for SHTF because parts and magazines are found almost everywhere.
I think the G19x is the best looking of the bunch. And you disrespected the P226. You could have replaced both the 1911 and the Beretta (needs locking block after 5,000 rds.) with the P226.
Very solid list! Being a Glock 19 gen 5 owner it's a solid build. The only other thing i could come up with is the 2011, specifically pit viper! But i know most can't afford the price of $7k.
Absolutely, it is one gorgeous gun, but at that point I'd rather have a fully kitted ar-15 with a suppressor, flashlight, LPVO, multiple mags and a ton of 5.56 for that same $7k. It's too bad though cuz it is SUCH a clean pistol.
I have an old Beretta made in Italy 92 FC compact which would answer most of the complaints of the to large size of the regular 92. The larger magazines fit my Compact just extends slightly I think S&W ( or colt) .357 magnum revolver should be on this list too
Great vid but how can you shoot with those big gloves, I was getting nervous when you were drawing that glock with those black gloves especially because the gloves were loose fitting and they looked long at the fingers 😅
How about a revolver type for shtf? A good .357 s&w. 2 types of ammo to choose from Incase ammo is scarce, reliable, sturdy. Maybe not the best for quick follow up shots but will still put a fat hole. I always thought about that, if I could only choose one which would it be, My Glock19 or s&w .357
I'm definitely not a glock boy. Like yourself, it's not my favorite. For all the reasons you mentioned. What is my most edc? My glock 29. It just goes bang every time. 10mm, my favorite ammunition. Obvious reason. My favorite's, Beretta LTE amazing hand gun. Tied with my Dan Wesson 45 1911. Both are a little hard to conceal carry. Great video! Thank you
For the parameters you layed out, I would think build simplicity would be king. Red dots are nice but add corners to snag and batteries that die. Modularity is great, but in a high stress environment", taking your firearm apart risks losing parts or introducing accidental function loss. In my own set up I like adding components that work together. My glock mags also work in my sub2k. Both are super basic and proven reliable through 15 years of operation. Maybe you could create a new list of firearms too simple to fail, but that offer side benefits more complex firearms can't offer.
Ruger P-Series....... another honorable mention which goes "BANG" each time the trigger is pulled as do my Ruger P90 in 45 ACP, P89 in 9 MM and P94 in 40 S&W....and affordable.
You wanted my Opinion what is the most common ammunition used ??? Let me see 22 lr 9.mm 40 cal and don't get me wrong People are going to use 45 acp and 10mm 38 and 357 32 acp and 380 Auto and 25 acp whatever anyone that can get the Is hands on
You haven't reviewed a company called IWI (ISRAELI WEAPON INDUSTRIES). IWI MAKES 2 9mm pistols: a Masada striker fired pistol and a Jericho 2 whichI have. The was compared to a Glock 17. For accuracy, depending ability, and price point, the Masada won. IWI makes weapons for combat.
This type debate is what gun writers make a living doing. One year they malign for instance a 30 30. Then 2 years later they write another article that features the "Venerable 30 30" how it never dies. Billions of trees been cut and made into magazines for this endless debate.
🤔... I don't think I could limit myself to just one. I'd get all 4 of these and then pick one to standardize, say a Glock or M17, for multiples. 1) M17 for the grip module. Damaged grip frame it can be swapped. I'd take the M17 over the M18 they're both full-size grips and 1/2 slide isn't that much of a difference. The stock recoil spring can go for 10,000 rounds, the M18 only 5,000 before replacement. The full-size can also be setup to use 1911 springs. 2) G19 Gen 5... I like the G45, but the 19 allows for the use of a larger variety of magazines 15, 17, 19, 24 etc.. 3) Beretta 92 4)VP9 5) Some snubby revolver
Slightly different twist but here are my top 5 in categories I’d like to have in a SHTF situation 1. Modern double stack striker fired that holds at least 15 rounds from major mfg (Glock, 320, M&P, VP9, etc…) 2. Concealable semiautomatic that holds at least 10 rounds 3. .22lr semiautomatic pistol capable of attaching a suppressor and is accurate enough to take precise shots out to 20ish yards 4. Braced “pistol” that accepts same mags as #1 and is capable of being suppressed 5. Gas powered semiautomatic airsoft version of #1 for quiet training
Since someone already made polymer framed 1911, its time someone makes a polymer framed M9 (yeas, they can. The patent expired long ago. That's why Girsan can make a perfect clone).
Not the 19X, should be a regular 19. The 19X has a non-standard floorplate matching a unique-to-the-19X lip on the grip. Certain 19 mags will not fit in the 19X. A regular 19 will take all the 19 mags and the 19X mags.
Regular g19 mags are too short for the g19x because it has g17 length frame. Gen 5 g17 mags will not fit the g19x because of the longer base plates. Earlier gen mags work. G19 for g19 mags or g45 for g17 mags.
A solid group of firearms there. As for all pistols I've personally used or tried, My Top 5 are: 1. Walther PDP 9mm 2. FN 510 Tac 10mm 3. Canik SFX Rival. 9mm 4. IWI Jericho Enhanced 9mm 5. Sig Sauer P320 9mm
Younger and less experienced shooters may overlook, or not even know about, the Gen 1-2-3 S&W semiautos such as Models 59/659/5906, 4006, 645/4506, etc. Again, extreme quality and reliability, infinite rebuildability, good availability of leather gear and quality magazines.
Everyone has a opinion on what the Best Five handguns. Just like saying. What's the BEST AND TOP FIVE Trucks made!! Questions Opinions. Bottom line. What is your Budget and what Firearm is comfortable for You! And what purpose are you buying for? And Are you planning to go to the Shooting Ranch and Practice! Practice! Practice and get very Familiar with your baby. And most of All!! Go take a firearms Class. Know your State Gun Laws. And get your CCW card. Just saying. Peace out!
The only thing I'd hate... is having to work on the sheesh, the VP9 has a lot of parts, but I'm still getting one. I have a P30 so already have a backup.
I put a langdon tactical "trigger job in a bag" in my Beretta M9A1. I also added a ported barrel and Oh My Goodness....This thing shoots flat, fast, and accurately.
G19X is perhaps the worst Glock double stack 9mm choice possible. They are not compatible with normal gen 5 g17 mags!!! G45 makes much more sense if you want that larger grip. Really a normal g19 would be best so you could use the shorter g19 mag.
Except you can find previous gen mags very easily. And if absolutely necessary, you could take a dremel to the grip to make mags fit. But if we are talking true apocalyptic scenario and want to be able to scavenge as many mags as possible.....Glock 26
I don't care about printing people make that too much of a big deal. I'm tired of youtubers pushing the micro 9mm lol it's getting sick. If full size guns weren't meant to be concealed carried then no one would make iwb holsters for them. Point blank period. The m&p actually is up there with the realibilty of a glock it should of been on the list
The USP is an okay gun, never impressed me with anything more than cz75 or p226. Even if the rest of the guns stop shooting after let's say 10k rounds, in a SHTF scenario, you would be lucky to have access to 500 or less.
A Kimber 1911?!? Dude, you might as well put a rock as #5… Another deputy tan a Kimber 1911 and the armorer had to bring his full kit out to the range when she qualified cuz every time it would have a major malfunction
If you have the same weapon system so you can take the same mags as the said military that is in power at the time you do the math on that one that would be the preferred system that being said it doesn't really matter cuz you can just take a drop weapon and pick it up along with the other system etcetera does it really matter I mean you can sit here and speculate on what's the best thing here and what's the best thing their overall it's not going to last forever in a poop hit the fan situation anyway and you're going to end up switching systems out for something else
End of the world I’d be using a rifle more than pistol (don’t get me wrong I do love pistols). So I’d stick with my PDP until such time as battlefield pick up is necessary than I would go to Glock most likely since it’s the most likely to be the most numerous type of pistol I would encounter. If for some reason roaming the earth is something preying on humans that isn’t human, then I’ll carry whatever 10mm I can find lol.
In the way this is framed... look no further than battlefield loot drops... In the meantime I'm rock'in a Taurus G3 with a Gmconn 1200 lumen light 🤷♂️
3 out of 5. The 1911 and USP recommendations are dumb. The former doesn't support drop-in parts replacement. Any gun that requires fitting is out. The latter is only useful for LARPing. It has no support in the industry. You should replace these with well-represented sidearms like the S&W M&P series and the Sig P226. Both of those have modernized versions that take red dots and standard lights. The other recommendations are good.
I think the beretta is the most underestimated handgun that’s widely used
And on that list m9 is higher end in practicality score.
Options for red dot and simple supressor which doesnt need nielsen device to work.
No experience about sig but i think i pick up beretta just for practical purposes
alone.
Bone stock 1911 in .45acp is one least practical choice. Small capacity, higher recoil
no factory dot option, no supressor and no light rail.
Hard to pick between sig and glock which would come as second personal choice.
Edit: Maybe i would pick glock because im more familiar with it.
Stock trigger is nothing to brag about but it is workable.
the M9 jams a lot and the accessories are limited.
The APX is far superior to the M9. It's will not jam, it's easy to clean and maintain and you can buy two for the price of one M9.
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@@ericthompson3978 what?
Sig P226. Should have AT LEAST been an honorable mention.
And Sig P229.
The CZ 75 series and the Sig P226 series are (imho) appreciably more deserving of inclusion than are some autoloaders your selected.
226 ftw!
Yeah the navy MK25 aka P226 is a better option than the P320. The P320 just has that “go off on its on problem” Lol but other than that the P320 is a decent gun. Glock is always going to be for the win.
Although the P226 is better especially on paper, if I have an issue with my P226 or a P320 fire control module, I will need a professional gunsmith. If I have an issue with any of my Glocks which never happens but if it did, I am the gunsmith Lol.
Way too easy to take down, great reliability, easy to maintain with very few parts. Glock is always going to win in the battle of handguns for these reasons alone.
I carry the CZ75D compact. Love it!
I would add a 38/357 revolver for the important facts of the versatile use of ammunition, reloading and bullet availability. If it comes to the point you speak of, ammo will disappear quickly and even before most likely. Auto pistols are tossing the valuable reloadable case to places unknown.🤔
I no doubt agree 100% about Glock being the #1 pick. However, whatever SHTF scenario you encounter a robust 357 magnum revolver should be on this list. We can argue back and forth about capacity in reality. Taking small to large game and even birds with shotshells a revolver wins hands down. Now let's take an entire family in the SHTF situation, every family no doubt has a member that's reluctant to learn the manual of arms of a gun. Now I ask you if it came down that non shooting enthusiast family member what would you rather see them try to use a semi-auto or a double action revolver? Lose or damage a magazine and your semi-auto is now a paper weight. As for capacity as a retired law enforcement officer unarmed assailants in most cases don't want to draw straws on who wants to get shot. If multiple armed assailants attack you, you are screwed whether your capacity is 17 or 6 rounds.
I would personally swap out the 320 for a M&P. Solid list 👍
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This. And lose the Kimber.
Oh yeah. He included an HK over a Smith & Wesson M&P? A glaring error.
I couldn’t agree more I never had an M&P fail in anyway. Nor one of them.
The 2.0 metal is the best striker fired pistol made. I never thought I'd give up my G19 but the 2.0 is so much better and more accurate. At least for me
1911, Beretta M9, Glock, sure. But HK? Nope, not as common as you apparently think. Now, the Smith & Wesson M&P series? It's a slam dunk: super common, adopted by tons of LE agencies, great ergonomics, build quality runs with or exceeds any modern polymer model, extreme reliability, and price on both the new and used market is absolutely outstanding. A Sig choice would not be the P320/M18/M17; it's still not sufficiently common on the market but for a federal agency or two and of course, U.S. military. A better choice would be the Sig 226/229 in that they're readily available in .40 S&W and 9mm, there are abundant leather gear and magazines available, their infinite rebuildability, and of course extreme reliability.
I made a Glock clone that runs flawlessly. It was pretty cheap to build as well. So affordable I built two and gave one to a friend.
I feel like the P226 / P229 was missed. It should have been in there, especially since the Beretta was in that list.
Honestly, I would go with the Following
1) 1911 / Staccato P
2) P226
3) Beretta 92 series
4) SIG P320
5) HK P30
The P30 only got last because it is probably the least likely candidate to find extra mags and parts for. 4th is the P320 because I don't like striker fire all that much. 3) Beretta 92 because parts availability reliable and metal frame. 2nd P226 because parts availability, reliability, and more aftermarket support. 1st 1911 / Staccato P because I shoot it the best, It's been around for a long time, it has the manual safety standard, properly fit ones are very reliable and accurate. The only downside would be for the 2011 and that is the magazine availability for now. Otherwise the only other issue is they require a little bit more maintenance than the other platforms.
If I had to take any of those guns and know that I may have to do service work on it or get more parts for it that I don't already have for it, I would take the P226 for the 1st pick and P320 as the 2nd pick.
It's really a toss up for my 1st and 2nd place for me, but I would be very hard pressed to be swayed away from my 1911 design.
I recently got a Rock Island 10mm which I like, but I have a couple of Sigs and Kimbers in 9mm and 45acp I prefer them over my Glock
Great list. My old Ruger P89 is a tank, and 9mm is readily available. I think the "best" option a personal choice.
Good list. Honestly though, I’m still in the journey of finding out which 9mm pistol should be for me (for comfort, concealment, accuracy, and reliability). Note that I live in CA.
* I’d love to have a Glock (such as a G19, G17, or G34) however, I’d spend more than $1000 total because they’d need frame work for the undercuts and finger groove removal. Stock Glocks make my middle finger knuckle uncontrollable because of how big my hands are.
* A .45 ACP pistol would be lovely and I’d choose the Springfield XD45 Tactical (barrel that’s 5 inches). There’s a 90% chance this might become mine if I want a pistol in .45 ACP.
* Beretta: I’ve only dry fired a 92 (or M9) and its DA trigger is on but not the best. I’ve shot with the PX4 Storm and that can be recommended too though not my first choice. I mean it’s accurate and soft shooting. However, grip is wide and the DA trigger is very long (though I’ve learned that I can handle it).
* Springfield XD9 series. These for sure I’d recommend. The Service Model (4 inch barrel) is very soft shooting and feels kind of like the Glock 19x (my police brother used to have one that I dry fired) but slightly heavier. The XD9 sub-compact is very good and I’m still considering that one to be my first pistol.
* An ankle gun/pocket pistol/hideout gun. For sure the Sig Sauer P238 HD. I think snub nose revolvers of any caliber (as long as a person can handle them well) would be nice. Plus, revolvers will not leave brass on the floor (which has a lot of benefits that I will not mention).
** CA Compliant Guns I Want To Try: Springfield Hellcat Pro, S&W M&P M2.0 series, Springfield XDM Elite with 3.8 inch barrels, and Sig Sauer M18/CA320.
** Other Guns I Want To Try: Glock 49, Sig Sauer P365XL, Sig Sauer P365 X Macro, and more.
I'm 75% done with my kitchen remodeling and then I can buy more guns. I just got a Colt A4, I want a FN 9mm, Glock 10mm and I want 2 Kimber 1911 9mm that work 🤠
I personally would buy 1 Staccato P DPO vs buying 2 Kimbers .
Shadow Systems Foundation Series is cheaper than stock Glock but has 10x better features , ergos and OPTICS mounting system . Shadow Systems uses Glock platform but modernized it to this century lol..
S&W M2.0 10mm is freaking solid as well and fairly new . The G20 G4 is pretty tried and true .
I'm a huge Colt 556n fan . I pretty much own all of them except for a few lol . I freaking love the TDP Colt M4A1 SOCOM Block IIs and MK18 MOD 1 CQBRs . Those TDP Colts are some of the most reliable Carbines on planet earth . They may not be the absolute best but it's for sure something you can trust your life too
I know Beretta has addressed some of the issues in the newer models but the original 92 military version was like holding a coke can vs the 1911 and the safety should have just been a de-cocker in my opinion. I was in Marine Corps Security Forces, we transitioned to the M9 from the 1911 but ran into issues with it and at the time Marines were not as accurate with it vs the 1911, so we moved back to 1911s for a sidearm on duty. Most of the time when on duty the pistol was a secondary weapon, your M16 or a Shotgun was your primary.
Ok, myself, I would only use non gucci, not modified versions of the following:
1-Glock 17/19
2-Sig P320/M17
3-Beretta 92/M9
4-Any basic 1911, .45acp
5-M&P 2.0 full size 9mm/.45acp
6-IWB-Sig P365 XL
Mine is my M&P 2.0 10mm with no safety lever and a 4.625 inch barrel. Totally customized!!!!
Full house 10mm is no joke.
Why anybody other than collectors would choose a 19x over a G45 is questionable to say the least.
Love my G45. Stock to the bone.
Both are essentially the same pistol
Love the G45
@@mdavis717 yea if you don’t bother to really look at them they are. The G45 has better features
Just wondering why you say that. Nothing bad about what you said just wondering
No particular order..
1. Glock / Shadow Systems (G45 , G47 , XR920 or DR920)..
2. Sig Classic Series ( P220 , P226 or P229)..
3. HK USP / P30..
4. Sig P320 AXG or TXG ( X-Carry Size)..
5. CZ 75..
Where's the S&W M&P?
@@donaldardell5742 M&P M2.0 is a phenomenal pistol and would be excellent but I'd rather have P226 or Shadow Systems.
@@seanwhite304 The list was SHTF, which might knock off the HK, CZ, or SIg 320 variants off the list to make room for more common and equally or more reliable platforms.
@@donaldardell5742 HK USP is literally the most most tested pistol ever . Military tested over 3 million rounds on the USP for offensive pistol platform . Theres absolutely 0 way I could not put it on the list ..
As for the P320 I trust it with my life . Fine if you done . I have little over 30k rounds fired thru my X5 TXGs because I used them in Competition for couple of years .
I'm creeping up on 20k for my CZ SP01 and Shadow 2 in total rounds fired.
My list is mainly pistols I've tested and I know work . The only one I dont actually own is the USP . I just know it's one of the most reliable pistols ever made .
To my knowledge the M2.0 did not even pass the first round of testing for the MHS Program. That's not saying all that much but it says something .
Also to my knowledge theres only been 4 pistols that have passed the full 76k round testing process. Those pistols are G17 G3 , HK USP , MK25 and M9. This test obviously had parts BRAKE due to wear and tear but nothing that couldn't be fixed. I believe they ran about 10 different pistols and those were the only ones that passed . Me thinks this test was in early 2000s . Definitely not a recent test but still says a lot
@@seanwhite304 You may not realize MHS testing was no more than a show to provide a predetermined outcome, which is unfortunately pretty common in government procurement. Genuine 'testing' is a controlled procedure utilized to attempt to mimic or reproduce failures that would have revealed themselves in field use. While honest testing is useful, actual field use is the gold standard, as it may reveal scenarios that the artificially-induced testing protocols missed or just didn't engage. To be truthful I don't think the 'Shadow Systems' meets that gold-standard criteria, or if it does is eclipsed by several other makes and models in actual professional use. As having been both involved in the industry as well as an agency armorer and instructor for federal agencies, I can say with some authority the difference in build quality between the Sig P22_ series and the 320/M-whatever is absolutely shocking. Objectively, the Sig 320 is a inexpensively-made firearm built to a price point. From an armorer's perspective, polymer HK products are pretty unremarkable and maintain a reputation among those that don't know much about them that is little more than Fuddlore. And that's not to say they're 'bad,' just undeserving of their Fuddlore reputation.
I have 2 Kimbers and 1 Sig Saur and love them all
In no particular order:
1911
Glock 17/19/whatever uses those mags
Sig P320
S&W M&P M2.0 (what I currently use)
357 Revolver
The most widely used platforms currently by military, law enforcement and civilians. There are other great options mentioned in the video/thread, but I’m using what’s the most popular right now. Popularity means access to parts, mags and ammo. The revolver is because sometimes you just want to be a cowboy.
Nice Pistol Selection Magic ✨ Thanks for sharing with us. God Bless 🙏
I don't see any wrong answers in the comments. Most modern day produced semi auto handguns today are reliable, so it comes down to - what works good for you,what's comfortable in your hand(as you will shoot it better) this list is simply one man's preference.
When it becomes necessary I want people to know I'm carrying but I will have a back up the Beretta won't be a hide out
I own examples of the 1911 and the USP. I quite often use the USP for concealed , but I favor the 1911 for SHTF because parts and magazines are found almost everywhere.
One that is missing is the Browning Hi Power.
I think the G19x is the best looking of the bunch. And you disrespected the P226. You could have replaced both the 1911 and the Beretta (needs locking block after 5,000 rds.) with the P226.
Very solid list! Being a Glock 19 gen 5 owner it's a solid build. The only other thing i could come up with is the 2011, specifically pit viper! But i know most can't afford the price of $7k.
Absolutely, it is one gorgeous gun, but at that point I'd rather have a fully kitted ar-15 with a suppressor, flashlight, LPVO, multiple mags and a ton of 5.56 for that same $7k. It's too bad though cuz it is SUCH a clean pistol.
@@Ravespillo Exactly!! 🇺🇸
I have an old Beretta made in Italy 92 FC compact which would answer most of the complaints of the to large size of the regular 92. The larger magazines fit my Compact just extends slightly
I think S&W ( or colt) .357 magnum revolver should be on this list too
Great vid but how can you shoot with those big gloves, I was getting nervous when you were drawing that glock with those black gloves especially because the gloves were loose fitting and they looked long at the fingers 😅
How about a revolver type for shtf? A good .357 s&w. 2 types of ammo to choose from Incase ammo is scarce, reliable, sturdy. Maybe not the best for quick follow up shots but will still put a fat hole. I always thought about that, if I could only choose one which would it be, My Glock19 or s&w .357
HK VP9 feels like it was made for your individual hand.
I'm definitely not a glock boy. Like yourself, it's not my favorite. For all the reasons you mentioned. What is my most edc? My glock 29. It just goes bang every time. 10mm, my favorite ammunition. Obvious reason. My favorite's, Beretta LTE amazing hand gun. Tied with my Dan Wesson 45 1911. Both are a little hard to conceal carry.
Great video! Thank you
For the parameters you layed out, I would think build simplicity would be king. Red dots are nice but add corners to snag and batteries that die. Modularity is great, but in a high stress environment", taking your firearm apart risks losing parts or introducing accidental function loss. In my own set up I like adding components that work together. My glock mags also work in my sub2k. Both are super basic and proven reliable through 15 years of operation. Maybe you could create a new list of firearms too simple to fail, but that offer side benefits more complex firearms can't offer.
Ruger P-Series....... another honorable mention which goes "BANG" each time the trigger is pulled as do my Ruger P90 in 45 ACP, P89 in 9 MM and P94 in 40 S&W....and affordable.
Good list but the P226 should definitely be on it
M9 doubles as a blunt force weapon and that makes it more versatile in a time of emergency.
Being married for the 3rd time, i sure appreciate the Glock more everyday.
You just need to pick nicer women….lol
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Learning curve much?
@@davidboyd7773 im a slow learner the definition of “its not you its me.”
My only change would be substituting the Sig P226 over the USP.
You wanted my Opinion what is the most common ammunition used ??? Let me see 22 lr 9.mm 40 cal and don't get me wrong People are going to use 45 acp and 10mm 38 and 357 32 acp and 380 Auto and 25 acp whatever anyone that can get the Is hands on
USP over a CZ 75 variant? Yeah I'm going to question that
Thanks but , I'll stick with my hellcat as my edc and my rockisland A1E comando as my I ain't playin
I'd get rid of the HK but the other 4 on the list are spot on you cannot argue with them.
Para p14 and usp45t are my two go-to
Nicely done report
I hated my p320 with a passion, it's like a Glock except needlessly more complicated inside and is an afterthought, I'll keep my p226 and p6
good comparison MP carry on. Happy glock finally put the sights on the top of the slide
You haven't reviewed a company called IWI (ISRAELI WEAPON INDUSTRIES). IWI MAKES 2 9mm pistols: a Masada striker fired pistol and a Jericho 2 whichI have. The was compared to a Glock 17. For accuracy, depending ability, and price point, the Masada won. IWI makes weapons for combat.
Nice Job!
Ditch the Glock.
This type debate is what gun writers make a living doing. One year they malign for instance a 30 30. Then 2 years later they write another article that features the "Venerable 30 30" how it never dies. Billions of trees been cut and made into magazines for this endless debate.
🤔... I don't think I could limit myself to just one. I'd get all 4 of these and then pick one to standardize, say a Glock or M17, for multiples.
1) M17 for the grip module. Damaged grip frame it can be swapped. I'd take the M17 over the M18 they're both full-size grips and 1/2 slide isn't that much of a difference. The stock recoil spring can go for 10,000 rounds, the M18 only 5,000 before replacement. The full-size can also be setup to use 1911 springs.
2) G19 Gen 5... I like the G45, but the 19 allows for the use of a larger variety of magazines 15, 17, 19, 24 etc..
3) Beretta 92
4)VP9
5) Some snubby revolver
Slightly different twist but here are my top 5 in categories I’d like to have in a SHTF situation
1. Modern double stack striker fired that holds at least 15 rounds from major mfg (Glock, 320, M&P, VP9, etc…)
2. Concealable semiautomatic that holds at least 10 rounds
3. .22lr semiautomatic pistol capable of attaching a suppressor and is accurate enough to take precise shots out to 20ish yards
4. Braced “pistol” that accepts same mags as #1 and is capable of being suppressed
5. Gas powered semiautomatic airsoft version of #1 for quiet training
If you don’t have a CZ 75 series on your list, you ain’t serious
Since someone already made polymer framed 1911, its time someone makes a polymer framed M9 (yeas, they can. The patent expired long ago. That's why Girsan can make a perfect clone).
Not the 19X, should be a regular 19. The 19X has a non-standard floorplate matching a unique-to-the-19X lip on the grip. Certain 19 mags will not fit in the 19X. A regular 19 will take all the 19 mags and the 19X mags.
Regular g19 mags are too short for the g19x because it has g17 length frame.
Gen 5 g17 mags will not fit the g19x because of the longer base plates. Earlier gen mags work.
G19 for g19 mags or g45 for g17 mags.
A solid group of firearms there. As for all pistols I've personally used or tried, My Top 5 are:
1. Walther PDP 9mm
2. FN 510 Tac 10mm
3. Canik SFX Rival. 9mm
4. IWI Jericho Enhanced 9mm
5. Sig Sauer P320 9mm
The 2011 would be a much better choice
The H&K, needs to go, and the 320 made the list with the recall? Should be the sig M11-A1, and a smith revolver.
Younger and less experienced shooters may overlook, or not even know about, the Gen 1-2-3 S&W semiautos such as Models 59/659/5906, 4006, 645/4506, etc. Again, extreme quality and reliability, infinite rebuildability, good availability of leather gear and quality magazines.
Everyone has a opinion on what the Best Five handguns.
Just like saying.
What's the BEST AND TOP FIVE Trucks made!!
Questions Opinions.
Bottom line.
What is your Budget and what Firearm is comfortable for You!
And what purpose are you buying for?
And Are you planning to go to the Shooting Ranch and Practice! Practice! Practice and get very Familiar with your baby.
And most of All!!
Go take a firearms Class. Know your State Gun Laws. And get your CCW card.
Just saying. Peace out!
Are you really talking about supply chains for a shtf pistol? Seriously!! I’ll stick with my Springfields
Sig 365 macro comp x is better than all of those then I would go with HK and CZ
Good video, But I do miss seeing larry
Good list MP, thanks for sharing
Drop the 320 from the list.
What is this shtf fantasy everyone has? Has it ever happened before? Why would you go for a pistol?
So you said the USP cause magazines are interchangeable with the Vp9. What about the VP9 then?
The Vp9 is solid too. He had to pick 5 and probably had to stick to things he currently had on hand. The VP is very popular in my community
The only thing I'd hate... is having to work on the sheesh, the VP9 has a lot of parts, but I'm still getting one. I have a P30 so already have a backup.
Browning hi power for the same reasons as 1911.
What about the Canik nine
You gotta have a couple of CZs on there. P07 and P10C come to mind.
I put a langdon tactical "trigger job in a bag" in my Beretta M9A1. I also added a ported barrel and Oh My Goodness....This thing shoots flat, fast, and accurately.
Your Glock description kinda describes a high point too. 😂😂.
USB 45 has steel magazines buddy...
USB 40 and 9 have polymer... USPC is steel for everything... For a prepper you figure you would know that...
So........P226/229 just doesn't exist?
Any 45 ACP. Not always the brand.
The Taurus GX4 TORO carry
G19X is perhaps the worst Glock double stack 9mm choice possible.
They are not compatible with normal gen 5 g17 mags!!!
G45 makes much more sense if you want that larger grip.
Really a normal g19 would be best so you could use the shorter g19 mag.
Except you can find previous gen mags very easily. And if absolutely necessary, you could take a dremel to the grip to make mags fit. But if we are talking true apocalyptic scenario and want to be able to scavenge as many mags as possible.....Glock 26
Hi point yeet cannon. Reliable and no one will try and steal it.
I don't care about printing people make that too much of a big deal. I'm tired of youtubers pushing the micro 9mm lol it's getting sick. If full size guns weren't meant to be concealed carried then no one would make iwb holsters for them. Point blank period. The m&p actually is up there with the realibilty of a glock it should of been on the list
Agreed bro!!
GLOCK, BABY!
FN 510! FTW!!!
Any glock 3 gen after market parts every where
Ya lost me at Kimber…. But agree with the M18, it’s replaced my G19x as an EDC
HK MK 23
The USP will still be firing long after the other 4 fail. BTW, USP 45 uses metal mags.
The USP is an okay gun, never impressed me with anything more than cz75 or p226. Even if the rest of the guns stop shooting after let's say 10k rounds, in a SHTF scenario, you would be lucky to have access to 500 or less.
A Kimber 1911?!? Dude, you might as well put a rock as #5…
Another deputy tan a Kimber 1911 and the armorer had to bring his full kit out to the range when she qualified cuz every time it would have a major malfunction
I'm one of those weirdos who thinks the Glock IS the best-looking gun on the list 🤷♂️
Canik is the best thing going
If you have the same weapon system so you can take the same mags as the said military that is in power at the time you do the math on that one that would be the preferred system that being said it doesn't really matter cuz you can just take a drop weapon and pick it up along with the other system etcetera does it really matter I mean you can sit here and speculate on what's the best thing here and what's the best thing their overall it's not going to last forever in a poop hit the fan situation anyway and you're going to end up switching systems out for something else
End of the world I’d be using a rifle more than pistol (don’t get me wrong I do love pistols). So I’d stick with my PDP until such time as battlefield pick up is necessary than I would go to Glock most likely since it’s the most likely to be the most numerous type of pistol I would encounter. If for some reason roaming the earth is something preying on humans that isn’t human, then I’ll carry whatever 10mm I can find lol.
Sig really they are not very drop safe from what I understand
Cz75 > sig
In the way this is framed... look no further than battlefield loot drops... In the meantime I'm rock'in a Taurus G3 with a Gmconn 1200 lumen light 🤷♂️
Yes ruger 101
replace the sig with a p07 and this list is perfection
This video is embarrassing, the m&p should be on the list
Glock for the same reasons. HK a close second. Beretta third.
3 out of 5. The 1911 and USP recommendations are dumb. The former doesn't support drop-in parts replacement. Any gun that requires fitting is out. The latter is only useful for LARPing. It has no support in the industry. You should replace these with well-represented sidearms like the S&W M&P series and the Sig P226. Both of those have modernized versions that take red dots and standard lights. The other recommendations are good.
Glock 19 100%
Opinions are like a..holes, everyone has one.