@@isitreallyyouuuuuu I don’t think most people are a “horrible person”. Especially mark. You can hear how genuine he is in his music. He’s broken and yes has done horrible things. Many broken people become the type to do horrible things.
@@Keepingyoung Yet many other broken people do not do horrible things to the extent that Mark has. He made a decision, perhaps influenced by his background, but a decision still.
You guys heard his second band Sun Kil Moon? It’s even better. The album “Ghosts of the Great Highway” is where I’d start as I think it’s his masterpiece, but first listen to “Carry Me Ohio” by Sun Kil Moon and tell me it isn’t amazing :). Just a suggestion.
So late to this party. The Vanilla Sky soundtrack introduced me to Red House and Mark. Such a beautiful piece of music and if you havent seen the movie Vanilla Sky or Open Your Eyes you're missin out.
I came across Red House Painters through a recommendation by Bobby Lee the comedian and I found it to be a very special sound ,very moody and moving. I'm from Brazil and I really like the music !!!
Salve de Caçapava! Brasileiro tá em todo lugar mesmo kkkkk. Vale a pena dar uma olhada no projeto solo do Mark Kozelek, Sun Kil Moon. Recomendo especificamente You Missed My Heart e Ben's My Friend.
@i2ottenBannana I can't tell you that, it happened a long time ago. What I can say is that Bobby Lee is also a musician, he plays the keyboard very well and he played in a band when he was younger.
The red house painters came back to Ohio for at least one show that I know of and in that show we got to hear mark sing grace cathedral park acapella. It was an unexpected treat and really awesome.
Wow, and I thought I was the only person on the planet who knew of Mark's genius before his friendship with Cameron Crowe thrust him into mediocre fame on Almost Famous. You can feel the pain in his lyrics, a pain that every adult American male has felt at some point on their journey to and throughout adulthood. The purest form of genius is he.
They were quite well known before Almost Famous. They were signed to 4AD and had been making records for like 10 years by that time. I like them okay but I don’t think Mark fully blossomed until Sun Kil Moon’s first album “Ghosts of the Great Highway”. Everything is better on it. His voice is much better, the music is far more dynamic, there’s no filler songs like their used to be all over the place, and even the mix is better. The early 90’s stuff sounds super dated now. “Songs for a Blue Guitar” has a few tracks that showed the melodic direction he was gonna go in, and Old Ramon had the dynamics sort of. But yeah “April” is also amazing. “Ghosts” and “April” are among 2 of my favorite albums ever but nobody else seems to see them like I do. Everyone likes the newer stuff where he rambles in stream of consciousness. Doesn’t do much for me.
I love old 90’s album covers and stuff. It reminds me of the South Park episode where Cartman starts a Christian Rock Band and he takes them to the beach and tells them to all stand looking off staring into random directions for the album cover. You know they told mark to look off the side.
I bought the red house painters cd roller coaster circa 1993 and still have it.....its magical to me and katy song is still one of the best songs ive ever heard.
Thank you for making this. I’m actually glad you made it before the allegations around Mark came out; whether they are legit or not (I feel they might be, but still) the music still means more to me with every passing day. I honestly don’t think there are many bands who have such a consistent quality of output, as you said. And it’s plainly obvious that even severely flawed human beings can make great music that nevertheless resonates and heals people the world over. When I’ve written my best songs, I’ve had the strong sense that the music was coming through, and not from, me. What I’m trying to say is the music is always divine, always as perfect as it sounds to your heart. Really, the sordid things that people get up to in day-to-day life could not be less related to the divine beauty that is great music. Thank you. RHP forever. Oh and I’m sure you know of them but check out Desertshore if you haven’t - it’s basically the RHP under a different name IMO. Mostly instrumental apart from the last two albums I think which have… who? Oh yes, this Kozelek person on vocals ;)
I know I’m late, but I love the three second or so cover at the beginning. Could someone tell me what it is? I’ve listened to it like ten times already.
It really seems as if Red House Painters didn't actually break up. They essentially just reformed under a different name to get out of the issues with the label. Many bands have done that over the years. Red House Painters was a great band. It's a shame they never got picked up by a major label. They had the talent, but never really had any major backing. They built their audience mostly by word of mouth. I was introduced to them after hearing "All Mixed Up" on the closing credits of an Alicia Silverstone movie that I can't remember the name of, and Kozalek himself through seeing him in Almost Famous. I looked up some of their other work, and loved nearly everything.
One thing that should be mentioned are their early demos. Especially the unrelated track 'headsore' it is an incredibly ambitious song and I recommend any fan to check it out. They were intensely devoted to the band's sound since the beginning.
NOTE: This video was completed before the allegations against Mark Kozelek came out. I know the timing is awkward, but just keep in mind it was purely coincidental and I know the band may now be soured for some.
Thanks for posting this. I have a couple of their albums but wasn't aware of the whole story. Are there different versions of the 'Retrospective' album? The one I have is 2 CDs, the first has a selection of tracks from DCH, RHP1, RHP2, SM and OB which is not 'all of their 4AD output' (as you say in the video). The 2nd disc is a collection of demos, outtakes & live. 101 Shock Me [SM].flac 102 Grace Cathedral Park [RHP1].flac 103 Katy Song [RHP1].flac 104 Summer Dress [OB].flac 105 New Jersey [RHP2].flac 106 Medicine Bottle [DCH].flac 107 Michael [DCH].flac 108 San Geronimo [OB].flac 109 Bubble [RHP2].flac 110 Mistress [RHP1].flac 111 Drop [OB.flac 112 Evil [RHP2].flac 113 Rollercoaster [RHP1].flac 201 Funhouse (1989 Demo).flac 202 Waterkill (1990 Demo).flac 203 Uncle Joe (1990 Demo).flac 204 Helicopter (1991 Demo).flac 205 Brown Eyes (1992 4 Track Demo).flac 206 Dragonflies (1992 Rollercoaster Outtake).flac 207 Japanese To English (Live In Paris 1993).flac 208 Shock Me (Live On KCRW Radio 1993).flac 209 Over My Head (1993 4 Track Demo).flac 210 Brockwell Park (1993 4 Track Demo).flac 211 Shadows (1994 Ocean Beach Outtake.flac 212 Mistress (Live On KCRW 1995).flac 213 Summer Dress (Live On KCRW 1995).flac 214 Instrumental (1995 Demo).flac
I think it was a mistake, mine is also 2 cd's however he mentions it being more than 4 hours of music wheras the 2 cd's only make about 2 hr 30 mins, a bit confused
Red House Painters died when *Gordon Mack left. I tried looking up his personal website again but couldn't find it. But back in the mid '10s, I remember coming across it and he did detail his time in RHP's stating that the band was increasingly becoming what he termed as, "the Mark Kozelek Band". Personally, I'm in agreement with this b/c after Ocean Beach, the latter RHPs releases are no longer constituted of complex song structures or carefully picked single-notes, nor slow-ish drumming. Mark Kozelek was obviously the 1 trying to always stand in front and assume creative control. It just isn't the same after Ocean Beach 😢
In the early days of RHPs live performances, Kozelek did not want to play guitar. Gordon Mack’s primary role in the band was to duplicate MK’s guitar parts for shows. Mack had essentially zero to contribute to the band’s sound. Though a competent player, he did not contribute anything to the songwriting process or to the direction of the band. He was not a Johnny Marr to Kozelek’s Morrissey, nor a Page/Plant, etc. Had Mack been a genuinely noteworthy guitarist/composer, he would likely have introduced ideas that would have become RHP songs. He has no songwriting credits. Slim Dunlap died a few days ago. He brought some good stuff to late Replacement’s , like Achin’ to Be. Mack never brought anything to RHP, no chords, no riffs, no ideas, nothing. Mack is a fraud, who has tried to pass himself off as an integral part of RHP. He never was.
hahahahaha - I can't believe this is the only comment on here relating to that. I'll still listen to his music if so, but the fact people just ignore it or have somehow managed to overlook it baffles me.
The part that sucks most about for me is how you can almost tell it's caused by his wish that was still young. He's probably so bitter at his age and it makes his advances towards those young women creepy. Listening and reading a lot of his lyrics of the past ten years really do bring up mental images of a man who would say something akin to "Man, I used to get so much pussy." (Which, by the way, is almost verbatim from one of his songs. I can't recall the name of that one.
He is a great guy, some people don’t get his humour. Saved my friend when she got stuck at airport when her flight was cancelled, paid for a ticket for her with another airline.
@@perrerapuertorosario5550 he's a twat. I've talked to him and witnessed him make moves on my girlfriend, whom I introduced to him as my "girlfriend". He's a real case for NOT meeting your heroes...
@@magicalternishere3682 post hardcore has an influence in vocals in what otherwise is highly influenced by early indie/progressive, sadcore/slow and arguably some folk too. As far as the lyricism goes, midwest emo and emo revival is very very influenced from 90’s altern/indie/sadcore and possibly grunge too.
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This channel is so good, finally someone is talking about slowcore
Mark is a musical genius, no doubt.
i agree, its a shame he is a horrible person
@@isitreallyyouuuuuu you're gay
@@isitreallyyouuuuuu I don’t think most people are a “horrible person”. Especially mark. You can hear how genuine he is in his music. He’s broken and yes has done horrible things. Many broken people become the type to do horrible things.
@@Keepingyoung Yet many other broken people do not do horrible things to the extent that Mark has. He made a decision, perhaps influenced by his background, but a decision still.
Songs for a Blue Guitar will forever be my favorite album. Revelation Big Sur is one of the greatest songs written.
Likewise. A perfect album from beginning to end
Make Like Paper is a masterpiece
I love this band. The lead singer's voice is so beautiful and smooth.
I adore the song medicine bottle from them.
You guys heard his second band Sun Kil Moon? It’s even better. The album “Ghosts of the Great Highway” is where I’d start as I think it’s his masterpiece, but first listen to “Carry Me Ohio” by Sun Kil Moon and tell me it isn’t amazing :). Just a suggestion.
Medical bottle is truly a piece of art it's my favorite song from them,
Medicine Bottle?
I agree, song grips me.
I love this vid ! I’m so happy more people like this band:) it has a special place in my heart
So late to this party. The Vanilla Sky soundtrack introduced me to Red House and Mark. Such a beautiful piece of music and if you havent seen the movie Vanilla Sky or Open Your Eyes you're missin out.
I'm so glad that I got to see them live. They will always be one of my favourite bands.
amazing. I love em. Thank you, fans like me were longing for this.
I came across Red House Painters through a recommendation by Bobby Lee the comedian and I found it to be a very special sound ,very moody and moving. I'm from Brazil and I really like the music !!!
Salve de Caçapava! Brasileiro tá em todo lugar mesmo kkkkk. Vale a pena dar uma olhada no projeto solo do Mark Kozelek, Sun Kil Moon. Recomendo especificamente You Missed My Heart e Ben's My Friend.
Olha só, outros brasileiros por aqui KKKK
Where does he mention them
@i2ottenBannana I can't tell you that, it happened a long time ago. What I can say is that Bobby Lee is also a musician, he plays the keyboard very well and he played in a band when he was younger.
I love slowcore! Thanks for making this video about this amazing band.
The red house painters came back to Ohio for at least one show that I know of and in that show we got to hear mark sing grace cathedral park acapella. It was an unexpected treat and really awesome.
Mark's "Ghost of the Great Highway" is one the greatest albums of my generation
Wow, and I thought I was the only person on the planet who knew of Mark's genius before his friendship with Cameron Crowe thrust him into mediocre fame on Almost Famous. You can feel the pain in his lyrics, a pain that every adult American male has felt at some point on their journey to and throughout adulthood. The purest form of genius is he.
They were quite well known before Almost Famous. They were signed to 4AD and had been making records for like 10 years by that time. I like them okay but I don’t think Mark fully blossomed until Sun Kil Moon’s first album “Ghosts of the Great Highway”. Everything is better on it. His voice is much better, the music is far more dynamic, there’s no filler songs like their used to be all over the place, and even the mix is better. The early 90’s stuff sounds super dated now. “Songs for a Blue Guitar” has a few tracks that showed the melodic direction he was gonna go in, and Old Ramon had the dynamics sort of. But yeah “April” is also amazing. “Ghosts” and “April” are among 2 of my favorite albums ever but nobody else seems to see them like I do. Everyone likes the newer stuff where he rambles in stream of consciousness. Doesn’t do much for me.
Mark made acoustic guitars safe when grunge ruled. Mark's covers are like no other.I adore Tiny Cities Made of Ashes.
Continuing to go down the niche rabbit hole of RHP it seems. Great video!
I love old 90’s album covers and stuff. It reminds me of the South Park episode where Cartman starts a Christian Rock Band and he takes them to the beach and tells them to all stand looking off staring into random directions for the album cover. You know they told mark to look off the side.
I bought the red house painters cd roller coaster circa 1993 and still have it.....its magical to me and katy song is still one of the best songs ive ever heard.
thank you for this amazing video!!!
Cool video man! Keep on the grind!
Bridge and Ocean Beach are such good albums!! Brockwell Park, Helicopter, Over my HEad
Thanks for making this. Informative
Thank you for making this. I’m actually glad you made it before the allegations around Mark came out; whether they are legit or not (I feel they might be, but still) the music still means more to me with every passing day. I honestly don’t think there are many bands who have such a consistent quality of output, as you said. And it’s plainly obvious that even severely flawed human beings can make great music that nevertheless resonates and heals people the world over. When I’ve written my best songs, I’ve had the strong sense that the music was coming through, and not from, me. What I’m trying to say is the music is always divine, always as perfect as it sounds to your heart. Really, the sordid things that people get up to in day-to-day life could not be less related to the divine beauty that is great music. Thank you. RHP forever. Oh and I’m sure you know of them but check out Desertshore if you haven’t - it’s basically the RHP under a different name IMO. Mostly instrumental apart from the last two albums I think which have… who? Oh yes, this Kozelek person on vocals ;)
What happened?
@@Kvvz_ Some negative allegations of a sexual nature
@@anthonyf596 ahh those are usually not very good
no WAY this is so good
Great overview of a band I always liked but never knew much of.
thank god for this channel
duster, pavement, Codeine, Low, Idaho
Mark Kozelek is a legend
Nothing makes me happier than seeing Northeast ohio fields passing by the window of a car
Summer Dress is my fav Red House Painter song.
I know I’m late, but I love the three second or so cover at the beginning. Could someone tell me what it is? I’ve listened to it like ten times already.
It's one of my songs! Search up "My Mind is a Race Car" on RUclips and it should come up
Will you cover American Analog Set?
It really seems as if Red House Painters didn't actually break up. They essentially just reformed under a different name to get out of the issues with the label. Many bands have done that over the years. Red House Painters was a great band. It's a shame they never got picked up by a major label. They had the talent, but never really had any major backing. They built their audience mostly by word of mouth. I was introduced to them after hearing "All Mixed Up" on the closing credits of an Alicia Silverstone movie that I can't remember the name of, and Kozalek himself through seeing him in Almost Famous. I looked up some of their other work, and loved nearly everything.
One thing that should be mentioned are their early demos. Especially the unrelated track 'headsore' it is an incredibly ambitious song and I recommend any fan to check it out. They were intensely devoted to the band's sound since the beginning.
I think you pronounce Old Ramon wrong
NOTE: This video was completed before the allegations against Mark Kozelek came out. I know the timing is awkward, but just keep in mind it was purely coincidental and I know the band may now be soured for some.
How real are the allegations?
They sound complete bullshit so it don't bother me. Too often people lie to make money from celebs sadly.
Pitchforks been out for Mark since he told their writers to fuck off
@@robertjohnboydiv fuck pitchfork
@@sourcetorhujitzunin6639 I absolutely believe them.
thanks for this
Its crazy to me how few people know about this band. Marks songwriting is fresh in a oddly familar way..hard to describe.
Thank you Excess Baggage All mixed Up 🔥 🔥 🔥
Thanks for posting this. I have a couple of their albums but wasn't aware of the whole story.
Are there different versions of the 'Retrospective' album? The one I have is 2 CDs, the first has a selection of tracks from DCH, RHP1, RHP2, SM and OB which is not 'all of their 4AD output' (as you say in the video). The 2nd disc is a collection of demos, outtakes & live.
101 Shock Me [SM].flac
102 Grace Cathedral Park [RHP1].flac
103 Katy Song [RHP1].flac
104 Summer Dress [OB].flac
105 New Jersey [RHP2].flac
106 Medicine Bottle [DCH].flac
107 Michael [DCH].flac
108 San Geronimo [OB].flac
109 Bubble [RHP2].flac
110 Mistress [RHP1].flac
111 Drop [OB.flac
112 Evil [RHP2].flac
113 Rollercoaster [RHP1].flac
201 Funhouse (1989 Demo).flac
202 Waterkill (1990 Demo).flac
203 Uncle Joe (1990 Demo).flac
204 Helicopter (1991 Demo).flac
205 Brown Eyes (1992 4 Track Demo).flac
206 Dragonflies (1992 Rollercoaster Outtake).flac
207 Japanese To English (Live In Paris 1993).flac
208 Shock Me (Live On KCRW Radio 1993).flac
209 Over My Head (1993 4 Track Demo).flac
210 Brockwell Park (1993 4 Track Demo).flac
211 Shadows (1994 Ocean Beach Outtake.flac
212 Mistress (Live On KCRW 1995).flac
213 Summer Dress (Live On KCRW 1995).flac
214 Instrumental (1995 Demo).flac
I think it was a mistake, mine is also 2 cd's however he mentions it being more than 4 hours of music wheras the 2 cd's only make about 2 hr 30 mins, a bit confused
Red House Painters died when *Gordon Mack left. I tried looking up his personal website again but couldn't find it. But back in the mid '10s, I remember coming across it and he did detail his time in RHP's stating that the band was increasingly becoming what he termed as, "the Mark Kozelek Band". Personally, I'm in agreement with this b/c after Ocean Beach, the latter RHPs releases are no longer constituted of complex song structures or carefully picked single-notes, nor slow-ish drumming. Mark Kozelek was obviously the 1 trying to always stand in front and assume creative control. It just isn't the same after Ocean Beach 😢
In the early days of RHPs live performances, Kozelek did not want to play guitar. Gordon Mack’s primary role in the band was to duplicate MK’s guitar parts for shows. Mack had essentially zero to contribute to the band’s sound. Though a competent player, he did not contribute anything to the songwriting process or to the direction of the band. He was not a Johnny Marr to Kozelek’s Morrissey, nor a Page/Plant, etc. Had Mack been a genuinely noteworthy guitarist/composer, he would likely have introduced ideas that would have become RHP songs. He has no songwriting credits.
Slim Dunlap died a few days ago. He brought some good stuff to late Replacement’s , like Achin’ to Be. Mack never brought anything to RHP, no chords, no riffs, no ideas, nothing.
Mack is a fraud, who has tried to pass himself off as an integral part of RHP. He never was.
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain (irl)
which version of Cruiser is that in the first part of the video?
Old Ramon is my favourite album ever
If you need to relax just put this band on shuffle.
Wasn't RHP basically just Sun Kil Moon under a different name?
many of my favorite guitar tunings are from rhp songs
Great and underrated band❤
whats the song used in the background of this video?
apparently it's "Cruiser" in a live performance
@@anaistlv9708 yea I found out it was cruiser but this song is different thank you
whats the song playing in the begining?
Can anyone recommend bands similar
Ryan Schirripa Ohia, and Sun Kill Moon,
Low, Pedro the Lion, Bedhead, Duster
Marky Mark and the Rapey Bunch.
Idaho
Discouraged ones by Katatonia. Its a little heavier, but still very melancholy, brooding rock sound. They are inspired by red house painters
My favorite band for awhile
What is the songs in the intro?
It’s actually one of my songs! Called “My Mind Is a Race Car”
@@TheMusicNarrative sweet man nice song what about the one in the intro with mark singing?
@@elliottw875 Thanks man! The other song by RHP is a live version of “Cruiser”
@@TheMusicNarrative dude can i listen anywhere?? if not you should post it i keep running back the beginning
@@johnmulligan6430 Here’s the link! ruclips.net/video/D_WCph8JGfY/видео.html
sorry i’m late but what’s the song you used in the second half of the video?
They had some good songs but his first great album wasn’t until “ghosts of the great Highway” and then he repeated that with “April”
I think it is pronounces Co-Zay-Leck.
Mark Kozelek is most likely guilty.
hahahahaha - I can't believe this is the only comment on here relating to that. I'll still listen to his music if so, but the fact people just ignore it or have somehow managed to overlook it baffles me.
The part that sucks most about for me is how you can almost tell it's caused by his wish that was still young. He's probably so bitter at his age and it makes his advances towards those young women creepy.
Listening and reading a lot of his lyrics of the past ten years really do bring up mental images of a man who would say something akin to "Man, I used to get so much pussy."
(Which, by the way, is almost verbatim from one of his songs. I can't recall the name of that one.
@@norlanderduwallis9074 you’re thinking of Sunshine in Chicago
Have You Forgotten acoustic is their best track.
Say what you want about this man but let me tell you he ain't no ian Watkins 💯🎯🥱
Mark is such an awful person. His music is not awful....
Nah he’s really nice actually 👍
He is a great guy, some people don’t get his humour. Saved my friend when she got stuck at airport when her flight was cancelled, paid for a ticket for her with another airline.
@@perrerapuertorosario5550 he's a twat. I've talked to him and witnessed him make moves on my girlfriend, whom I introduced to him as my "girlfriend". He's a real case for NOT meeting your heroes...
@@dunlaoghaire I love the guy, if he tried it on with my wife I would see funny side. Its a compliment 💕
@@perrerapuertorosario5550 are you an actual Halfwit or just pretending?
the godfathers of midwewst emo.
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Uhm, wrong. Emo branched off of punk rock. Slowcore has little to nothing to do with punk...so they're unrelated genres
@@magicalternishere3682 post hardcore has an influence in vocals in what otherwise is highly influenced by early indie/progressive, sadcore/slow and arguably some folk too. As far as the lyricism goes, midwest emo and emo revival is very very influenced from 90’s altern/indie/sadcore and possibly grunge too.
@@Hardstylers4Life661 you will have nightmares tonight
@@thrax4939 i’ve had nightmares for 34 years in a row its nothing new
Too bad Mark is such an awful person
It's more miserable to find out that an artist is a deplorable individual than finding out an artist has died.
Glad, you guys are saints...Pharisees thow stones. Thanks for virtue signaling. Cheers.
You’re awful Murray
What'd he do
@Naꜰɪsa Bᴀʜ accused of abusing multiple women
You should definitely read @rapthoughtworld's review of RHP I. It's quite magnificent.
What’s the song playing in the background?
I was wondering the same thing
@@cominginsecond the one in the first half is Cruiser from Old Ramon
@@cominginsecond second half is Michael from Down Colorful Hill
@@Camothor10 Thank you!
@@cominginsecond no problem ☮️