Casting the X-Men in the Marvel Cinematic Universe - The Next Generation

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  • Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2024

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  • @mr.moviemafia
    @mr.moviemafia 2 года назад +1529

    Hearing Nando recite Psylocke’s comic book history felt like running a marathon

    • @RedHandedBandit11
      @RedHandedBandit11 2 года назад +104

      That explanation also served as an example of why I don't read comics.

    • @arklestudios
      @arklestudios 2 года назад +93

      I honestly expected him to play the Spaceballs "You got all that?" clip at the end of that recitation.

    • @bannedinallston
      @bannedinallston 2 года назад +68

      Even just parsing out the script to figure out how he recited all the stuff in front of the right drawings is giving me anxiety

    • @yaboyisaac354
      @yaboyisaac354 2 года назад +40

      my brain just went blank on that part

    • @hollandscottthomas
      @hollandscottthomas 2 года назад +25

      It's like a Metal Gear plot recap!

  • @zombielizard218
    @zombielizard218 2 года назад +1059

    I do like how someone describing comics can just casually say "her mother got so angry she opened a portal to a dream dimension and decided to stay there" and then just move on.

    • @cryofpaine
      @cryofpaine 2 года назад +62

      The comic equivalent of "he went out for milk".

    • @adoniscreed4031
      @adoniscreed4031 2 года назад +24

      Honestly... sometimes American comics can be way weirder than any anime out there 🤣

    • @thealishow6517
      @thealishow6517 2 года назад +3

      True

    • @thealishow6517
      @thealishow6517 2 года назад +14

      And”she kissed her crush he went in a coma” so casually.

    • @PeterParker-ff7ub
      @PeterParker-ff7ub Год назад +1

      comics are interesting

  • @mad_the_monk
    @mad_the_monk 2 года назад +477

    Maude Apatow is so unbelievably perfect for the role of Kitty Pryde, to the point I predicted you’d pick her as soon as I saw the title for this video

    • @JesusFlores-rw8ry
      @JesusFlores-rw8ry 2 года назад +22

      She needs to be Kitty I don’t care that her dad is Judd Apatow it fits

    • @abagegael
      @abagegael 2 года назад +5

      vou fzr fancast no capcut

    • @ChildishGambeaner
      @ChildishGambeaner 2 года назад +3

      @@JesusFlores-rw8ry what would her dad have to do with it?

    • @turnthepage8980
      @turnthepage8980 2 года назад +14

      @@ChildishGambeaner nepotism i guess

    • @fransiscoguzman431
      @fransiscoguzman431 2 года назад +3

      @@JesusFlores-rw8ry cool but do u know peter parker/ kitty pryde dated in ulitmate marvel comics

  • @lo_d_rocket-1212
    @lo_d_rocket-1212 2 года назад +282

    While I do like the actors you've got for bishop, it'd be great if he was played by an actual indigenous australian, two actors I know who could do it is Aaron Pederson (although he's not super tall or built he can certainly play the cop role well and is still reasonably built) or Jimi Bani (recently played Koiki Eddie Mabo and is definitely built for the part)

    • @azimzain9064
      @azimzain9064 2 года назад +27

      Big agree. As someone who only really read X-men comics Messiah Complex onwards, I didn't even realize he was indigenous Australian because of how he's been portrayed in the 90s cartoon/movie. Would be huge to get an indigenous actor in. Aaron Fa'aoso?

    • @lo_d_rocket-1212
      @lo_d_rocket-1212 2 года назад +14

      @@azimzain9064 Yeah I had no idea myself until this video, he's been portrayed as more of african-american than indigenous australian. I haven't seen any of Aaron Fa'aoso's stuff but he certainly looks the part.
      Edit: spelling

    • @o-wolf
      @o-wolf 3 месяца назад +1

      Suggesting a half African half Aborigine character be played by a guy who is more white than he is aborigine to a now seemingly very racist or atleast racially dismissive youtuber who spent the entire runtime of Bishops character breakdown crapping on a character with over 30 yrs of history is insane
      As for jimi even though he isn't half African he'dve been perfect.. THIRTY years ago, not now

  • @osakibilaye-benibo9100
    @osakibilaye-benibo9100 2 года назад +622

    All great casting choices, but there's a big issue with the Bishop casting. Bishop isn't just an Australian dude, he's specifically Indigenous Australian/First Australian. He's Black, but not of African descent.
    Trevante is a fantastic actor but casting him is as inappropriate as casting a non-Jewish actor for Kate Pryde. Especially since First Australian actors are frequently marginalized and ignored within and out of Australia.
    I'd suggest a First Australian actor like Baykali Ganambarr. He has the age, experience, and build you're looking for, without the unfortunate "Black people are interchangeable" implications.

    • @kadegetslaid634
      @kadegetslaid634 2 года назад +38

      Agreed man

    • @thechroniclesofthesuperhob167
      @thechroniclesofthesuperhob167 2 года назад +32

      well said.

    • @rileyklotz9573
      @rileyklotz9573 2 года назад +49

      as an australian very well said

    • @johdominic
      @johdominic 2 года назад +34

      Personally I’d love to see someone like Rob Collins or Mark Coles Smith, but otherwise I’m with you. Citing Eka Darville being African-Australian as making him qualified isn’t the same as casting an actual First Nations actor

    • @drunicorn1463
      @drunicorn1463 2 года назад +3

      100%

  • @EpicChikenChronicles
    @EpicChikenChronicles 2 года назад +273

    I had no idea Bishop was Indigenous Australian. I think it would be some really interesting representation to get an indigenous actor in the MCU.

    • @MistuhJaysGaming
      @MistuhJaysGaming 9 месяцев назад +20

      Yeah as an indigenous Australian myself It was kinda disheartening to hear Nando just pass off indigenous Australians as "a black dude" indigenous Australians aren't black and for Nando to care so much about other nationalities and religions and then to throw that out kinda bothered me.

    • @markchapman6800
      @markchapman6800 9 месяцев назад +8

      @@MistuhJaysGamingOf course, Bishop has never that I'm aware of been *drawn* as Indigenous Australian, so I was surprised too. It would be cool to have that sort of representation, especially for people who aren't aware of the difference.

    • @StewartFletcher
      @StewartFletcher 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@MistuhJaysGaming Luckily, it's just acting, not representation. Caring THAT much about the background of someone pretending to be another person is pretty ridiculous

    • @23heltar
      @23heltar 4 месяца назад +1

      @@MistuhJaysGamingbecause he is just black in the comics nothing about him in the comics screams indigenous So why can’t the movie be the same

    • @MistuhJaysGaming
      @MistuhJaysGaming 4 месяца назад +6

      @@23heltar it's not so much about casting in an actual movie as it is Nando's attitude towards every other culture and race and then to be so dismissive of Indigenous Australians as just another black guy

  • @kiwirabbit8874
    @kiwirabbit8874 3 месяца назад +13

    16:26 what do you think about Channing Tatum as a Gambit now after seeing Deadpool & Wolverine?

  • @sirspoonkm.
    @sirspoonkm. 3 месяца назад +11

    I love how ONE writer messing up a story due to not having read and issue forces other writers to have to completely make up a whole new story

  • @MalissinA
    @MalissinA 2 года назад +100

    One of my favorite things about Jubilee was always that she lost her powers in the No More Mutants/Decimation arc, only to continue being a superhero by using technology as Wondra. It showed a side of her that would want to be a hero, even if not for her mutant power being forced on her.

  • @voltinator
    @voltinator 2 года назад +480

    It'd be okay to have an older Rogue and Gambit. They could be like those 30 year old camp counselors who the kids know are jumping each other's bones when out of sight.

    • @johnynoway9127
      @johnynoway9127 2 года назад +11

      didnt know rogue had a bone...

    • @marlonclark1896
      @marlonclark1896 2 года назад +4

      hehehehehe yeah i agree

    • @thatguywhosayshi7021
      @thatguywhosayshi7021 2 года назад +5

      Weird analogy but ok

    • @PeterParker-ff7ub
      @PeterParker-ff7ub Год назад +1

      ugh

    • @FC26693
      @FC26693 Год назад +3

      Umm… are they even 30 in the comics yet? Rogue isn’t, she’s currently 28/9 and gambits age… I’m not even sure who’s older, rogue or gambit.

  • @mr.moviemafia
    @mr.moviemafia 2 года назад +670

    This may be the group of X-Men that I REALLY hope the MCU gets right. The previous ones were handled relatively well and kept pretty accurate in the Fox series, but THESE characters were either heavily changed or severely underutilized.

    • @lightknight6749
      @lightknight6749 2 года назад +49

      I disagree, even the previous ones were pretty inaccurate aside from Professor X and Wolverine. I'd even argue that it was basically the whole franchise of Fox x men was just the Wolverine movies. Almost everyone else was kicked to the backround. I mean they barely used Cyclops, the poster boy of the x-men.

    • @TheTrekkie42
      @TheTrekkie42 2 года назад +15

      @@lightknight6749 well Colossus was pretty great in the Deadpool films as was Deadpool himself.

    • @lightknight6749
      @lightknight6749 2 года назад +12

      @@TheTrekkie42 Very true,Domino was great as well

    • @SymbiSpidey
      @SymbiSpidey 2 года назад +13

      @@lightknight6749 I felt like the casting decisions were decent for the most part (besides Rogue and Storm), but yeah they dropped the ball on their characterization.

    • @lightknight6749
      @lightknight6749 2 года назад +2

      @@SymbiSpidey agreed

  • @harmonycheese2150
    @harmonycheese2150 2 года назад +72

    dang, its 4am, im studying, and then this comes out

    • @JP-se5kf
      @JP-se5kf 2 года назад

      Came out at 3:30 pm where I live

  • @Wico90YT
    @Wico90YT 2 года назад +156

    Only one I'd change is Psylocke. Sonoya Mizuno would be perfect. She's British Japanese and was fantastic in Devs
    Captain Carter being a Captain Britain variant in the Captain Corps would be great too. Even throw in Union Jack and CB1 in there. So you could have Brians, Peggys, Betsys and James' all as CBs.

    • @bennett4789
      @bennett4789 2 года назад +2

      sonoya mizuno!!! yes!!!!

    • @Melkac
      @Melkac 2 года назад +7

      But Psylocke is not British Japanese, she’s british OR japanese, depending on which Psylocke you’re referring to.
      I agree that they will probably simplify their history, make Betsy and Brian british-asian, but if we’re following Nando’s idea to cast Kwannon and Betsy as different people, making Kwannon british-japanese would be pretty whitewashey.

    • @SirStrangefolk
      @SirStrangefolk 2 года назад +1

      @@Melkac Even if you really wanted someone like Henry Cavill as Brian, couldn't you just make them be half-siblings instead of twins? How important is it to have them as twins? I'd say do something like Cavill and Mizuno as the Braddocks and then potentially later cast a fully Japanese woman as Kwannon as a sort of legacy Psylocke character after Mizuno would either leave the MCU or become Captain Britain. With how much Betsy's public perception owes to the katana wielding Japanese body look I'm not fully comfortable with having a fully white Betsy.

    • @bennett4789
      @bennett4789 2 года назад +9

      @@Melkac honestly i could see the mcu ditching psylocke's convoluted history and basically making her into a new character who is british and japanese. that would probably mean she is no longer captain britain's twin but i would honestly prefer that to the absolute shitstorm that is her comic backstory. i dont think mainstream audiences would dig the whole asian body swap/two characters thing, its pretty cringe

  • @asellape9270
    @asellape9270 2 года назад +159

    I really hope they do Gambit well. He can be brokenly powerful if written properly, but his personality and backstory are also interesting.
    I would love to see New Sun Gambit, but I doubt we'd see that in the MCU.

    • @malepatternbaldness.
      @malepatternbaldness. 2 года назад +20

      They better keep him and Rogue together too, they might just be my favorite couple

    • @crablord7934
      @crablord7934 2 года назад +3

      New Sun Gambit is very uh, Dr Manhattan-ish

    • @alexandrefrauches132
      @alexandrefrauches132 2 года назад +7

      Same. I think he could be introduce in the second film, adapting Mutant Massacre, with Mr Sinister and the Marauders as the villains. Gambit could start as part of the group and is trick by the villain to lead them to the Morlock hideout. However, after meeting the X-men and Rogue, he realize his mistakes and joins the heroes, with Rogue falling in love with him because they are both villain trying to redeem themselves from their past (obs: I think MCU rogue should have the whole journey from villain to hero).

    • @santiagogarza8121
      @santiagogarza8121 2 года назад +5

      He's always been my favorite X-man, I reaaally hope they do

    • @marlonclark1896
      @marlonclark1896 2 года назад +1

      @@malepatternbaldness. yeah they're one of my favorite marvel couples

  • @trehubb6144
    @trehubb6144 2 года назад +70

    Kitty and Rogue is another group of those that have to be done correctly when appearing in the MCU.. They left alot to be desired in the fox films. Both of them are wildly competent and great substitute leaders when given the chance..

    • @biguy617
      @biguy617 2 года назад +3

      Thomasin Mackenzie is my pick for Kitty

    • @peggyclasse3697
      @peggyclasse3697 2 года назад

      @@biguy617 Great choice

  • @fredskull1618
    @fredskull1618 2 года назад +225

    “Ah yes. It’s a lot like Star Trek: The Next Generation. In many ways, it’s superior, but will never be as recognized as the original.”

  • @morcatna4767
    @morcatna4767 2 года назад +68

    If they make Psylocke specifically Japanese (as in cast a Japanese actress) I would be so happy because we haven’t gotten any Japanese representation other than the legendary…. Japanese Spiderman 😆
    (Shang Chi is Chinese Descent, Gilgamesh actor is Korean)
    If they don’t I would be pretty disappointed…

    • @MrThemovie321
      @MrThemovie321 2 года назад +4

      That would be fking awesome

    • @goat-min1414
      @goat-min1414 2 года назад +9

      Her story is confusing so just making her Japanese but British is the best way to go instead of a white woman changing bodies.

  • @mr.moviemafia
    @mr.moviemafia 2 года назад +109

    Haley Lu Richardson as Rogue would 1000% get me on board, I absolutely adore her in Five Feet Apart and her real-life personality seems perfect for Rogue! I can’t believe I didn’t think of her before now

  • @Ultramagnetic808
    @Ultramagnetic808 2 года назад +21

    I like how Rogue's love interest and soul mate is an ACTUAL rogue, lol. Somebody at Marvel has a very cheeky sense of humor.

  • @nicerock5506
    @nicerock5506 2 года назад +207

    i think not casting bishop as an indigenous australian is a huge missed opportunity for both diversity, and to further stand out as a member of the cast. it’s too bad that most comic writers and artists seem to ignore a very important part of his heritage

    • @jugsteve9741
      @jugsteve9741 Год назад +11

      Came here to say this. Has to be played by an Australian First Nations actor.

    • @StewartFletcher
      @StewartFletcher 6 месяцев назад

      Isn't Bishop from like hundreds of years in the future from an alternate timeline?

    • @nicerock5506
      @nicerock5506 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@StewartFletcher and?

    • @TheBoysWW
      @TheBoysWW 3 месяца назад

      Uli Latukefu would be perfect

  • @savagezerox
    @savagezerox 2 года назад +183

    Jimi Bani is an indigenous Australian actor who could be Bishop, as are Aaron Fa'aoso, Mark Coles Smith
    , and Thibul Nettle
    . Its absolutely hypocritical how you went out of your way to find an actress you like for Kitty but rejected simply because she wasn't Ashkenazi Jewish, but you had no issue doing the same with Bishop who you yourself described as Aboriginal Australian.

    • @910Jaro
      @910Jaro 2 года назад +12

      yeah he tends to do that a lot ive noticed 😂

    • @TheFerrett3
      @TheFerrett3 2 года назад +2

      Agreed

    • @liamlennon3316
      @liamlennon3316 Год назад +10

      Being indigenous Australian was a retcon to bishop and isn't important to bishop's character like kitty being jewish. He was intended to just be a black future American

  • @cindyloohoo1063
    @cindyloohoo1063 2 года назад +89

    I like your suggestions, however I feel obligated to say that Bishop should be played by an Indigenous Australian, especially as they are so underrepresented in media. ATSI people are indigenous to Australia and casting Bishop as with someone of African descent just feels disrespectful. Baykali Ganambarr, Sean Mununggurr or even Rob Collins could be better picks.

    • @ThunderKat2012
      @ThunderKat2012 2 года назад +1

      To be fair…his background is muddy…he was supposed to be Filipino…I’m not against bishop being aboriginee …however your being rude by just demanding it’s disrespectful not to make him aboriginee when his creator wanted him to be Filipino…

    • @abenyu3220
      @abenyu3220 2 года назад +6

      @@ThunderKat2012 the aeta are indigenous people of the Philippines that have ancestral ties to australian aboriginals. although they are extremely unrepresented in filipino media as the mainstream favors mixed/light-skinned filipinos rather than those with indigenous features. casting an aboriginal australian would at least be closer to his character than casting an african american. unless they get out of their way to find an aeta actor that would fit his role to which i don't know any. i blame the philippine showbiz industry for this

    • @iamqueenkk
      @iamqueenkk 2 года назад +7

      @@ThunderKat2012 Indigenous, First Nations or Aboriginal are all correct. Aborigine has not great colonial history and is not appropriate to use anymore.

  • @silverscreamer
    @silverscreamer 2 месяца назад +14

    16:11 bet youre feeling real silly now

    • @MrsRimavelle
      @MrsRimavelle 2 месяца назад +2

      To me his appearance just proved Nando was right lol

  • @TheTrekkie42
    @TheTrekkie42 2 года назад +89

    When you started listing the requirements for Gambit, Austin Butler immediately jumped in my head.
    I’m glad he was a runner up for you, but he’s my winner.

    • @pamellalopes5708
      @pamellalopes5708 2 года назад +1

      @@lizziehwevans I also think there may be more options but when you give Elvis the movie you start to understand that he would be an AMAZING Gambit .

  • @dsorpqxh
    @dsorpqxh 2 года назад +24

    I would love if The Marvels post credit scene is Rogue kissing her boyfriend and killing him, would be a perfect tease af the end of a captain marvel movie

  • @fishflop_
    @fishflop_ 2 года назад +17

    The casting part of these videos is always great, but I'm also really appreciating the concise breakdown of each character's history/backstory. I never read the comics, so it's nice to get some extra info/clarity on characters that I experienced mostly through video games, tv shows, movies, etc.

  • @thatssojunior3970
    @thatssojunior3970 2 года назад +60

    Bishop is Indigenous Australian (one of the oldest living cultures in the world), these peoples are already very underrepresented I think it would be disrespectful to not give an indigenous actor a shot at the role.

    • @Vapouriste
      @Vapouriste 2 года назад +1

      the oldest living culture in the world ? wut

    • @Katkayz
      @Katkayz 2 года назад

      Not older than bushmen( the Saan people )

    • @thatssojunior3970
      @thatssojunior3970 2 года назад +4

      @@Katkayz perhaps not but honestly thats besides the point

  • @DHMyers1994
    @DHMyers1994 2 года назад +29

    I’d love to see another (maybe brief) episode of this that’s just a bunch of oddball X-men you’d love to see included at some point, even just as background characters. X-men like Mercury, glob Herman, Mercury, Maggot, or mercury. Personally I’d love to see Mercury, she’s got fun powers.

    • @kevinrohman1464
      @kevinrohman1464 2 года назад

      Not sure if you're on Nebula, but there he's done the Mojoverse, Wolverine's clones and Excalibur. When he does his X-Factor video, he'll probably do another Nebula exclusive with even more fringe characters

  • @pontush.1557
    @pontush.1557 2 года назад +26

    Imagine if marvel has these detailed videos describing why they make the choices they make.

  • @RicardoAlmeidatm
    @RicardoAlmeidatm 3 месяца назад +8

    Fun fact: Rogue's name in portuguese is "Vampira', meaning "female vampire" or "vampiress" and I always thought it fit better than Rogue. Any x-man could be called "rogue". Blue devil infiltrator? Rogue. Clawed wild man assassin? Rogue. Psychic superbeing that is constantly turning into a villain when possesed by a space-bird? Rogue. But "Vampiress" is something only she can be.

  • @JCallowphotography
    @JCallowphotography 2 года назад +98

    Disappointed that the actors listed for Bishop were all non Aboriginal actors, it would great to see that representation on the big screen, as First Nations Australians are not interchangeable with African American or someone like Eka Darville, who is Australian but with Jamaican heritage not Australian. Would personally recommend Mark Coles Smith as my pick

  • @mr.moviemafia
    @mr.moviemafia 2 года назад +95

    Anna Paquin’s Rogue is more similar to her portrayal in “X-Men: Evolution”, where she was a teenage goth girl (which came out right before the 2000 film). Both are valid, but I feel like the MCU’s should be more like the 90’s series.
    Edit: I love Evolution btw, it’s probably my personal favorite of the X-Men animated portrayals, but the 90’s version has some of the most definitive versions of many of the characters. I hope the MCU combines the best aspects of both!

    • @malepatternbaldness.
      @malepatternbaldness. 2 года назад +9

      Yeah. The 90's series was pretty goofy overall (not that it's a bad thing) but the one part that I always liked about it was Rogue and Gambit.

    • @raphaeldelaghetto85
      @raphaeldelaghetto85 2 года назад +12

      If I’m not mistaken, the movie came out in the summer of 2000 and the show debuted that fall. I’m guessing they intentionally patterned the animated version after the live action portrayal.

    • @brewmaster2912
      @brewmaster2912 2 года назад +12

      I’d rather have the MCU X-Men be inspired by Evolution.

    • @alexandrefrauches132
      @alexandrefrauches132 2 года назад +12

      Not quite. Despite not having Carol powers, Evolution Rogue was still confident, she was sarcastic and had other arcs besides her inability to touch people, including her journey from member of the brotherhood to join x-men and dealing with the revelation that Mystique was her adoptive mother.

    • @maxtube444
      @maxtube444 2 года назад +1

      I agree

  • @abrahamthompson2968
    @abrahamthompson2968 2 месяца назад +10

    Coming back here to say youknowhowlongivebeenwaitingfordis? Wooimabouttomakeanameformyself!

  • @stevehoose
    @stevehoose 2 года назад +3

    Daisy Edgar-Jones is a slam dunk for Rogue. She hit all of these beats perfectly on Under the Banner of Heaven, and I assume she has a southern accent in Where the Crawdads Sing. Plus she seems to be on the cusp of superstardom, just like JLaw in First Class.

  • @nanothestrange
    @nanothestrange 2 года назад +11

    john boyega should be spyke, storm's nephew. he's too likeable and pure at heart for bishop

  • @jorellbringas
    @jorellbringas 2 года назад +39

    After watching Moon Knight, I'm convinced that the late Gaspard Ulliel would have been a perfect Gambit. The charisma, looks, and physicality was on point.

  • @pavarottiaardvark3431
    @pavarottiaardvark3431 2 года назад +76

    I think it's reasonable to expand Kwannon casting to 'countries that were colonised by Japan in the periods that Marvel's ninja plots cover'. This gives us a somewhat wider range: Japan, Korea, Taiwan (Hoklo, Formosan, Hakka) and Karafuto/Sakhalin (Ainu) - while still staying true to the character's roots.

  • @elephantpowerproductions
    @elephantpowerproductions 2 года назад +22

    50:12 If I may add to this, Eka Darville also played a Red Ranger named Scott Truman in Power Rangers RPM, which is a series set in a dystopia dimension where an evil robot virus has taken over and nearly killed off humanity
    Just replace Venjix with Sentinels and add some time travel to the story, you got a potential Bishop plot

    • @danielwalker8133
      @danielwalker8133 2 года назад +1

      Even Scott’s personality sort of fits

    • @haydenfisher1387
      @haydenfisher1387 2 года назад +1

      Actually his character was Scott Truman but honestly yeah he could fit lol

    • @elephantpowerproductions
      @elephantpowerproductions 2 года назад

      @@haydenfisher1387 Thank you for the correction

  • @noellesears10
    @noellesears10 2 года назад +12

    as someone who was introduced to most of the marvel cast via the super hero squad mmo game, gambit was my favorite based on design and he had a mini game i remember liking.

  • @buttonsfan
    @buttonsfan 2 года назад +11

    Honestly the face shot of the two runners up for Gambit I look at them and I see Gambit. Although I know or barely know any of the actors you said for Gambit besides Channing Tatum, who I agree isn’t a great pick for Gambit.

  • @sand4273
    @sand4273 2 года назад +14

    Kitty Pryde is my favorite X-Men character, and probably my favorite character in all of Marvel Comics. She should really have a big role in the MCU!

  • @mdrglxix3699
    @mdrglxix3699 2 года назад +22

    Ana Paquin played a better Rogue on True Blood than she ever did on X Men

    • @rosalie.e.morgan
      @rosalie.e.morgan 2 года назад +3

      She had some moments in that show where I totally agree

  • @WhydTheyChangeOurNames
    @WhydTheyChangeOurNames 2 года назад +33

    Obviously nowhere near finished with this video yet but these are legitimately my favorite videos on the entirety of RUclips right now. The amount of time, effort, and thought put into each one is *chef's kiss*
    Although Taron Egerton should be Wolverine

    • @biguy617
      @biguy617 2 года назад

      Only if he can do the accent right. If he can hide his British accent. I am all for it.

    • @WhydTheyChangeOurNames
      @WhydTheyChangeOurNames 2 года назад +1

      @@biguy617 I mean most British actors can do an American accent. It's not like Wolverine has a specific accent to him as he has traveled all over the globe in his life.

  • @mercwithayoutube
    @mercwithayoutube 4 месяца назад +18

    Guess he was wrong on Tatum gambit lol

    • @Sironion216
      @Sironion216 3 месяца назад +5

      Idk, he was alright. There are definitely actors more suited for the role

    • @king_gaming6813
      @king_gaming6813 2 месяца назад

      Fr lol

    • @king_gaming6813
      @king_gaming6813 2 месяца назад

      @@Sironion216not really

    • @wheattoast1971
      @wheattoast1971 7 дней назад

      Tbf, he was really only in it for the one movie to give Tatum that chance to come back. He will likely be back in Secret Wars, which I could see being a one time role.
      I imagine for the X-Men, they’ll want younger actors who can play these roles for 20 years. I wouldn’t be opposed to an older Gambit and older Rogue (since like with Giant Size X-Men they all join as adults). if they wanna go that way they definitely can and Channing would be my pick. But he probably wouldn’t be the best for a 20 year old Gambit.

  • @surge3562
    @surge3562 2 года назад +19

    Jacob Elordi's actually 25 years old, meaning the age-gap between your Rogue & Gambit is a lot smaller than you actually thought.

  • @jacktoma21
    @jacktoma21 2 года назад +47

    The whole finding someone in the right age range now kinda of falls apart when you consider that none of these characters would show up till the third or forth x men movie if they handled the roster like you’ve described.

    • @StewartFletcher
      @StewartFletcher 6 месяцев назад +1

      Luckily, none of this is year and is just a fun exercise for Nando

  • @jamesscott305
    @jamesscott305 2 года назад +10

    I think this is your most solid casting YET! I’m down with everyone of them!
    Shadowcat: You went with Maude Apatow… if you wanted to go younger, her sister Iris Apatow could also really work!
    Jubilee: LOVE your pick. She’s great
    I love Psylocke! & yes, I grew up in the 90/00 so art from Jim Lee, joe Madureira, THAT swimsuit special & layer on Salvador Larroca! + she was a 🇬🇧 X-Men (technical)
    Lilly James is AMAZING! When you put her for Rogue I was like “ok, but what about Betsy” & then you did! (Is Henry Cavill your Brian?….)

  • @jpuggy6793
    @jpuggy6793 3 месяца назад +10

    here we are, two years later, with a peak gambit

    • @TVsttic
      @TVsttic 3 месяца назад +1

      i hope he gets to be in the main mcu he just feels right as gambit

    • @ecxks7109
      @ecxks7109 3 месяца назад +3

      Although I like tatum, hes already in his mid 40s. I dont see him playing the main gambit in the MCU

    • @king_gaming6813
      @king_gaming6813 2 месяца назад

      Real

  • @mickeymouse7726
    @mickeymouse7726 2 года назад +3

    I love all these choices glad you cast Gambit and Rogue they are some of my favorite X-MEN characters

  • @Raphtyr
    @Raphtyr 2 года назад +29

    Darville isn’t Indigenous Australian, he’s Caribbean ethnicity.

    • @ethan-0292
      @ethan-0292 2 года назад +2

      He is also the RPM red ranger. Haha

  • @bjornk14
    @bjornk14 2 года назад +245

    "Kate Pryde is jewish and should be played by a jewish person"
    "Bishop is of aboriginal decent but lets cast an american. Both are black, who will notice"
    "Kwannon is japanese. Why not go with a korean tho!"
    Dude just gave me an hour long whiplash.

    • @davajita
      @davajita 2 года назад +97

      This bothered me too. How are you so finicky with religion, but then say "Jubilee I guess should be Asian" when the character is specifically Chinese-American, and say "Bishop can be just any black guy" when he is specifically Aboriginal. And with Kwannon, the race of the character is pretty important since it is directly tied into her back story, but eh let's just find someone who's Asian. Be consistent or just forget about it man lol

    • @bjornk14
      @bjornk14 2 года назад +34

      @@davajita Unusually problematic of him yes. Lost a fair amount of respect for him after this. Maybe its just a "editing mistake" since he usually more sensitive about this sort of stuff.

    • @thesifagenda
      @thesifagenda 2 года назад +4

      centrist moment!

    • @Gibbypastrami
      @Gibbypastrami 2 года назад +35

      He's normally better about this kind of thing
      He mightve just already had these actors in mind and was blind to his bias, hopefully he does better in the future

    • @joaotess2562
      @joaotess2562 2 года назад +41

      I'm completely with you in regard to the Bishop casting, but to be fair, he only suggested a single korean actress for Kwannon amidst 3 or 4 other suggestions that were all japanese or of japanese descent, and his top pick was also japanese.

  • @IsamotKol
    @IsamotKol 2 года назад +3

    The editing on the psylocke explanation is next level. Great video! Can't wait to see what you do next!

  • @KingSpectre844
    @KingSpectre844 2 года назад +9

    Agreed on Eka for Bishop. Plus (as silly as it seems) he does have experience acting as a peacekeeper in a post apocalyptic future in Power Rangers RPM as the Red ranger.

  • @Ruthless_NiceGuy
    @Ruthless_NiceGuy 2 года назад +23

    It would be cool if Rouge was the “villain” of ‘The Marvels’

  • @tharris2408
    @tharris2408 2 года назад +10

    I feel like there was a missed opportunity in calling this group the Uncanny X-Men since that is the iconic title for them, granted all the other X-Men you cast before helped make it iconic too. It's when most of these members shined. But other than that, great choices! Love your vids!

  • @Mae_forrest
    @Mae_forrest 2 года назад +5

    Ok, so what I'm seeing here is that Nando's got three entire X-men movies already cast, and frankly? I'm here for it. That, or three concurrent simultaneous X-teams. That's dope.

  • @vids1900
    @vids1900 2 года назад +2

    That Rachel Sennott section was a roller coaster, just like Shiva Baby

  • @colorcommentary5987
    @colorcommentary5987 2 года назад +4

    Okay. That whole thing about Rogue's history and her dad's using some type of spell I never heard before. You definitely taught me something there.

  • @yanggang7
    @yanggang7 2 года назад +3

    My first thought when you started talking about Rogue was Mia Healey who plays Shelby in The Wilds. That character isn’t exactly Rogue, but it did let Healey show the range she’d need as a Southern girl who hides her pain behind a smile, who felt like she couldn’t (or didn’t deserve) to love who she wanted, and who could be both cheerful and extroverted and fierce and decisive as a leader.

  • @mayonnnnnaise
    @mayonnnnnaise 2 года назад +43

    As a Mississippian, Rogue and Gambit will always be my favorite X-Men. I would love it SO MUCH if they would start with these two as the romantic focus instead of Jean Grey and Scott again.

    • @SR-zv5ue
      @SR-zv5ue 2 года назад +6

      Agreed, Scott and Jean are so vanilla

    • @marlonclark1896
      @marlonclark1896 2 года назад +3

      as a new Orleanian Gambit will always be my favorite x-man

    • @mayonnnnnaise
      @mayonnnnnaise 2 года назад

      @@marlonclark1896 the south is under served with super heroes. I mean, who do we really have that people know? Gambit, Rogue, and Sam Wilson?
      I'm sure there are lesser known and parody like Leatherhead and Shadow man. It's just so rare that we get a character like PREACHER or rogue with depth

  • @ccdaly2561
    @ccdaly2561 3 месяца назад +1

    Just found this channel, been jumping around random videos, the Bishop rant got me hitting the subscribe button

  • @duck-ew5zs
    @duck-ew5zs 2 года назад +32

    All I gathered from all that Betsy problem is that Betsy's consciousness is the most persevering entity in Marvel, just can't die and revives itself when absorbed by someone else

  • @BryanSeeker
    @BryanSeeker 2 года назад +4

    Been enjoying your picks more and more with each video. Jacob Elordi is my favourite to date.
    Wonderful job here.

  • @BioshadowX
    @BioshadowX 2 года назад +24

    If it weren't for the insane coincidence of 5 Feet Away, I think I would also pitch Natalia Dyer for Rogue. Recent star power from Stranger Things + great actress + can handle relationship roles + horror/trauma

    • @n.k.pierro
      @n.k.pierro 2 года назад +3

      i was thinking sadie sink actually cause shes 20 irl and from texas originally

    • @Gibbypastrami
      @Gibbypastrami 2 года назад

      @@n.k.pierro I'd love seeing Sadie as Syren

  • @richardd.3745
    @richardd.3745 2 года назад +12

    Rina Sawayama is the best bet for Kwannon/Psylocke tbh. She’ll be coming off of John Wick 4 and is British of Japanese Origin.

    • @SuperPianogirl123
      @SuperPianogirl123 2 года назад

      Rina acts??

    • @richardd.3745
      @richardd.3745 2 года назад +2

      @@SuperPianogirl123 she’s debuting in John Wick 4. Apparently the director cast her after the bad Friend video

  • @lucaselliott2097
    @lucaselliott2097 2 года назад +6

    I would love to see you do a DC casting vid (if you haven't already) where you cast Darkseid and begin a segment about Darkseid with just "Darkseid Is..." and just have the screen go to static for a moment or two.

  • @thegrayshaws
    @thegrayshaws 2 года назад +7

    Anna Paquin's Rogue always seemed more like Kitty then Rogue to me.

  • @rodhrimartins
    @rodhrimartins 2 года назад +5

    I'm curious to see your casting of Dazzler, who is my favourite X-Men character!

  • @nickthewerewolf
    @nickthewerewolf 4 месяца назад +2

    I can't remember the last time i laughed as hard as i did when you went through rogue's childhood. Well done.

  • @josiefischer9359
    @josiefischer9359 2 года назад +3

    This was my most anticipated video of yours since you're pretty much the only RUclipsr I trust with fan casting. I love your casting for Rogue and I can't believe I never considered Haley Lu Richardson for the role, she's perfect! Personally, my fan casts for each of these characters are :
    Elizabeth Gillies (older Rogue) or Maya Hawke (or now Haley Lu Richardson) as Rogue
    I didn't have an exact fan cast for Gambit before, besides Channing Tatum but now that you mention it I can totally see Austin Butler or Jacob Elordi for the role
    Maude Apatow as Kitty Pryde
    Ramona Young as Jubilee
    Baykali Ganambarr as Bishop
    Sonoya Mizuno as Psylocke

  • @thejandal9802
    @thejandal9802 2 года назад +43

    Why do your rules about ethnicity get thrown out when it comes to Bishop being Aboriginal Australian? To be clear I agree with your rules generally just found it strange there was a sudden exception

    • @liamlennon3316
      @liamlennon3316 Год назад

      Be anything bishop being anything other than just a black future American was added/retcon like over a decade after his creation and has barely been mentioned since/not important to his character like say kitty being jewish or storm being (raised) African .

  • @adamlevine1914
    @adamlevine1914 2 года назад +13

    You listed Betsy Braddock as Revanche, but Revanche was always Kwannon in Betsy's body. Betsy has been Psylocke and Captain Britain, though.

  • @MGodfrey
    @MGodfrey 2 года назад +1

    i immediately got hyped when i saw the notification and then double hyped when i saw the video length! more Nando less problems!

  • @Juanmaligno
    @Juanmaligno 2 года назад +4

    For Anna Cathcart (jubilee) I'm so surprised you skipped over her years of experience as Olivia on the PBS kids show odd squad I know it's a public broadcast show for kids but it's really well made and even when watching it I could see the range she had, perfect casting for jubilee

  • @literallyvigilante9444
    @literallyvigilante9444 2 года назад +5

    We absolutely need a casting alpha flight video,
    Personally I’d go with Stephen Amell as Vindicator

  • @minty-4465
    @minty-4465 3 месяца назад +3

    two years later your prediction on Channing Tatum being Gambit was correct

    • @mukilandhinesh3931
      @mukilandhinesh3931 3 месяца назад +2

      He was gonna play gambit in a cancelled movie from 2014

  • @SquallNoctisGUX
    @SquallNoctisGUX 2 года назад +4

    Nando isn’t lying here Kitty really is one of the golden children everyone loves her

  • @BenButler-ys1qi
    @BenButler-ys1qi 3 месяца назад +11

    Channing Tatum gambit take aged like already spoiled milk

  • @itscarlosreally
    @itscarlosreally Год назад +1

    Never thought I'd see One Cut of The Dead on this channel. I love that movie.

  • @afternoondelight76
    @afternoondelight76 2 года назад +4

    Love the castings. Are we getting a Brotherhood of Evil Mutants casting for those other villians like: Toad, Blob, Sabertooth, Quicksilver, Pyro??

  • @jc-pi9lf
    @jc-pi9lf 2 года назад +7

    I know you said the X-factor one is probably the last in this series but I would really love if you did the new mutants team. they're one of my favorite comic book teams and are probably my favorite x-men related team ever and would love to see what you do with them compared to what we got in the movie.

    • @gabis314
      @gabis314 2 года назад

      If he does do new mutants I hope he gets an actual brasilian actor for sunspot and not any Hispanic/Latino guy who doesn’t understand brasilian culture because it’s so different from the rest of south and Latin America

  • @v.v365
    @v.v365 2 года назад +1

    One time I made a note in my notes app about an X-Men Breakfast Club AU (as if that’s never been done before) and I was reminded of that AU when you got three heroes in. I really think a story similar to the vibe of Spider-Man Homecoming, something to focus on the lives of the teens at Xavier’s, could work with a cast like this.

    • @ShadowSonic2
      @ShadowSonic2 2 года назад +1

      Breakfast Club AU? They did that with X-Men Evolution.

  • @bibliofowl
    @bibliofowl 2 года назад +3

    "Then when she got better (comics)" LOL

  • @LobsterAfternoon
    @LobsterAfternoon 2 года назад +1

    Love all the thought you put into these. I will say the one point I disagree with you on is Kwannon/Psylocke/Betsy. I'd just split the difference and have one character - Betsy Braddock, who is biracial white/asian, and is half-sister to Brian Braddock (if we see him). Gives you plenty of options on who you can cast, minimizes the duplication of purple hair/psychic powers, and simplifies the backstory. You'd also be able to take the best traits of all these versions and make one great character.

  • @nritsch
    @nritsch 2 года назад +4

    I love the Austin Butler Gambit idea.

  • @frankunodostres473
    @frankunodostres473 2 года назад +4

    ngl the psylocke explanation is the most complicated thing I've ever seen on youtube.
    and I've watched videos analyzing the fibonacci sequence

  • @raymond-reviews
    @raymond-reviews 2 года назад +23

    Lana Condor should still play Jubilee in my opinion. She’s still a young looking lady that can pass for a teenager in my opinion. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

    • @maxh7788
      @maxh7788 2 года назад +1

      Yes! And she was so wasted in that movie. She should get another shot.

    • @littlelordfuckleroy3822
      @littlelordfuckleroy3822 2 года назад +3

      plus they never gave her a chance to be a real character so I don’t think many people would realize she wasn’t recast

    • @johnloverman
      @johnloverman 2 года назад +1

      lana has spoken out that she is done playing teenager/high school roles and is ready to move on. unless Jubilee is aged up, she probably wouldn't agree to the role

  • @edbaitedyou6955
    @edbaitedyou6955 2 года назад +2

    Kurt and kitty are my favorite, aka the nightcrawler and shadow cat.

  • @rachelespiritu4215
    @rachelespiritu4215 2 года назад +8

    "As close to Euphoria has to a villain," is an understatement. Nate Jacobs might be the single least likable character I've ever seen on television. Elordi is great in the role.

  • @phenixcrox
    @phenixcrox 2 года назад +1

    Thomasin Mckenzie as Kitty Pride will be anwsome ! 🤩

  • @squirrelbear797
    @squirrelbear797 2 года назад +6

    X-men apocalypse has a lot of problems but the thing that bothered me most was that they had Jubilee and Cyclops in the same room and Cyclops (!!!) was the one that suggested going to the mall. Jubilee was absolutely robbed. My pick for her would be Brianne Tju

  • @1m2misaelenrique11
    @1m2misaelenrique11 2 года назад +1

    My pitch for Rogue is Thomasin McKenzie. Terrific actress who can play as tormented (Last Night in Soho) but also it's one of the most charming and adorable actress i have ever seen.

  • @rickymaldonado1594
    @rickymaldonado1594 2 года назад +6

    I think Victoria Pedretti from The Haunting of Hill House and You on Netflix would be an incredible Rogue

  • @cwatson1901
    @cwatson1901 3 месяца назад +1

    I’ve been watching the Mike Flanagan series recently and I think Kate Siegel would make a fantastic Rogue. Very talented, sultry, has kind of a dangerous vibe but can play sweet just as well

  • @MJ-zl3vo
    @MJ-zl3vo 2 года назад +5

    I'm kind of curious how'd you go about actually pacing out these different teams? Would the First Class get their own movie followed by Giant Sized and then a third movie introducing the Next Generation of characters? Would each team get their own trilogy? Or would you just introduce the members of the newer teams little by little?
    Personally I think First Class and Giant Sized could at the very least get two movies each.

  • @BlahNetworkBro
    @BlahNetworkBro 2 года назад +1

    Shoutout to casually comics for having a video series about all the Superman love interests with the initials L.L.

  • @SeattleKO
    @SeattleKO 2 года назад +19

    I like Jacob Elordi for Cyclops as I haven’t really seen him turn on the charm (the charm I’d imagine Gambit would have, maybe some glimpses as Nate Jacobs) and only stay in that stoic range but I guess Gambit works too. I really like Lilly James for Rogue as well! Channing Tatem has always seemed more like a Jamie Madrox (maybe even Havok for the himbo-ness) to me than Gambit. And Maude Apatow would be a perfect Kitty!!! For Bishop, it’s kind of a meme but Method Man would be a great older Bishop. Also for Psylocke, I’d say cast both Betsy and Brian Braddock half asian half white actors from England and Jessica Henwick and Henry Golding would be great choices. Although I do think you’re on the right track, if the MCU ever does Psylocke they will probably just split them up into Betsy and Kwannon as separate characters

    • @SeattleKO
      @SeattleKO 2 года назад +3

      Brett Goldstein was my pick for Wolverine but he’s here’s he’s there he’s everyFKNwhere he’s SPOILERS --- Hercules now!

    • @nervioscientifico947
      @nervioscientifico947 2 года назад +1

      Jacob Elordi for Cyclops is SUCH a great casting

    • @JesusFlores-rw8ry
      @JesusFlores-rw8ry 2 года назад +1

      I feel like Elordi is a little young and not that much different from Ty Sheridan but who knows?

    • @tomgebarowski8156
      @tomgebarowski8156 2 года назад +1

      Excited at the thought of having actress Lily James as Rogue...she is on a roll lately doing a great job as young Donna in Mama Mia 2 and as Pam Anderson in Pam & Tommy series! Also, please play up the mercurial romance between Rogue & Gambit!

    • @biguy617
      @biguy617 2 года назад

      Lewis Pullman from Top Gun Maverick is considered for Cyclops according to the internet.

  • @julianxamo7835
    @julianxamo7835 2 года назад +2

    How I wold fix the Psylocke problem is just merge both characters:
    Elizabeth "Betsy" Kwannon is an asian-british mutant daughter of a British woman and a Japanese man, she lived most of her life in Japan but as a teen had to move with her mother AND her older brother Henry Cav- I mean Brian Braddock who is the son/grandson of a British SHIELD agent (Cool connection to that Endgame easter egg)
    This way Psylocke has all the traits, she's Japanese, British, sister to Captain Britain and she can always learn how to do Ninja stuff as a way to connect with her Japanese heritage and become a better fighter at the same time (maybe she was an amazing martial artist as a kid or something)
    Also more biracial representation!
    Of course this is a waaaay more Kwannon-sided adaptation of the character, but with Atwell's Captain "definitely not Captain Britain" Carter already in more than one project, I would say giving Brian the British Captain spotlight is for the best, but I still want the brother sister dynamic because they botched their main way to do that by leaving Wanda Pietroless after AoU

    • @Tazirai
      @Tazirai 2 года назад

      Naw. Let them be separate women. I love my white Euro Betsy Braddock, I also love my Japanese Kwannon, being her own woman for once. What happeneded to both was tragic. It should not have lasted that long, regardless of her popularity or lack thereof.

  • @celestinenox
    @celestinenox 2 года назад +14

    Lol just being from Louisiana isn't enough. As someone who grew up in north Louisiana (Shreveport area), I don't sound anything like a Cajun, most people would probably place me as a Texan, and it's still a difficult accent for me. For Cajun, you'd need someone from a very specific area in south Louisiana.

  • @benc.1197
    @benc.1197 2 года назад

    45:07 "Bishop cops on Vibes."
    😂😂 Thank you Nando, I will be using that to describe Bishop from now on.