I have updated the video description above based on the information you shared with me; can you please make sure it is accurate? Also, do you have any information about this piece's composer, Ma Ke (马克)?
You're welcome. I don't know how to contact Mr. Wong; since most international social media is blocked in mainland China you might try contacting him directly via WeChat (or ask a Chinese friend to do so on your behalf if you don't have a WeChat account). His mailing address seems to be: 箜篌匠 广东省中山市巨龙古玩城二期i幢191号 It's unfortunate that it doesn't seem to be easy to find a website for him.
What are you trying to prove? Koreans have been playing the pipa since at least the 7th century (more than 1,300 years). Yanyue (banquet music) was a tradition shared between all three countries of East Asia, inherited from Central Asian roots. Additionally, Fang Jinlong's 5-string pipa does not comport with historical models.
@@dbadagna We all know how pipa came along the silk road from Middle east and how it developed in history. Korean's 5-string Pipa is called Xiangpipa, which is totally different from Fang's pipa and has been lost. Fang Jinlong's 5-string pipa is a new improved version which is only decades years old, so how can someone from South K take this new improved pipa ,which was designed by Man Ruixing and Fang Jinlong, and taught other people: " this is our traditional archaic instrument but it disappeared a while during wartime and just spreaded to China. Now we find it back" and " This is our unique pipa (point at Fang's 5-string pipa) which is different from Chinese 4-string pipa" ? As public figures and famous actors they should be responsible for what they say. At least they should restore their own Xiangpipa instead of passing it off as their own. Japan also has its own pipa, which is a wonderful symbol of culture diversity and culture blend. But cultural appropriation is unacceptable.
@@dbadagna In addition, what needs to be corrected is that banquet music is the common tradition of the three East Asian countries, but it comes from China, not central Asia. Learn real knowledge
@@mariaswift6458 Native banquet music existed in China in the Han and Wei-Jin periods, but by the Northern and Southern Dynasties, and continuing through the Sui and Tang dynasties, Central Asia exerted a greater and greater influence over East Asian yanyue and daqu performance in terms of modes and music theory, repertoire, instrumentation, choreography, costume, and extramusical association. The yanyue of this period can be considered a blended tradition, though the Central Asian influence was undeniable, and, indeed, often overwhelmingly strong. Many of the titles of Tang-era melodies or dances, such as "Luntai"《輪臺》, "Sumozhe"《蘇莫者》, or "Hu Xuan"《胡旋》are actually transliterations of Central Asian place names or titles, and there are stories throughout the Tang body of literature describing the stellar musicianship of Kuchean master musicians and dancers resident in the Chinese capital. Further, numerous music masters of Central Asian origin (most of them from either Kucha or Sogdiana) held important positions in Chinese court musical institutions beginning in the Northern Dynasties period. Some of us study this history as our profession. It seems that the person speaking out of ignorance is you.
@@dbadagna Affected does not represent the source. It originated in the Shang and Zhou dynasties, and influenced by other countries does not mean that it has become the culture of other countries. With your logic. You claim to study this?
Such tunings are documented in historical sources, but most musicians who play modern 5-string pipas don't have two of the strings doubling the same pitch. This konghou (with skin-covered soundbox) is fairly loud; I think it's just that the performer is playing very softly in this performance, as the accompanying instrument.
The shu konghou is an angular harp, not a frame harp (the modern European harp is a frame harp). But the angular harp, which first appeared in Mesopotamia around 2000 BC, was transmitted to China via Central Asia in the in the Northern and Southern Dynasties period.
It sounds as if the upper four strings are tuned ADEA (from low to high), but Fang doesn't seem to make use of the fifth string at all in this performance. The tuning of his fifth string could probably be determined from scrutinizing other videos in which he plays this instrument, of which there should be several on RUclips. It's likely that the fifth string is pitched below the low A, and tuned to whichever pitch is most useful for the particular piece he's playing.
In this video (starting at 1 minute and 38 seconds), you can hear that Fang's fifth string is tuned to the E a fourth below the pipa's usual lowest A: ruclips.net/video/BwJg8zk6fRU/видео.htmlm38s
I am friends with Gao Hong, and I agree that her duo with the Syrian oud player Issam Rafea is great. Have you seen her performance with the Indian sitar player Shubhendra Rao?
@@dbadagna I haven't heard of it, but it is easy to find on youtube.I like they improvisation on Mixolydian(b6)(maybe).It's much more better than this video,by the way I just don‘t like pop-music harmony arpeggio :
My research indicates that the title 《绿野仙踪》 originated with the Qing-era novel, so I provided this historical background in the last paragraph of my video description. If you know more information about the piece performed in the video, I will add this information to the decription. Videos on Chinese websites are generally so poorly documented that little information can be determined about them, and such was the case as regards this video. I did state in the first paragraph of my video description that it was recorded by the dizi player Chen Yue, but Chen did not invent the title.
Well, this is a modern 5-string pipa, with little relationship to the historic wuxian pipa. They are also playing a contemporary song in pop style. A true early music/historically informed performance movement is still in its earliest stages in China, with most musicians reluctant to use faithfully produced replicas of instruments used in earlier eras, or the techniques and manners of playing formerly used for those instruments.
You would probably need to order it from its maker, Mr. Wong Wai Kee (黄祎琦; Mandarin: Huang Yiqi), who lives and builds instruments in his workshop in the Nansha District of Guangzhou. He has been active online for many years, under the Internet name "箜篌匠."
"Pipa Yin"《琵琶吟》, as performed by the Chinese pipa player Ms. Zhao Cong (赵聪, b. 1976):
ruclips.net/video/4zPeXO69id8/видео.html
空腹的声音是真柔，我感动了💕💕
方锦龙真的是超级大神
Beautiful ❤❤❤
太棒了！
Thank you.
So serene ❤
简直就是享受
Charles L 就是享受
好听
Great 👍🏻 Greetings from Serbia ❤️
好听，非常好听！
太好听了
好好听。😊
席地而坐，金声玉振，时光倒流
这个原曲是赵聪老师琵琶演奏的 后改编的洞箫版本取名为绿野仙踪。
Thank you for sharing this information. I found Zhao Cong's original version here:
v=4zPeXO69id8
I have updated the video description above based on the information you shared with me; can you please make sure it is accurate?
Also, do you have any information about this piece's composer, Ma Ke (马克)?
我就想问还有什么乐器是方锦龙不会的...
Thank you for all the work and research you do on these instruments. Do you know if Mr. Wong Wai Kee currently accepts orders for the Konghou?
You're welcome. I don't know how to contact Mr. Wong; since most international social media is blocked in mainland China you might try contacting him directly via WeChat (or ask a Chinese friend to do so on your behalf if you don't have a WeChat account).
His mailing address seems to be:
箜篌匠
广东省中山市巨龙古玩城二期i幢191号
It's unfortunate that it doesn't seem to be easy to find a website for him.
好！
这首歌，我觉得箜篌和箫更搭配
真是世界最好听的东西
现在韩国人拿方锦龙老师复原的五弦琵琶回去说是韩国的传统乐器了，明明连琴技都是来中国找中国老师教的 (现在的五弦琵琶不是韩国的乡琵琶)
What are you trying to prove? Koreans have been playing the pipa since at least the 7th century (more than 1,300 years). Yanyue (banquet music) was a tradition shared between all three countries of East Asia, inherited from Central Asian roots. Additionally, Fang Jinlong's 5-string pipa does not comport with historical models.
@@dbadagna We all know how pipa came along the silk road from Middle east and how it developed in history. Korean's 5-string Pipa is called Xiangpipa, which is totally different from Fang's pipa and has been lost. Fang Jinlong's 5-string pipa is a new improved version which is only decades years old, so how can someone from South K take this new improved pipa ,which was designed by Man Ruixing and Fang Jinlong, and taught other people: " this is our traditional archaic instrument but it disappeared a while during wartime and just spreaded to China. Now we find it back" and " This is our unique pipa (point at Fang's 5-string pipa) which is different from Chinese 4-string pipa" ? As public figures and famous actors they should be responsible for what they say. At least they should restore their own Xiangpipa instead of passing it off as their own. Japan also has its own pipa, which is a wonderful symbol of culture diversity and culture blend. But cultural appropriation is unacceptable.
@@dbadagna In addition, what needs to be corrected is that banquet music is the common tradition of the three East Asian countries, but it comes from China, not central Asia. Learn real knowledge
@@mariaswift6458 Native banquet music existed in China in the Han and Wei-Jin periods, but by the Northern and Southern Dynasties, and continuing through the Sui and Tang dynasties, Central Asia exerted a greater and greater influence over East Asian yanyue and daqu performance in terms of modes and music theory, repertoire, instrumentation, choreography, costume, and extramusical association. The yanyue of this period can be considered a blended tradition, though the Central Asian influence was undeniable, and, indeed, often overwhelmingly strong. Many of the titles of Tang-era melodies or dances, such as "Luntai"《輪臺》, "Sumozhe"《蘇莫者》, or "Hu Xuan"《胡旋》are actually transliterations of Central Asian place names or titles, and there are stories throughout the Tang body of literature describing the stellar musicianship of Kuchean master musicians and dancers resident in the Chinese capital.
Further, numerous music masters of Central Asian origin (most of them from either Kucha or Sogdiana) held important positions in Chinese court musical institutions beginning in the Northern Dynasties period.
Some of us study this history as our profession. It seems that the person speaking out of ignorance is you.
@@dbadagna Affected does not represent the source. It originated in the Shang and Zhou dynasties, and influenced by other countries does not mean that it has become the culture of other countries. With your logic. You claim to study this?
5-strings pipa is hyang-bipa.
Please don't confuse Chinese music for Korean music.
😌❤
👍👍👍🥰
👍👍👍👍👍👍
据说五弦琵琶最后，即最粗那2根弦音高一样。
箜篌几乎没有声音。
Such tunings are documented in historical sources, but most musicians who play modern 5-string pipas don't have two of the strings doubling the same pitch.
This konghou (with skin-covered soundbox) is fairly loud; I think it's just that the performer is playing very softly in this performance, as the accompanying instrument.
箜篌跟西洋的豎琴一樣的聲音及造型！
The shu konghou is an angular harp, not a frame harp (the modern European harp is a frame harp). But the angular harp, which first appeared in Mesopotamia around 2000 BC, was transmitted to China via Central Asia in the in the Northern and Southern Dynasties period.
古筝，胡琴，扬琴，琵琶，箜篌，唢呐等等都是起源于中东的，到中国后演化成了现在的样子，
西方的乐器也一样，只是他们演化成了提琴，吉他等乐器的样子。
@@mmorpg9564 古筝完全是纯中国本土乐器，箜篌也分本土的和从西域传过来的。
张嘴就来，先去找找资料，看完再说吧，顺便吃点钙片。。。
@@jaxyoung8846 你以为这些东西可以凭空在世界各地分别发明出来？
这不关媚外的事，没什么不好承认的。
@@jaxyoung8846 就比如说浑天仪，在2000年前，中国和希腊几乎同时发明出来，可能是巧合吗？根本不可能，古人远不是你想像的那么闭塞，东西方互相交流多到你想像不到。
How is this 5 String Pipa Tuned?
It sounds as if the upper four strings are tuned ADEA (from low to high), but Fang doesn't seem to make use of the fifth string at all in this performance. The tuning of his fifth string could probably be determined from scrutinizing other videos in which he plays this instrument, of which there should be several on RUclips. It's likely that the fifth string is pitched below the low A, and tuned to whichever pitch is most useful for the particular piece he's playing.
In this video (starting at 1 minute and 38 seconds), you can hear that Fang's fifth string is tuned to the E a fourth below the pipa's usual lowest A:
ruclips.net/video/BwJg8zk6fRU/видео.htmlm38s
@@dbadagna It's the same Low E String as on a Guitar which could really add alot. I wish they had 5 String Pipa String sets.
和声太俗套。听此类乐曲心情是：起了一点小波澜，然后流行味重得不行的和弦琶音让人瞬间down down down。。大家可以听下pipa与oud的另一合奏：ruclips.net/video/z3Zf7oUERQA/видео.html
I am friends with Gao Hong, and I agree that her duo with the Syrian oud player Issam Rafea is great. Have you seen her performance with the Indian sitar player Shubhendra Rao?
@@dbadagna I haven't heard of it, but it is easy to find on youtube.I like they improvisation on Mixolydian(b6)(maybe).It's much more better than this video,by the way I just don‘t like pop-music harmony arpeggio :
How about this one? It's a really good arrangement.
ruclips.net/video/XJWCNK7uar4/видео.html
当你说别人俗套的时候，自己就已经俗不可耐了
@@ruiwu233 虽然不完全同意他的说法，但你这说的是啥逻辑……
琵琶一响，箜篌完全没有存在感了啊！
Weina Chen 箜篌是低音域樂器，要用耳機或全音域喇叭才顯示出來，手機喇叭太小無法展示低音，所以造成錯誤判斷。
@@Redogful 谢谢！
是的琵琶声本身就声大。而且老师的手劲很厉害。我的话弹不出这么响。
Eres de Vietnam？
No, I live in Kent, Ohio, USA.
dbadagna ah,vale
Eres de China
Sean Chang No soy de Hong kong
Kuugo sounds so quietly. I'm surprised with that.
綠野仙踪不是小說嗎，這是配樂嗎
My research indicates that the title 《绿野仙踪》 originated with the Qing-era novel, so I provided this historical background in the last paragraph of my video description. If you know more information about the piece performed in the video, I will add this information to the decription. Videos on Chinese websites are generally so poorly documented that little information can be determined about them, and such was the case as regards this video. I did state in the first paragraph of my video description that it was recorded by the dizi player Chen Yue, but Chen did not invent the title.
陈悦
The actual title of this piece is: 琵琶吟. Roughly translates to “the sigh of the pipa”
Lawrence Goh iii
为什么人家用中文提问，
你们却要用英文回答…
既然是五铉琵琶怎么还竖弹啊？不是应该横弹吗？而且弹奏方法也还是原来的样子
Well, this is a modern 5-string pipa, with little relationship to the historic wuxian pipa. They are also playing a contemporary song in pop style. A true early music/historically informed performance movement is still in its earliest stages in China, with most musicians reluctant to use faithfully produced replicas of instruments used in earlier eras, or the techniques and manners of playing formerly used for those instruments.
1984417rock 其實四弦和五弦的琵琶的彈奏方式都是一樣的，只不過多了根弦而已
琵琶从西域传过来，西域人在马上弹琴，为了方便所以是斜抱的，现在是经过一些改良。四弦琵琶和五弦琵琶区别并不大。都是竖抱
我记得还有倒弹琵琶的😂
呃，恕我直言
人家是國寶級琵琶大師
琵琶應該懂的比我們都還多XD
你如果真的抱過現代的琵琶
就應該會知道琵琶非常非常重
除了南管琵琶，幾乎不可能可以給你橫彈
更別說敦煌石窟裡反彈琵琶了😂
琵琶太大聲, 蓋了另一支樂器, 失去平衡
That's the problem with the modern pipa (with its nylon-wrapped steel strings). I don't think pipas prior to the 1950s had this problem.
@@dbadagna 收音設定可以改善
这个箜篌哪里卖
You would probably need to order it from its maker, Mr. Wong Wai Kee (黄祎琦; Mandarin: Huang Yiqi), who lives and builds instruments in his workshop in the Nansha District of Guangzhou. He has been active online for many years, under the Internet name "箜篌匠."
dbadagna 謝謝指明!
万能的淘宝
琵琶弹的没有强弱之分，一直噼里啪啦的弹。两个乐器完全不协调。差评