Imperial Scientism, Intellectual Colonization - Dr. Shoaib Ahmed Malik

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  • Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024

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  • @SubboorAhmadAbbasi
    @SubboorAhmadAbbasi  4 года назад +36

    Atheism and Islam: A Contemporary Discourse, Shoaib A Malik
    www.academia.edu/38565039/Atheism_and_Islam_A_Contemporary_Discourse

    • @FunkLogicOne
      @FunkLogicOne 4 года назад +1

      When will the Ummah wake up!!! look at history and you'll find that when more people come to the truth the bigger the push back and this soft Islamophobia will turn into hard Islamophobia. Yes Br Shoaib is right... The only way we can push back is by doing good deeds SubbanAllah. Br Subboor please contact me because I do believe there is a tangible way we (the Ummah) can do this, The Pondering Soul has my contact details and is aware of what I'm talking about. I only need 5 minutes of your time.

    • @qkqk6954
      @qkqk6954 4 года назад +1

      Salam brother. I think the best way to talk about the theory of evolution is to show how its unscientific and the best person who did this as far as I know is this man. This man talks about the shortcomings of the theory of evolution. I think it is important for you as a dawah man to watch his videos. Thank you. ruclips.net/user/eyadqunaibi

    • @haseeb1367
      @haseeb1367 4 года назад

      Read its really astonishing

    • @peacemaker1luv901
      @peacemaker1luv901 3 года назад

      Salaams brother Subboor,
      I’ve read only a few books about evolution and what not like, Evolution, science or Ideology, and I’m curious to know why you guys don’t get into the science of the matter. It seems to me that Darwinian evolution doesn’t have a foot to stand on, from biogenesis, to the Cambrian explosion, and others like it in the plant kingdom, carbon dating, 4-5 mass extinctions that obviously don’t have a natural selection mechanism, or the paleontological evidence, or the mathematical improbabilities of the theory coming to fruition, etc… please advise brother as it will ease my soul as I’m convinced that macro evolution is unscientific. May ALLAH grant you all tawfiq in everything iA.

  • @Ayd1th
    @Ayd1th 4 года назад +51

    “ Ideological Colonization : Atheism 2.0 “ . May Allah (swt) protect us all from these militant atheists

    • @joebaz4844
      @joebaz4844 4 года назад +4

      Aameen!

    • @first9_yt
      @first9_yt 2 года назад

      Ameen Ya Rabbul Aalameen

    • @matswessling6600
      @matswessling6600 6 месяцев назад

      "islam against west" is mostly agitated by muslim. Not by the west.
      muslims must realize that they cannot dictate how non-muslim behave. We may criticize any religion, including atheism and Islam.

  • @zairem4207
    @zairem4207 4 года назад +26

    Glad to hear some decent academics have acknowledged the anti-islam agenda!

    • @TravelBandit
      @TravelBandit 4 года назад +5

      Didnt expect that either. Hamdoelillah. Allah SWT is still helping the Ummah

    • @User-so8fj
      @User-so8fj 4 года назад

      @@TravelBandit Alhamdulilah, true akhi! 😊

  • @Amzad_Ali
    @Amzad_Ali 4 года назад +35

    Love from india🇮🇳🇮🇳

  • @mohammadhdiebi3249
    @mohammadhdiebi3249 4 года назад +6

    The light of Islam will always prevail

  • @ozhoneybadger
    @ozhoneybadger 4 года назад +14

    This brother has explained these things very well, made it easy for me to understand.

  • @snake1mi
    @snake1mi 4 года назад +10

    Having spent some most of my life in Norway and Sweden, I've come to realise how sad it is to see the people around me, they really have no ambition other than become salarymen and they have zero care of anything else but the weekends and their trips to their holiday spots. I rarely met anyone (aside from conspiracy theorists) who actually understood the way their society work, the way the establishment has taken their will to find out the truth and the mystery of life. I have a few connection whom have woken up from the Atheistic dream and actually began to understand that the world is bigger and far more complex than what we perceive through our senses. Fortunately some of them crossed paths with me and I did try to give dawah and explain certain misconceptions. I hope they one day convert to Islam, and introduce it to their families.

    • @first9_yt
      @first9_yt 2 года назад +1

      Ameen Ya Rabbul Aalameen

  • @Just_A_Stranger
    @Just_A_Stranger 4 года назад +13

    I 100% agree with you
    May Allah reward you with good and make it double the balance in your good deeds

  • @OSKESIS
    @OSKESIS 4 года назад +19

    I dnt think and dnt agree at all that colonialism has ended... It has "evolved" Into something more sneaky.

  • @momohlawalonotu5388
    @momohlawalonotu5388 4 года назад +9

    My favorite speaker saboor Ahmed

  • @saadkali3083
    @saadkali3083 4 года назад +8

    MashAllah ! brothers , thank you for sharing your knowledge .

  • @lavishlyenigmatic
    @lavishlyenigmatic 4 года назад +7

    Go Suboor !

  • @OSKESIS
    @OSKESIS 4 года назад +17

    I dnt know what to make of Sam Harris after I heard what he said about bombing Muslims

    • @tigawatakasing4331
      @tigawatakasing4331 4 года назад +7

      THE FALLACY HUNTER because he’s afraid. Only islam world view aggressively challenges western ideologies

  • @DawahMotivation
    @DawahMotivation 4 года назад +7

    I think this the bench in the park in front of I-8/2.
    I used to write my blogs there!

  • @OSKESIS
    @OSKESIS 4 года назад +26

    Sam Harris needs to start meditating. And stop attacking Islam. Well u can't be play buddha and warlord at the same time Sam.

    • @OSKESIS
      @OSKESIS 4 года назад +2

      @@amuthi1 I am sure Sam Harris is definitely a caravan raider and I am sure I dnt need atheists to learn Islam. Especially from critiques like Apostate profits and Abdullah sameers. Cheers

    • @OSKESIS
      @OSKESIS 4 года назад +4

      @@amuthi1 Sam Harris makes himself looks stupid when he makes false claims regarding Islam. . When I was an atheist I knew he was wrong. But I didn't knew he was that stupid. And now u defending him 👦 affirm that some atheists are definitely stupid.

  • @jaed123
    @jaed123 4 года назад +2

    JZK for this clip..please have more discussion with Dr.Shoaib.

  • @SawarimHaqq
    @SawarimHaqq 4 года назад +5

    Please do more video with br Shoaib. I'm a huge fan of his since I read his articles from the FB group.

  • @mohamedsimad8067
    @mohamedsimad8067 4 года назад +3

    Please upload more of these types of contents jazakallah

  • @momohlawalonotu5388
    @momohlawalonotu5388 4 года назад +10

    We hardly see you in speaker's conner dis days

  • @openupyoureyes9230
    @openupyoureyes9230 4 года назад +2

    It made sense.. really!

  • @lazyvessel8632
    @lazyvessel8632 4 года назад +1

    This brother has high potential to be a voice actor

  • @thomasbuxton2648
    @thomasbuxton2648 4 года назад +2

    Amazing intellectual!

  • @SurgeonSuhailAnwar
    @SurgeonSuhailAnwar 3 года назад +3

    Not much point in blaming Harris and Hitchens when we are divided into so my sects and busy discrediting ourselves.

    • @Faizan_H
      @Faizan_H 3 года назад

      What does that have to do with this? Are you dumb?

    • @peacemaker1luv901
      @peacemaker1luv901 3 года назад

      His point is that if Muslims were united we wouldn’t even need to have these discussions. What are you dumb?

  • @nh4290
    @nh4290 4 года назад +3

    I am working on postcolonial Muslim identity for my thesis. This discussion is extremely beneficial. Is it possible to get a reading list related to imperial atheism from brother Shoaib? Jazak Allahu khayran for this video!

    • @SubboorAhmadAbbasi
      @SubboorAhmadAbbasi  4 года назад

      email me and I will get you into contact with him, s.ahmad@iera.org

    • @goldenbananacaveman9899
      @goldenbananacaveman9899 4 года назад

      Excellent topic for critical analysis of post colonial philosophy.

  • @MB-id1uh
    @MB-id1uh 4 года назад +1

    Great work guys!

  • @mehfil-e-ghazal786
    @mehfil-e-ghazal786 Год назад

    Loved your work

  • @najibrachid
    @najibrachid 4 года назад +3

    more about this topics ☺

  • @nastohkohistani4196
    @nastohkohistani4196 Год назад

    Thanks a lot 🎉

  • @AbrarManzoor
    @AbrarManzoor 3 года назад

    brother suboor when you are coming live to discuss evolution.

  • @openupyoureyes9230
    @openupyoureyes9230 4 года назад +1

    Yes plz make some more videos

  • @peacemaker1luv901
    @peacemaker1luv901 3 года назад

    Salaams brother Subboor,
    I’ve read only a few books about evolution and what not like, Evolution, science or Ideology, and I’m curious to know why you guys don’t get into the science of the matter. It seems to me that Darwinian evolution doesn’t have a foot to stand on, from biogenesis, to the Cambrian explosion, and others like it in the plant kingdom, carbon dating, 4-5 mass extinctions that obviously don’t have a natural selection mechanism, or the paleontological evidence, or the mathematical improbabilities of the theory coming to fruition, etc… please advise brother as it will ease my soul as I’m convinced that macro evolution is unscientific. May ALLAH grant you all tawfiq in everything iA.

    • @bengreen171
      @bengreen171 2 года назад

      Subboor never discusses the science because he doesn't know enough about it - and he knows he can't refute evolution. You should read proper science books and not apologist propaganda. Evolution is the best affirmed scientific theory we have. It's been studied closely by hundreds of thousands of able biologists for over 150 years, and no-one has dispreoved it. Science doesn't care about your religious beliefs, sicentists simply look at the data and make the most logical deductions and conclusions it can.
      If oyu are actually serious about looking into evolution you should look at hte actual research and data - not what is presented by creationists. It's pretty clear you have only looked at 'anti evolutionist' arguments - the problem with that is they don't give you all hte details.
      Take your comment about mass extinctions. You claim this is evidence that natural selection isn't a mechanism. But why? I'm not sure you understand what natural selection is. Why do you think it means that extinction events are not a thing? You realise that the mutations that occur in all living things are random. The result being that if an environmental change happens that is extreme - like a rapid change in temperatures or an asteroid chnaging hte composition of hte atmosphere - the probability of mutations occurring that enable a species to adapt quickly is quite low. An organism cannot 'will' a mutation into existence. It can't decide to evolve bigger lungs to cope with a lower oxygen content. It can't decide to create a mutation that causes its body to cope with extreme temperatures.
      And mass extinction events are caused by very subtle factors that may not be obvious at first. The extinction of the dinosaurs, as far as we can tell, was the result of a rapid and extreme change to the atmosphere caused by asteroid impact. It meant that for a prolonged period, the sun was obscured. This led to plants dying off - because plants need light to photosynthesise. And it doesn't take much change for plants to suffer. Think about the difference between summer and winter. The dya length in temperate latitudes changes by a couple of hours - and this is enough for plants to stop growing for months. Imagine if winter lasted a couple of years and you have the conditions that meant that large herbivorous dinosaurs starve to death. Which means the large carnivorous dinosaurs starved to death because they no longer had the large herbivores to prey on.
      It's really simple, and doesn't disprove natural selection. In factit confirms it. Because while the large dinosaurs died out, this left gaps in the ecosystem that were filled by other animals - mammals. At the time they were small species, often insectivorous. Their food supply wasn't affected as it was for hte dinosaurs, and since they were small, they needed less food anyway, and so could withstand the environmental catastrophe. That's natural selection.
      Hopefully this explanation of one of your points is enough to make you think about the others as well. Ask yourself if you've really thought about this by taking into account all the data, or if maybe there's a lot you don't know, which has led you to accept poor explanations.

    • @peacemaker1luv901
      @peacemaker1luv901 2 года назад

      @@bengreen171 I think you've missed the point completely. Evolutionists claim that the dinosaurs went extinct and they evolved which is irrational to say the least, they couldn't have done both. It also breaks the time line that evolution tries to hide behind, and to know that there were 4-5 mass extinctions really throws a monkey wrench in the evolutionary time line. If evolution is true then why haven't we learned about the Cambrian explosion and the other explosions' that took place like it which is contrary to the tree of life that we've been falsely informed about. Complex organisms appeared out of no where all of a sudden, which also destroys the evolutionary time line. Have you ever looked these two topics up or thought about them, or do you blindly believe what "scientists" tell you. Have you ever thought about the improbabilities (mathematically) and impossibilities of inorganic, inanimate objects randomly coming to life? A dead cell, which has all the necessary components and conditions for life will never come back to life, so how can inanimate, unrelated objects? I have read the opposing views my friend and it just sounds like rubbish, also they say in their books that no matter what the evidence and rationality they HAVE to come up with a material explanation and I know that's why these guys take the philosophical approach but every day the theory falls further apart through sound and valid scientific research and that's where we need honest minds and why I posed my question. It takes intelligence to make artificial intelligence, how can i believe that biological intelligence, which is 1000X more advanced come into being by random chance? In my opinion it is insanity to believe such a notion.

    • @bengreen171
      @bengreen171 2 года назад

      @@peacemaker1luv901
      no, you don't understand evolution at all. Evolution is no guarantee of success for individual species. In fact the extinction of one species can be the driver of evolution in other species. If a dominant species is removed from the environment by extinction, that leaves room for other species to take over. It's the very definition of survival of the fittest.
      I'm not sure you understand mass extinction events. Not all species went extinct during these periods.While many did, others were able to survive and thrive. If you and your brothers all owned a farm, and some of your brothers died, you would still be able to carry on farming the land with your children.
      You've clearly never read anything about the Cambrian explosion either. It doesn't disprove evolution. Despite what creationists tell you, the cambrian period was a continuation of normal evolution. We have plenty of fossils from before the 'explosion'. Complex life didn't appear from nowhere. And in fact many of the phyla we see today did not appear until millions of years after the Cambrian explosion. You should note that the 'explosion' is in fact a period of 50 million years or so. That's a very long time. It's only referred to as an explosion because compared to the age of the Earth, it's relatively sudden.
      The trouble with getting your information from apologists and non scientists is that they lie about the evidence. You should check out a channel called Jackson wheat. He has many videos about evolution - including some that correct your misinformed view of the Cambrian Explosion.
      Your argument from incredulity doesn't hold any weight. You have clearly never read the actual science and you have a warped view of scientists. No-one set out to invent evolution just to deny God, as you are implying. They simply followed the evidence. You say you have read the 'opposing view' - but you haven't done so honestly. In fact I would go as far as to say that you have never read any actual science book, because your misunderstanding of very simple things is very hard to account for if you really had read the actual science. Why are you lying?

    • @peacemaker1luv901
      @peacemaker1luv901 2 года назад

      @@bengreen171 I took science classes at school here in the states, in college. I was told a lot of ambiguous un-falsifiable things that don't add up. When we speak about mass extinction we are talking about 94%+ of ALL living organisms, and this happened over 5 times. Ordovician-silurian Extinction: 440 million years ago.
      Devonian Extinction: 365 million years ago.Permian-triassic Extinction: 250 million years ago.Triassic-jurassic Extinction: 210 million years ago.
      Cretaceous-tertiary Extinction: 65 Million Years Ago. Someone with a little bit of reason will understand that these mass extinctions were not cooperating with individual species so they can get ahead of the competition. I just googled this information about the Cambrian explosion, anyone can and also look this and other explosions like it in the plant world, etc.."Cambrian explosion, the unparalleled emergence of organisms between 541 million and approximately 530 million years ago at the beginning of the Cambrian Period. The event was characterized by the appearance of many of the major phyla (between 20 and 35) that make up modern animal life." The amount of animals have decreased since then not increased as evolutionist would like the masses to believe. Please don't bother replying as you believe I;m a liar and it would be pointless to talk to a liar. The majority of the people have never heard of the Cambrian explosion, or others like it. Nor have they heard of bio-genesis which is an undeniable fact. My goal here is not to debate you but to have people reading search up these terms for themselves.
      About the Philosophy of science I absolutely did not lie. Material scientist have to have a material explanation and they will never, no matter the evidence accept otherwise. Good luck with your existence. You don't have to resort to name calling.

  • @goldenbananacaveman9899
    @goldenbananacaveman9899 4 года назад

    Three dislikers...are blow flies on the wall.

  • @hikmatullahammar
    @hikmatullahammar 3 года назад

    Taxonomy of atheism? Can somebody enlighten me about this? Jazakallaho khairan

  • @LeekyKale
    @LeekyKale 4 года назад +1

    economic colonialism is still going on

  • @Herman47
    @Herman47 2 года назад +3

    *Evolution is not mentioned in the Quran* . The reason for this is that Muhammad did not know about evolution. And if Muhammad did not know about evolution, then the god of his imagination also did not know about it.
    Muhammad did know about guests staying too long at his home. Consequently, Muhammad's imaginary god knew about this too. So rather than mention evolution, or that mosquitoes transmit disease (which Muhammad also did not know about), Muhammad's mighty god takes time away from his majestic duties to actually tell people not to spend too long in Muhammad's home (Quran 33:53) (Muhammad being too shy to make that request himself).

  • @MB-id1uh
    @MB-id1uh 4 года назад

    Economic colonisation is rife!

  • @lempira1421
    @lempira1421 3 года назад

    Brother Sobbor I think you have to research well and explain that the individual next to you and that he is sectarian he is an ashari
    I think this explains well
    Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen said: The term Ahl as-Sunnah includes the Mu‘tazilah, includes the Ash‘aris, and includes those followers of innovation whose innovation does not go as far as disbelief, if we use the term to mean as opposed to the Raafidis.
    But if we want to explain the meaning of the phrase Ahl as-Sunnah, we say that Ahl as-Sunnah in the true sense of the word are the righteous forebears (as-salaf as-saalih) who united in their adherence to the Sunnah and followed it. In this case, the Ash‘aris, Mu‘tazilah, Jahamis and so on are not among Ahl as-Sunnah according to this meaning.
    End quote from ash-Sharh al-Mumti‘ (11/306).
    If you and brother hijab and the rest you ran with are ashari you should say it don’t do like the Shia who hide themselves
    I am against all sects I had the pleasure of being in some gatherings of Sheikh Uthaymin and he made a clear about sectarianism
    No Salafi no ashari no rafidah no Sufi ect
    Islam is the religion and any adherent to it is a muslim full stop
    Allah protect the muslims from sectarianism and deviance ya Rabbal alamin Allahumma sali ala Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa salaam Allahumma Amin

    • @markward3981
      @markward3981 2 года назад

      What did the scholars from hundreds of years ago say. Why quote just one modern scholar?

    • @lempira1421
      @lempira1421 2 года назад

      @@markward3981
      Subhanna Allah is the reverse please research and study not all scholars accepted Ashari repentance some did
      The scholars differed as to whether al-Ash‘ari recanted the views of Ibn Kullaab in a third stage and agreed completely with the views of Ahl as-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa‘ah, or he continued to follow the views of Ibn Kullaab and did not recant them.
      Some scholars thought that he did adopt the views of Ahl as-Sunnah. That was stated by al-Haafiz Ibn Katheer and, among contemporary scholars, Shaykh Haafiz al-Hakami.
      The second view is that al-Ash‘ari never completely recanted the Kullaabi madhhab; rather he drew close to Ahl as-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa‘ah in many issues.
      This view was favoured by Ibn Taymiyah, Ibn al-Qayyim and others. Even though al-Ash‘ari came very close to the path of Ahl as-Sunnah in al-Ibaanah, he still retained some of the views of the madhhab of Ibn Kullaab.
      Most of the later Ash‘aris do not adhere to the madhhab of Abu’l-Hasan al-Ash‘ari; rather they are influenced by many of the principles of the Jahamis and Mu‘tazilah, and even of the philosophers, and they differ with al-Ash‘ari regarding many of his views. They deny the divine attributes of rising over the Throne (istiwaa’), being exalted, coming down to the lowest heaven (in the last third of the night), the Hand, the Eye, the Foot, and speech. With regard to all these divine attributes, they differ with al-Ash‘ari himself.
      The phrase Ahl as-Sunnah may be used in contrast to the people of bid‘ah (innovation). In this case, what is meant is the people of the Sunnah in the true sense; that only includes those who adhere to sound belief, namely the salaf and ahl al-hadith. In this case, the phrase does not include the Ash‘aris or others who mix their theological principles (‘ilm al-kalaam) with some innovated principles, because they differ with Ahl as-Sunnah regarding many principles and issues.
      The later Ash‘aris were Jabris with regard to the divine decree, Murji’ah with regard to faith; they denied the divine attributes and did not affirm any of them except seven, because they could be proven rationally, or so they claimed. They denied Allah’s rising above the Throne (istiwaa’), His being exalted above His creation, and they said: He is neither within nor without the universe, neither above it nor below it… And there were other differences too. So how can we call them Ahl as-Sunnah?
      Ibn Taymiyah said: The phrase Ahl as-Sunnah refers to those who affirm the legitimacy of the first three caliphs. That includes all groups except the Raafidis.
      It may also mean the scholars of hadith and Sunnah in the true sense of the word. That only includes those who affirm the attributes of Allah, may He be exalted.
      End quote from Minhaaj as-Sunnah (2/221).
      Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen said: The term Ahl as-Sunnah includes the Mu‘tazilah, includes the Ash‘aris, and includes those followers of innovation whose innovation does not go as far as disbelief, if we use the term to mean as opposed to the Raafidis.
      But if we want to explain the meaning of the phrase Ahl as-Sunnah, we say that Ahl as-Sunnah in the true sense of the word are the righteous forebears (as-salaf as-saalih) who united in their adherence to the Sunnah and followed it. In this case, the Ash‘aris, Mu‘tazilah, Jahamis and so on are not among Ahl as-Sunnah according to this meaning.
      End quote from ash-Sharh al-Mumti‘ (11/306).

    • @markward3981
      @markward3981 2 года назад

      @@lempira1421
      The scholars differed over Ibn Taymiyyah as well . Many scholars criticized Ghazali , May Allah have mercy on them. So to be fair scholars have many options.

    • @lempira1421
      @lempira1421 2 года назад +1

      @@markward3981
      لا حول ولا قوة الا بالله
      I am just sharing the information that’s all you said modern scholar and it is not modern scholars we are talking about scholars from the past
      Again I am just providing you the information as to what you do that’s between you and our Rabb

    • @markward3981
      @markward3981 2 года назад

      @@lempira1421
      Fair enough. There are too many attacks made on the Asharis today without people evening knowing anything about them. For the majority of Islamic history the Asharis and Maturidis have been the majority of Sunnis. Ibn Hajar Asqalani , Imam Nawawi, Imam Nawawi, Baqilani , Bahaqi , Salahudin Ayubi , May Allah have mercy upon them, were all Asharis or Maturidis.

  • @aangellotti508
    @aangellotti508 4 года назад

    Wow, you are such brave victims!!!

  • @aangellotti508
    @aangellotti508 4 года назад +2

    Colonialism repackaged into atheism? Holy shit. You really have run out of things to talk about.

  • @Herman47
    @Herman47 2 года назад +1

    Dh. Shoaib Malik gets upset when he believes that people hate Islam. *Yet his religion hates other people* . He has a god who regards disbelievers as the worst of created beings(Quran 98:6), so Dr. Malik also regards disbelievers as the worst of created beings. His god also commands him to fight Christians and Jews until the Muslims get paid money(Quran 9:29). In history, Muslims have obeyed this command, but I am pretty sure that Dr. Malik refuses to obey it.

  • @gainzbreh6834
    @gainzbreh6834 4 года назад

    Atheism nonsense... You both believe in invisible fairytale creatures