OK. I am only at 2.03 but it's been such a good start regarding historical reality you certainly deserve a like and comment! At the very least. Enjoy your channel very much, one of the best if not the best historical channels on the net.
I definitely was not, intending to spend the last hour, listening to a history of Russian expansion and ultimate defeat, yet I regret nothing! Thank you for another excellent video.
Even being American, and not supporting the Russo-Ukrainian war, the last statement brought a tear to my eye. What was once potentially one of the grandest empires in history, in the end, wasn't. A+ work, FANTASTIC monologue.
I mean Russia is still the largest country in the world. It has been for a while. It'll be in the history books a long time, even if it doesn't survive this century. First people in space too. What is meant by "in the end it wasn't"? The failure to rebuild Byzantium in the Mediterranean?
@@justian1772 an empire that had the potential, even if we excluded the baltics to have half billion+ people with the Russians, being a super majority even in Kazakhstan or Uzbekistan to a country that struggles to conquer it’s own backyard against peasants with sodomite weapons. They may grasp victory, however, they define it. It is humiliating that this is even a Contest for Russia in any way. Russia may be the largest country in the world. What does that matter when they border the strongest country in the world China and cannot compete economically or militarily with them short of nuclear war. The mission of the Russian empire, has nearly failed. Putin would have to be a better leader then he appears to take victory from the jaws of defeat. Even though I’m hoping they conquer Ukraine partially to give it a West a wake up call and partially because Semitic rule is worse than Russian tyranny. I doubt Russia is capable of more than a war with Ukraine this century.
@@justian1772 do you fear a completely homogenous nation of half 1 billion people or a nation of 150 million that jiggles its minorities. Russia had a chance to be second only to China and the fact that we will never see that empire saddens me.
@@rudysmith1552 everyone hurts sometimes. The author of this video hails from the remains of The British empire, which he seems to think did better? Just saying. Relatively.
@@rudysmith1552 I guess I take a longer view. I just don't make calls that easily. Russia is still around today and even if it balkanized, certain pieces of it would still be reckoned with and would carry the culture. No empire in history ever achieved its full potential. As an Orthodox Christian, I see it all as temporary and secondary in the long scheme anyway. In my opinion, Russia already "Had a good run. "
Bravo, AM. Anyone else feel like this is the commentary they needed on their last play-through of EU4 as Muscovy. Not wishing to lower the tone, of course: please forgive.
Very interesting analysis. I must say that having listened to your presentation I tend to agree with your thesis. Certainly Russian power has been eclipsed by China.
I would love an episode about the late Ming Dynasty and the Jesuit China Missions. The late Ming and early Qing era was perhaps the period of time when Christianity was at its most mainstream and established in Chinese history.
From 21:05 I am guessing you make a mistake by saying Crimea but what did you actually mean? Edit: From what I have gathered, being a poor historian if I even deserve that name, the Great Game was only in the heads of the British and the Russians had no desire to go through India. Although Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzeziński cited the Great Game (Quite hilariously immortalised in the Carter Doctrine.) as what the soviets were doing by invading Afghanistan, this was again not in the soviet's mind (This being noted I do not know what the soviets were doing.).
Indeed i have and I completely agree with the premise. I' m not sure if the Romanofs wouldn't have managed to screw things up later given the status of their heir for starters, not to mention the growing unease of the public for the whole autocracy thing. The Russojapanese war however was a huge catalyst for the things to come.
Mongol - Moscow horde´s war record :- 1856 defeated by Britain and France 1905 defeated by Japan 1917 defeated by Germany 1920 defeated by Poland, Finland, Estonia and all Baltic states 1939 defeated by Finland 1969 defeated by China 1989 defeated by Afghanistan 1989 defeated in the Cold War. 1996 defeated by Chechnya 2022 defeated by Ukraine WW2 won USA/Britain , meanwhile Stalin's officers were shot or sent to the Gulags. Millions went to the Gulags, including Solzhenitsyn Moscow's only victories come from invading smaller countries :- a) Hungary 1956 b) Czechoslovakia 1968 c) Moldova 1992 d) Georgia 2008
I arrived at the same conclusion although Mukden, Port Arthur and Tsushima were extensions of the same conflict with each being an integral part of the end of eastward Russian expansion. From the Japanese point of view it's not difficult to understand their felt superiority leading to WW2. Nobody else had kicked the Russians ass as badly as Japan.
"Nobody else had kicked the Russians ass as badly as Japan." And even then they almost bankrupted themselves while Russia only started deploying it's European half of the army by the end of the war.
@@fus132 The Russians didn't win a single battle. Sure, they may have ground down the Japanese eventually, but I guess the revolution intervened. You can't diminish Japan's accomplishment. And for good measure, Japan more or less singlehandedly kept the Bolsheviks out of the Far East for several years during the Civil War.
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While I agree with the conclusion in many ways, I don't agree with its sense of finality, as if history had ended. Russia has been in much worse predicaments historically. And China has itself disintegrated into civil war many times. It would perhaps be more accurate to agree that today, for Russia, things are neither easy nor straightforward.
@@ApostolicMajesty I absolutely agree... and I've watched quite a few of your streams. Honestly the best history podcasts I've come across in many years. Keep up the good work! Your analysis is the deepest I've seen from a Westerner. No bias detected which goes a long way.
Russia failed to populate its far eastern teritory and lost central asia ,and with its decline in population ,there ll be no chance for russian power in asia the next century.
@@milanvitu3963 there's also a massive influx of Chinese immigrants currently populating Siberia. Considering how resource-rich the region is, I wouldn't be surprised if it will be a geopolitical flashpoint in the coming decades
Moscow horde´s war record :- 1856 defeated by Britain and France 1905 defeated by Japan 1917 defeated by Germany 1920 defeated by Poland, Finland, Estonia and all Baltic states 1939 defeated by Finland 1969 defeated by China 1989 defeated by Afghanistan 1989 defeated in the Cold War. 1996 defeated by Chechnya 2022 defeated by Ukraine WW2 won USA/Britain , meanwhile Stalin's officers were shot or sent to the Gulags. Millions went to the Gulags, including Solzhenitsyn Moscow's only victories come from invading smaller countries :- a) Hungary 1956 b) Czechoslovakia 1968 c) Moldova 1992 d) Georgia 2008
The Taiping Heavenly Kingdom was not worth supporting under any circumstances. As much as I dislike the Manchu Qing as a Protestant Han Chinese, the Taipings were not Heavenly, Protestant, Chinese or a Kingdom. It was an iconoclastic schizo cult state bent on destroying almost all previous Chinese culture and replacing the Qing with a heterodox pseudo-Christian theocratic nightmare.
I disagree with your conclusion in the end. Stalin's concessions to China proved vital for Russia, china today is their only ally, against a united West, it proved vital for them, maybe even saving them from demise. if Manchuria was made a socialist state, it would eventually meet the fate of GDR in Germany, uniting with China after soviet collapse. in turn, Russia benefited from an ally over a temporary territory.
@@rbrookeb The USSR won the Winter War, and took territory from Finland. That's why Finland joined the Axis, to reclaim the territory in the Continuation War.
Although your forecast at the very end of your podcast, that for Russia's fortunes vis a vis the Dynasty Mao founded, are not without foundation, you're a bit glum, chum. Russia has still managed to keep Chinese colonization at arm's length, especially when you compare it to, say, Cambodia or Sri Lanka (not to mention Eastern Turkmenistan).
@@ApostolicMajesty well one needs to look at it objectively, neither with embelishment nor with disdain. Russia is as beautiful as it is terrifying. Like a Leviathan, or a Distant Planet. It has a mind and a will of it's own. Always has and always will. I very much enjoy your content since your Kingdom of Heaven analisis. god bless you
@@ApostolicMajesty I guess it is possible to be russophile if you don't understand russians, their culture, language and the reality they live in. It is akin to the Westerners love of the ''other'' the ''exotic'' , the ''noble savage'' and maybe to believing in myths even if sometimes those myths are just lies made by kgb.
@@johnsun3854 Ah, someone’s actually got it, well done! I was starting to think that everyone in these comments was talking about some imaginary kingdom from a fairytale book. Really this romanticisation of Russia from clueless people is absolutely ridiculous.
One more note. Excuse me, but saying 'russian losses in Second World War on 12 mln people' - it's insulting for plenty of countries that were part of Soviet Union. Specially, Ukraine, who suffered one of the most terrible losses in the war. It was not 'russian people', it was different nations, who made to be cannon fodder for Soviet butchers - Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Belarusian, Kazakh, so on..
guys.... Rus IS NOT russia. Rus (also known as Kyivan Rus) is medieval state that was primarily located on the current territory of Ukraine. 'russia' is made-up term by moscovian duchy LATER, when they in Moscow were trying to invent an ancient history for themselves.. There was no ANY continuity and barely any political / mental / ethnical legacy of Rus in 'russia'.
@@danraider482 Russia has lost its chief resource that helped it overwhelm it's smaller enemies. The reservoir of drunk mujiks has stopped growing in the 20th century and is drying up. There will be no comeback.
@@danraider482all of Russia's enemies over the last 500 years from the British to the French to the Germans to the Japanese to the Americans have eclipsed her. Even the Swedes have found a newfound sense of strength with their ascension into NATO. (Admittedly though the Poles and the Lithuanians didn't make it, so perhaps we can give that one to the Russians)
@@mrhivefive "The reservoir of drunk mujiks has stopped growing in the 20th century and is drying up." Soviet human wave tactics will die with their general staff, the country will most likely fall together with them as well, but as the others have said, that won't be permanent. Let's just hope it won't be red either.
@@Laotzu.Goldbug Define "Eclipsed". All I see from the year of our Lord 2023 is the America leeching off of Europe while (potentially irreversibly) mongrelizing the native population of both. The kremlin (including Mr.P himself) is not innocent of the latter either, mind you.
You're missing the point lol. Just more Europeans into the meat grinder. 250000+ children displaced. None of it is a win and it's being perpetuated by the corrupt senile west.
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OK. I am only at 2.03 but it's been such a good start regarding historical reality you certainly deserve a like and comment! At the very least. Enjoy your channel very much, one of the best if not the best historical channels on the net.
Had only Hyperborea been found…
Your narrations and episode are monuments of audio marble that breath life into a dead language past. Bravo!
I definitely was not, intending to spend the last hour, listening to a history of Russian expansion and ultimate defeat, yet I regret nothing! Thank you for another excellent video.
Russia is just a fleeting ‘Little dark age’ edit.
Outstanding as always. I've read about this period many times, but this angle gave the conflicts a new perspective.
A excellent talk.
Very interesting. Russia did not succeed in escaping its cage, only in expanding it.
Even being American, and not supporting the Russo-Ukrainian war, the last statement brought a tear to my eye. What was once potentially one of the grandest empires in history, in the end, wasn't.
A+ work, FANTASTIC monologue.
I mean Russia is still the largest country in the world. It has been for a while. It'll be in the history books a long time, even if it doesn't survive this century. First people in space too. What is meant by "in the end it wasn't"? The failure to rebuild Byzantium in the Mediterranean?
@@justian1772 an empire that had the potential, even if we excluded the baltics to have half billion+ people with the Russians, being a super majority even in Kazakhstan or Uzbekistan to a country that struggles to conquer it’s own backyard against peasants with sodomite weapons. They may grasp victory, however, they define it. It is humiliating that this is even a Contest for Russia in any way. Russia may be the largest country in the world. What does that matter when they border the strongest country in the world China and cannot compete economically or militarily with them short of nuclear war. The mission of the Russian empire, has nearly failed. Putin would have to be a better leader then he appears to take victory from the jaws of defeat. Even though I’m hoping they conquer Ukraine partially to give it a West a wake up call and partially because Semitic rule is worse than Russian tyranny. I doubt Russia is capable of more than a war with Ukraine this century.
@@justian1772 do you fear a completely homogenous nation of half 1 billion people or a nation of 150 million that jiggles its minorities. Russia had a chance to be second only to China and the fact that we will never see that empire saddens me.
@@rudysmith1552 everyone hurts sometimes. The author of this video hails from the remains of The British empire, which he seems to think did better? Just saying. Relatively.
@@rudysmith1552 I guess I take a longer view. I just don't make calls that easily. Russia is still around today and even if it balkanized, certain pieces of it would still be reckoned with and would carry the culture. No empire in history ever achieved its full potential. As an Orthodox Christian, I see it all as temporary and secondary in the long scheme anyway. In my opinion, Russia already "Had a good run. "
Relaxed and ready for bed after another hot day in the desert. Many thanks A.M.
This was a great episode and just a pleasure to listen to, keep up the good work
Excellent work, looking forward to more deep dives like this.
Excellent work. As usual.
So happy you are back.
Excellent as always. I'd love you to do a video on Charles de Gaulle.
Fantastic piece of content
Bravo, AM.
Anyone else feel like this is the commentary they needed on their last play-through of EU4 as Muscovy. Not wishing to lower the tone, of course: please forgive.
Excellent lecture, cheers.
Russiabros... it's so over
I mean looking at events, I don't know which side I'd bet on.
@@justian1772I wish nato would do a false flag and attack Russia and end it tbh like last year!
@@rbrookeb Maybe because most of the Nato countries are just as unprepared as Russia for a major European war, especially the Uk and Germany
We'll within a few years find out who's over and who has a future.
@@stavroshadjiyiannis6283 either way nothing lasts forever.
Very interesting analysis. I must say that having listened to your presentation I tend to agree with your thesis. Certainly Russian power has been eclipsed by China.
And that's a good thing.
Thank you for an informative presentation.
You are an exemplar of honest historical examination.
I would love an episode about the late Ming Dynasty and the Jesuit China Missions. The late Ming and early Qing era was perhaps the period of time when Christianity was at its most mainstream and established in Chinese history.
Everything on the Jesuits would be most welcome!
wouldn't we all. The Paraguay missions too
There’s some discussion of the Jesuits in the Portugal stream I think
Great show
How is the intro track called?
Excellent
This stream is another instance when I think it will depress me, but it doesn’t and I leave more enlightened than before.
From 21:05 I am guessing you make a mistake by saying Crimea but what did you actually mean? Edit: From what I have gathered, being a poor historian if I even deserve that name, the Great Game was only in the heads of the British and the Russians had no desire to go through India. Although Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzeziński cited the Great Game (Quite hilariously immortalised in the Carter Doctrine.) as what the soviets were doing by invading Afghanistan, this was again not in the soviet's mind (This being noted I do not know what the soviets were doing.).
Indeed i have and I completely agree with the premise. I' m not sure if the Romanofs wouldn't have managed to screw things up later given the status of their heir for starters, not to mention the growing unease of the public for the whole autocracy thing. The Russojapanese war however was a huge catalyst for the things to come.
Have you watched it yet? We are all desperate to know whether you have or not.
Ah a fellow monarchist.
It's good to have the pasta-posse back.
I thought this was going to be about 2022
One day she shell expand into Hyperborea.
Mongol - Moscow horde´s war record :-
1856 defeated by Britain and France
1905 defeated by Japan
1917 defeated by Germany
1920 defeated by Poland, Finland, Estonia and all Baltic states
1939 defeated by Finland
1969 defeated by China
1989 defeated by Afghanistan
1989 defeated in the Cold War.
1996 defeated by Chechnya
2022 defeated by Ukraine
WW2 won USA/Britain , meanwhile Stalin's officers were shot or sent to the Gulags. Millions went to the Gulags, including Solzhenitsyn
Moscow's only victories come from invading smaller countries :-
a) Hungary 1956
b) Czechoslovakia 1968
c) Moldova 1992
d) Georgia 2008
I arrived at the same conclusion although Mukden, Port Arthur and Tsushima were extensions of the same conflict with each being an integral part of the end of eastward Russian expansion. From the Japanese point of view it's not difficult to understand their felt superiority leading to WW2. Nobody else had kicked the Russians ass as badly as Japan.
"Nobody else had kicked the Russians ass as badly as Japan."
And even then they almost bankrupted themselves while Russia only started deploying it's European half of the army by the end of the war.
@@fus132 The Russians didn't win a single battle. Sure, they may have ground down the Japanese eventually, but I guess the revolution intervened. You can't diminish Japan's accomplishment. And for good measure, Japan more or less singlehandedly kept the Bolsheviks out of the Far East for several years during the Civil War.
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To our lord Algorithme, please bless Apostolic Majesty.
May he be known as ''Bountiful loins'' and/or the Knowlegeable.
This is all.
While I agree with the conclusion in many ways, I don't agree with its sense of finality, as if history had ended. Russia has been in much worse predicaments historically. And China has itself disintegrated into civil war many times. It would perhaps be more accurate to agree that today, for Russia, things are neither easy nor straightforward.
Historians aren't prophets. I can only speak to events that have transpired to land us in today's predicament.
@@ApostolicMajesty I absolutely agree... and I've watched quite a few of your streams. Honestly the best history podcasts I've come across in many years. Keep up the good work! Your analysis is the deepest I've seen from a Westerner. No bias detected which goes a long way.
Russia failed to populate its far eastern teritory and lost central asia ,and with its decline in population ,there ll be no chance for russian power in asia the next century.
@@milanvitu3963 there's also a massive influx of Chinese immigrants currently populating Siberia. Considering how resource-rich the region is, I wouldn't be surprised if it will be a geopolitical flashpoint in the coming decades
Russia did become a great power. Just not the Russia you expected
Russia was a great power in Eastern Europe, but after this war its power in east Asia was weakened
Ride the Tiger.
I was going to guess Crimea? Russian Civil War?
I figured it out 5 seconds before he said it.
Moscow horde´s war record :-
1856 defeated by Britain and France
1905 defeated by Japan
1917 defeated by Germany
1920 defeated by Poland, Finland, Estonia and all Baltic states
1939 defeated by Finland
1969 defeated by China
1989 defeated by Afghanistan
1989 defeated in the Cold War.
1996 defeated by Chechnya
2022 defeated by Ukraine
WW2 won USA/Britain , meanwhile Stalin's officers were shot or sent to the Gulags. Millions went to the Gulags, including Solzhenitsyn
Moscow's only victories come from invading smaller countries :-
a) Hungary 1956
b) Czechoslovakia 1968
c) Moldova 1992
d) Georgia 2008
The Tai Ping revolution is another example where we fought on the wrong side.
The Taiping Heavenly Kingdom was not worth supporting under any circumstances. As much as I dislike the Manchu Qing as a Protestant Han Chinese, the Taipings were not Heavenly, Protestant, Chinese or a Kingdom. It was an iconoclastic schizo cult state bent on destroying almost all previous Chinese culture and replacing the Qing with a heterodox pseudo-Christian theocratic nightmare.
They weren’t even Christian
@@rudysmith1552They were total freakazoids
I agree in so far that we should have just conquered China.
@@rudysmith1552"Christianity with Chinese characteristics"
Peter the great should have never come to Power to try to transform russia to a western european sea power wath never had a chance
I disagree with your conclusion in the end. Stalin's concessions to China proved vital for Russia, china today is their only ally, against a united West, it proved vital for them, maybe even saving them from demise. if Manchuria was made a socialist state, it would eventually meet the fate of GDR in Germany, uniting with China after soviet collapse. in turn, Russia benefited from an ally over a temporary territory.
Wat defeat? The defeat of the Red Army by Army Group South in the Uman region of the Ukraine in late summer 1941?
The Crimean War
^^^
+
The winter war
The Cold War
The Afghanistan invasion
Just off the top of my head.
@@rbrookeb The USSR won the Winter War, and took territory from Finland. That's why Finland joined the Axis, to reclaim the territory in the Continuation War.
@@rbrookeb That's not Russia good sir.
Although your forecast at the very end of your podcast, that for Russia's fortunes vis a vis the Dynasty Mao founded, are not without foundation, you're a bit glum, chum. Russia has still managed to keep Chinese colonization at arm's length, especially when you compare it to, say, Cambodia or Sri Lanka (not to mention Eastern Turkmenistan).
+1
I may hate your russophobia with a passion, but my god you have a way with words
I consider myself a russophile. I wouldn't have devoted so much time to their history otherwise.
@@ApostolicMajesty well one needs to look at it objectively, neither with embelishment nor with disdain. Russia is as beautiful as it is terrifying. Like a Leviathan, or a Distant Planet. It has a mind and a will of it's own. Always has and always will. I very much enjoy your content since your Kingdom of Heaven analisis. god bless you
@@ApostolicMajesty I guess it is possible to be russophile if you don't understand russians, their culture, language and the reality they live in. It is akin to the Westerners love of the ''other'' the ''exotic'' , the ''noble savage'' and maybe to believing in myths even if sometimes those myths are just lies made by kgb.
@@johnsun3854 Ah, someone’s actually got it, well done! I was starting to think that everyone in these comments was talking about some imaginary kingdom from a fairytale book. Really this romanticisation of Russia from clueless people is absolutely ridiculous.
One more note. Excuse me, but saying 'russian losses in Second World War on 12 mln people' - it's insulting for plenty of countries that were part of Soviet Union. Specially, Ukraine, who suffered one of the most terrible losses in the war. It was not 'russian people', it was different nations, who made to be cannon fodder for Soviet butchers - Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Belarusian, Kazakh, so on..
Yes, then why british SPECIALIST love to call soviet union a form of RUSSIAN EMPIRE?
This is academia?
guys.... Rus IS NOT russia. Rus (also known as Kyivan Rus) is medieval state that was primarily located on the current territory of Ukraine. 'russia' is made-up term by moscovian duchy LATER, when they in Moscow were trying to invent an ancient history for themselves.. There was no ANY continuity and barely any political / mental / ethnical legacy of Rus in 'russia'.
Russian greatest defeat is yet to come and it will be glorious (I'm not talking about the current war, so don't bother).
She always comes back which can't be said for her enemies
@@danraider482 Russia has lost its chief resource that helped it overwhelm it's smaller enemies. The reservoir of drunk mujiks has stopped growing in the 20th century and is drying up. There will be no comeback.
@@danraider482all of Russia's enemies over the last 500 years from the British to the French to the Germans to the Japanese to the Americans have eclipsed her. Even the Swedes have found a newfound sense of strength with their ascension into NATO.
(Admittedly though the Poles and the Lithuanians didn't make it, so perhaps we can give that one to the Russians)
@@mrhivefive "The reservoir of drunk mujiks has stopped growing in the 20th century and is drying up."
Soviet human wave tactics will die with their general staff, the country will most likely fall together with them as well, but as the others have said, that won't be permanent.
Let's just hope it won't be red either.
@@Laotzu.Goldbug Define "Eclipsed". All I see from the year of our Lord 2023 is the America leeching off of Europe while (potentially irreversibly) mongrelizing the native population of both.
The kremlin (including Mr.P himself) is not innocent of the latter either, mind you.
Here's to breaking the record. 🇺🇦🇺🇦
Zog smiles on you
You're missing the point lol. Just more Europeans into the meat grinder. 250000+ children displaced. None of it is a win and it's being perpetuated by the corrupt senile west.
@@xxvxxv5588 zog backs Ukraine.
Lol u wish
How thr fuck is it not the mongol empire?