I am an absolute fan of Brian Swimme since the 1990s! He is right on target 🎯 with his knowledge and insights😇 Thank you both for this interview and posting on RUclips!❤
Consciousness and matter develop simultaneously☯️, with and for each other, so humans may understand TRUE LOVE with its own AND what it feels like with its own heart. Brains and Hearts must be connected in order to BECOME A TRUE HUMAN BEING! Thank you, Dr. Swimme, for setting me on the right path with your audiobook “Canticle to the Cosmos”! 🌟
This book needs to be available in as many formats as possible. Some of us are not efficient readers. I have looked for an audio edition of Cosmgenesis. There doesn't seem to be one. Here's hoping there will be one sooner than later. It's a tool to help us see better into both past and future, not to mention clarifying the present.
28:20. It sounds to me like humanity is becoming conscious of its own sacred dimension within a Sacred Universe. So exciting to be alive at this moment in time as we enter this new dimension consciously🤩
I just paused to think at your suggestion at the beginning your your interview and would like to say the following: 1. I just received Brian Swimme’s book *Cosmogenesis* and can’t wait to start reading it! 2. Since listening to his *Canticle to the Cosmos* audio cassette series in 1995, he said, each one of us has but one task to perform in life: IDENTIFY WHO YOU ARE! 3. If I had to answer this question today, the answer is: I am just one little water droplet 💧 with a spark tiny spark⚡️ inside of me. 4. If my drop 💧⚡️ enables this vast pool of knowledge to start swinging into CONSCIOUS LIFE , then my mission on earth is complete. 5. May all of Heaven rejoice as each little human droplet join as ONE 💧and swing in rhythm in the WATER OF LIFE the ONE word at the beginning of Creation: HALLELUJAH❣️🙏
The most difficult "issue" for humans to comprehend is the natural selection and evolution process of Homo sapien over millions of years living here on earth. The chimp looks up in the sky and feels awe-struck but does not develop physics, or astro-physics or cosmology. Why? Because s/he doesn't have to. Remember: in a face to face wrestling match between our best human and the chimp's best fighter, the chimp wins hands down. He rips the human to shreds: just too muscular. So even with a 99% similarity of genes, the chimp is king of the hill as far as physical prowess goes. So what the human had to do was to find another hill. Our niche, over millions of years of evolution becomes our ability to manipulate our environment through highly developed cognitive skills, compensating for our lack of pure physical muscularity. The non-human primates didn't have to engage his brain further because he was physically superior to us humans. It was we humans who had to develop "higher" cognitive capabilities because we had to. It was we humans that had to and we did, over millions of years. So as much as all primates may feel awe-struck when looking out at the cosmos observing the twinkling stars, it was the human who, over millions of years, learned to be inspired by such a celestial sight so as to be motivated to develop our math (especially geometry), physics and optics (to build telescopes which served as a "power-eye".) This gift of creating astronomy, physics, astro-physics, and cosmology was an outgrowth of the human's need to control our environment through math and precise tool-making all of which took millions of years to develop the skills to do so. This is the truly awesome point to ponder: from the chiseling of arrow-heads to the construction of the James Webb Telescope, we have come a long way in being able to apply our brain to the development of math, science, tech, tools etc. to build such a telescope which is truly a human "power eye" into the deep deep universe, the concept of which we, also, in effect, have created. Yes, our brain creates human reality, including the concept of a "universe". Yes: the human brain creates reality in all its details and definitions. And Dr. Professor Brian Swimme reminds us that we as humans also need a strong dose of inspiration to excite our heart and fire-up our brain to continue to "tell the story" to inspire kids to grow up to devote their lives to the study of science and technology to build yet more sophisticated versions of the James Webb Telescope and spaceships to take us to far-away places.
Consciousness and matter are one and the same since both originate from the big bang. Everything comes from what was created from the big bang except there are variations.
This comment must be separate from my previous one to react to Dr. Swimme's story about when he was a professor and one of his students came up to him and said she was changing her major from music to physics. Now we learn that this girl had already devoted 10 years to her career as musician and a student of music. And Dr. Swimme was concerned that somehow he had disrupted her career-track. I beg to differ. First to consider is that this girl will always have her music (like Einstein had his violin and involvement in playing chamber music). And then when Dr. Swimme flashes back to his time as a 4 yr old in Lakewood, Washington, up in his "high" bedroom, looking out the window and being inspired by the night sky, as if the Universe was talking to him. I must take issue. There may have been in the ancient pre-literate history of humans, as told by a gifted shaman, a concept that the sun, the moon, the mountains and the trees, the sea and indeed the stars twinkling into our hearts at night, was an instance to attribute god-like powers to these bigger, higher, and vaster visual experiences as if these awesome images had separate souls and were actually talking to us, whereas it was our own mind which was talking to itself. Transformation: this ability of the brain to talk to itself, to inspire itself. This may be the key word to use. There is no "god-like" power of the sun as if it were Zeus. How so? Human evolution, over millions of years, somehow transformed human thinking from its animistic perspective, to one that clearly implies that we have developed the capacity through biological evolution to be inspired by what we see around us. It is the human brain which is the source of the inspiration. True, without the sun, we would not have life on earth (as we know it). But we also learn that it is the human brain capacity to build our science and technology to harness the powers of the sun, which is truly the object of our inspiration and motivation to act. A decision to make? Yes! And the teacher compels us to decide to act to create, in all human fields, from music and dance to science and technology. Somehow the human species has become fine-tuned to pulsate energy of inspiration which can and does motivate us to study hard, observe deeply and persevere patiently to build our world, which includes the James Webb Telescope. So what is my point? My point is that it is Professor Brian Swimme to whom we owe a debt of gratitude, not the sun, or the moon, or the vast expanse of beautiful twinkling cosmos. It is the efforts of Brian Swimme to put together and continue to refine his story of what life is all about to him which will inspire his students to pursue the study of science and create new tools to explore our world with greater and greater detail and precision. Why is this important, philosophically? Because it puts the responsibility squarely on the backs of the human to inspire: teacher to student, mentor to musician, throughout the generations. It is not the sun which has the power to inspire. It is the spark of humanity shared by the teacher/mentor which motivates the student to get off his/her backside and work hard to create new science and tech to further expand our world. This is the language of the human: to recognize the signals to act, to make "transformtional" decisions. Yes, we have to realize how important, how valuable teachers are, from our kindergarten years through our graduate school days and beyond, in inspiring us and motivating us to "break our brains" till it hurts to make a deep dive into the science and tech which we have to build yet further layers of understanding and capability to manipulate our environment (like cleaning up the pollution we make). This is the message of this podcast: the veneration of the teacher. And Professor Swimme's student who "changed" her major? She is so happy to have learned her music and derived pleasure from it. Now she takes this positive energy and applies it to her study of physics. The love of music and the precision of physics go together to create yet another wave of inspiration and motivation for kids, generation after generation, to learn the story of this music to physics girl and be delighted to follow their own course to learn to participate in the human culture of science, tech and the humanities. For the first experience we have is the memory of our mother singing to us her sweet song of joy, as we are nursing at her breast: totally nourished by her caring: heart and soul, fused.
I beg to differ. There is not a single event in Brian Swimme’s life (or for that matter all our lives) that is not a solar event; from the air he breathes driven by air currents driven by the sun or the food he eats daily. It is precisely the sun and earth, entering into relationship, that gave birth to biological life leading to Brian Swimme’s imagination and thoughts. I think that is Brian’s whole point, there is a rippling effect that brings on almost endless forms of expressions of the psychic dimensions of the universe. The sun itself is but one form of that expression. To say “It is the human brain that is source of the inspiration” appears to be a desperate act of anthropomorphism in trying to keep the human, along with our thoughts and perceptions, as the center of the universe. I sense that that habit is driven by the fear of making us feel we are insignificant in relation to vastness of it all. But the salvation lies in transcending from our anthropocentric perspective to one where we see our selves as anthropocosmic. Yes, we are humans, but we are much more than that. Peace,
Brian Swimme isn’t only a brillant creative thinker but a marvellous human being.
I am an absolute fan of Brian Swimme since the 1990s! He is right on target 🎯 with his knowledge and insights😇 Thank you both for this interview and posting on RUclips!❤
Consciousness and matter develop simultaneously☯️, with and for each other, so humans may understand TRUE LOVE with its own AND what it feels like with its own heart. Brains and Hearts must be connected in order to BECOME A TRUE HUMAN BEING! Thank you, Dr. Swimme, for setting me on the right path with your audiobook “Canticle to the Cosmos”! 🌟
An incredible thinker and brilliant author. Love Cosmogensis! Keep the insights coming. Inspired.
Great episode, eye opening. Thanks. 👏🏻
This book needs to be available in as many formats as possible. Some of us are not efficient readers. I have looked for an audio edition of Cosmgenesis. There doesn't seem to be one. Here's hoping there will be one sooner than later. It's a tool to help us see better into both past and future, not to mention clarifying the present.
28:20. It sounds to me like humanity is becoming conscious of its own sacred dimension within a Sacred Universe. So exciting to be alive at this moment in time as we enter this new dimension consciously🤩
I just paused to think at your suggestion at the beginning your your interview and would like to say the following:
1. I just received Brian Swimme’s book *Cosmogenesis* and can’t wait to start reading it!
2. Since listening to his *Canticle to the Cosmos* audio cassette series in 1995, he said, each one of us has but one task to perform in life: IDENTIFY WHO YOU ARE!
3. If I had to answer this question today, the answer is: I am just one little water droplet 💧 with a spark tiny spark⚡️ inside of me.
4. If my drop 💧⚡️ enables this vast pool of knowledge to start swinging into CONSCIOUS LIFE , then my mission on earth is complete.
5. May all of Heaven rejoice as each little human droplet join as ONE 💧and swing in rhythm in the WATER OF LIFE the ONE word at the beginning of Creation: HALLELUJAH❣️🙏
I ache to examine his bookcase! What a fascinating treat it would be. And such a wonderful interview! Thank you.
Amazing episode , thanks for this 💜
What a wholesome sense of the world. Very inspiring.
Thanks for this interview. I continue to construct my own understanding of the third story.
What a guy
this is fantastic thank you!
Mind blowing!
The most difficult "issue" for humans to comprehend is the natural selection and evolution process of Homo sapien over millions of years living here on earth. The chimp looks up in the sky and feels awe-struck but does not develop physics, or astro-physics or cosmology. Why? Because s/he doesn't have to. Remember: in a face to face wrestling match between our best human and the chimp's best fighter, the chimp wins hands down. He rips the human to shreds: just too muscular. So even with a 99% similarity of genes, the chimp is king of the hill as far as physical prowess goes. So what the human had to do was to find another hill. Our niche, over millions of years of evolution becomes our ability to manipulate our environment through highly developed cognitive skills, compensating for our lack of pure physical muscularity. The non-human primates didn't have to engage his brain further because he was physically superior to us humans. It was we humans who had to develop "higher" cognitive capabilities because we had to. It was we humans that had to and we did, over millions of years. So as much as all primates may feel awe-struck when looking out at the cosmos observing the twinkling stars, it was the human who, over millions of years, learned to be inspired by such a celestial sight so as to be motivated to develop our math (especially geometry), physics and optics (to build telescopes which served as a "power-eye".) This gift of creating astronomy, physics, astro-physics, and cosmology was an outgrowth of the human's need to control our environment through math and precise tool-making all of which took millions of years to develop the skills to do so. This is the truly awesome point to ponder: from the chiseling of arrow-heads to the construction of the James Webb Telescope, we have come a long way in being able to apply our brain to the development of math, science, tech, tools etc. to build such a telescope which is truly a human "power eye" into the deep deep universe, the concept of which we, also, in effect, have created. Yes, our brain creates human reality, including the concept of a "universe". Yes: the human brain creates reality in all its details and definitions. And Dr. Professor Brian Swimme reminds us that we as humans also need a strong dose of inspiration to excite our heart and fire-up our brain to continue to "tell the story" to inspire kids to grow up to devote their lives to the study of science and technology to build yet more sophisticated versions of the James Webb Telescope and spaceships to take us to far-away places.
Consciousness and matter are one and the same since both originate from the big bang. Everything comes from what was created from the big bang except there are variations.
This comment must be separate from my previous one to react to Dr. Swimme's story about when he was a professor and one of his students came up to him and said she was changing her major from music to physics. Now we learn that this girl had already devoted 10 years to her career as musician and a student of music. And Dr. Swimme was concerned that somehow he had disrupted her career-track. I beg to differ. First to consider is that this girl will always have her music (like Einstein had his violin and involvement in playing chamber music). And then when Dr. Swimme flashes back to his time as a 4 yr old in Lakewood, Washington, up in his "high" bedroom, looking out the window and being inspired by the night sky, as if the Universe was talking to him. I must take issue. There may have been in the ancient pre-literate history of humans, as told by a gifted shaman, a concept that the sun, the moon, the mountains and the trees, the sea and indeed the stars twinkling into our hearts at night, was an instance to attribute god-like powers to these bigger, higher, and vaster visual experiences as if these awesome images had separate souls and were actually talking to us, whereas it was our own mind which was talking to itself. Transformation: this ability of the brain to talk to itself, to inspire itself. This may be the key word to use. There is no "god-like" power of the sun as if it were Zeus. How so? Human evolution, over millions of years, somehow transformed human thinking from its animistic perspective, to one that clearly implies that we have developed the capacity through biological evolution to be inspired by what we see around us. It is the human brain which is the source of the inspiration. True, without the sun, we would not have life on earth (as we know it). But we also learn that it is the human brain capacity to build our science and technology to harness the powers of the sun, which is truly the object of our inspiration and motivation to act. A decision to make? Yes! And the teacher compels us to decide to act to create, in all human fields, from music and dance to science and technology. Somehow the human species has become fine-tuned to pulsate energy of inspiration which can and does motivate us to study hard, observe deeply and persevere patiently to build our world, which includes the James Webb Telescope. So what is my point? My point is that it is Professor Brian Swimme to whom we owe a debt of gratitude, not the sun, or the moon, or the vast expanse of beautiful twinkling cosmos. It is the efforts of Brian Swimme to put together and continue to refine his story of what life is all about to him which will inspire his students to pursue the study of science and create new tools to explore our world with greater and greater detail and precision. Why is this important, philosophically? Because it puts the responsibility squarely on the backs of the human to inspire: teacher to student, mentor to musician, throughout the generations. It is not the sun which has the power to inspire. It is the spark of humanity shared by the teacher/mentor which motivates the student to get off his/her backside and work hard to create new science and tech to further expand our world. This is the language of the human: to recognize the signals to act, to make "transformtional" decisions. Yes, we have to realize how important, how valuable teachers are, from our kindergarten years through our graduate school days and beyond, in inspiring us and motivating us to "break our brains" till it hurts to make a deep dive into the science and tech which we have to build yet further layers of understanding and capability to manipulate our environment (like cleaning up the pollution we make). This is the message of this podcast: the veneration of the teacher. And Professor Swimme's student who "changed" her major? She is so happy to have learned her music and derived pleasure from it. Now she takes this positive energy and applies it to her study of physics. The love of music and the precision of physics go together to create yet another wave of inspiration and motivation for kids, generation after generation, to learn the story of this music to physics girl and be delighted to follow their own course to learn to participate in the human culture of science, tech and the humanities. For the first experience we have is the memory of our mother singing to us her sweet song of joy, as we are nursing at her breast: totally nourished by her caring: heart and soul, fused.
I beg to differ. There is not a single event in Brian Swimme’s life (or for that matter all our lives) that is not a solar event; from the air he breathes driven by air currents driven by the sun or the food he eats daily. It is precisely the sun and earth, entering into relationship, that gave birth to biological life leading to Brian Swimme’s imagination and thoughts. I think that is Brian’s whole point, there is a rippling effect that brings on almost endless forms of expressions of the psychic dimensions of the universe. The sun itself is but one form of that expression. To say “It is the human brain that is source of the inspiration” appears to be a desperate act of anthropomorphism in trying to keep the human, along with our thoughts and perceptions, as the center of the universe. I sense that that habit is driven by the fear of making us feel we are insignificant in relation to vastness of it all. But the salvation lies in transcending from our anthropocentric perspective to one where we see our selves as anthropocosmic. Yes, we are humans, but we are much more than that. Peace,