Wonderful episode. Thank you very much. So fascinating about Lebedev, sad that his style was throttled by Stalin's regime. Joyce Mercer another discovery gold nugget. Always appreciating your educational series.
Love this series! Obviously, a lot of time and passion has been put into research. Along with the presentation make these a valuable historical series.
It's a funny thing but when it comes to painted representational illustration America has always had by far the biggest share of great talents. In Europe and Britain you can count them on both hands. Glad you enjoyed it.
I just wanted to thank you for this series of videos. I started watching them a couple of weeks ago and they are a true joy. I also appreciate your clean, calm, and simple presentation.
He certainly does. Every time I make a video featuring one of the american realists (and there are still plenty to put in the spotlight) I wonder how such skill and talent can go ignored
As I listen to the difficulty you run into in nailing down some details like publishing dates and the like, I wonder how often you run across an illustration that is unattributed but that you feel confident stylistically can be attributed to a particular illustrator. I imagine this is rare, as I sense from watching that for certain time periods a certain style holds sway, so that much of one body of work resembles others. And maybe unattributed illustration is largely unheard of. Agorithm fed, keep up the great effort, love your voice and the background music--soothing, very soothing. =)
Hello and thanks as usual for your appreciation. And in this case your question about attribution. It's one of several bear traps in the research process that drive me to distraction. In the past I have taken 'educated' guesses which subsequently proved to be incorrect and these days if I'm in doubt I leave the picture out. The internet is great but incorrect attribution, and incorrect dates of publication abound. My favourite illustrators are the ones who sign and date their work - it's the only way to be really sure. Still, I like a challenge...
Another gem. All of your videos grant us a narrow but revealing glimpse of the greater cultural and political realities of the artists' times and places, but this episode particularly so. Kudos. cheers again from sunny Vienna, Scott
Thank you for another very enjoyable art history lesson, Pete. I learn more watching your videos on this subject than I ever did way back in school. Looking forward to your next one.
Hi John At art school I was lucky and had just one tutor who enlightened me about many great illustrators. Maybe this is me trying to pay him back. Thanks for watching
Hello and many thanks for your appreciation of my work on the channel As long as I remain healthy (who knows?) I will keep making these videos. I still have hundreds more subjects.
Thank you for this once again. Joyce Mercer. Great to have for me a new name to research. As is often the case you present images which spark of long forgotten memories. I would have guessed Vernon Grant looking at them. It is so nice in this digital age to quickly be able to further investigate these artists after seeing your presentation. Keep up the great work.
Hello Steve Are you psychic by any chance? Vernon Grant was the illustrator I decided to leave out of this video and reposition in another. Psychic or not what are the odds? And thanks for your continued enthusiasm Pete
Those Lebedev examples are brilliant. Sometimes I try to make photography go that way too! Also enjoyed the Mercer though I don't consciously recall encountering them as a child. It is a strange thing about art and related design education in the late 40's and early 50's that there was minimal consciousness of historical background. We were all so intent on going our own way into a new and different world - we hoped.
Hello again, and I thought I'd already replied to your comment but RUclips seems to differ. So in case they're right I just wanted to say that it's probably just us two who rate Lebedev. He doesn't get the credit he deserves. And Mercer was comppletely unknown to me until I started making the videos. Thanks as ever for your support.
great video , I just picked up the book the art of dean cornwell and am enjoying it alot. I also got myself a birthday gift of "the lost art of fortunino matania" based on my discovery of his amazing works through your videos!
I'm very pleased to get to Joyce Mercer at last. She made a big impression in me as a nipper in the 50s, and was a big influence on my artwork. I first met her in two books that had belonged to my mother as a girl: The Children's Golden Treasure Book For 1938, and ditto for 1939. The second one has all the illustrators named in the contents pages, along with the authors, but not the first. Some of the illustrators were -- to my infant eye, and still to my grown-up eye -- pedestrian and merely adequate, but others were joys to behold. Some worthy names: S G Hulme Beaman, who illustrated his own John Trusty stories with curious but effective wooden-toy characters; Anne Anderson, often just A.A.; Alfred E Kerr; Roth (no first name); E Robinson; Jack Matthew; C Jackson; Winifred M Ackroyd; and one who signed only with a monogram, an M with the second span crossed like an A -- could this be Norman Anton? (In which case it's a combined N+A, not an M.) I expect I'll meet some of these names again as I follow your other videos, for which thank you again.
Hello Steve, and join the club regarding memory. I was unaware of Joyce mercer until I started making the videos, probably because I almost exclusively read comics rather than books as a kid. And actually most of the names you mention I'm unfamiliar with too, so some digging will be done on my part. I have already discounted Beaman on the grounds that there's just not enough good quality imagery to be had, and I think Anne Andersen is waiting in line. Or maybe she's been done. The rest I will pursue and thanks.
Just remembered another name: Alfred E. Kerr. I tried searching RUclips to see if you'd covered him anywhere, but all I got was Alfred E Neuman and Judith Kerr. (And I'm a fan of both, but it's not what I wanted!)
@@Gentleman_Songster Hello again, and I have found him via google - another I'd never heard of, but that's hardly surprising as there's the briefest possible biography and only a handful of poor resolution images. And it's been a similar story with the other names you put forward, and so many others I've encountered along the way. It's frustrating but I have learned to be 'glass half full' in terms of what there is to be found in at least a bit more abundance. Thanks for trying anyway - it's appreciated.
Hello and when I first included him I had no idea I would be revisiting some at greater length. I'll see what more I can find and if possible add him to the ever-lengthening list.
Hi again, and thanks for these comments. When your channel is tiny like mine it really does mean a lot that those who do watch actually like the content.
*Thanks* for another very good presentation. 8:51 dunno why, Dean Stockwell's image is mesmerizing. Whelter because the white areas form a neanderthal 💀 with the gunner and cannon blending into a beast overlooking the burning city and people but for a propaganda piece its more of a Guernica statement.* Charles LeAndre ain't too shabby either. Both representational styles balance the more stylized illustrators. Your characteristic signature throughout the series. Damn good 😁 work * 9:38 also, although a patriotic piece simultaneously it shows the resulting smoke pollution and environmental damage. Suspect his work has multiple layers of meaning. Appreciate you're re-introducing him and a vast array of illustrators to the forefront again.
Hello again. I couldn't for the life of me recall a Dean Stockwell I'd featured, although the name rang a bell. Cornwell was the illustrator - Stockwell was a creepy U.S. actor who appeared in Blue Velvet, which was why I thought the name was familiar. Either way your observations are always appreciated.
Hello & Thank you Synapses misfiring (Dean Stockwell was comical in "Married to the Mob" a film by Jonathan Demme who's "Silence of the Lamb" approaches David Lynch's "Blue Velvet" 😱 )
Thanks for this series. I'm really enjoying it. There are so many illustrators I'd never heard of. Just out of curiosity, I don't suppose you would do something about British comic book illustrators? As a comics fan (and small press/self publishing artist) who is in touch with others from the USA, I find that there are so many great British (and continental) comic artists that they've never heard of. It would be nice to have a resource to point them to. Just a thought. Thanks again for all your hard work. It really shows. Please keep up the great work.
Hello and thanks a lot for the comment. It's great to be appreciated by viewers. I'm unsure whether you mean contemporary or from the past so I hope my answer covers all the bases. If you mean those working now I'm afraid I don't cover those who are still breathing - it's my achilles heel in terms of knowledge. And in general I know next to nothing about comic art when it comes to the more representational superhero type of thing. But quite a few of my videos have featured (if only in passing) some earlier exponents from Europe, and there is a 4 part series on cartoons on the channel. Sorry I can't be more helpful. I haven't checked but surely there are many blogs on the topic online?
@@petebeard Thanks for getting back. I was thinking of artists from the past like maybe Frank Hampson, Don Lawrence, Frank Bellamy, etc. Although, maybe your videos would suit the lesser known ones like Frank Humphris, who drew the 'Riders of the range' strip in 'Eagle', or even Bob Monkhouse who drew 'The Tornado' in 'Oh Boy' comic, among other things. I have a couple of books by Denis Gifford but I wouldn't know where to start looking for blogs. I think they would prefer something more visual. Don't suppose you know of anyone doing that sort of stuff on RUclips or vimeo or something would you? Thanks again.
Hello again and a quick search on youtube reveals nothing of any interest as far as I can tell. I'm sure there's some stuff of the kind you mention to be found at- lewstringerblogspot.com. and britishcomics.wordpress.com. All I can add is that I had the pleasure of teaching Frank Hampson's immensely talented grand daughter a few years back. She had little to no interest in his work.
Thank you again and again Mr. Beard... Do you have an Instagram account? if not, please make one, so we can share the announcement of your new videos there! thanks! :)
And thank you for your continued support. I appreciate the instagram suggestion but at the risk of getting laughed at I'm an old man and generally hostile to social networks and the like - truth is I don't even know what instagram is or how it works.You must have heard the expression about old dogs and new tricks?
i Juz recently found your site, with much delite. mom & frins artists all so. i did 15 yrs life drawing model for art classes. Richard Eredos & wife all so maybe in your collection. mom introduced him to our Lakota kin for his several books, n he taught me to draw like this, his wife known more as illistrator, he photographer so i got into since. he helped Zuess, come over to my house art, last Movie was Lakota Woman. tell me if a bio is on him. i got books an memories, but not think a bio out of his works.
Hello and thanks for watching. I had never heard of Richard Erdeos until now so I don't know if there is any kind of biography available. But if I can find out enough about him I will see if I can feature his work in a later video.
@@petebeard Thanks Pete I'll check him out :) I'm actually working on a University project that revolves around one of Dean's sketches of a Boy with a Jug, so have been scouring the internet for information & books on Cornwell. It's been more challenging than anticipated :I
Wonderful episode. Thank you very much. So fascinating about Lebedev, sad that his style was throttled by Stalin's regime. Joyce Mercer another discovery gold nugget. Always appreciating your educational series.
I am systematically going to watch every one of your videos.. Really Thank You Soo Much ! What an education I'm getting
Thanks for liking and your mission to watch the lot is music to my ears.
Once more i am astounded by the quality of these forgotten gems .
Hello and thanks as ever. I'm really pleased that some viewers seem to be with the channel for the long haul.
Pete, thanks for pulling all this together...so many of these great men would've been forgotten.
Hello and thanks a lot for your appreciative comment.
Love this series! Obviously, a lot of time and passion has been put into research. Along with the presentation make these a valuable historical series.
Thanks - that's music to my ears and it's for viewers such as yourself that I make the videos
I love these episodes with very different styles from each other. I took several screenshots. Loved Mercer. Thanks!
Thanks again, Pete, especially for Dean Cornwell! What an amazing artist!
It's a funny thing but when it comes to painted representational illustration America has always had by far the biggest share of great talents. In Europe and Britain you can count them on both hands. Glad you enjoyed it.
Ahhh the joy I have recently been given by having a look at these so nice things of yours. Thank you Mr. Beard.
Hello and many thanks for your appreciation. I'm glad you enjoy the channel.
I just wanted to thank you for this series of videos. I started watching them a couple of weeks ago and they are a true joy. I also appreciate your clean, calm, and simple presentation.
Hello to you and thanks a lot for your kind comment. I hope you'll keep watching.
Charming, informative and as always excellent, thank you.
Hello and thanks a lot again
More wonderful insights into 'forgotten' artists. Keep up the good work Pete.
Thank you - such an interesting selection of illustrators - a feast for the eyes ~
Much appreciated - if nothing else I like to think they are diverse stylistic choices and collections.
Dean Cornwell definitely gets overlooked.
He certainly does. Every time I make a video featuring one of the american realists (and there are still plenty to put in the spotlight) I wonder how such skill and talent can go ignored
There's something about war time propaganda posters/art work that I really enjoy. Thanks for another great presentation.
Yes, me too. Maybe its the bizarre collision of good (art) and evil (war). Probably best not to analyse, just enjoy. Thanks for watching
Pete
As I listen to the difficulty you run into in nailing down some details like publishing dates and the like, I wonder how often you run across an illustration that is unattributed but that you feel confident stylistically can be attributed to a particular illustrator. I imagine this is rare, as I sense from watching that for certain time periods a certain style holds sway, so that much of one body of work resembles others. And maybe unattributed illustration is largely unheard of. Agorithm fed, keep up the great effort, love your voice and the background music--soothing, very soothing. =)
Hello and thanks as usual for your appreciation. And in this case your question about attribution. It's one of several bear traps in the research process that drive me to distraction. In the past I have taken 'educated' guesses which subsequently proved to be incorrect and these days if I'm in doubt I leave the picture out. The internet is great but incorrect attribution, and incorrect dates of publication abound. My favourite illustrators are the ones who sign and date their work - it's the only way to be really sure. Still, I like a challenge...
Another gem. All of your videos grant us a narrow but revealing glimpse of the greater cultural and political realities of the artists' times and places, but this episode particularly so. Kudos.
cheers again from sunny Vienna, Scott
...and another big thanks from me.
Thank you for another very enjoyable art history lesson, Pete. I learn more watching your videos on this subject than I ever did way back in school. Looking forward to your next one.
Hi John
At art school I was lucky and had just one tutor who enlightened me about many great illustrators. Maybe this is me trying to pay him back. Thanks for watching
@@petebeard You definitely make it enjoyable!
Love your documentary and your voice. Great narrator… please create more 😊
Hello and many thanks for your appreciation of my work on the channel As long as I remain healthy (who knows?) I will keep making these videos. I still have hundreds more subjects.
Thank you for this once again. Joyce Mercer. Great to have for me a new name to research. As is often the case you present images which spark of long forgotten memories. I would have guessed Vernon Grant looking at them. It is so nice in this digital age to quickly be able to further investigate these artists after seeing your presentation. Keep up the great work.
Hello Steve
Are you psychic by any chance? Vernon Grant was the illustrator I decided to leave out of this video and reposition in another. Psychic or not what are the odds?
And thanks for your continued enthusiasm
Pete
I've spent a good deal of time in libraries and bookstores bumming through old magazines and I've seen Cornwell's work! Very memorable!
Hi again and thanks for continuing to watch. Still many more to come including some of your suggestions.
Yaas! Thanks Pete!
Those Lebedev examples are brilliant. Sometimes I try to make photography go that way too! Also enjoyed the Mercer though I don't consciously recall encountering them as a child. It is a strange thing about art and related design education in the late 40's and early 50's that there was minimal consciousness of historical background. We were all so intent on going our own way into a new and different world - we hoped.
Hello again, and I thought I'd already replied to your comment but RUclips seems to differ. So in case they're right I just wanted to say that it's probably just us two who rate Lebedev. He doesn't get the credit he deserves. And Mercer was comppletely unknown to me until I started making the videos. Thanks as ever for your support.
great video , I just picked up the book the art of dean cornwell and am enjoying it alot. I also got myself a birthday gift of "the lost art of fortunino matania" based on my discovery of his amazing works through your videos!
Hi there and it's very satisfying that viewers like you are getting deeper into some of the people I've shown. Thanks
Great job👍🏻
I'm very pleased to get to Joyce Mercer at last. She made a big impression in me as a nipper in the 50s, and was a big influence on my artwork. I first met her in two books that had belonged to my mother as a girl: The Children's Golden Treasure Book For 1938, and ditto for 1939. The second one has all the illustrators named in the contents pages, along with the authors, but not the first.
Some of the illustrators were -- to my infant eye, and still to my grown-up eye -- pedestrian and merely adequate, but others were joys to behold. Some worthy names: S G Hulme Beaman, who illustrated his own John Trusty stories with curious but effective wooden-toy characters; Anne Anderson, often just A.A.; Alfred E Kerr; Roth (no first name); E Robinson; Jack Matthew; C Jackson; Winifred M Ackroyd; and one who signed only with a monogram, an M with the second span crossed like an A -- could this be Norman Anton? (In which case it's a combined N+A, not an M.)
I expect I'll meet some of these names again as I follow your other videos, for which thank you again.
In fact, it occurs to me, I might have met one or two already and forgotten. My memory isn't what it was!
Hello Steve, and join the club regarding memory. I was unaware of Joyce mercer until I started making the videos, probably because I almost exclusively read comics rather than books as a kid. And actually most of the names you mention I'm unfamiliar with too, so some digging will be done on my part. I have already discounted Beaman on the grounds that there's just not enough good quality imagery to be had, and I think Anne Andersen is waiting in line. Or maybe she's been done. The rest I will pursue and thanks.
Just remembered another name: Alfred E. Kerr. I tried searching RUclips to see if you'd covered him anywhere, but all I got was Alfred E Neuman and Judith Kerr. (And I'm a fan of both, but it's not what I wanted!)
@@Gentleman_Songster Hello again, and I have found him via google - another I'd never heard of, but that's hardly surprising as there's the briefest possible biography and only a handful of poor resolution images. And it's been a similar story with the other names you put forward, and so many others I've encountered along the way. It's frustrating but I have learned to be 'glass half full' in terms of what there is to be found in at least a bit more abundance. Thanks for trying anyway - it's appreciated.
I'm surprised you haven't dedicated a whole episode to Dean Cornwell yet!
Hello and when I first included him I had no idea I would be revisiting some at greater length. I'll see what more I can find and if possible add him to the ever-lengthening list.
Another stellar video.
Hi again, and thanks for these comments. When your channel is tiny like mine it really does mean a lot that those who do watch actually like the content.
*Thanks* for another very good presentation.
8:51 dunno why, Dean Stockwell's image is mesmerizing. Whelter because the white areas form a neanderthal 💀 with the gunner and cannon blending into a beast overlooking the burning city and people but for a propaganda piece its more of a Guernica statement.*
Charles LeAndre ain't too shabby either. Both representational styles balance the more stylized illustrators. Your characteristic signature throughout the series.
Damn good 😁 work
* 9:38 also, although a patriotic piece simultaneously it shows the resulting smoke pollution and environmental damage. Suspect his work has multiple layers of meaning. Appreciate you're re-introducing him and a vast array of illustrators to the forefront again.
Hello again. I couldn't for the life of me recall a Dean Stockwell I'd featured, although the name rang a bell. Cornwell was the illustrator - Stockwell was a creepy U.S. actor who appeared in Blue Velvet, which was why I thought the name was familiar. Either way your observations are always appreciated.
Hello & Thank you
Synapses misfiring
(Dean Stockwell was comical in "Married to the Mob" a film by Jonathan Demme who's "Silence of the Lamb" approaches David Lynch's "Blue Velvet" 😱 )
Thanks for this series. I'm really enjoying it. There are so many illustrators I'd never heard of. Just out of curiosity, I don't suppose you would do something about British comic book illustrators? As a comics fan (and small press/self publishing artist) who is in touch with others from the USA, I find that there are so many great British (and continental) comic artists that they've never heard of. It would be nice to have a resource to point them to. Just a thought. Thanks again for all your hard work. It really shows. Please keep up the great work.
Hello and thanks a lot for the comment. It's great to be appreciated by viewers. I'm unsure whether you mean contemporary or from the past so I hope my answer covers all the bases. If you mean those working now I'm afraid I don't cover those who are still breathing - it's my achilles heel in terms of knowledge. And in general I know next to nothing about comic art when it comes to the more representational superhero type of thing. But quite a few of my videos have featured (if only in passing) some earlier exponents from Europe, and there is a 4 part series on cartoons on the channel.
Sorry I can't be more helpful. I haven't checked but surely there are many blogs on the topic online?
@@petebeard Thanks for getting back. I was thinking of artists from the past like maybe Frank Hampson, Don Lawrence, Frank Bellamy, etc. Although, maybe your videos would suit the lesser known ones like Frank Humphris, who drew the 'Riders of the range' strip in 'Eagle', or even Bob Monkhouse who drew 'The Tornado' in 'Oh Boy' comic, among other things. I have a couple of books by Denis Gifford but I wouldn't know where to start looking for blogs. I think they would prefer something more visual. Don't suppose you know of anyone doing that sort of stuff on RUclips or vimeo or something would you? Thanks again.
Hello again and a quick search on youtube reveals nothing of any interest as far as I can tell. I'm sure there's some stuff of the kind you mention to be found at-
lewstringerblogspot.com. and britishcomics.wordpress.com. All I can add is that I had the pleasure of teaching Frank Hampson's immensely talented grand daughter a few years back. She had little to no interest in his work.
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Great work
Thanks a lot for liking.
Great video s thanks
Hello again and I have to say your dedication to letting me know your approval for the work is very rewarding. Thanks so much.
Bravo!
Hi and thanks.
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3:29 Vladimir Lebedev
0:27 Charles Léandre
6:53 Dean Cornwall
Very nice. See you later.
Hello and thanks a lot for the comment.
Thank you again and again Mr. Beard...
Do you have an Instagram account?
if not, please make one, so we can share the announcement of your new videos there! thanks! :)
And thank you for your continued support. I appreciate the instagram suggestion but at the risk of getting laughed at I'm an old man and generally hostile to social networks and the like - truth is I don't even know what instagram is or how it works.You must have heard the expression about old dogs and new tricks?
10:23 Joyce Mercer
i Juz recently found your site, with much delite. mom & frins artists all so. i did 15 yrs life drawing model for art classes. Richard Eredos & wife all so maybe in your collection. mom introduced him to our Lakota kin for his several books, n he taught me to draw like this, his wife known more as illistrator, he photographer so i got into since. he helped Zuess, come over to my house art, last Movie was Lakota Woman. tell me if a bio is on him. i got books an memories, but not think a bio out of his works.
Hello and thanks for watching. I had never heard of Richard Erdeos until now so I don't know if there is any kind of biography available. But if I can find out enough about him I will see if I can feature his work in a later video.
Dean Cornwell: 6:50
Hello and if you haven't already seen it you will probably like Mead Schaeffer in unsung heroes 17 too.
@@petebeard Thanks Pete I'll check him out :)
I'm actually working on a University project that revolves around one of Dean's sketches of a Boy with a Jug, so have been scouring the internet for information & books on Cornwell.
It's been more challenging than anticipated :I