Number of people living in RVs in Vernon grows
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2022
- Complaints are piling up in Vernon about the number of RVs parked on city streets. Housing advocates say it's just another sign of the growing affordability and housing crisis in the North Okanagan.
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I have been living in a RV now for 5 years, the rent is way too high and disability just isn't enough. I have been living at RV parks on and off. And even the RV parks are too much. What Canada needs to do is follow Finland, put housing for its citizen's FIRST! People need a home FIRST before they can deal with other issues like addiction, mental health and a job. Can get a job if you have no place to call home. I have been turned down numerous times for a job because I didn't have an address to show potential employers that I would be a stable employee. Do you know an employer who would hire a homeless person? If so send then send them my way, I want to work!
Wise man. Respect you sir. We live in RV park 750 a month rent in Tsawwassen. RV life is great. We refuse to live in city like a sheep. Wait till canada collapses and we will. It's getting ugly. Government just lied and fed sheep inflation 7.5 % it's way higher. We can not even trust numbers from government. Government are our enemy. Stay safe fellow RV freedom fighters
I have a self storage unit. They offer mailboxes with a real address rather than a PO Box. UPS also offers that.
@John Brower this commenter was literally ASKING who was hiring. He could be immensely grateful for any and all pointers that could lead to a job, because he genuinely doesn’t know any. You don’t know him or anything about his circumstances, you’d just rather make insulting assumptions about people.
@John BrowerBrower People like me. I have left Vancouver and have been clean from heroin now for 7 years. And now run my own Bookkeeping business. So before you make judgements on people you should get to know them first.
Finland also has a very tough immigration system, Canada needs to start with that before handing out more free money, driving up inflation and more homelessness. LoL Finland
Basements are 2thousand dollars two bedroom .how can anyone afford. Govt should do something about rental situation
Greedy landlords yes. Greed. GOVERNMENT are the problem
It's called supply and demand. Your Justin is bringing in another 500,000 to compete for housing. Talk to him.
All by design
It's a sheep show of cowards 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑 compete with Joneses you BRAINWASHED sheep. Spineless indeed. Run for booster ya a ya
it's criminal the way rents have been increasing here in North America - Poor getting poorer and the rich despately trying to hang onto the same profit margins.
But you keep voting for Justin and the ndp.
@The Real Jeffery Of Sky
Sounds good,
But who's gonna build them?
@The Real Jeffery Of Sky it's not quite that simple, presently there is a shortage of the trades people you'd need to embark on a massive project like that. And it will get worse as there are less and less younger people going into them. So as the many in the trades now age out there won't be enough to replace them let alone increase the numbers.
Then there's the cost, who's gonna pay for it.
We certainly need more affordable housing but it's not an easy fix.
For starters places the RV dwellers could go with out being harassed and out of sight of the more fortunate and less compassionate.
These would have to be government owned and subsidizes to keep them affordable for those that need them. There would be problems I'm sure but it's a start.
Government subsidized housing on a massive scale would be next.
They did it along time ago in what was the USSR , that's why there are so many huge apartment complexs in Russia now.
But the shortage of trades people would need to be solved to do that.
I'd blame those Chinamen with the money Trudeau is bringing to Canada by thousands per day
@@bardakabrama5825 I'd blame Trudeau, particularly for allowing offshore investments into the real estate market. Which drives up the prices of realestate which in turn drives up rents.
With over 1/4 million suffering homelessness in Canada yearly... wth!
We have it here in NYC.
Very sad and unfair situation
Now there shipping homeless people to other city's in BC.. how screwed is this!
Keep voting for fancy socks!
I own my own house. I’m one of the lucky millennials able to afford a single detached home in Vancouver. But I spend 60% of my income on my mortgage. But it’s not like rents are cheap either lol Not much left for anything else after paying the mortgage. We have an affordability crisis.
Bloody nuts. I remember talking to a fisherman who said he had a really good season in the early seventies, paid cash for a house in East Van after that one good season. **** me.
Then move to where it is affordable ie Alberta.
One thing I love about our millennial generation is we're more sympathetic and aware of how privileged we are even though compared to boomers we were screwed. We can at least see when we've had it easier than others and to not treat others the way boomers and many Gen X do.
Most rentals are managed by companies out of USA and they want high rent and you need 3 times the rent as income before they will even look at you
Such bs people are struggling like this, I’m in Kelowna and it’s no better. If governments and wealthy individuals were not so greedy maybe people could actually have a life
Greed didn't cause this inflation.
@@roryb.bellows4026 Yes it did. The largest transfer of wealth in human history, and every major corporation on the planet has their profits going through the roof. Thats EXACTLY what has caused this so called inflation
I wonder if some of them are mobile enough to move out of that extreme heat, if they’re not holding down a job. Going where it’s crowded will be noticed by city councils and prompt bylaws that are prohibitive.
the same problem exists all over the province RVs not welcome. Also there is a province wide housing crisis. And the summers are hot and the winters blisteringly cold
@The Real Jeffery Of Sky it would definitely not be feasible for everybody
Better than a tent on the sidewalk like here in ontario I see..tons of parks out west. Tons places to get green space. Wash in the rivers & community centers. Gas stations. A pot & water in your r.v. many r.v are self contained. Lots dumping stations out there. Get creative with cooking & eat raw it's better anyway. Many in an apartment would love a garden too. Vernon's area is beautiful. Try downtown Toronto. Then cry about it
That’s what happens when the province gives red carpet to foreign investors
What did people think would happen ? Sky high rents ⁉️ Even if can afford the rents , would be stupid to pay 💰
Its all how you look at it. I have lived in my van and love it! I live in a 20 trailer and love it! Who says you need a home to be happy. There are many worse off than us. You have food and shelter. How you look at life is up to you.Joy is an inside job.
I'm ready to take my life on the road( the only worries I have are security and safety) how making a new rig look old an not worth the bother with a couple of large breed dogs, two or three stun guns and a secure metal door with security surrounding perimeter from animals on four legs or two!!
@@ziggyustar3137: I've done it....don't.
@@giuseppenero110 I do love my gated yard with 6 foot fence and neighbours I know 🤫
Were dying out here, 60 years old cant afford the rent, thank you Canada for forgetting us after we paid taxes our whole life.
The rent in Greater Vancouver is ridiculous. The RV parks if there is any also charge shy high lot fees.
I was in this space in 2015 when my husband passed. At that time, this wasn’t an issue. But it will only get worse. I am now in a small Bachelor apt. And feel lucky to have this. I wish the Small house Community would be an Alternative. Little space used, well kept up. And to own a little home without the massive taxes . Why are so many cities and towns and the Governments not looking at these options?
If the area is going to keep lighting on fire doesn't it make sense for the homes to be mobile?
Housing is essential. Like food and water. Stop profiting over it. It's time to make more land available for housing.
Cities will always find more land. Urban sprawl is a huge issue. The developers, the banks and city hall are all happy.
Yes but it's a personal responsibility. Go to Cuba to see what it looks like as a 'right'.
Just read a story about a couple that’s being fined for living in an RV on their own property, because they cannot find housing. Ridiculous politicians.
We’re up In Clearwater BC we can offer them a RV spot to stay . How do we get in touch with them
The RV's will soon turn into tents and then the problem will be harder to move. Just look at Vancouver's tent city problems, they want those people to move as well but they have no place to go. I said it before and I'll say it again, there needs to be land designated for the homeless or you can just continue going in circles like you have been for decades now and the homeless problem is not going away.
Why in the big city ? why not Hedley or Enderby or Keremeos ? You can’t expect to get free homesteading in a major urban area.
I’m sorry is vernon really considered a “big city”?
they are not welcome there either. In some regional districts it is illegal to live in an RV even if you own the land you are parked on
you're going to get noticed REAL FAST in those small towns. you need a degree of privacy.
Kamloops is the same
The elephant in the room is adding 500k new residents per year. How is that affecting healthcare and housing?
Put a cap on how much rent can be.
Dont be embarrassed. Its my new dream for my small family. Husband, wife and child, mini poodle. I want to get a pad though. Small wood stove. Try to save money to build a house in Mexico. Too expensive to rent.
Campsites need funding to house those who live on the roads of Vernon/
Justin.
Dont look for work.
Just say the government needs to do something!
Sit back and wait.
See how that works out for you.
Please excuse me.
I'm gonna go enjoy my ribeye and a glass of red wine.
Joie de vivre!
@The Real Jeffery Of Sky
In the time it took you to write your reply, I made another $1000.
BOOM
Anyone living in a city has to pay property tax. No free parking! Here in Vancouver these RVs dump their sewage into our storm sewers. Not good.
I'm sorry people struggling to survive is such a inconvenience for you. I'm you'll be okay though.
It's not embarrassing man, anyone who's had to earn everything they've had in life and had no privilege in life are not looking down on you at all. We get it and we know how hard it is. It's only silver spoon people or people who had help from family in any way that look down at people as they're unaware of how hard it is without help.
People for centuries have moved for work.
Then moved again.
Then again.
Vernon (I almost moved there) is a small enough town you can walk across it in minutes, big enough to have all the conveniences, large enough to remain incognito, but FAR ENOUGH from the METH, BS, BREAK INS that are Kelowna or Kamloops. That's why.
WTH are you talking about??? I've lived here over 40 years and the " METH, BS, BREAK INS" are the worst theyve ever been and VERY prominent in the downtown core.
lots of garbage has moved in the last several years. Homeless encampments are all over
But don't worry folks, the housing market is strong!
If your one of élite rich
Bank of CANADA just raised interest rates up another point the greed is incredible and the need for housing is huge//where can these Canadians go? if we have room for immigration we can house these people somewhere. On the front street of someones block is not the answer ever/ one of my neighbours rents out the back space to a guy in a trailer who dumps his waste water on the lawn $700.00 a month he pays in Chilliwack
seeking accountability on what is the crisis everyone is trying to look past/
but now it's families... not just those who made three mistakes this morning///
maybe don't try to live somewhere so desireable, move to a more rural location where things are still actually quite affordable.
Shows what you know. Anywhere in BC the same issue appears. Average rent in the small town where i live is 2200 a month and there is virtually nothing available
@@jessegreywolf Columbia valley, here Golden to Cranbrook. There's NOTHING to rent but I do know a group of large money types (academic earth mothers) that are bringing Ukranian refugees over and there no places available. We have local families that both adults are working looking for a reasonable place!!!
It is not a housing issue for these people in the sense that they just want to be left alone and be self-sufficient. We have enough land in Canada to accommodate the entire world's population. Its about the real estate industry. If people found a way to live without buying a ridiculously overpriced house, they would threaten the rich. The politicians don't work for us, stop voting and enabling their broken system.
Stupid...or what?
Only working for a job with pay and saving is no longer good enough anymore. Invest in real estate, stock market, fractional share artwork market as early as possible as you could get wealthy within 40 years.
Where are they getting money for gas to move every 48hrs? Rent in BC has been $1200.00 plus since 1997, this is not new. Hell at one point in 2005 I was paying 1700.00. Why are people bitching rent on average has gone up $300.00 in two decades… In 2002, I was making $8.03 at Tim Hortons and $8.25 at a dry cleaners supporting 3 children, attending university and paying $1200.00 for a 2 bedroom house… Then that place was sold so I moved onto a $1700.00 with the same income. I had to get creative, like no internet, no cable. We used the food bank/volunteered there as well. 2nd hand pay as you go Virgin cell phone. Now minimum wage is $10.00 and people are paying $2000.00 I’m not getting what the problem is here. People have lost perspective on this issue. Homelessness/van life in this case is not about housing costs, it is about mental health, drugs, alcohol, laziness and or a desire to live on the fringes of society.
Where am I getting money to afford gas to move every 48 hours..we don't have a life and if we do it's a very poor quality of life..I wouldn't wish it on anyone
People want to work and have lives as well. If you wanna work 2 jobs and go to university that is on you. But I’m not doing that I like resting too. Work hard and play hard is my motto.
Keep increasing taxes bc it’s good for people. Tax all the small things that they enjoy. Put a increase in your meteors to stop peoples from going down town
Embarrassing? The younger folks see it as a badge of honor.
Trudeau's Canada, isn't it lovely?
It's like this worldwide not just Canada .....sheesh
it sure is but guns are the most important issue these days eff the poor.
@@evieshore3270 Yes because of globalist neo liberal leaders like Trudeau that have banded together to do the WEF's bidding.
@@evieshore3270 Yes because of globalist neo liberal leaders like Trudeau that have banded together to do the WEF's bidding.
Love my country and fellow Canadians🇨🇦🇨🇦❤❤
Permanent parking is effectively stealing land from somebody - from the city, private citizens or businesses. Answer that question? Then answer who is paying for the resources they use up, sewages, electricity, fresh water, etc. The city can build infrastructure to handle everything but the land part.
Considering they still earn an income and pay taxes as they would be apart of the people paying it.
Sorry but if I'm paying insurance on my motorhome then I should be allowed to park it wherever parking is legally allowed..I pay to dump the sewage. I'm quiet and respectful of other people then I should have that right
These people are the reason respectful Rv'ers are losing places to park!!!!
People with money are 100% respectful?
They don't park on the side of the road either, you don't understand the problem?
Where is the government? Why they are not able to find a solution??
They can’t find a solution because their PhD’s with no common sense.
They not looking for solutions.
they dont care
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the cost of immigration
that is a terrible thing to say.
and also untrue, and disingenuous.
homelessness is a serious issue. and immigrants are truly hard working.
there is no need to spread hate, when there is already so much pain.
have a heart.
@@robertlee3778 there are a number of peopl. there is a number of houses, now it must be fair to say that the math is wrong, people in government and and city hall need to work out the numbers, build more structures and widen the roads, immigrants are all right? there are just too many, should there be an unlimmited amount of immigrants coming here, then say that the homeless situation is all right?
@@mwong8223 you have several flaws in your argument:
1. you cannot blame immigrants for the problems of homelessness. Your association between homelessness (poverty, housing affordability, gap of ability & skills, opportunity etc.) and immigrants "stealing jobs" from these homeless people is flawed because some homeless people simply cannot work because of mental or physical issues or even just ability. Are they to be blamed? No. But to make the association that immigrants are stealing potential employment from these homeless people is flawed because you are also making the assumption that the government ONLY allows low skilled workers into the country which is further from the truth. The immigration laws and policies are very stringent and the government of Canada scrutinizes carefully the applicants and they do not willy-nilly let anyone into the country.
2. we are all immigrants. You are an immigrant. I am an immigrant. We are all immigrants. The vast majority of Canadians are immigrants. Maybe you were born here. Maybe your parents were born here as well. I bet you, however, if you trace back far enough, you will find someone in your family immigrated to Canada. To blame the homelessness on immigration is to deny your very Canadian citizenship.
3. immigrants are hard working people, and they contribute significantly to Canada's economy. Experts have already cited that the birth rate in Canada is falling due to several factors (entitlement of lifestyle, inflation, better educated people, etc. blah blah blah), plus aging population, etc. Let me ask you this. Have you gone to a restaurant recently and seen a sign "we are short staff so please realize that service may be slow." I have. The sad part and the reality is that many Canadians don't even want to work, even at $15 / hour. Many experts have said that Canada should actually open up the immigration quotas and not restrict immigrants.
Lastly, Canada is a nation of compassion. We are a caring country. We care about our citizens, and yes, even the homeless, even the addicts, even the disabled. We care.
@@robertlee3778 yes i see that you have completed the liberal arts degree program, which i have as well, basically ageism is a problem, we did not account for so many elders to live in poverty, suck in particulates from the air, because they live on the magor arteries in the cities, it is not thier falt that they cannot afford to work or are incapable, we cannot provide for people who live here, yet can give 2 billion to mumbia, i say that the math is wrong, you want to generalize, you need at least three examples for every idilic fact you spout off
Anyways, what would you say to the elderly who live around chinatown, who have to put up with all this? That they are too old now to work? that we cannot afford to set up a home for them out into the country where there is less chance of heart attack, stoke and cancer?
@@mwong8223 "yes i see that you have completed the liberal arts degree program" wrong yet again. In fact, quite the opposite. I have a Bachelor of Science.
You seem to like to put labels on things, to compartmentalize and to categorize. If that is your thing, so be it.
Attacking the author is a natural defense when your own argument falls apart. No worries. I have seen this tactic used before and it falls apart quickly, as I have shown above.
" we did not account for so many elders to live in poverty, suck in particulates from the air" all I can say to this is thank goodness that you are not the supreme commander of the universe because we would all suffer at your hands and judgement. Your lack of empathy and lack of compassion is ... astounding, and is only paralleled by your unfounded judgements. Your middle name wouldn't happen to be Ebenezer would it? but I digress.
all i can say is this world contains all types.
and yes, even people such as you.
and yes, you have taught me a valuable lesson, which I have to be re-taught almost on a daily basis ... i can't help those who do not want to be helped. call me a forever optimist. perhaps even a fool to have such hope in humanity. and perhaps that is my fault, which is to have compassion and empathy ... and hope, things which are completely foreign to you, i know. Nevertheless ...
continue your own way.
i know you will. unflinchingly. unrepentantly. because that is who you are. 😊
You're just Canadians, Trudeau won't help YOU. You're just the money source as he gives it away
This is why Trudeau flies, doesn't have to see Canadians struggled that way
I guess he should be travelling by Car, better yet by Horse.
Yeah coz Vernon is in the PM's sight line. Maybe look at the cost of rent, which has NOTHING to do with Ottawa. Stop with personality attacks, open your front door and work with your community to find solutions.
And Harper?
@@marianfrances4959 lmao, you Liberals lol. Trudeau flying more than any pm Harper's fault, Trudeau groping a female reporter sexually without consent, well Harper's fault, did Harper hold the mirror when Trudeau was a racist and applied Blackface? Trudeau is someone who has past sexual misconduct, past RACIST attitude even in the last few YEARS. The country was unified and posted surplus when Harper left. This mess under Trudeau is indefensible. Corrupt and deceitful and incompetent.
@@lisatoronto7265 inflation has lots to do with Ottawa, they've said for years they are involved in housing. If Trudeau didn't want people to call him out for sexual misconduct then he shouldn't have GROPED the reporter sexually without consent. Don't like his being called a Racist then your issue stems from his wearing Blackface. Upset at him being labelled corrupt, then you go talk with him. Trudeau doesn't give two shots about you, or Canada.
Good job Trudeau
She is such a liberal complainer...no solutions. Create a lot like away from the city offer a bus into town.
Some people prefer to be bums. I dont think that woman wants a giant dilapidated RV parked in the front of her house.
Describe dilapidated
@@mathiefranchuk1624 there is a photo of her RV in the online dictionary
Describe "bum"
@@mathiefranchuk1624 probably u
Everyone is hiring. Get a job and start paying taxes like everyone else. Everyone is so lazy these days and with all the government hand outs from hard working tax payers money is the problem and is getting worse everyday everywhere
People are applying for jobs, but employers ONLY want young, able to lift 50 pounds, decades of experience, hyper-outgoing, and they don’t give some of them a chance. Sone people never got a chance.
@The Real Jeffery Of Sky this is certainly not the country for outdoor showers year round 🥶
Bringing their homes to the source of meth.. seems smarter than waiting for it to get shipped to Vancouver.
@The Real Jeffery Of Sky cool. Gods not real.
Keep voting liberal and watch this become even more widespread.
Plenty of simpletons still impressed by nice hair left in canada, so this will probably get worse.
I don't get this .... Get a job. Its really really reallllllly not that hard. Indeed you don't even need a proper resume. You can put any fake address you want no one with background check your living situation. Go grab a haircut and a shower at a local gym. Spit polish your shoes and hand in a resume to McDonalds. Then move somewhere more affordable. I'm so tired of this lazy victim mentality. like either of these people couldn't work at Wendy's ?!?!?
There are two types of people the victims and the a**holes!
Rent in Calgary is cheap.
Shut up you are going to drive rent thru the roof!!!!
Nope
No it's not.