@@real_world_view_- OP asked nothing about RNA. But RNA and DNA isn't a code. We just use that expression as a way to explain a complex concept. Analysis of DNA shows very clearly that it isn't designed
“I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” - Mark Twain -
_"I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born."_ Not true. The "I" Twain alleges to have existed, actually hadn't. Only upon his creation did he, as "I", begin to exist. Twain cannot logically equate non-existence, with the upcoming period that is to follow the death of his earthly body. That is to say, the two states MAY, in fact, turn out to both be tantamount to non-existence, but it is a logical error for Twain to deduce this. Whether his consciousness lives beyond his body is a fact Twain cannot know via such a comparison.
The arrogance in this quote. He was not dead. Something can only be dead after it has been alive. This aligns with the definition of the word dead- *No longer* alive.
Man, how could you compare arrogance here just think if one didn't believe and die and other who did who is the winner here, if there truely a greater power(god, creationist) exist then what's the solution hereafter for non believer, anyway no one fails if there's nothing happens after death just lost senses not a matter of depate anymore. But rather atleast it gives some peace ✌️ and positivity in society, i truely believe there's god bcs of my story.
Exactly it’s the death of this body not the soul yes we all die it’s just a body a vessel but we have souls I’m young my mom had my eldest brother and I wasn’t even human yet doesn’t mean I wasn’t existing and I was born 4 years later where was I those years? Or where was I when my mom was growing up? I simply just wasn’t on earth yet and I have another brother born 4 years after me we simply come be humans when it’s time and we leave when it’s time
Well, to be honest, we don't really know if death is "peaceful." And you can't believe, too much, what someone experienced when they "came back from the dead." Remember, their brain was starving for oxygen and I can't even begin to imagine the hallucinations one might "see."
সূরা আল-ওয়াকিয়াহ (الواقعة), আয়াত: ৪৭ وَکَانُوۡا یَقُوۡلُوۡنَ ۬ۙ اَئِذَا مِتۡنَا وَکُنَّا تُرَابًا وَّعِظَامًا ءَاِنَّا لَمَبۡعُوۡثُوۡنَ ۙ উচ্চারণঃ ওয়া কা-নূইয়াকূলূনা আইযা-মিতনা-ওয়া কুন্না-তুরা-বাওঁ ওয়া ‘ইজা-মান আইন্নালামাব‘ঊছূন। অর্থঃ And they used to say, "When we die and become dust and bones, are we indeed to be resurrected? সূরা আল-ওয়াকিয়াহ (الواقعة), আয়াত: ৪৮ اَوَاٰبَآؤُنَا الۡاَوَّلُوۡنَ উচ্চারণঃ আওয়া আ-বাউনাল আওওয়ালূন। অর্থঃ And our forefathers [as well]?" সূরা আল-ওয়াকিয়াহ (الواقعة), আয়াত: ৪৯ قُلۡ اِنَّ الۡاَوَّلِیۡنَ وَالۡاٰخِرِیۡنَ ۙ উচ্চারণঃ কুল ইন্নাল আওওয়ালীনা ওয়াল আ-খিরীন। অর্থঃ Say, [O Muhammad], "Indeed, the former and the later peoples সূরা আল-ওয়াকিয়াহ (الواقعة), আয়াত: ৫০ لَمَجۡمُوۡعُوۡنَ ۬ۙ اِلٰی مِیۡقَاتِ یَوۡمٍ مَّعۡلُوۡمٍ উচ্চারণঃ লামাজমূ‘ঊনা ইলা-মীকা-তি ইয়াওমিম মা‘লূম। অর্থঃ Are to be gathered together for the appointment of a known Day." সূরা আল-ওয়াকিয়াহ (الواقعة), আয়াত: ৫১ ثُمَّ اِنَّکُمۡ اَیُّہَا الضَّآلُّوۡنَ الۡمُکَذِّبُوۡنَ ۙ উচ্চারণঃ ছু ম্মা ইন্নাকুম আইইয়ুহাদ্দাললূনাল মুকাযযি বূন। অর্থঃ Then indeed you, O those astray [who are] deniers,
@@DesertVox come on, don’t be obtuse. There are two states you and I have been in so far. But you’ve only experienced and know of one of those states - being alive. Forget the age of the earth/universe…. Let’s just focus on what we know for a fact. Your mother and father lived for quite some time before you were conceived and then born. But they were absolutely essential to create you. So let’s plot just the time they have been alive… for arguments sake, they were both 20 when they met and you were born when your mother was 25. From their birth to the age of 25, you did NOT exist. Rare earth theory and the benefit of perfect hindsight, we know you WILL exist shortly. That was state 1. Not yet alive. Then you were conceived, and born and grew up. That’s state 2. State 1 is impossible for YOU to remember or experience. But that state is quantifiable because we DO know that there was a universe then. An earth. Society. I mean, your parents were going on dates. State 2 is you’re experiencing right now - being alive. So there you go, 2 states that definitely happened. One you can’t remember and one you’re living in real-time. Don’t you think it’s far more likely that when we die, we just die? The chances of you being born at all were infinitesimally small requiring that your parents met, and each of their parents met, and each of their parents met, going back thousands of generations. Between not being born, being alive and being dead, it’s LIFE that’s the standout. The exception. Why do you think you get to keep going somewhere else after death?
Funny you say that because Richard himself said when I die my body will decay and EGO mistreating words to use. Because he knows what he said there is nothing but ego. You can have your issues with religion but to completely deny that there might be anything not even a god after death is beyond ignorant for him
Do you mean 'cease' to exist for the blink of an eye? The Bible is pretty specific about what death is, what happens after that and what is the final outcome. The 3rd verse below agrees with Mr. Dawkins, the Bible should not be dismissed because he is unaware of that as well as the final stage. Ec:3:20: All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again. Ec:12:7: Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. Vs:1-7 is about man aging, teeth are grinders, windows are eyes, bow is what a back does. 120 years is the limit God set in Ge:6 Ec:9:10: Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest. The wrath Job is referencing, it is when God sends Satan to the lake. The event after that is the Great White Throne event that sees everyone in the Re:20:5 list come back to life like a few people did 1,000 years earlier. The 1st group end up living in New Jerusalem in the new earth, they never come out. The people that enter in Re:21 are the people from Re:20:5. They leave the city, are given in marriage and taken to different worlds all over the universe. Ge:1 is repeated for each couple. That is where they start to build the homes (watch as it is built by others), are given in marriage at the age of 20, have 100 children by the time they are 120 years old. God brings that new child at that time, and they meet their 'older brothers' who are learning everything a perfected angel has to know. They also meet god who gives the water and foot that changes their eternal body into one that does not need food to remain alive. They can travel the whole universe in their 'Grandpa' stage of life that lasts for the eternity of the new earth. The Angels in Mount Sion are in their perfected heaven, at that time they will be given in marriage, have a child that is born perfected like Christ, the child of God and the Holy Spirit (Ge:1:1-2). Ge:1 was spoken into existence as an inheritance for their child. When Mary of Bethany is back in Mount Sion she will be perfected, Christ and her will be given in marriage. So will everyone else there that is single. That is when this verse is fulfilled: M't:5:48: Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Ge:1:1-2: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Ge:1:26-27: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
I, personally, have had spiritual experiences and know others who have had, as well. I grateful for the knowledge I've acquired. No one should have so big an ego that they refuse to believe in something bigger than themselves.
How sad to be limited by only that which can be proven. Many generations since the dawn of time have had breakthroughs which have shattered fundamental notions of what we thought we knew.
I simply can not understand people who believe there is nothing after death. I mean, if there's really nothing after death then what's the point of life and this existince anyway? It's stupid and it does not make sense at all.
that's why people commit suicide :) I'm not afraid of death, I'm afraid of suffering in life. I am more worried about the experiences of relatives after my death.
True...death is always feared...there's always the feeling of uncertainty...death is organic. And there is life after death...we all gonna be judged...most religions believed there's life after death
“Like being stupid” “It’s only painful for others” The parents of a terrified child dying of Leukaemia would beg to differ!! Sorry but the brilliant cognitive scientist Noam Chomsky’s poignant statement still stands since the rise of militant atheism..... “I don't join the New Atheists. So, for example, I wouldn't have the arrogance to lecture some mother who hopes to see her dying child in Heaven - that's none of my business.” (Noam Chomsky) "It is quite possible--overwhelmingly probable, one might guess--that we will always learn more about human life and human personality from novels than from scientific psychology. The science-forming capacity is only one facet of our mental endowment.” (Noam Chomsky) Furthermore, according to the brilliant author and Oxford lecturer C.S. Lewis…. “If there was no intelligence behind the universe, no creative mind. In that case, nobody designed my brain for the purpose of thinking. It is merely that when the atoms inside my skull happen, for physical or chemical reasons, to arrange themselves in a certain way, this gives me, as a by-product, the sensation I call thought. But, if so, how can I trust my own thinking to be true? It's like upsetting a milk jug and hoping that the way it splashes itself will give you a map of London. But if I can't trust my own thinking, of course I can't trust the arguments leading to Atheism, and therefore have no reason to be an Atheist, or anything else.” (C. S. Lewis). Equally, the late Professor Haldane of Oxford University said concerning the logical conclusion of a strict naturalism: “If my mental processes are determined wholly by the motions of atoms in my brain, I have no reason to suppose that my beliefs are true … and hence I have no reason to suppose that my brain to be composed of atoms.”
@Bakeroo Thanks a lot for your concern. You sound like a beautiful human being.. I just focus on now and have done it for years. If you are in the now and that includes not thinking you fine so much release and freedom. It's very hard to get there, but it's worth it.
There are still parts of the world, like the middle east, where the idea of there not being a god is something that people may find hard to conceptualise.
My son died, and people lie to me, to comfort me n say your son is still with you, watching you, to turn off the mourning emotions. When your love one dies, its a big painful terrible hole in their hearts.
Religion corrupts happiness meaning with no solution is a religion just try to be happy your no perfect neither is he I believe God is is good in saving people but I don't think he solves mental illness he thinks it's choice rather even God is fate we make choices to care but it is tool humanity must focus on fate and forgiveness not some person who uses his emotions while he makes choices the only emotions we should practice is words and compassion and conpromise touch without these things maybe we are wrong
Nearly 80% of people believe there probably is a Hell. Only 5% feel they might end up there. INTERESTING? Satan (the father of Lies) is the lord of This World according to The Bible. IF it is True, the people who tell you that God is not real are either Blinded from The Truth or being used by Satan to Decieve You. If You Want To Know The Truth, Ask Jesus Into Your Heart. If You Truly Ask and Pray for God to Show You The Truth, He Will. There is Far More Evidence For God's Existence than You are aware of. God gave us all a Free Gift of Eternal Life. To simply Believe in Jesus as The Son of God, who Rose from the dead and has Power Over Death. Thats it! This world is just a testing ground. We return to where we came from. God wants You to turn to Him and put your pain and your sorrows on Jesus. If you turn to Jesus, HE WILL COMFORT YOU WITH HIS HOLY SPIRIT. He Is Waiting For You to Seek Him. "Ask, and it shall be Given, Seek and You shall Find, Knock and The Door will be Opened For You"
@@JesusSavesSouls As far as we can tell, consciousness is a process or function that brains do, so a more appropriate description is it stops, not dies. Like how walking is something legs do. If the legs die, walking stops. If the brain dies, consciousness stops. Just because consciousness and walking are not physical doesn’t mean they can continue after death.
@@petemiller2920 If that’s the case and consciousness is limited to the function of our brains, then how can we alter our physical reality with our consciousness? (Quantum machines). Consciousness is beyond our brains.
When I die ..I want to go like my grandfather peacefully in his sleep...not screaming and yelling like the passengers in the back seat of his Uber car...😂
Dawkins hasn't a clue what he's talking about, just as we have entered this world, so we shall another. How can you be so short sighted and ignorant. If one can be brought forth from a void, is there a void at all? Have we not been brought from somewhere else? If he's speaking on the concept of "memory" or the sense of self and ego after death that's another discussion. Many lifeforms undergo metamorphosis, the death and transmutation to another, what is life and what is death? Take note, that a case of metamorphosis always goes hand in hand with a change in environment or what we would perceive as external circumstance. What makes us think the same doesn't happen? That not only do we undergo transformation but that always happens in a symbiosis with our environment?
@Joe dirty71 just as much as there is no good reason to disregard that it exists. Do you think understanding has been obtained and achieved by exploring and studying what is already known? We gain understanding by attempting to understand what is not yet known. That's half the problem with these scientists, they are parrots, they do not think or study outside the box, but revel and exist in preexisting notions and dogma. That's why geniuses are rare. Because people are literally incapable of thinking for themselves and lack any courage to walk paths others don't. They feel safe, confident and reassured when they solidify their beliefs in an already existing ideology.
The thing that upsets me most about dying is upsetting my family and the cost of a funeral. I wanted to buy a funeral plan but my beautiful greyhound needed treatment on her feet so she could walk without pain.
@PregoJoker I thought that would be good but it's a bit environmentally damaging. It's up to my family really but if I could I would have a natural burial with a tree planting in a regenerative scheme where there is no memorial. I would like wool shroud and either a wicker coffin or a reusable painted one.
@PregoJoker That was the intention until my beautiful greyhound cost me £3,000 for operations on her feet and £900 for dental care. She was a racing greyhound and at the.end if her career she went into rescue. She had some teeth removed there but only the basics because rescues don't have endless funds. . She is such a beautiful, simple and dignified soul going broke was the least I could do for her. She is so sweet and patient.
I'd rather believe that when I die I'll be somewhere else than to believe I'll be nowhere. What's the point of you living and having loved ones when you know after you die that's it. The logic here is simple, choice is yours. Choose whatever you want to believe in. As for me and my family we shall see God
The logic is that you enjoy every moment possible with your loved ones and doing the things you love rather than deluding yourself. I the benefit that true and there’s zero evidence for any type of celestial theme park at all.
@@yassinfarouk2800 true but it doesn't mean that it exists either. In fact, the latter is usually more common. So how do we go by believing something that actually exists in reality so we don't delude ourselves? Well.. that's by showing proper concrete and verifyable evidence for it. Anything else is unreliable at best.
Well to think of it, how conscious you are when you are sleeping. You don’t recall the moment of transition from being awake to being asleep, do you? Even though you are alive! In my view upon death you just cease to be awaken. You merely transit to unconsciousness and serenity without recalling anything bad. Undependent of the mechanism of your demise. Which is quite a soothing notion.
@@juusotamminen2907You completely neglected the subconscious, the problem here is that you think you are juusotamminem (or your real name), you think you are that meat suit traversing through a physical plain.
What happens after death is what we call the knowledge of the unseen (الغيب) in the Arabic language/Islam. our reference when it comes to that is the Quran; which we believe is a divine revelation. There are signs of truth that are measurable, and scientific matters that the Quran talked about and events which it predicted very precisely. All of that gives us certainty of its authenticity, which leads us to rely on its explanation of the after life. Other than the divine explanation, no one knows because no one is capable of leaving life & coming back to tell the story.
Thats not being defensive, he is questioning his logic. But anyway it is written in the quran that they will not believe, even if you bring the biggest evidence
The problems is the certainty that most religious people have of their faith and its tenets! Science has revealed the mysteries of the world, life on it, and the universe. The bible--or any "holy" book--and all the religions that are or ever were, did not nor could not accomplish that!!!!! One day, science may figure out the origin of life. In the absence of an explanation, the religious and the ignorant simply make up origin stories. And all the while, over the past five centuries or so, scientific discovery has whittled away at the "god did that" postulate.
When i was 2 years old i had a significant accident that gave me memory where i saw my father working to dislodge the meat grinder from my hand. I also remember watching him throw the meat grinder over our back fence toward a canal behind our house. When i was 19 i realized my memory was an out of body experience as i listened to a roommate tell about an accident he had when riding bikes on the beach with friends. He fell off his bike and hit his head. He remembers being above looking down on his friends around his body. We do have a soul, comprised of a spirit and a body. Our spirit lives on after leaving our body when we die. Richard will find out soon enough that we live on after we die and are reunited with our family/ancestors who passed on before us
@@Zalo975 Because based on our understanding of reality, it’s physically impossible for us to leave our bodies, and the mind is capable of hallucinations
Don't wander lost in life, design and information in dna comes from an intelligent Being because information can't come from chaos. God has sent Quran which is the last book, and to prove it is sent by Him, He challenged Human beings to make anything like the Quran or make the smallest chapter of it which can be written in one line, and it has been more than 1400 years and no human being can make it.
U guys literally believe the creator of the entire universe adopted the human species as his children and that out of all the animals that ever existed, we're the ones that matter the most. Oh yea, what a humble faith.
Surah al-Anbiya 104. On the Day when We fold the heaven, like the folding of a book. Just as We began the first creation, so We will repeat it-a promise binding on Us. We will do it.
@@americanearthling9671 try dmt, look up higher dimensions and 5th dimensional conciousnes, not saying that what near death experiences are but u should probably look that up quickly 👉 so much to learn bro it's kinda amazing
@@lindaj171 Im one of those people. I experienced it twice and I can tell you that nothing happens. It's like going to sleep. It does feel comfortable tough. No need to be scared of dying.
A discussion between Richard Dawkins and Rupert Sheldrake would be really interesting. They represent two very different paths and ways of thinking in modern day biology.
I would agree with that statement but the nothingness we felt before we were born had meaning because it led up to the point where we are alive today. The problem with dying is we don’t know where that leads and that there isn’t a meaning.
I am one off those people who have experienced death and for me , there is nothing. No light, no people from the past . Nothing. Which also means no more pain or worry, hurt, anger or hatred. It was comforting to me. A man that at that point had just completed all the 10 commandments (at least once) and used the 7 deadly sins for recreation. It truly was like sleeping in heavenly peace .
We didn’t know black holes existed, or that the earth was spherical, so there may be a soul, we don’t have any proof. Lack if proof doesn’t mean the non-existence of something, it just means we don’t know. That’s the difference between an atheist and an agnostic.
The black hole a magnificently poor apology. There was a time before we knew about black holes, even conceptually. However, we have always had this concept of a soul/afterlife. The man there came a time from the theory of physics that the black hole must exist, but we had never seen one. We have never had any evidence of a soul, even theoretical. Now we have seen a black hole and photographed it and many others have been detected over the years, proving the hypothesis that they must exist. But for the soul, it is nothing more than an emotional idea that hasn't progressed since the bronze age, and probably much before.
The "We don't know for sure" argument can be applied to anything. We don't know for sure that unicorns exist or fairies. Now what makes the concept of a "soul" any different than other concepts we brush aside as fiction? The reason many people assume that a "soul" must exist is because of their arrogance. They think themselves special and therefore above the laws of physics, which point to a strictly materialistic view of consciousness - in theory, consciousness could be simulated by a large enough computer. So theists need to explain what makes the concept of a "soul" different WITHOUT pointing to the bible as they often like to do.
I once had a dream where i witnessed an event take place two weeks before it did in the real world. I told my friends about this vivid dream and two weeks later i was experiencing the exact moments in real life, and was realising it as i was experiencing those moments.. It felt so weird I couldn’t think straight when i noticed and i had to go home afterwards.. there is more to life than we know
@@hig1792 No, the exact dream i had, which i remembered consciously, was unfolding before my eyes in real time. It was a strange dream so i told my friends about it. Two weeks later it happened for real. Deja Vu is when you can't really figure out where or when you've remembered this moment. I get deja vu all the time it's nothing special. This however, was completely different. This was like a vision of the future
I've had two people tell me that they experienced death. One overdosed and the other died during child birth. Both of them told me that a feeling of ease came over them, as if all their worries left them and they felt completely at peace. As for a tunnel, I would say that is merely your eyes shutting down. I also believe that it takes time for the electricity stored in the brain dissipates and as it does you re-live those memories and thoughts.
@Bannock Chief - could be as well some kind of chemical reaction in the Brain and Body which makes you feel that way. And the Tunnel with light, could as well be just a Prozess of fading away during the dying Prozess. (Seperatly from a god exist or not).
I believe those NDE are when dmt is released and that is our heaven when we die. Probably why they say get everything off your chest and make amends before u die because that’s when “hell” comes into play in a form of a bad trip. Not saying we just go to heaven with angles bc I like everyone else do not know but it’s definitely a place we go to after death rather it’s physical or mental I’m just a young punk tho what do I know
The New testament teaches that it's once appointed to die and after that the judgement, the new testament also teaches the the ressurection of the dead
Near death I would say is a misnomer. In many instances, they are dead. If you are on the table and people are running a code on you, you are dead. They are just running an algorithm to see if they can restart your heart and bring you back to the land of the living. Some would say that those “near death” experiences are just your brain and body using up its oxygen and glucose stores but who knows🎅🏿
@@basia2330 except when they are. some people have died and came back. near death doesnt mean that you were somehow still alive during that experience.
@@josesuokas217 when these people died, their brains did not die - meaning when they are temporarily “dead” they are hallucinating or dreaming. You can never come back from being brain dead
When your brain stops your mind stops. Energy doesn't create this reality and dimension and also another one because you deserve it. Coming back to life after death means you weren't really dead.
@@IbrahimIsmail4889 Damage to the brain affects the mind. We know that. We also know that during sleep we are unconscious apart from the time when our subconscious does the dream stuff. We are conscious of our body and 5 senses so no body no 5 senses. Take away our sense of self and what would we be processing? An eternity as a ghost seems wrong especially as the Sun will burn out and the Earth would stop existing. No one mentions meeting alien ghosts in the next plane or do they have their own Heaven and Hell?.
@@IbrahimIsmail4889 The fact that lesioning some parts of the brain makes your Identity change it's enough to understand you're your brain and nothing else.
The "tunnel of light" often reported during NDEs can, according to Blackmore, be explained by the brain's visual cortex reacting to hypoxia. As the visual system starts to shut down, people might perceive a narrowing of vision, creating the sensation of moving through a tunnel toward a light.
@@Ben-sk1ff That doesn't explain the part about some people's account of 'looking down on their body' (which I kind of expected Piers to be going for here, but failed because he just said yes when 'tunnel of light' was mentioned), but that explanation does seem to work for the 'tunnel of light'.
I been with dozens of overdose victims & none of them told me they had any experience when they were brought round. Its weird that nobody ever speaks to those people.
Ye I can tell you from experience I saw nothing and I went out like 10 times it 2as like anesthesia I was standing there one second in the day time and then it's night and im in the back of an ambulance puking into a plastic bag no time passed just a snap of the fingers and a rather confusing scary experience having a seizure is even worse it's like your brain restarts like a computer and for a few minutes you don't even know what you are ur looking at ur hands and shit like wtf am I??
@@brandyfinley4957 Ive overdosed myself before more than once. I was a Heroin Addict for 10 years & I thought dying was boring,theres nothing,its just like going to sleep,you dont even know youre gone but I also wonder if thats due to the opiate itself...Like somehow it stops you from having those flashbacks from your life that people talk about. I also wonder if knowing you were going to have an overdose would make the experience different than if you just went over accidently. Im a Psychologist & this stuff fascinates me Ive spent thousands of hours talking to Heroin addicts who have gone over but it can be hard to get coherrant answer from alot of them because of the education levels & mental health issue,most people dont even understand what Im talking to them about but nobody has ever told me they experienced anything.
Almost like they were unconscious when they had their NDE or something. Yes I’ve noted the same thing listening to drug overdose stories. I’ve tried to bring it to people’s attention but it doesn’t fit their fantasy narrative.
Its likely because Richard speaks in such a "matter of fact" way. As if he has died for a couple of days and was resuscitated and actually knows. So you have it backwards,..Piers' response is because Richard is acting like he has confirmed, first hand knowledge. It is completely unknown whether there is anything beyond death or not. He cites evolution when he says,..."evolved brain" as he conflates evolution with death.. It is ORIGIN, not evolution, that gives us faith that there is something more.
@@stricknine8623 "As if he has died for a couple of days and was resuscitated and actually knows." Good job avoiding his argument entirely which is that a brain is powered by nerve impulses. Also, if your god is real you should be scared to death of him. He genocided the entire planet once to demonstrate that "might makes right." You really think such a creature is a moral one who has your best interests at heart? Being on his "good side" won't save you if you consider what he did to Job's family. They loved god but were killed over a bet your god made with his chief rival. But Job got a new family, so the story had a happy ending (for Job at least).
@@stricknine8623 "he conflates evolution with death.." Nope. You're twisting his words. He described the brain as "evolved" because it is smart enough to communicate, remember things, and have an ego.
@@havable Its an absolute objective reality that he conflates an evolved brain with death and nothing beyond. He wasn't defining the words "evolved brain" like you did He used the words "evolved brain" as his refute to the idea that "an evolved brain would decay and anything more" would exist. You are very slow.
I died for about 2 minutes when I was 19 years old. I had WPW, and my heart rate jumped to 300 bpm. I drove myself to the emergency room of the local hospital, walked in, and they tried to cardiovert me without putting me to sleep. I remember the impact of the shock and then hearing a “beeeeeeeep” and everything goes dark. The next thing I remember is waking up in ICU. I was told my heart stopped for about 2 minutes and was basically dead. I remember nothing from the “beeeeep” and waking up in ICU. I do not even remember dreaming.
And you are honest and truthful. Who ever dies, know nothing about life and what is going on around him. He is in deep sleep, death, until the resurrection.
Damm...that's scary. I have WPW. It's honestly been acting up here the last couple weeks. I've broken out in sweats and have lost my breath a few times. I also feel kind of like an emptiness in my chest sometimes....idk. I should probably go to the dr...
@@SurfDog85 -- One has WPW from birth. I had a few not so bad "events" where my heart simply beat very fast. My first serious event happened when I was 19, and I could tell right away this one was different. I could feel my heart fluttering in my chest, I would get dizzy, clammy skin, and my vision started going dark from the outside in but would correct itself before everything went completely dark. With a heart rate of 300 bpm I walked up 3 flights of stairs, drove myself to the emergency room and walked into the emergency room. A nurse took my pulse and got something like 88 bpm. The EKG machine measured about 300 bpm. If you think about it, one cannot count a 300 bpm heart rate. Just too fast. Also, there is a theory that one's electrical heart rate may be different from the physical heart rate during this type of episode. So both measurements could be right. As for going to the doctor, yes, a good idea. If you are out somewhere and have an episode, you may not be able to get to a doctor. You may also pass out. When the doctors reviewed my blood pressure and heart rate charts, they were amazed, I did not pass out at various times during the episode. One thing you can do is try to document what you were doing and eating or drinking just before an episode. I believe my episodes were triggered by caffeine or a similar stimulant. Actually, I had four episodes serious enough I had to go to the emergency room and get controverted. The first one was the worst, and it was almost certainly triggered by a flu vaccine shot. The last three happened while I was in college, and staying up all night studying for exams and eating coffee and drinking diet coke to help me stay awake to study for tests. I would eat a spoon full (or two) of coffee and chase it with water for the caffeine (no energy drinks during this era). I did not wish to waste time making or drinking coffee. Faster to just eat it. I had corrective surgery in 1985, and it was open heart surgery at that time. Now it is outpatient surgery - no big deal. The problem is caused by a short circuit that bypasses the AV node. They do an electrical mapping of the heart, find the "short circuit" (stray fibers), and they "snip it" so that the short is no longer a short. Problem solved.
I had 2 heart attacks last year. My second attack all I remember everything went black. I had died. I see no tunnel. No lights. Nothing. All I remember minutes later all I recall is someone performing CPR on me.
@@supersagamaster What? The hypocrisy! The top comment and yours stated that Richard Dawkins' nihilistic, materialistic and atheistic "truth" is objective. Keep being ridiculous and projecting your nihilistic view onto others. Cope
@@supersagamaster What? The hypocrisy! The top comment and yours stated that Richard Dawkins' nihilistic, materialist and atheistic "truth" is objective. Keep being ridiculous and projecting your nullist view onto others. Cope
@@marvinmarvin2424 In fact we would be more honest to say that in spite of death's omnipresence, we still don't understand it, and may never, beyond whatever medical facts it provides.
If you think about it, atheists have always been the psychopaths, sociopaths, and degenerates of society (e.g.Adolf Hilter, Mao, Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin)
when I was undergoing an operation, I had an asthma attack as i went under. I was resuscitated by Oxygen pumped into my lungs, chest compressions and electric shocks. At NO time did i see a light, a tunnel or hear music, it was nothing, until I started to come round. . I agree with Steven Dawkins, not the wishful thinking of most people.
A photo of his face upon the moment after his death would absolutely be priceless . In 1976 myself and 12 others fell through the ice that broke on a lake in the center of our small community, they told me i was not breathing for at least 10- 15 min, in a comma for three weeks upon regaining consciousness i knew who died and who lived, i was the only survivor, how would i have known that mr. smart guy?
Its because your body shortly after death releases DMT , a psychoactive compound. Your brain remains active for minutes after death. DMT can make minutes look like hours as it distorts the sense if time.
People in valid reports have documented their surroundings in a hospital room well being unconscious which then later is a test by the doctor and others
There's the hereafter, when everyone gets a fair trial. All the ones who got away with their crimes in this life, they won't escape their punishment then
There was an experiment done in a hospital to all patients in their death bed in case they came back from out of body experience after dying for a brief moment. They left a huge piece of paper on a higher shelf above the bed. There was something written on it facing up with huge letters. If the patient's soul comes back after dying they should be able to tell you what was written on that paper. None were able to. Soul is a spiritual thing, associated with feelings and religions and beliefs. No one is taking that away from you. It's part of our evolution, in how our brain works. But to say something happens to us after we die, is utter nonsense
You are lying about the experiment. „None were able to“ is wrong. The real problem was that they forgot placing the piece of paper during the only real NDE.
You are referring to the AWARE study. The problem is, not one of them claimed to have looked at the shelf, so it can't be concluded one way or the other. This is why, among other things, AWARE II is being conducted. Also, it sounds contradictory for evolution to make you feel good when dying. One needs to provide a strong reason for that, like some mechanism that it's very hard to select for feeling bad, that staves off death in the process.
He did invent the word. Susan Blackmore, whom he mentioned at the end, popularized it with her book “The meme machine”. Susan had an out of body experience of her own that was so real to her, she temporarily sacrificed her credibility telling everyone about it. I read her story as a mere weeks old believer in Jesus Christ back in 2000. Even though Susan had since convinced herself the experience was all in her head, I wanted to write to her to say I believed the experience was real. Why not, I had already failed the assignment I’d read it for. I don’t know why, but at that time I thought atheists just needed convinced God exists. As I pondered what to write her, a dream lead me to look for a book in my small town library. I assumed I would find something she had written. As I left the isle disappointed, a interesting title caught my attention. I opened a book where a reader had underlined the words “Anyone who dabbles in occult practices (listening some), opens themselves up to demonic influences.” I had read Susan was doing some of what was listed for her research. I found her email address and typed out what I had learned. However, in fear of her crushing my new faith I didn’t send it. Several years later when I was more secure in my faith and just after I had delivered a man from a demon that actually spoke out of him (side tangent it called itself “belligerence” and judging from what I helped the man deal with, it’s root entry point wasn’t occult but instead the man’s belief that his birth mother didn’t love him because she given him up for adoption), I did email Susan. We exchanged a few emails and towards the end I asked her if I was able to convince her there that God existed, would she believe He loved her. She said “No”. You see, atheism isn’t the problem Christians make it out to be. Unlike the angels that rebelled and were judged right away, for now, humans have a grace period to come to the understanding that God is who He says He is. Most importantly… “Love!”Jesus’s prayed as He was dying for our sins, “Forgive them Father, they know not what they do.” Father, forgive Susan, she doesn’t know how much You love her. As well for the person reading this.
Dawkins invented the word meme. Susan Blackmore, whom he mentioned at the end, popularized it with her book “The meme machine”. Susan had an out of body experience of her own that was so real to her, she temporarily sacrificed her credibility telling everyone about it. I read her story as a mere weeks old believer in Jesus Christ back in 2000. Even though Susan had since convinced herself the experience was all in her head, I wanted to write to her to say I believed the experience was real. (Why not, I had already failed the assignment I’d read it for.) I don’t know why, but at that time I thought atheists just needed convinced God exists. As I pondered what to write her, a dream lead me to look for a book in my small town library. I assumed I would find something she had written. As I left the isle disappointed, a interesting title caught my attention. I opened a book where a reader had underlined the words “Anyone who dabbles in occult practices (listening some), opens themselves up to demonic influences.” I had read Susan was doing some of what was listed for her research. I found her email address and typed out what I had learned. However, in fear of her crushing my new faith I didn’t send it. Several years later when I was more secure in my faith and just after I had delivered a man from a demon that actually spoke out of him (side tangent it called itself “belligerence” and judging from what I helped the man deal with, it’s root entry point wasn’t occult but instead the man’s belief that his birth mother didn’t love him because she given him up for adoption), I did email Susan. We exchanged a few emails and towards the end I asked her if I was able to convince her there that God existed, would she believe He loved her. She answered “No”. You see, atheism isn’t the problem Christians make it out to be. Unlike the angels that rebelled and were judged right away, for now, humans have a grace period to come to the understanding that God is who He says He is. Most importantly… “Love!”Jesus’s prayed as He was dying for our sins, “Forgive them Father, they know not what they do.” Father, forgive Susan, she doesn’t know how much You love her. Same for the person reading this.
My father was comatose for two days in bed with cancer, wasted away to a 100 lbs. Suddenly he sat upright in bed, his eyes bulging open. staring upwards he took a deep breath, laid back down and he was gone, the angels came to get him. Don't tell me there's nothing after we die
god moves in misterious ways .but sadly someone i know just before he died he sat up in bed pointed up and said i see geese flying backwards than lied back down and was dead there is also nerons missfireing and chemicals releised i dont have the answers but my coment just below you maybe give some insite .
@@zeroounce8874 how do you know there is? Because a 2000 year old price of paper told you? Written by people who pooped in ditches and beat their wives?
@@oscarmoody2173 😂 I have already found out. Had an experience of enlightenment. But hey you probably don’t believe in that too and I don’t judge you because I was exactly like you. Everyone will receive an understanding in their own time.
During my long career I resuscitated many who were clinically deceased. But I remember few who told me what they saw......he said "she was on my chest making compressions and you were holding my head give me oxygen with fingers in my neck". Many times like this patients have seen us resuscitate them.
It would seem to be the case based on hearing many people speak about emotional processing work, that even fear of death is a fear passed to us in our childhood. All fears appear to be releasable emotions through simply grieving what’s under the fear (grief is under every fear it seems). Though there is no one on earth currently who has done this... there are those in the spirit world who tell us it’s possible. My personal experience so far is that it seems to be possible with the things I’ve confronted so far, so it would be illogical to not work on the basis it will be true for all fears and keep experimenting. The other thing which appears to be true, is that the truth is always loving. So death cannot be true. Now, I have issues with many things personally. But it would make sense if there was a universal law about truth, that truth is always loving. Rather than it just being sometimes loving. If the truth doesn’t seem loving, either we are getting an emotion confronted inside of us, or we don’t actually see the truth yet. That’s the theory...but I’m rolling with because it’s not proven itself untrue yet, it sounds and feels good, it has on many occasions shown itself to become increasingly true for me already, and I haven’t found an exception yet, where I feel like I’ve worked through enough of the pain on the issue to make a judgment unbiased by my own inherited grief feelings about the issue. So if life appears untrue, what are you in fact experiencing? If death appears true, maybe you don’t understand the process fully. What happens after, are there ways you can experiment with this already? Are there highly recommended mediums you can visit, loved ones you know who have already passed. Have you asked them to try and contact you, to help make themselves known, lead you to a medium event. If you haven’t done these things already, why the hell not? It’s probably one of the most important questions we have on earth. So if you haven’t already, already it’s obvious you have emotions stuck inside about death, fear, looking stupid, afraid of losing your mind, going crazy, wasting time, the list will be nearly endless. But logic would demand you go seek the answers out, to potentially relieve yourself of a false belief about death. Interestingly many atheists haven’t done much work to truly prove death is final by looking seriously at the evidence that death is not final. So again, you can see they have feelings about it all too. Atheists are people who are angry about something they apparently don’t believe is even real. If that doesn’t highly an illogical emotion being in existence then I don’t know what does 😅 One of the biggest investments people have in death being final is that if it’s not you might have eternity to face up to the consequences of your actions, and some people are so deeply unhappy underneath their story, they couldn’t bare the idea of going on another thousand years plus, and find that scary. To quote myself from a couple of years back. “I’m not afraid to die, but I am afraid to go on living” There was a hell of a lot of anger and grief underneath all that, much of it had been cried away and is gone. Much more is in the process of washing away. The more I do the more my life physically and emotionally improves.
@@winterroadspokenword4681You went on an endless tangent that no ever will read in its entirety and the part about atheists being angry, ignorant people was really odd and unfounded, not to mention unclear, opaque and really vague just like everything else you said.
We have no idea about the nature of consciousness.What we can see from our own experience is that we are not separate from the universe itself , and that the universe gives birth to conscious experience. I agree with Dawkins in that the ego dies at death which includes our personality and memories etc ,but I do think there is a consciousness running through the entire cosmos that is subtle awareness.
You don't need drugs, you don't need psychedelics, you don't need to spend years meditating in a cave; astral project once or twice and then tell me you're just your body... [Edit: explanation of how I astral projected several times, using a shortcut, in reply below]
@@TessMArt Why not try for yourself? I usually don't just scoff at things that I don't know are true, or not. Ever since I was a teenager me and my cousin were obsessed with trying to meditate and astral project and with trying to see if humans could do telekinesis, or mind-reading things. Once we even went to sleep with our heads right next to each other, to see if we could share dreams. I never put as much effort as I wished into meditation, but some experiences as a child led me to finding a seeming shortcut; through conscious sleep paralysis. Just so you know, in case you ever wanted to try it out for yourself. When you're going to bed try and see what the last thoughts you have are, right before you fall asleep. Try to remain conscious while your body falls asleep, you'll experience this very powerful vibration feeling/sound (similar to what people who do DMT describe); this can spook you, but let the sound overwhelm you and it will go away; then your body is asleep and you can literally rise up out of it. Some people try to roll to get out of their body, I just will myself up like I'm trying to float up. Apparently in the first attempts it can be hard to see your own body, and it can be difficult to fly into outer space; I had problems with both. P.s this explanation is for anyone who would like to try for themselves...
Ecclesiastes 9:5 "For the living know* that they will die,+ but the dead know nothing at all,+ nor do they have any more reward,* because all memory of them is forgotten."
@Vance Beazer let us go with your line of thinking for a minute. Something designed life and everything around us. The designer obviously has intelligence and purpose. That means the designer is also complex. So how did that complexity and intelligence come into being? If it existed eternally, doesn't it refute your argument that complexity needs a designer?
Not really hard, been waiting for it for a long time. After experiencing out of body for so many times you'd wish that the it will take you to end this fake reality.
Yes. Absolutely. We evolved to fight to live. We can’t accept that we won’t live forever. Most people can’t, anyway. So they desperately cling to any religion telling them they will live forever in heaven or some planet… Christianity, Scientology, Judaism, Islam… or will reincarnate… Buddhism, Hinduism or anything except dying for eternity.
@@loufrank1574 So what? Billions live and billions die. The only legacies remembered for a long time are often the really evil ones like Genghis Khan or Vlad the Impaler. Better to leave a good anonymous legacy than a renowned bad one.
@@shahidachoudhury6925 Do you believe there's a god up there somewhere who's going to give you a scorecard when you die? Like a teacher gives you stars for your homework?
"How could it be otherwise?" Well it could be otherwise if in fact the Creator does exist. Spiritually BLIND people cannot see that Reality in the same that physically BLIND people cannot see a rainbow.
@@LWS1989 Thank you. Coming from you I will take that as a real compliment. Jeremiah 29:13... "You will seek Me and find Me *_WHEN_* you seek Me with all your heart." --In other words, the Creator of the Universe says that He will REVEAL HIMSELF and Make Himself known the the person who will do WHAT those words say to to. IF anyone wants to have *ABSOLUTE PROOF* that God exists and to have it in way that is way way way beyond the remotest, tiniest shadow of a doubt... HERE ARE THE EXACT INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO DO EXACTLY THAT: Jeremiah 29:13... "You will seek Me and find Me *_WHEN_* you seek Me with all your heart." ...
@@messageoflove1969 Ah, so it's like the cosmic version of 'if you really want a pony, believe hard enough and it will appear in your backyard.' Got it. I'll start believing once I find that first unicorn!
@@LWS1989 The Creator has created humans with something called free will. You can use your free will and listen or fail to listen. Does Jeremiah 29:13 say anything at all about "believing hard enough" ???? When I was in college there was a girl in one of my psychology classes who sat next to me and always wanted to talk to me about God. Relentlessly, perpetually, she was non stop about always wanting to talk to me about God. Sometimes I would purposely sit in another part of the room just so that I wouldn't have to hear about it. Sometimes I felt insulted that she would think I would be gullible enough to believe that fairy tale nonsense. My main thought towards the things the girl had to say was "There is no God! It is your believing that there is one that is what makes you happy. I could believe in half a glass of water just as strongly and be just as happy." I was clueless. It's not about thinking there is a God or 'believing" that there is a God it's about KNOWING that He exists. that is what is offered. If a physically BLIND person has cataracts in both their eyes that prevented them from seeing a rainbow they could have surgery to get the cataracts removed so that they could see a rainbow. Spiritually BLIND people can use Jeremiah 29:13 to make the glorious discovery that God does in fact exist (as many many many people have done) or they can use their free will and refuse to hear it and therefore REMAIN spiritually BLIND to the awesome REALITY of God's existence. I hope the good day comes for you when you can make the awesome discovery (by personal experience) that God, The Creator does in fact exist. ...
For those who think that you will still exist in spirit after you die, I ask this question. Did you exist in spirit before you were born? The answer would be no in both cases.
Your spirit was not created before you were born same way the earth wasn’t created billions of years ago. Am I right if the answer is yes then u have your answer 🐈 boy
When you fall in sleep and have bad dreams who feel that you or your spirit ? Certainly there is no differences between a sleeping person and a dead person. That’s why in my country people say sleeping person are equally same as a dead body.
How do you know? What if when you die, you stand before God to be judged? Boy, are you going to feel stupid. I could see that sheepish grin on your face already.
As I grew up with my grandparents, after my grandmother died, I lived with Grandpa. I was 20 and started working. Every time I come home, I yell , since he couldn't hear well: "Grandpa, I am home!" We had a dog, golden retriever, and she was with us in the house even though she had her place outside. One day, I was at work, and my phone rings, my neighbour called me and said, "Your Grandpa has died." Within a split of a second, I had thousands of thoughts, left everything at work, and rushed home. I saw him there lying dead with open eyes. A scene that was stuck in my head for some time. My neighbours came and helped me out with the funeral, and the coroner took Grandpa to Chappel at the graveyard. We decided to have a funeral the next day. The following is an important part of my story. As I said, every day i come home, I yell: " Grandpa, I am home!" My neighbours were sitting in a house with me during the day. People come and stay for some time and go home. I was afraid of the night when I was alone with my dog. I could feel energy in the house. Cold frightening energy. I can't explain the feeling, but it was uncomfortable. To make things worse, my dog didn't want to come in the house anymore, even though she was ALWAYS walking inside. I called her, and she just looked and completely ignored me. I go to her lift her up and bring into the room. Moment I put her down, she turned around and went outside. I bring her again and close the door. She scratches doors, wanting to go out. Finally, I let her stay out. I kept my inner peace while awake watching TV and saying prayers, though I am not super religious. The 3th day after he died (we already completed a funeral) around 8:30 in the morning, I dream following: Grandpa opened doors of my room and as he opened them a bright light behind him, so bright its not yellow or white, it's more like colorless you can't even look at. And he yelled at me the same way I yelled to him: JOSIP I AM HOME! I instantly woke up in cold sweat, with my heart beating wild. I swear to God I was never scared or shocked than in that moment. It took me at least 15 minutes to recover. I left the bed and opened the doors all the way outside, and guess what, my dog walked in the house like nothing happened. I couldn't call her in the house for 3 days, and now she just walked in. Later, I was thinking that I had left a house around 6:30 on the day died and my neighbour called me around 9:30. That's probably time he found him, and I made a conclusion that when I had the dream of him, saying I am home was exactly 3 days after his death and his spirit was 3 days and nights in the house. That moment changed my life and my belief in life and afterlife.
Maybe it was just a coincidence. Don’t forget about all the cases where something like this doesn’t happen when someone in the family dies. In a natural universe with no afterlife, statistics dictates coincidences will happen sometimes. Don’t fall for confirmation bias.
@Pete Miller it might be a coincidence who knows. But why didn't the dog want to walk in the house? I mean, she had her spot in the living room and always went into the house, except these 3 days. My guess is that as dogs have much bigger senses than us humans, she senses surrounding much better.
When one of my grandpas has died, that was the worst time to be lucid, or stay in that house, with all the commotion and despair. I can assume you've had more out there dreams than that, I surely have had, and oftentimes dreams pick up information from daily life or show us what we are concerned with. Although the origin of dreams is not yet known, these 2 traits are recurring in my experience, and it's irresponsiible to yourself to jump to a supernatural conclusion. So many crazy dreams have I had: stuck with my 6th grade class in a maze house, dresed as 70's people, Ancient Greece time travel, gender swaps and awkward social interactions, getting married. Especially after you've been through such a sad event, when you are at your most vulnerable, Josip
@@ernestkhalimov748I don’t think people like you want it to be real anyway to be honest..your brain and way of thinking truly couldn’t handle that if it was. To me, most intelligent people are atleast open minded to the possibility of that being true.
This is exactly what I think. I wish I didn’t. But I’m too intelligent to think otherwise. Your spirit lives through the stories and memories everyone else thinks and talks about you. Please live every second of your life truthfully and earnestly. Take chances. Love hard. !!
seeing lights at the end of the tunnel is not the only thing but pure accurate description of things impossible to have seen while laying dead have been reported. A few testimonies I've heard, a forgotten stethoscope on top of a cabinet, a serial number on top of a medical machine, description of events of doctors performing emergency procedures on the patient in the next room. These are just a few short testimonials of patients who died and revealed, after being brought back to life, what they saw. There was many more I read but I forgot many.
One of the best examples is that of Sam Kinison as he was dying on the side of the road after a head-on collision. Kinison stumbled out of his car and cried that he didn't want to die, asked "Why now" Then he paused to wait for the answer and he replied with a smile "oh, okay, okay" as he passed away
Which proved... what? That a brain going into shock or dying of oxygen starvation can see and hear things? Or that he was talking to a supernatural being? Which of those do you believe is more probable and consistent with reality? Occam's razor says the former.
@@kevindavis5966 Occam's razor is kinda BS tbh we can say the former since we have many more data of it happening, at the end we cannot be sure tho and we can only try to understand what we record as data
@@viperking6573 No, you have ZERO evidence of the former ever happening, even if you believe it’s happened to you. People claiming to have spoken with a supernatural being is not evidence, any more than the multitude of people claiming to have seen Bigfoot is.
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Why does no one ever ask what do you think happens before we are born.
How by its own the first rna was created which is similar to billions line code , ur r saying that no one designed the code
and thus someone came up with the concept of reincarnation
Because it's just the same as after death.
@@real_world_view_- OP asked nothing about RNA. But RNA and DNA isn't a code. We just use that expression as a way to explain a complex concept. Analysis of DNA shows very clearly that it isn't designed
@@capitalb5889 A simple challenge from quran if you have dare then create small thing like fly
“I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” - Mark Twain -
Yeah cuz nothing matters if you ask a alcoholic depressed racist. If it did mark twain might have to attune for his actions.
_"I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born."_
Not true. The "I" Twain alleges to have existed, actually hadn't. Only upon his creation did he, as "I", begin to exist.
Twain cannot logically equate non-existence, with the upcoming period that is to follow the death of his earthly body.
That is to say, the two states MAY, in fact, turn out to both be tantamount to non-existence, but it is a logical error for Twain to deduce this. Whether his consciousness lives beyond his body is a fact Twain cannot know via such a comparison.
The arrogance in this quote.
He was not dead. Something can only be dead after it has been alive. This aligns with the definition of the word dead- *No longer* alive.
Lol bet he’s not saying that now!!
Yeah but then you didnt want to live - EL
The only thing more dangerous than ignorance is arrogance!
Man, how could you compare arrogance here just think if one didn't believe and die and other who did who is the winner here, if there truely a greater power(god, creationist) exist then what's the solution hereafter for non believer, anyway no one fails if there's nothing happens after death just lost senses not a matter of depate anymore. But rather atleast it gives some peace ✌️ and positivity in society, i truely believe there's god bcs of my story.
Amen to that
in a nutshell you've just described religious claims...
There is nothing arrogant about Richard Dawkins .
You’ve just defined the word “stupid”- the act of being arrogant in one’s ignorance.
Definition of death: you don't come back. If you did, you were not dead.
or in the process of dying but saved by medicine. Thats more likely actually
@@damian-795 everyone is in process of dying by the second we are born. Medicine just delays the inevitable in the end.
Exactly it’s the death of this body not the soul yes we all die it’s just a body a vessel but we have souls I’m young my mom had my eldest brother and I wasn’t even human yet doesn’t mean I wasn’t existing and I was born 4 years later where was I those years? Or where was I when my mom was growing up? I simply just wasn’t on earth yet and I have another brother born 4 years after me we simply come be humans when it’s time and we leave when it’s time
@@sosa_reincarnation7050you didn’t exist before that.
@@leebliss3622 ... or did we?
But in a different form, one without the physical form.
It's the basis of the belief in reincarnation.
"What happens after you die? A lot of things happen after you die--they just don't involve you." Louie C.K.
truth.
Genius
Y3s it involved u ..its u energy
Love Louie CK.
Ha ha droll but true!
"Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome." - Isaac Asimov
So true.
I cried when I saw the doctor slap my mother.
@@GregMoress bro what the fuck
@@GregMoress bro I cried when my mother slapped the doctor no cyap
I used to love reading Asimov's books
Well, to be honest, we don't really know if death is "peaceful." And you can't believe, too much, what someone experienced when they "came back from the dead." Remember, their brain was starving for oxygen and I can't even begin to imagine the hallucinations one might "see."
Richard Dawkins was the kid in the school that told everyone Santa is not real
And would you be the one that didn't believe him?
He probably believes in gaia.
Well he was right, by the looks of it
Wait Santa isn't real? 🥺
@@tubsy. There's always Uncle Sam to bring you free presents.
সূরা আল-ওয়াকিয়াহ (الواقعة), আয়াত: ৪৭
وَکَانُوۡا یَقُوۡلُوۡنَ ۬ۙ اَئِذَا مِتۡنَا وَکُنَّا تُرَابًا وَّعِظَامًا ءَاِنَّا لَمَبۡعُوۡثُوۡنَ ۙ
উচ্চারণঃ ওয়া কা-নূইয়াকূলূনা আইযা-মিতনা-ওয়া কুন্না-তুরা-বাওঁ ওয়া ‘ইজা-মান আইন্নালামাব‘ঊছূন।
অর্থঃ And they used to say, "When we die and become dust and bones, are we indeed to be resurrected?
সূরা আল-ওয়াকিয়াহ (الواقعة), আয়াত: ৪৮
اَوَاٰبَآؤُنَا الۡاَوَّلُوۡنَ
উচ্চারণঃ আওয়া আ-বাউনাল আওওয়ালূন।
অর্থঃ And our forefathers [as well]?"
সূরা আল-ওয়াকিয়াহ (الواقعة), আয়াত: ৪৯
قُلۡ اِنَّ الۡاَوَّلِیۡنَ وَالۡاٰخِرِیۡنَ ۙ
উচ্চারণঃ কুল ইন্নাল আওওয়ালীনা ওয়াল আ-খিরীন।
অর্থঃ Say, [O Muhammad], "Indeed, the former and the later peoples
সূরা আল-ওয়াকিয়াহ (الواقعة), আয়াত: ৫০
لَمَجۡمُوۡعُوۡنَ ۬ۙ اِلٰی مِیۡقَاتِ یَوۡمٍ مَّعۡلُوۡمٍ
উচ্চারণঃ লামাজমূ‘ঊনা ইলা-মীকা-তি ইয়াওমিম মা‘লূম।
অর্থঃ Are to be gathered together for the appointment of a known Day."
সূরা আল-ওয়াকিয়াহ (الواقعة), আয়াত: ৫১
ثُمَّ اِنَّکُمۡ اَیُّہَا الضَّآلُّوۡنَ الۡمُکَذِّبُوۡنَ ۙ
উচ্চারণঃ ছু ম্মা ইন্নাকুম আইইয়ুহাদ্দাললূনাল মুকাযযি বূন।
অর্থঃ Then indeed you, O those astray [who are] deniers,
Islam is a false religion bro
The best answer given was "The ones who love us will miss us!"
Keanu Reeves
best answer I have ever heard, it was also natural response from him you could tell
I know what I feel and I feel that I will meet my maker.
@James Smith say hi to him from me in his own language when you meet your ''Maker''
Who loves ya baby?
Kojak.
Keanu Reeves also said: "You're going to die, so create something".
“Do you remember what it was like before you were born?”
“No”
“Yeah, it’s exactly like that”
Bill burr
What gives him the authority to make that analogy when he hasn't experienced death?
@@DesertVox come on, don’t be obtuse. There are two states you and I have been in so far. But you’ve only experienced and know of one of those states - being alive. Forget the age of the earth/universe…. Let’s just focus on what we know for a fact. Your mother and father lived for quite some time before you were conceived and then born. But they were absolutely essential to create you. So let’s plot just the time they have been alive… for arguments sake, they were both 20 when they met and you were born when your mother was 25. From their birth to the age of 25, you did NOT exist. Rare earth theory and the benefit of perfect hindsight, we know you WILL exist shortly.
That was state 1. Not yet alive.
Then you were conceived, and born and grew up. That’s state 2.
State 1 is impossible for YOU to remember or experience. But that state is quantifiable because we DO know that there was a universe then. An earth. Society. I mean, your parents were going on dates.
State 2 is you’re experiencing right now - being alive.
So there you go, 2 states that definitely happened. One you can’t remember and one you’re living in real-time.
Don’t you think it’s far more likely that when we die, we just die? The chances of you being born at all were infinitesimally small requiring that your parents met, and each of their parents met, and each of their parents met, going back thousands of generations. Between not being born, being alive and being dead, it’s LIFE that’s the standout. The exception. Why do you think you get to keep going somewhere else after death?
@@dundermifflinitythis sounds corrupt.
But many people have deja Vu and remembered experiences from before they were born.
“After we die, the ones who love us will miss us” - Keanu Reeves
no they don't lol because they're gonna die as well
In an instant? Wow 😮
@@aiya5777not instantly
Very low iq oxygen thieves quote professional liars. Ie, actors
@@trvpgame7710 it's instant compared to even the current age of the universe
When you die you rot. Correct
Rot where in hell?
@@saviourofworld Sorry,,SAv ,,,You didn’t get the memo…there is no hell
@MajinBuu-oo3vn according to hinduism earth is a sphere and we live on the surface
@@saviourofworld Hinduism too says a monkey ate the sun, so we're gonna believe that shit? Lmfao
Yes you rot but your soul does not
We live between two eternities, one before you are born and one after you die. Eternity is the absence of time
this is also an eternity ;)
Theres only one eternity and we exist within it
@@BillyRankin-q5g we are it
Which is even scarier 😢
@@jamesgannon2254 infinitesimal, yes!
It was very generous of Dawkins to say Piers Morgan has an evolved brain.
Where did he say that? He meant the universal "you".
@@ScribblebytesWorldwideit’s a smear don’t take it too seriously otherwise you miss the point. I think just through implication it works regardless.
@@Tortoiseking813 hating on Piers Morgan for no reason is also generous to use the phrase evolved brain
Funny you say that because Richard himself said when I die my body will decay and EGO mistreating words to use.
Because he knows what he said there is nothing but ego. You can have your issues with religion but to completely deny that there might be anything not even a god after death is beyond ignorant for him
@Woke Slapper I will humour you for a minute... if "god" rejects people in an afterlife then that god isn't an all loving god
Piers Morgan can't believe that someone as great as Piers Morgan could just cease to exist
And so it goes for all the believers of the world.
😂
He has the mind of a juvenile delinquent at a boarding school
Do you mean 'cease' to exist for the blink of an eye? The Bible is pretty specific about what death is, what happens after that and what is the final outcome. The 3rd verse below agrees with Mr. Dawkins, the Bible should not be dismissed because he is unaware of that as well as the final stage.
Ec:3:20:
All go unto one place;
all are of the dust,
and all turn to dust again.
Ec:12:7:
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was:
and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Vs:1-7 is about man aging, teeth are grinders, windows are eyes, bow is what a back does. 120 years is the limit God set in Ge:6
Ec:9:10:
Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do,
do it with thy might;
for there is no work,
nor device,
nor knowledge,
nor wisdom,
in the grave,
whither thou goest.
The wrath Job is referencing, it is when God sends Satan to the lake. The event after that is the Great White Throne event that sees everyone in the Re:20:5 list come back to life like a few people did 1,000 years earlier. The 1st group end up living in New Jerusalem in the new earth, they never come out. The people that enter in Re:21 are the people from Re:20:5. They leave the city, are given in marriage and taken to different worlds all over the universe. Ge:1 is repeated for each couple. That is where they start to build the homes (watch as it is built by others), are given in marriage at the age of 20, have 100 children by the time they are 120 years old.
God brings that new child at that time, and they meet their 'older brothers' who are learning everything a perfected angel has to know. They also meet god who gives the water and foot that changes their eternal body into one that does not need food to remain alive. They can travel the whole universe in their 'Grandpa' stage of life that lasts for the eternity of the new earth.
The Angels in Mount Sion are in their perfected heaven, at that time they will be given in marriage, have a child that is born perfected like Christ, the child of God and the Holy Spirit (Ge:1:1-2). Ge:1 was spoken into existence as an inheritance for their child. When Mary of Bethany is back in Mount Sion she will be perfected, Christ and her will be given in marriage. So will everyone else there that is single.
That is when this verse is fulfilled:
M't:5:48:
Be ye therefore perfect,
even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Ge:1:1-2:
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
And the earth was without form,
and void;
and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Ge:1:26-27:
And God said,
Let us make man in our image,
after our likeness:
and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea,
and over the fowl of the air,
and over the cattle,
and over all the earth,
and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God created he him;
male and female created he them.
I, personally, have had spiritual experiences and know others who have had, as well. I grateful for the knowledge I've acquired. No one should have so big an ego that they refuse to believe in something bigger than themselves.
How sad to be limited by only that which can be proven. Many generations since the dawn of time have had breakthroughs which have shattered fundamental notions of what we thought we knew.
I simply can not understand people who believe there is nothing after death. I mean, if there's really nothing after death then what's the point of life and this existince anyway? It's stupid and it does not make sense at all.
@@pyroxxx I agree, the nihilist view point seems sad and pointless imo.
"Everyone wants to go to Heaven, but nobody wants to die."
Too afraid to die, Ozzy
that's why people commit suicide :) I'm not afraid of death, I'm afraid of suffering in life. I am more worried about the experiences of relatives after my death.
Yes people don't really believe in an afterlife otherwise they wouldn't be afraid to die. Great point
True...death is always feared...there's always the feeling of uncertainty...death is organic. And there is life after death...we all gonna be judged...most religions believed there's life after death
Everyone wants to go to Heaven but many don't want to believe in God who created Heaven.
Being dead is like being stupid it’s only painful for others - Ricky Gervais
“Like being stupid”
“It’s only painful for others”
The parents of a terrified child dying of Leukaemia would beg to differ!!
Sorry but the brilliant cognitive scientist Noam Chomsky’s poignant statement still stands since the rise of militant atheism..... “I don't join the New Atheists. So, for example, I wouldn't have the arrogance to lecture some mother who hopes to see her dying child in Heaven - that's none of my business.” (Noam Chomsky)
"It is quite possible--overwhelmingly probable, one might guess--that we will always learn more about human life and human personality from novels than from scientific psychology. The science-forming capacity is only one facet of our mental endowment.” (Noam Chomsky)
Furthermore, according to the brilliant author and Oxford lecturer C.S. Lewis….
“If there was no intelligence behind the universe, no creative mind. In that case, nobody designed my brain for the purpose of thinking. It is merely that when the atoms inside my skull happen, for physical or chemical reasons, to arrange themselves in a certain way, this gives me, as a by-product, the sensation I call thought. But, if so, how can I trust my own thinking to be true? It's like upsetting a milk jug and hoping that the way it splashes itself will give you a map of London. But if I can't trust my own thinking, of course I can't trust the arguments leading to Atheism, and therefore have no reason to be an Atheist, or anything else.” (C. S. Lewis).
Equally, the late Professor Haldane of Oxford University said concerning the logical conclusion of a strict naturalism: “If my mental processes are determined wholly by the motions of atoms in my brain, I have no reason to suppose that my beliefs are true … and hence I have no reason to suppose that my brain to be composed of atoms.”
Not in my world
@@jamescokl3Are you saying people won't be upset when you die?
@@jamescokl3 Sorry to hear they are a miserable bunch. Hope you have good friends that treat you well.
@Bakeroo Thanks a lot for your concern. You sound like a beautiful human being.. I just focus on now and have done it for years. If you are in the now and that includes not thinking you fine so much release and freedom. It's very hard to get there, but it's worth it.
After all these years people are shocked to hear Richard Dawkins say something like that.
it's Piers Morgan, so what can we expect!
@@mediterraneanworld I like Piers though lol I don't agree with everything he says but I don't hate him either.
"Good one" !!!!! ...and very true. 👀🇺🇸🖖💜
There are still parts of the world, like the middle east, where the idea of there not being a god is something that people may find hard to conceptualise.
Exactly, people like hearing easy comforting lies rather than the harsh complex truth.
My son died, and people lie to me, to comfort me n say your son is still with you, watching you, to turn off the mourning emotions.
When your love one dies, its a big painful terrible hole in their hearts.
I'm sure he will always be proud of you 🙏🏽💜
He doesn't exist anymore. Even my parents don't!
Religion corrupts happiness meaning with no solution is a religion just try to be happy your no perfect neither is he I believe God is is good in saving people but I don't think he solves mental illness he thinks it's choice rather even God is fate we make choices to care but it is tool humanity must focus on fate and forgiveness not some person who uses his emotions while he makes choices the only emotions we should practice is words and compassion and conpromise touch without these things maybe we are wrong
Nearly 80% of people believe there probably is a Hell. Only 5% feel they might end up there. INTERESTING? Satan (the father of Lies) is the lord of This World according to The Bible. IF it is True, the people who tell you that God is not real are either Blinded from The Truth or being used by Satan to Decieve You. If You Want To Know The Truth, Ask Jesus Into Your Heart. If You Truly Ask and Pray for God to Show You The Truth, He Will. There is Far More Evidence For God's Existence than You are aware of. God gave us all a Free Gift of Eternal Life. To simply Believe in Jesus as The Son of God, who Rose from the dead and has Power Over Death. Thats it! This world is just a testing ground. We return to where we came from. God wants You to turn to Him and put your pain and your sorrows on Jesus. If you turn to Jesus, HE WILL COMFORT YOU WITH HIS HOLY SPIRIT. He Is Waiting For You to Seek Him. "Ask, and it shall be Given, Seek and You shall Find, Knock and The Door will be Opened For You"
We won't know until we die. That's that.
Or we won’t know anything when we die because we’ll be dead.
@@petemiller2920 How does consciousness die when it’s not physical?
@@JesusSavesSouls As far as we can tell, consciousness is a process or function that brains do, so a more appropriate description is it stops, not dies. Like how walking is something legs do. If the legs die, walking stops. If the brain dies, consciousness stops. Just because consciousness and walking are not physical doesn’t mean they can continue after death.
@@petemiller2920 If that’s the case and consciousness is limited to the function of our brains, then how can we alter our physical reality with our consciousness? (Quantum machines).
Consciousness is beyond our brains.
You know even then anymore than you knew before you were born.
When I die atleast I don’t have to work anymore 😂
Amen!
Honestly makes me sad thinking about how much of the human population doesn't live and enjoy life but works as slaves "for the better good"
That's life nothing else 😢
Bro 😢
You don’t like your world , change your world
When I die ..I want to go like my grandfather peacefully in his sleep...not screaming and yelling like the passengers in the back seat of his Uber car...😂
@Kyushu Brit yes and that was before your time
Damn 😂
An oldy, but a goody
How do you know he went peacefully?You're not your Grandfather.
Man, that’s dark!
"I don't know" is perfectly sufficient
No it's not, this leads into skepticism.
He asked, what do you *think* happens, ofcourse none of us know.
"I know that the ones who love us will miss us" - Keanu Reeves!
Such an oddly beautiful way to look at it!
Then there was nothing ok 😂
There will be a lot of people missing Keanu someday❤️
Elementary way to look at it. Nothing profound about what Keanu said about death.
Dawkins hasn't a clue what he's talking about, just as we have entered this world, so we shall another. How can you be so short sighted and ignorant.
If one can be brought forth from a void, is there a void at all? Have we not been brought from somewhere else?
If he's speaking on the concept of "memory" or the sense of self and ego after death that's another discussion.
Many lifeforms undergo metamorphosis, the death and transmutation to another, what is life and what is death?
Take note, that a case of metamorphosis always goes hand in hand with a change in environment or what we would perceive as external circumstance.
What makes us think the same doesn't happen? That not only do we undergo transformation but that always happens in a symbiosis with our environment?
@Joe dirty71 just as much as there is no good reason to disregard that it exists.
Do you think understanding has been obtained and achieved by exploring and studying what is already known?
We gain understanding by attempting to understand what is not yet known.
That's half the problem with these scientists, they are parrots, they do not think or study outside the box, but revel and exist in preexisting notions and dogma.
That's why geniuses are rare. Because people are literally incapable of thinking for themselves and lack any courage to walk paths others don't.
They feel safe, confident and reassured when they solidify their beliefs in an already existing ideology.
The thing that upsets me most about dying is upsetting my family and the cost of a funeral. I wanted to buy a funeral plan but my beautiful greyhound needed treatment on her feet so she could walk without pain.
You did the right thing
I cried because I had no shoes until I met a greyhound that had no feet.
@PregoJoker I thought that would be good but it's a bit environmentally damaging. It's up to my family really but if I could I would have a natural burial with a tree planting in a regenerative scheme where there is no memorial. I would like wool shroud and either a wicker coffin or a reusable painted one.
@PregoJoker That was the intention until my beautiful greyhound cost me £3,000 for operations on her feet and £900 for dental care. She was a racing greyhound and at the.end if her career she went into rescue. She had some teeth removed there but only the basics because rescues don't have endless funds. . She is such a beautiful, simple and dignified soul going broke was the least I could do for her. She is so sweet and patient.
Nice to know that you have your priorities straight.
I'd rather believe that when I die I'll be somewhere else than to believe I'll be nowhere. What's the point of you living and having loved ones when you know after you die that's it.
The logic here is simple, choice is yours. Choose whatever you want to believe in. As for me and my family we shall see God
The logic is that you enjoy every moment possible with your loved ones and doing the things you love rather than deluding yourself. I the benefit that true and there’s zero evidence for any type of celestial theme park at all.
@@afvro75simply because you don't see something doesn't mean that it doesn't exist
@@yassinfarouk2800 true but it doesn't mean that it exists either. In fact, the latter is usually more common. So how do we go by believing something that actually exists in reality so we don't delude ourselves? Well.. that's by showing proper concrete and verifyable evidence for it. Anything else is unreliable at best.
@@afvro75 yes and God exists just look at the rules and the holy quran listen to it and see it and tell me what happened to you after this experience
@@yassinfarouk2800 you are joking right? Lol. You didn’t understand a word I said. Go back to my prior comment before you respond again.
Ego is a hell of a drug.
Tell that to Dawkins.
@@cjames9320 that was for him.
Well to think of it, how conscious you are when you are sleeping. You don’t recall the moment of transition from being awake to being asleep, do you? Even though you are alive!
In my view upon death you just cease to be awaken. You merely transit to unconsciousness and serenity without recalling anything bad. Undependent of the mechanism of your demise.
Which is quite a soothing notion.
@@juusotamminen2907You completely neglected the subconscious, the problem here is that you think you are juusotamminem (or your real name), you think you are that meat suit traversing through a physical plain.
What happens after death is what we call the knowledge of the unseen (الغيب) in the Arabic language/Islam.
our reference when it comes to that is the Quran; which we believe is a divine revelation.
There are signs of truth that are measurable, and scientific matters that the Quran talked about and events which it predicted very precisely.
All of that gives us certainty of its authenticity, which leads us to rely on its explanation of the after life.
Other than the divine explanation, no one knows because no one is capable of leaving life & coming back to tell the story.
Piers gets so defensive at the idea that his smug personality won't outlast his body
Funny. But just that.
Some people rot BEFORE they die..
Thats not being defensive, he is questioning his logic. But anyway it is written in the quran that they will not believe, even if you bring the biggest evidence
@@bakuryuu1009 There is no evidence.
@@janegardener1662 what is you evidence that there is no creator ?!!
I think if you can’t explain your beginning, you shouldn’t be sure how you end.
The problems is the certainty that most religious people have of their faith and its tenets! Science has revealed the mysteries of the world, life on it, and the universe. The bible--or any "holy" book--and all the religions that are or ever were, did not nor could not accomplish that!!!!!
One day, science may figure out the origin of life. In the absence of an explanation, the religious and the ignorant simply make up origin stories. And all the while, over the past five centuries or so, scientific discovery has whittled away at the "god did that" postulate.
Well he can, his parents fucked and 9 months later he was born most likely in hospital
Ahmed detected opinion rejected
Beginning was egg and sperm 😂
Which atheist always fail at doing. "we came from nothing" yeah okay lmao
When i was 2 years old i had a significant accident that gave me memory where i saw my father working to dislodge the meat grinder from my hand. I also remember watching him throw the meat grinder over our back fence toward a canal behind our house.
When i was 19 i realized my memory was an out of body experience as i listened to a roommate tell about an accident he had when riding bikes on the beach with friends. He fell off his bike and hit his head. He remembers being above looking down on his friends around his body.
We do have a soul, comprised of a spirit and a body. Our spirit lives on after leaving our body when we die.
Richard will find out soon enough that we live on after we die and are reunited with our family/ancestors who passed on before us
Please explain how that is evidence for a spirit or a soul in any way. How did you determine that you had an out of body experience?
@@LWS1989 He came out of his body end of story please explain how he didnt come out of his body …
@@Zalo975 Because based on our understanding of reality, it’s physically impossible for us to leave our bodies, and the mind is capable of hallucinations
"I'm not afraid of dying - I just don't want to be there when it happens!!" Spike Milligan - the great comedian.
No. Woody Allen
I told you I was. ill
@@russcooke5671 An apocryphal story about Levant is the old joke that his epitaph reads, "I told them I was ill."
Woody Allen Quotes ... I am not afraid of death, I just don't want to be there when it happens.
That's why i wanna go in my sleep. My worst fear is being aware im dying
I've been dying my whole life.
Life is sculpt by the hand of death.
You've been dying to tell that joke, haven't you.
we start to die the minute we're born!
@@infinitum5425Technically you start to wither away in your early 30s for most.
Don’t take life too seriously, no one gets out alive anyway 😂😂
When I die I will never hear Piers again - always look at the bright side of death 😅
You;ll hear Richard Dawkins and Hitchens?
😂
Excellent
🎵 Always look on the bright side of life 🎵
Amen.
"Where I am death is not, where death is I am not.” -Epicurus
"My balls itch.. somebody scratch my balls!" -Cheech
A man who famously believed in physical gods
@dreyri2736 Well, I really just like the quote and don't know much else about him. What do you mean by a "physical god"?
@@autumnstarrs he believed in the hellenic gods and that they were physical beings.
@dreyri2736 A tendency toward mass delusion happened back then as well. I'll hold on to the quote because I like it either way.
I think that's the only time somebody has accused Piers Morgan of having an evolved brain!
To be fair he was generalising. We all know Morgan doesn't have a brain.
Don't wander lost in life, design and information in dna comes from an intelligent Being because information can't come from chaos. God has sent Quran which is the last book, and to prove it is sent by Him, He challenged Human beings to make anything like the Quran or make the smallest chapter of it which can be written in one line, and it has been more than 1400 years and no human being can make it.
Naww are you offended that Morgan eats jokes like you of the alphabet gender soup for breakfast every morning?
When you break your ego you realize there's more than the ego
True self
Very true 👍 👌
@@ponkoadamfo997 how does one do this. Without shrooms or dmt please
Facts
U guys literally believe the creator of the entire universe adopted the human species as his children and that out of all the animals that ever existed, we're the ones that matter the most. Oh yea, what a humble faith.
'It takes something more than intelligence to act intelligently.”
Fyodor Dostoyevsky
How does this apply here
@@void0350think about it genius..
I have respect for him 😊
The concept of religion was invented during the dawn of mankind, by a villain, who was a genius!
Vladimir Nabukov
Who?
Surah al-Anbiya
104. On the Day when We fold the heaven, like the folding of a book. Just as We began the first creation, so We will repeat it-a promise binding on Us. We will do it.
Asking someone who is alive what happens when you die, is like taking sex advice from a virgin who's never seen genitals.
Funny thing because I’m pretty convinced this old dude here is a virgin
@@lindaj171they have experienced delusions. The brain does amazing things during hypoxia
@@americanearthling9671 try dmt, look up higher dimensions and 5th dimensional conciousnes, not saying that what near death experiences are but u should probably look that up quickly 👉 so much to learn bro it's kinda amazing
@@lindaj171 Im one of those people. I experienced it twice and I can tell you that nothing happens. It's like going to sleep. It does feel comfortable tough. No need to be scared of dying.
You really thought that was slick huh? 🤣🤡
I'm not afraid of being Dead. I'm afraid of being aware I'm about to die.
The you that says your afraid, is an illusion, a construct created by memory.
@@daniel08279 that doesn't help one bit
Or being aware... after your dead..
The cruxifaction is real bro. We have eternal life
So true. Being dead is the easy bit. Dying is the bummer.
A discussion between Richard Dawkins and Rupert Sheldrake would be really interesting. They represent two very different paths and ways of thinking in modern day biology.
@blackking3473liberals don't win any discussion against anyone lol.
And both are bull shit
there is life after death.
you're always dead before you're born.
Remember what it felt like in 1890?
Well, 2090 will feel the same.
You mean 1090
@@x-raymind7778He probably means 2090
Well said
I would agree with that statement but the nothingness we felt before we were born had meaning because it led up to the point where we are alive today. The problem with dying is we don’t know where that leads and that there isn’t a meaning.
@@x-raymind7778that works too
I was dead for a few minutes after my cardiac arrest. No tubes, no lights, just NOTHINGNESS.
I was dead as well but there was a very bright light and a feeling of myself leaving my body into another domain
Everybody is in the near death experience game these days, jump on the wagon and make up a story. All you need is medical documents.
What if we all go somewhere different when we die?
@@towerofresonance4877 every prock is on theres nothing train
@@eldhosesaji2327 you weren't dead
I am one off those people who have experienced death and for me , there is nothing. No light, no people from the past . Nothing. Which also means no more pain or worry, hurt, anger or hatred. It was comforting to me. A man that at that point had just completed all the 10 commandments (at least once) and used the 7 deadly sins for recreation. It truly was like sleeping in heavenly peace .
You haven't experienced death unless you wrote that post as a ghost
@@nigel4776you don’t know how it works. Being ignorant is funny to you?
@@Tequilacargadito You know how it works? Please, explain.
@@Tequilacargadito No explanation? Thought as much. Who's the ignorant party in this conversation?
You seem very alive to me, so I'm pretty sure that you didn't experience death.
We didn’t know black holes existed, or that the earth was spherical, so there may be a soul, we don’t have any proof. Lack if proof doesn’t mean the non-existence of something, it just means we don’t know. That’s the difference between an atheist and an agnostic.
The word soul does not even have a proper definition bruh
To assume tehre is does actual damage to the world and drives people into delusion. People need to stop assuming things without evidence.
And richard dawkins has said that he's an agnostic before.
The black hole a magnificently poor apology.
There was a time before we knew about black holes, even conceptually. However, we have always had this concept of a soul/afterlife.
The man there came a time from the theory of physics that the black hole must exist, but we had never seen one. We have never had any evidence of a soul, even theoretical.
Now we have seen a black hole and photographed it and many others have been detected over the years, proving the hypothesis that they must exist. But for the soul, it is nothing more than an emotional idea that hasn't progressed since the bronze age, and probably much before.
The "We don't know for sure" argument can be applied to anything. We don't know for sure that unicorns exist or fairies. Now what makes the concept of a "soul" any different than other concepts we brush aside as fiction? The reason many people assume that a "soul" must exist is because of their arrogance. They think themselves special and therefore above the laws of physics, which point to a strictly materialistic view of consciousness - in theory, consciousness could be simulated by a large enough computer. So theists need to explain what makes the concept of a "soul" different WITHOUT pointing to the bible as they often like to do.
I once had a dream where i witnessed an event take place two weeks before it did in the real world. I told my friends about this vivid dream and two weeks later i was experiencing the exact moments in real life, and was realising it as i was experiencing those moments.. It felt so weird I couldn’t think straight when i noticed and i had to go home afterwards.. there is more to life than we know
Deja vu then
@@hig1792 No, the exact dream i had, which i remembered consciously, was unfolding before my eyes in real time. It was a strange dream so i told my friends about it. Two weeks later it happened for real. Deja Vu is when you can't really figure out where or when you've remembered this moment. I get deja vu all the time it's nothing special. This however, was completely different. This was like a vision of the future
I have experienced it the same thing many times
I've had two people tell me that they experienced death. One overdosed and the other died during child birth. Both of them told me that a feeling of ease came over them, as if all their worries left them and they felt completely at peace. As for a tunnel, I would say that is merely your eyes shutting down. I also believe that it takes time for the electricity stored in the brain dissipates and as it does you re-live those memories and thoughts.
@Bannock Chief - could be as well some kind of chemical reaction in the Brain and Body which makes you feel that way. And the Tunnel with light, could as well be just a Prozess of fading away during the dying Prozess. (Seperatly from a god exist or not).
And fall deeply into a DMT trip.
@@kushlovetenent5478 *Joe Rogan has entered the chat*
nope, we have several people in our region experience the tunnel, they say you lose your body but maintain the sensation of your soul.
I went into vfib and then cardiac arrest and felt nothing but fear
The key word is near death! You don't actually die You came back! It's all in your head.
I believe those NDE are when dmt is released and that is our heaven when we die. Probably why they say get everything off your chest and make amends before u die because that’s when “hell” comes into play in a form of a bad trip. Not saying we just go to heaven with angles bc I like everyone else do not know but it’s definitely a place we go to after death rather it’s physical or mental I’m just a young punk tho what do I know
The New testament teaches that it's once appointed to die and after that the judgement, the new testament also teaches the the ressurection of the dead
@blake9358 It's just a book stories made up by men. There are many books.
What are the odds though that so many people would have such a similar experience?
exactly
The soul leaves the body a split second before +- when the Body dies , but it’s up to G-D If all souls will carry on.
😂 all religions are made up
Near death experiences. The key word there is near.
Near death I would say is a misnomer. In many instances, they are dead. If you are on the table and people are running a code on you, you are dead. They are just running an algorithm to see if they can restart your heart and bring you back to the land of the living. Some would say that those “near death” experiences are just your brain and body using up its oxygen and glucose stores but who knows🎅🏿
Exactly. They’re never ACTUALLY dead
No. They are pronounced dead. No heart beat. No brain activity. No breathing. We call that being DEAD.
@@basia2330 except when they are. some people have died and came back. near death doesnt mean that you were somehow still alive during that experience.
@@josesuokas217 when these people died, their brains did not die - meaning when they are temporarily “dead” they are hallucinating or dreaming. You can never come back from being brain dead
“I am not afraid of dying, anytime will do, why should I be afraid, you have go sometime” - Pink Floyd 1973
That's one of their roadies isn't it saying that on Dark Side of the Moon.
@@martydav9475 it is indeed and the album is now 50 years old, incredible !!
And then one day you find, 10 years have got behind you, no one told you when to run....
When your brain stops your mind stops. Energy doesn't create this reality and dimension and also another one because you deserve it. Coming back to life after death means you weren't really dead.
👍👍👍👍
The mind only being in the brain is nothing more than an assumption and an assertion. We have no idea how consciousness actually works.
@@IbrahimIsmail4889 Damage to the brain affects the mind. We know that. We also know that during sleep we are unconscious apart from the time when our subconscious does the dream stuff. We are conscious of our body and 5 senses so no body no 5 senses. Take away our sense of self and what would we be processing? An eternity as a ghost seems wrong especially as the Sun will burn out and the Earth would stop existing. No one mentions meeting alien ghosts in the next plane or do they have their own Heaven and Hell?.
@@IbrahimIsmail4889 The fact that lesioning some parts of the brain makes your Identity change it's enough to understand you're your brain and nothing else.
Exactly
What did he say in the end? I didn't catch it.
Read Susan Blackmore on that
The "tunnel of light" often reported during NDEs can, according to Blackmore, be explained by the brain's visual cortex reacting to hypoxia. As the visual system starts to shut down, people might perceive a narrowing of vision, creating the sensation of moving through a tunnel toward a light.
@@Ben-sk1ff Ah! Thanks!
@@Ben-sk1ff That doesn't explain the part about some people's account of 'looking down on their body' (which I kind of expected Piers to be going for here, but failed because he just said yes when 'tunnel of light' was mentioned), but that explanation does seem to work for the 'tunnel of light'.
I been with dozens of overdose victims & none of them told me they had any experience when they were brought round.
Its weird that nobody ever speaks to those people.
Ye I can tell you from experience I saw nothing and I went out like 10 times it 2as like anesthesia I was standing there one second in the day time and then it's night and im in the back of an ambulance puking into a plastic bag no time passed just a snap of the fingers and a rather confusing scary experience having a seizure is even worse it's like your brain restarts like a computer and for a few minutes you don't even know what you are ur looking at ur hands and shit like wtf am I??
I never thought about that, interesting observation
@@brandyfinley4957 Ive overdosed myself before more than once.
I was a Heroin Addict for 10 years & I thought dying was boring,theres nothing,its just like going to sleep,you dont even know youre gone but I also wonder if thats due to the opiate itself...Like somehow it stops you from having those flashbacks from your life that people talk about.
I also wonder if knowing you were going to have an overdose would make the experience different than if you just went over accidently.
Im a Psychologist & this stuff fascinates me Ive spent thousands of hours talking to Heroin addicts who have gone over but it can be hard to get coherrant answer from alot of them because of the education levels & mental health issue,most people dont even understand what Im talking to them about but nobody has ever told me they experienced anything.
Almost like they were unconscious when they had their NDE or something.
Yes I’ve noted the same thing listening to drug overdose stories.
I’ve tried to bring it to people’s attention but it doesn’t fit their fantasy narrative.
Love the way Piers says, "Really?" like he knows something Richard doesn't.
Its likely because Richard speaks in such a "matter of fact" way. As if he has died for a couple of days and was resuscitated and actually knows.
So you have it backwards,..Piers' response is because Richard is acting like he has confirmed, first hand knowledge.
It is completely unknown whether there is anything beyond death or not.
He cites evolution when he says,..."evolved brain" as he conflates evolution with death..
It is ORIGIN, not evolution, that gives us faith that there is something more.
@@stricknine8623 "As if he has died for a couple of days and was resuscitated and actually knows."
Good job avoiding his argument entirely which is that a brain is powered by nerve impulses. Also, if your god is real you should be scared to death of him. He genocided the entire planet once to demonstrate that "might makes right." You really think such a creature is a moral one who has your best interests at heart? Being on his "good side" won't save you if you consider what he did to Job's family. They loved god but were killed over a bet your god made with his chief rival. But Job got a new family, so the story had a happy ending (for Job at least).
@@stricknine8623 "he conflates evolution with death.."
Nope. You're twisting his words. He described the brain as "evolved" because it is smart enough to communicate, remember things, and have an ego.
@@havable
Its an absolute objective reality that he conflates an evolved brain with death and nothing beyond.
He wasn't defining the words "evolved brain" like you did
He used the words "evolved brain" as his refute to the idea that "an evolved brain would decay and anything more" would exist.
You are very slow.
He knows God exists.
No eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor mind imagined what God has prepared for those who love him- some guy along time ago
That guy is 100% right
Which one?
I like what you did there 😂👍
I died for about 2 minutes when I was 19 years old. I had WPW, and my heart rate jumped to 300 bpm. I drove myself to the emergency room of the local hospital, walked in, and they tried to cardiovert me without putting me to sleep. I remember the impact of the shock and then hearing a “beeeeeeeep” and everything goes dark. The next thing I remember is waking up in ICU. I was told my heart stopped for about 2 minutes and was basically dead. I remember nothing from the “beeeeep” and waking up in ICU. I do not even remember dreaming.
And you are honest and truthful. Who ever dies, know nothing about life and what is going on around him. He is in deep sleep, death, until the resurrection.
There is no sense of “time” during sleep. It’s as though you died and woken up instantaneously at the resurrection
That "beeeep" thing is mostly just from the movies, though some medical staff can set it to do so.
Damm...that's scary. I have WPW. It's honestly been acting up here the last couple weeks. I've broken out in sweats and have lost my breath a few times. I also feel kind of like an emptiness in my chest sometimes....idk. I should probably go to the dr...
@@SurfDog85 -- One has WPW from birth. I had a few not so bad "events" where my heart simply beat very fast. My first serious event happened when I was 19, and I could tell right away this one was different. I could feel my heart fluttering in my chest, I would get dizzy, clammy skin, and my vision started going dark from the outside in but would correct itself before everything went completely dark. With a heart rate of 300 bpm I walked up 3 flights of stairs, drove myself to the emergency room and walked into the emergency room.
A nurse took my pulse and got something like 88 bpm. The EKG machine measured about 300 bpm. If you think about it, one cannot count a 300 bpm heart rate. Just too fast. Also, there is a theory that one's electrical heart rate may be different from the physical heart rate during this type of episode. So both measurements could be right.
As for going to the doctor, yes, a good idea. If you are out somewhere and have an episode, you may not be able to get to a doctor. You may also pass out. When the doctors reviewed my blood pressure and heart rate charts, they were amazed, I did not pass out at various times during the episode.
One thing you can do is try to document what you were doing and eating or drinking just before an episode. I believe my episodes were triggered by caffeine or a similar stimulant. Actually, I had four episodes serious enough I had to go to the emergency room and get controverted. The first one was the worst, and it was almost certainly triggered by a flu vaccine shot. The last three happened while I was in college, and staying up all night studying for exams and eating coffee and drinking diet coke to help me stay awake to study for tests. I would eat a spoon full (or two) of coffee and chase it with water for the caffeine (no energy drinks during this era). I did not wish to waste time making or drinking coffee. Faster to just eat it.
I had corrective surgery in 1985, and it was open heart surgery at that time. Now it is outpatient surgery - no big deal. The problem is caused by a short circuit that bypasses the AV node. They do an electrical mapping of the heart, find the "short circuit" (stray fibers), and they "snip it" so that the short is no longer a short. Problem solved.
Clip ends just as it gets interesting 😮
If you search you tube for Pierce Morgan Richard Dawkins you can see the whole interview.
All he said was read Susan Blackmore
Yes! And im so sick of it! Amateur hour
It’s a short ffs 😂😂
sometimes Morgan is very perverse at time. Dawkins walks all over him with logic....
I had 2 heart attacks last year. My second attack all I remember everything went black. I had died. I see no tunnel. No lights. Nothing. All I remember minutes later all I recall is someone performing CPR on me.
Ditto
If you died, how are you still commenting on this video? Make it make sense!
You did not die. You just became unconcious.
clearly you didnt die. you were knocked out.
You were in sleep 😂
A man has two lives and he starts to truly live when he realises that he only has one life.
Or he dies because he now believes he is above God.
@@spiritedtruthseeker5929 Who is God?
Only have one life my friend nothing else after nothing
❤
Correction. We have one life on Earth.
I have so much respect for Richard Dawkins. He always sides with truth
HIS truth.
Only.
Not truth, just his belief
@@supersagamaster Shut the f up, Dawkins, like everyone else, doesn't know anything about this subject, so HIS truth is not the objective one
@@supersagamaster What? The hypocrisy! The top comment and yours stated that Richard Dawkins' nihilistic, materialistic and atheistic "truth" is objective. Keep being ridiculous and projecting your nihilistic view onto others. Cope
@@supersagamaster What? The hypocrisy! The top comment and yours stated that Richard Dawkins' nihilistic, materialist and atheistic "truth" is objective. Keep being ridiculous and projecting your nullist view onto others. Cope
{وَكَانُوا يَقُولُونَ أَئِذَا مِتْنَا وَكُنَّا تُرَابًا وَعِظَامًا أَإِنَّا لَمَبْعُوثُونَ}
Bro this shows that islam is the truth ALLAH SWT doesn't create jahanam but for these kind of arrogant people's
Swadakta.
@@abdullahbabakharkhail4315Allah doesn't exist and Muhammad r*ped aisha.
Stop talking arabic or go back to mecca!!
Beautiful سجع but these words have nothing to do with afterlife (which does not exist).
The only thing more frightening than not knowing the unknowable is a person claiming they do.
yes and even though death is all around us daily. a person can still deny they understand it
@@marvinmarvin2424 In fact we would be more honest to say that in spite of death's omnipresence, we still don't understand it, and may never, beyond whatever medical facts it provides.
@@peachmelba1000 So what could possibly go on when a soul has no memory, no senses and no body?
He does not.....SAD
To bad he didn’t read the Bible it explains what happens after death to you whether your a believer or not!🙏🏻✝️🙏🏻🙌
If you find a pulse after I die please turn my phone off.
Why?
@@bryant8647 He's saying the only "pulse" left would be his phone.
If you think about it, atheists have always been the psychopaths, sociopaths, and degenerates of society (e.g.Adolf Hilter, Mao, Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin)
and clear my history
@@bryant8647 whoosh
when I was undergoing an operation, I had an asthma attack as i went under. I was resuscitated by Oxygen pumped into my lungs, chest compressions and electric shocks. At NO time did i see a light, a tunnel or hear music, it was nothing, until I started to come round.
. I agree with Steven Dawkins, not the wishful thinking of most people.
I believe good things happen to good people after death. There is more to us than just physical matter
Proof?
@@justincredible. They said he "believed" it. They haven't made any claim, and they are still entitled to their belief and opinion. Be fair.
Nope.
Even if there is more than physical matter, than why would it be something religious or new age? Why not something that has to do with physics? 😅
@@bengeurden1272 Precisely! This infantile idea that spirituality implies superstition is just ridiculous!
A photo of his face upon the moment after his death would absolutely be priceless . In 1976 myself and 12 others fell through the ice that broke on a lake in the center of our small community, they told me i was not breathing for at least 10- 15 min, in a comma for three weeks upon regaining consciousness i knew who died and who lived, i was the only survivor, how would i have known that mr. smart guy?
Lucky Guess
Nobody knows. Christian’s and Muslins, you don’t know. Just live your life and be happy.
@@Somber-P
Read 1 Samuel 15:3.
You love killing in the name of Christ don’t you?
Its because your body shortly after death releases DMT , a psychoactive compound. Your brain remains active for minutes after death. DMT can make minutes look like hours as it distorts the sense if time.
There is no evidence that the brain can endogenously generate the sufficient amount of DMT in any circumstance, let alone near death.
People in valid reports have documented their surroundings in a hospital room well being unconscious which then later is a test by the doctor and others
Still can’t explain. OBE’s
@ozYes that's the one that gets me ... they can see things in other rooms. one2126
Once one finds the purpose of life he comes to know about death.💯
its the other way around
@@jacksonstone246no it’s not, he hit the nail on the head
He’ll find out one way or the other!!
Booom... Exactly 💯.
He’ll find out if he’s wrong, if he’s right he’ll be dead before he’s capable of finding out
No he won't.
@@simonb2109 he won’t die?
@@anthonydavis8861 once he is dead he won't know, feel, understand or "find out" anything. All his senses will be dead too.
There's the hereafter, when everyone gets a fair trial. All the ones who got away with their crimes in this life, they won't escape their punishment then
How do you know this?
...and then the rainbow fairy shows up and gives everyone lollipops.
Death, it's like an alarm clock, it really wakes you up. It's the only thing that's real, it's always there.
👽
Exactly!!! when you die you will wake up
Ah well actually it’s completely the other way … when you’re dead it’s the „ultimate deep sleep“ so no … it’s not 😂😂😂
There was an experiment done in a hospital to all patients in their death bed in case they came back from out of body experience after dying for a brief moment. They left a huge piece of paper on a higher shelf above the bed. There was something written on it facing up with huge letters. If the patient's soul comes back after dying they should be able to tell you what was written on that paper. None were able to. Soul is a spiritual thing, associated with feelings and religions and beliefs. No one is taking that away from you. It's part of our evolution, in how our brain works. But to say something happens to us after we die, is utter nonsense
You are lying about the experiment. „None were able to“ is wrong. The real
problem was that they forgot placing the piece of paper during the only real NDE.
You are referring to the AWARE study. The problem is, not one of them claimed to have looked at the shelf, so it can't be concluded one way or the other. This is why, among other things, AWARE II is being conducted.
Also, it sounds contradictory for evolution to make you feel good when dying. One needs to provide a strong reason for that, like some mechanism that it's very hard to select for feeling bad, that staves off death in the process.
Don’t let your last day be the first day you will realize what your life really means
I can't believe this is the guy that invented memes
He did invent the word. Susan Blackmore, whom he mentioned at the end, popularized it with her book “The meme machine”. Susan had an out of body experience of her own that was so real to her, she temporarily sacrificed her credibility telling everyone about it. I read her story as a mere weeks old believer in Jesus Christ back in 2000. Even though Susan had since convinced herself the experience was all in her head, I wanted to write to her to say I believed the experience was real. Why not, I had already failed the assignment I’d read it for. I don’t know why, but at that time I thought atheists just needed convinced God exists. As I pondered what to write her, a dream lead me to look for a book in my small town library. I assumed I would find something she had written. As I left the isle disappointed, a interesting title caught my attention. I opened a book where a reader had underlined the words “Anyone who dabbles in occult practices (listening some), opens themselves up to demonic influences.” I had read Susan was doing some of what was listed for her research. I found her email address and typed out what I had learned. However, in fear of her crushing my new faith I didn’t send it. Several years later when I was more secure in my faith and just after I had delivered a man from a demon that actually spoke out of him (side tangent it called itself “belligerence” and judging from what I helped the man deal with, it’s root entry point wasn’t occult but instead the man’s belief that his birth mother didn’t love him because she given him up for adoption), I did email Susan. We exchanged a few emails and towards the end I asked her if I was able to convince her there that God existed, would she believe He loved her. She said “No”. You see, atheism isn’t the problem Christians make it out to be. Unlike the angels that rebelled and were judged right away, for now, humans have a grace period to come to the understanding that God is who He says He is. Most importantly… “Love!”Jesus’s prayed as He was dying for our sins, “Forgive them Father, they know not what they do.”
Father, forgive Susan, she doesn’t know how much You love her. As well for the person reading this.
Dawkins invented the word meme. Susan Blackmore, whom he mentioned at the end, popularized it with her book “The meme machine”. Susan had an out of body experience of her own that was so real to her, she temporarily sacrificed her credibility telling everyone about it. I read her story as a mere weeks old believer in Jesus Christ back in 2000. Even though Susan had since convinced herself the experience was all in her head, I wanted to write to her to say I believed the experience was real. (Why not, I had already failed the assignment I’d read it for.) I don’t know why, but at that time I thought atheists just needed convinced God exists. As I pondered what to write her, a dream lead me to look for a book in my small town library. I assumed I would find something she had written. As I left the isle disappointed, a interesting title caught my attention. I opened a book where a reader had underlined the words “Anyone who dabbles in occult practices (listening some), opens themselves up to demonic influences.” I had read Susan was doing some of what was listed for her research. I found her email address and typed out what I had learned. However, in fear of her crushing my new faith I didn’t send it. Several years later when I was more secure in my faith and just after I had delivered a man from a demon that actually spoke out of him (side tangent it called itself “belligerence” and judging from what I helped the man deal with, it’s root entry point wasn’t occult but instead the man’s belief that his birth mother didn’t love him because she given him up for adoption), I did email Susan. We exchanged a few emails and towards the end I asked her if I was able to convince her there that God existed, would she believe He loved her. She answered “No”. You see, atheism isn’t the problem Christians make it out to be. Unlike the angels that rebelled and were judged right away, for now, humans have a grace period to come to the understanding that God is who He says He is. Most importantly… “Love!”Jesus’s prayed as He was dying for our sins, “Forgive them Father, they know not what they do.”
Father, forgive Susan, she doesn’t know how much You love her. Same for the person reading this.
My father was comatose for two days in bed with cancer, wasted away to a 100 lbs. Suddenly he sat upright in bed, his eyes bulging open. staring upwards he took a deep breath, laid back down and he was gone, the angels came to get him. Don't tell me there's nothing after we die
god moves in misterious ways .but sadly someone i know just before he died he sat up in bed pointed up and said i see geese flying backwards than lied back down and was dead there is also nerons missfireing and chemicals releised i dont have the answers but my coment just below you maybe give some insite .
There is life after life. I feel sorry a lot of people don’t know that yet… but one day they will.
@@zeroounce8874 how do you know there is? Because a 2000 year old price of paper told you? Written by people who pooped in ditches and beat their wives?
@@zeroounce8874 u will find out soon too. there is nothing for us after death. only memories for our loved ones
@@oscarmoody2173 😂 I have already found out. Had an experience of enlightenment. But hey you probably don’t believe in that too and I don’t judge you because I was exactly like you. Everyone will receive an understanding in their own time.
Watching him get old , made me realise that others must be looking at me the same way .
During my long career I resuscitated many who were clinically deceased. But I remember few who told me what they saw......he said "she was on my chest making compressions and you were holding my head give me oxygen with fingers in my neck". Many times like this patients have seen us resuscitate them.
My mom was dead for few minutes. No lights, no dead family members, nothing. Only blackness.
Seeing blackness is an experience.
She wasnt dead, just cause your heart stops doesnt mean your dead.
Death: "Why do people love you but they fear me?"
Life: "Because I'm a beautiful lie & youre an ugly truth"
No one dies because no one is born. Only God exists. Nothing else, no one else. 🕉️🙏
@@paradisecaregiving7126 That is not what I see all around me.
What do you mean no-one is born?
It would seem to be the case based on hearing many people speak about emotional processing work, that even fear of death is a fear passed to us in our childhood.
All fears appear to be releasable emotions through simply grieving what’s under the fear (grief is under every fear it seems).
Though there is no one on earth currently who has done this... there are those in the spirit world who tell us it’s possible.
My personal experience so far is that it seems to be possible with the things I’ve confronted so far, so it would be illogical to not work on the basis it will be true for all fears and keep experimenting.
The other thing which appears to be true, is that the truth is always loving. So death cannot be true.
Now, I have issues with many things personally. But it would make sense if there was a universal law about truth, that truth is always loving. Rather than it just being sometimes loving.
If the truth doesn’t seem loving, either we are getting an emotion confronted inside of us, or we don’t actually see the truth yet.
That’s the theory...but I’m rolling with because it’s not proven itself untrue yet, it sounds and feels good, it has on many occasions shown itself to become increasingly true for me already, and I haven’t found an exception yet, where I feel like I’ve worked through enough of the pain on the issue to make a judgment unbiased by my own inherited grief feelings about the issue.
So if life appears untrue, what are you in fact experiencing?
If death appears true, maybe you don’t understand the process fully. What happens after, are there ways you can experiment with this already? Are there highly recommended mediums you can visit, loved ones you know who have already passed.
Have you asked them to try and contact you, to help make themselves known, lead you to a medium event.
If you haven’t done these things already, why the hell not? It’s probably one of the most important questions we have on earth. So if you haven’t already, already it’s obvious you have emotions stuck inside about death, fear, looking stupid, afraid of losing your mind, going crazy, wasting time, the list will be nearly endless.
But logic would demand you go seek the answers out, to potentially relieve yourself of a false belief about death.
Interestingly many atheists haven’t done much work to truly prove death is final by looking seriously at the evidence that death is not final. So again, you can see they have feelings about it all too. Atheists are people who are angry about something they apparently don’t believe is even real. If that doesn’t highly an illogical emotion being in existence then I don’t know what does 😅
One of the biggest investments people have in death being final is that if it’s not you might have eternity to face up to the consequences of your actions, and some people are so deeply unhappy underneath their story, they couldn’t bare the idea of going on another thousand years plus, and find that scary.
To quote myself from a couple of years back. “I’m not afraid to die, but I am afraid to go on living”
There was a hell of a lot of anger and grief underneath all that, much of it had been cried away and is gone. Much more is in the process of washing away. The more I do the more my life physically and emotionally improves.
@@winterroadspokenword4681You went on an endless tangent that no ever will read in its entirety and the part about atheists being angry, ignorant people was really odd and unfounded, not to mention unclear, opaque and really vague just like everything else you said.
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We have no idea about the nature of consciousness.What we can see from our own experience is that we are not separate from the universe itself , and that the universe gives birth to conscious experience. I agree with Dawkins in that the ego dies at death which includes our personality and memories etc ,but I do think there is a consciousness running through the entire cosmos that is subtle awareness.
@@zmmz1238 we see memories disappear in this lifetime
I love the way you think
Complete gibberish
@@gotritons27 how so? Why not elaborate and discuss ?
The universe neither creates nor destroys energy...
Electricity doesn't just disappear, dissipate - it always finds a path
You don't need drugs, you don't need psychedelics, you don't need to spend years meditating in a cave; astral project once or twice and then tell me you're just your body...
[Edit: explanation of how I astral projected several times, using a shortcut, in reply below]
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Right
@@TessMArt Why not try for yourself? I usually don't just scoff at things that I don't know are true, or not. Ever since I was a teenager me and my cousin were obsessed with trying to meditate and astral project and with trying to see if humans could do telekinesis, or mind-reading things. Once we even went to sleep with our heads right next to each other, to see if we could share dreams.
I never put as much effort as I wished into meditation, but some experiences as a child led me to finding a seeming shortcut; through conscious sleep paralysis. Just so you know, in case you ever wanted to try it out for yourself.
When you're going to bed try and see what the last thoughts you have are, right before you fall asleep. Try to remain conscious while your body falls asleep, you'll experience this very powerful vibration feeling/sound (similar to what people who do DMT describe); this can spook you, but let the sound overwhelm you and it will go away; then your body is asleep and you can literally rise up out of it. Some people try to roll to get out of their body, I just will myself up like I'm trying to float up.
Apparently in the first attempts it can be hard to see your own body, and it can be difficult to fly into outer space; I had problems with both.
P.s this explanation is for anyone who would like to try for themselves...
Ecclesiastes 9:5 "For the living know* that they will die,+ but the dead know nothing at all,+ nor do they have any more reward,* because all memory of them is forgotten."
It's like expecting a colour blind person, to understand the whole spectrum of colours.
As you do!? 😆 Evidence? 🤷🏻♂️
Or expecting a logical mind to come to illogical conclusions ?
@Vance Beazer Evidence that it's not? No? Didn't think so.
@@Memovich47 explain time. Explain organic life. If you can’t, neither are real.
@Vance Beazer let us go with your line of thinking for a minute. Something designed life and everything around us. The designer obviously has intelligence and purpose. That means the designer is also complex. So how did that complexity and intelligence come into being? If it existed eternally, doesn't it refute your argument that complexity needs a designer?
It is hard to accept something like death.
Accept it or not, it’s happening 😂
Not when you learn about Jesus Christ. it all makes sense. This guy has a very shallow mind...
Not really hard, been waiting for it for a long time. After experiencing out of body for so many times you'd wish that the it will take you to end this fake reality.
Yes. Absolutely. We evolved to fight to live. We can’t accept that we won’t live forever. Most people can’t, anyway. So they desperately cling to any religion telling them they will live forever in heaven or some planet… Christianity, Scientology, Judaism, Islam… or will reincarnate… Buddhism, Hinduism or anything except dying for eternity.
@@blucodilla5036 reality is not fake.
The real afterlife is the legacy you leave behind.
after awhile your legacy will be forgotten too
@@loufrank1574 So what? Billions live and billions die. The only legacies remembered for a long time are often the really evil ones like Genghis Khan or Vlad the Impaler. Better to leave a good anonymous legacy than a renowned bad one.
No , about getting results of your deeds in this life.
@@shahidachoudhury6925 Do you believe there's a god up there somewhere who's going to give you a scorecard when you die? Like a teacher gives you stars for your homework?
life is meaningless if there's no afterlife...
"How could it be otherwise?" Well it could be otherwise if in fact the Creator does exist. Spiritually BLIND people cannot see that Reality in the same that physically BLIND people cannot see a rainbow.
Spoken like a true acid head.
@@LWS1989 Thank you. Coming from you I will take that as a real compliment.
Jeremiah 29:13... "You will seek Me and find Me *_WHEN_* you seek Me with all your heart."
--In other words, the Creator of the Universe says that He will REVEAL HIMSELF and Make Himself known the the person who will do WHAT those words say to to.
IF anyone wants to have *ABSOLUTE PROOF* that God exists and to have it in way that is way way way beyond the remotest, tiniest shadow of a doubt...
HERE ARE THE EXACT INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO DO EXACTLY THAT:
Jeremiah 29:13... "You will seek Me and find Me *_WHEN_* you seek Me with all your heart."
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@@messageoflove1969 Ah, so it's like the cosmic version of 'if you really want a pony, believe hard enough and it will appear in your backyard.' Got it. I'll start believing once I find that first unicorn!
@@LWS1989 The Creator has created humans with something called free will.
You can use your free will and listen or fail to listen. Does Jeremiah 29:13 say anything at all about "believing hard enough" ????
When I was in college there was a girl in one of my psychology classes who sat next to me and always wanted to talk to me about God. Relentlessly, perpetually, she was non stop about always wanting to talk to me about God. Sometimes I would purposely sit in another part of the room just so that I wouldn't have to hear about it. Sometimes I felt insulted that she would think I would be gullible enough to believe that fairy tale nonsense. My main thought towards the things the girl had to say was "There is no God! It is your believing that there is one that is what makes you happy. I could believe in half a glass of water just as strongly and be just as happy."
I was clueless. It's not about thinking there is a God or 'believing" that there is a God it's about KNOWING that He exists. that is what is offered. If a physically BLIND person has cataracts in both their eyes that prevented them from seeing a rainbow they could have surgery to get the cataracts removed so that they could see a rainbow. Spiritually BLIND people can use Jeremiah 29:13 to make the glorious discovery that God does in fact exist (as many many many people have done) or they can use their free will and refuse to hear it and therefore REMAIN spiritually BLIND to the awesome REALITY of God's existence.
I hope the good day comes for you when you can make the awesome discovery (by personal experience) that God, The Creator does in fact exist.
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Spiritually blind people refuse to live a life of delusion
People don’t ALL talk about weird experiences if they die and are resuscitated. It happened to my friend and he remembered nothing whatsoever.
no iv been brought back 4 times and I remember nothing
For those who think that you will still exist in spirit after you die, I ask this question. Did you exist in spirit before you were born? The answer would be no in both cases.
There is absolutely no way of knowing one way or another
Your spirit was not created before you were born same way the earth wasn’t created billions of years ago. Am I right if the answer is yes then u have your answer 🐈 boy
@Joe dirty71 stay out of this 🐈 boy with a name like dirty joe u know F”all
When you fall in sleep and have bad dreams who feel that you or your spirit
? Certainly there is no differences between a sleeping person and a dead
person. That’s why in my country people say sleeping person are equally same as a dead body.
How do you know? What if when you die, you stand before God to be judged? Boy, are you going to feel stupid. I could see that sheepish grin on your face already.
As I grew up with my grandparents, after my grandmother died, I lived with Grandpa. I was 20 and started working. Every time I come home, I yell , since he couldn't hear well: "Grandpa, I am home!" We had a dog, golden retriever, and she was with us in the house even though she had her place outside. One day, I was at work, and my phone rings, my neighbour called me and said, "Your Grandpa has died." Within a split of a second, I had thousands of thoughts, left everything at work, and rushed home. I saw him there lying dead with open eyes. A scene that was stuck in my head for some time. My neighbours came and helped me out with the funeral, and the coroner took Grandpa to Chappel at the graveyard. We decided to have a funeral the next day. The following is an important part of my story.
As I said, every day i come home, I yell: " Grandpa, I am home!"
My neighbours were sitting in a house with me during the day. People come and stay for some time and go home. I was afraid of the night when I was alone with my dog.
I could feel energy in the house. Cold frightening energy. I can't explain the feeling, but it was uncomfortable.
To make things worse, my dog didn't want to come in the house anymore, even though she was ALWAYS walking inside.
I called her, and she just looked and completely ignored me. I go to her lift her up and bring into the room. Moment I put her down, she turned around and went outside. I bring her again and close the door. She scratches doors, wanting to go out. Finally, I let her stay out.
I kept my inner peace while awake watching TV and saying prayers, though I am not super religious. The 3th day after he died (we already completed a funeral)
around 8:30 in the morning, I dream following: Grandpa opened doors of my room and as he opened them a bright light behind him, so bright its not yellow or white, it's more like colorless you can't even look at. And he yelled at me the same way I yelled to him: JOSIP I AM HOME! I instantly woke up in cold sweat, with my heart beating wild. I swear to God I was never scared or shocked than in that moment. It took me at least 15 minutes to recover. I left the bed and opened the doors all the way outside, and guess what, my dog walked in the house like nothing happened. I couldn't call her in the house for 3 days, and now she just walked in. Later, I was thinking that I had left a house around 6:30 on the day died and my neighbour called me around 9:30. That's probably time he found him, and I made a conclusion that when I had the dream of him, saying I am home was exactly 3 days after his death and his spirit was 3 days and nights in the house.
That moment changed my life and my belief in life and afterlife.
Maybe it was just a coincidence. Don’t forget about all the cases where something like this doesn’t happen when someone in the family dies. In a natural universe with no afterlife, statistics dictates coincidences will happen sometimes. Don’t fall for confirmation bias.
@Pete Miller it might be a coincidence who knows. But why didn't the dog want to walk in the house? I mean, she had her spot in the living room and always went into the house, except these 3 days. My guess is that as dogs have much bigger senses than us humans, she senses surrounding much better.
When one of my grandpas has died, that was the worst time to be lucid, or stay in that house, with all the commotion and despair. I can assume you've had more out there dreams than that, I surely have had, and oftentimes dreams pick up information from daily life or show us what we are concerned with. Although the origin of dreams is not yet known, these 2 traits are recurring in my experience, and it's irresponsiible to yourself to jump to a supernatural conclusion. So many crazy dreams have I had: stuck with my 6th grade class in a maze house, dresed as 70's people, Ancient Greece time travel, gender swaps and awkward social interactions, getting married.
Especially after you've been through such a sad event, when you are at your most vulnerable, Josip
So your house was cold, your dog was scared and you had a dream. Cool story.
@@orionlax626 you have some talent to pick up certain words and give them another context. Almost like a BBC journalist 😊😊
The soul comes out, the body dies and then we're ghosts
You have to give him props for sticking to his beliefs. Free will at his finest.
@SheepOfChrist818 Amen
@SheepOfChrist818 do tell.. oh wise one?
@@Bundwich that's what an ignorant person would say, makes things easier if you don't have to think. but please do continue..
God isn't real
@@ernestkhalimov748I don’t think people like you want it to be real anyway to be honest..your brain and way of thinking truly couldn’t handle that if it was. To me, most intelligent people are atleast open minded to the possibility of that being true.
This is exactly what I think. I wish I didn’t. But I’m too intelligent to think otherwise. Your spirit lives through the stories and memories everyone else thinks and talks about you. Please live every second of your life truthfully and earnestly. Take chances. Love hard. !!
You’re not “too intelligent to think otherwise”. You’re just closed minded. No one can prove or disprove this so get off your high horse 🤣
seeing lights at the end of the tunnel is not the only thing but pure accurate description of things impossible to have seen while laying dead have been reported. A few testimonies I've heard, a forgotten stethoscope on top of a cabinet, a serial number on top of a medical machine, description of events of doctors performing emergency procedures on the patient in the next room. These are just a few short testimonials of patients who died and revealed, after being brought back to life, what they saw. There was many more I read but I forgot many.
Thts called hipoxia of the brani
@@PedroAmA Sure! Hearing conversations outside of the hospital while hovering mid-air is hypoxia
@@Adiaf8oros science is under no obligation to make sense to you
What was the last stuff he said? Couldn't hear it
Read Susan Blackmore on that
One of the best examples is that of Sam Kinison as he was dying on the side of the road after a head-on collision. Kinison stumbled out of his car and cried that he didn't want to die, asked "Why now" Then he paused to wait for the answer and he replied with a smile "oh, okay, okay" as he passed away
Beautiful
Which proved... what? That a brain going into shock or dying of oxygen starvation can see and hear things? Or that he was talking to a supernatural being? Which of those do you believe is more probable and consistent with reality? Occam's razor says the former.
Well. the nonbelievers will find out pretty soon😊
@@kevindavis5966 Occam's razor is kinda BS tbh we can say the former since we have many more data of it happening, at the end we cannot be sure tho and we can only try to understand what we record as data
@@viperking6573 No, you have ZERO evidence of the former ever happening, even if you believe it’s happened to you. People claiming to have spoken with a supernatural being is not evidence, any more than the multitude of people claiming to have seen Bigfoot is.