What are your favourite lenses for the gh5? Native and non native glass. I find it a jungle... To go 12mm 25mm 42.5mm and 75mm or to go 12-35 + 35-100 Not a lot of good tests covering the lenses and their updated counter parts
I can't answer that generally, it totally depends what you are doing and what you would like to achieve. The best allrounder is surely a sigma 18-35 with a speedbooster. You can almost live just with that if you don't need Tele. Then, I love vintage for narrative… gives more sould to the image. Canon FD are nice and affordable. Watch our latest episode. This is sooooooooo old.
@@MediaDivision Well isn't the full v log super flat? so I'm afraid that there is going nasty compression artifacts in the shadows when using 150mbps, and plus 400mbps all i is a lot better for fast motion imo, because I shoot a lot of things with fast motion, and my 100mbps codec is breaking apart pretty easily, so the 400mbps codec sounds perfect. BTW I love your content can't believe you only have 18000 subscriber, your crazy rolling sensor experiements are the best.
@@imabigsandwich1292 No nasty artifacs anywhere.... 400 all I is nor better in IQ the 150 long GOP (even according to Panasonic). Depending on the scene they have have a slight edge but nothing worth going after. 150 seem to be sufficient and the 200 HEVC anyways. Thanks man.... I'm working on it... give me 200 years to get relevant ;-)
Look at the date… this Video is over a year old. We are at FW 2.4 now, and it is very recommended for better Auto Focus… you will find it here www.panasonic.com/global/consumer/lumix/gh5_firmware.html
???? I am in focus... I'n not using Auto Focus. The softness comes from the anamorphic adapter and the fact that I don't use sharpener (cause I don't like eyebleeding fake sharpness)
Media Division Didn’t know that. You’re eyes are blurry and some parts of the face. Sorry didn’t mean to insult you, just personally frustrated with GH5 AF in general.
No offence taken.... if you didn't know I used an anamorphic adapter to test the new anamorphic mode you haven't actually watched the video ;-) GH5 AF is next to useless in Vlog with frame rates less then 50... yes. But beside Vlogging, I see very little use for AF. If I use it, I use it as "push to focus" funcion when I don't have a large screen/EVF to work with. GH5 is a great cam with a great image. I'm very happy with it. EVA1 will be even better… I will post a review end of the week.
Ofcourse it's indistinguishable. The whole point of ALL-i 400mb 10bit422 is the flexibility to re-contrast and re-color in-post production, without breaking the codec. Straight out the camera, and b4 regrading, it would look identical to 8bit420 compressed footage. If you don't grade, you don't need it.
1:46 it depends greatly on the taking lens - if you use lenses meant for fullframe, you can easily use 24mm with a 1.33x in "open gate". Obviously not with native MFT lenses :)
??? Should be exactly the same… and worse with a speedbooster. A 25mm MFT lens has exactly the same FOV as a 25 FF lens on a MFT sensor. FF lens is only wider when a larger sensor is in use. On MFT without a speedbooster the FOV stays the same.
FOV yes, but not the same projected image circle that you simply can't see. Fullframe has for more reserves, and obviously it's "worse" with a speedbooster (with the known benefits). In combination with an anamorphic, you simply can use wider lenses. I just tested this, with a speedbooster you can even use a 55mm - with a 2x :)
Anamorphic Desqueeze is in the camera. In the top Movie Menu (same as the open gate settings), the first one on the second page. I will say, I don’t know if you can change the squeeze. It looks like it defaults to 2x.
Just my guess, maybe the 400mbit/s codec is VBR in variable bitrate with an approximate 400mbit/s average bitrate "in normal conditions" but if you're not moving the camera at all it might not peak high so it may work ok on the Lexar 1000x but perhaps if you move the camera a lot and if you film something action packed like those waves then perhaps the peak bitrate might go higher and may not work on any slower card than a V90.
No, it is not. VBR codecs have to know "whats happening next" and need a second pass. GH5 would need a huge buffer and loss of power etc would destroy the file. I know of no camera/recorder that implements a VBR. If the mbps are always the same, you can tell that it is a CBR codec (HVEC is CBR on GH5). The image contend does NOT affect file size/data rate and I did test it... but as it is hard to film the monitor while doing that and it doesn't matter I opted for this setup in this.
Sorry, but he is looking like Yves Montand in Let's Make Love.Thank you for this Video, and the Fakt that the Lexar 1000x Card is working fine in 400Mbit. How do you mount the SLR Adapter to the Panasonic 12-35.
hmmm… I can't see it ;-) A ordinary step up ring like this one: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/6267-REG/General_Brand_58_62_58mm_62mm_Step_Up_Ring_Lens.html But I usually buy sets like this to always have the right ring handy www.ebay.de/i/261601615903?chn=ps&dispItem=1
Thx for this solid review Nicky! I see you're a professional, experienced and very informative. Look forward to see much more of what you have to share. Yes... I have found the same, I use the Lexar x1000 & x2000 cards and had no problems with them yesterday. I use CS6 and it liked the All-I with my workstation. Also I like the idea of a inexpensive alternative to extremely expensive anamorphic lenses for indie filmmakers like myself.
another solid "Germany made" review you made there my friend. Really cool ( your advertising behind is sick ! I saw it before and said it aswell, really good ) bis thumbs up to Mads Moldenhauer ;-)
Thank you Bernard! Mads kick morse codes "thank you" back. Can't wait for your big 200 vs 400 review full of fire, smoke, waves, rain, and world class acting... no pressure!! ;-)
HI mate , :) first thx for suggestion about lexar card. Finally I got my lexar 1000x 128Gb 150 MB/s , XC II , only 100€ , and work fine , no stop with 4K all Intra 400Mbps ,different frame rate setting . But i Need some help about all intra 400mbps files. playback on my iMac its weird , not fluid , like my pc its not fast enough , or i have to transcode files before import in FCPX? I work with FCPX 10.3.3 , on iMac 27" 3,5Ghz Intel core i7 , nvidia geforce GTX780M , 32Gb ram !! thx
Hey Vale… i can't reall ydiagnose tfrom here, if your machine can take the load… the cards in iMac are usually not the fastest. I edit with Premiere CC/Mac Pro Dual Fire700 … that is still quite a beast. I can edit at half res mode no problem but the 400mbps is not quite as fluent as ProRes HQ on the timeline. Just use auto proxies (ProRes 1080) and your iMac will chew through it like nothing!
Thx Nik , guess making editing and color grading on proxy its the only way for Me , dunno why i read in the web that all Intra was easier than Long gop to editing in timeline Good luck my friend
Yes.. I mentioned that in the description but there is only an on/off function for 2x… do I miss something? Not good for 1.33x (like mine is) or 1.5x anamorphic
when you shoot 25p, your shutter must be at 50, never at 60. Ideally, you'd always use the shutter/ISO option that you have in the camera & have your shutter angle always at 180d ;)
Thank you but this is not accurate at all… you look professional enough to know exactly when to go astray from 180° shutter rule. I made a 3 part compendium about the subject… see it, if you feel like it. In one, I show what happens in my particular situation, when I go to 1/50th shutter instead of 1/60th: ruclips.net/video/axzJddSIgoM/видео.htmlm27s
great video! could you please test if the lexar 1000x will work in c4k mode? thanks so much! cos there r ppl having issues with a v90 delkin card to record in c4k
Sure..... tested and it works just as well. As the data rate is identical they should behave in the exact same way no matter what the contend of the data stream is. For the cam/cards it is all just 0s and 1s
Firmware v2.0 should have in-camera de-squeeze and video guide lines for 2.39:1, 2.35:1, 16:9, and 1:1. See video here: ruclips.net/video/j16Wv1AOBLE/видео.html
It does, in the menu goto the first tab "Movie Icon with an M next to it" and de-squeeze is at the top of page 2. video guides is in the "custom wrench" tab at the bottom of page 4.
What are your favourite lenses for the gh5? Native and non native glass.
I find it a jungle... To go 12mm 25mm 42.5mm and 75mm or to go 12-35 + 35-100
Not a lot of good tests covering the lenses and their updated counter parts
I can't answer that generally, it totally depends what you are doing and what you would like to achieve. The best allrounder is surely a sigma 18-35 with a speedbooster. You can almost live just with that if you don't need Tele. Then, I love vintage for narrative… gives more sould to the image. Canon FD are nice and affordable. Watch our latest episode. This is sooooooooo old.
only if the lumix s1 can have the 400mbps all I codec :(
I'm a big sandwich I never use the 400 all I neither on the GH5 nor on EVA11... it doesn’t give you better IQ then the long GOPs
@@MediaDivision Well isn't the full v log super flat? so I'm afraid that there is going nasty compression artifacts in the shadows when using 150mbps, and plus 400mbps all i is a lot better for fast motion imo, because I shoot a lot of things with fast motion, and my 100mbps codec is breaking apart pretty easily, so the 400mbps codec sounds perfect. BTW I love your content can't believe you only have 18000 subscriber, your crazy rolling sensor experiements are the best.
@@imabigsandwich1292 No nasty artifacs anywhere.... 400 all I is nor better in IQ the 150 long GOP (even according to Panasonic). Depending on the scene they have have a slight edge but nothing worth going after. 150 seem to be sufficient and the 200 HEVC anyways. Thanks man.... I'm working on it... give me 200 years to get relevant ;-)
@@MediaDivision I see, wish you the best, I'm sure you will blow up this year.
@@imabigsandwich1292 Kabooom ;-)))) Thanks man
Did you post the behind the scenes of the making of the video in the background? I was looking to for it and cannot locate.
no, sorry... the customer denied it as several employees are in the images.
That makes total sense. Too bad, wanted to see that. Enjoy ALL of your other videos. Thank you & keep it up!
@@QuinnLandry1648 Thanks a lot Quinn, I'll try… and sorry again.
can i have v.20 software ? not found on panasonic website
Look at the date… this Video is over a year old. We are at FW 2.4 now, and it is very recommended for better Auto Focus… you will find it here www.panasonic.com/global/consumer/lumix/gh5_firmware.html
Great test,thank you. BTW,the SanDisk Extreme Pro SD UHS-II U3 300Mbps works quite well at 400Mbps All-Intra
Thank bridge… my next cards will be v60 or v90… on paid gigs, you can't afford a card to fail in the wrong moment.
Just watching professional videographers vlog with GH5 and not being in focus 90% of the time makes me angry as hell. AF is shit.
???? I am in focus... I'n not using Auto Focus. The softness comes from the anamorphic adapter and the fact that I don't use sharpener (cause I don't like eyebleeding fake sharpness)
Media Division Didn’t know that. You’re eyes are blurry and some parts of the face. Sorry didn’t mean to insult you, just personally frustrated with GH5 AF in general.
No offence taken.... if you didn't know I used an anamorphic adapter to test the new anamorphic mode you haven't actually watched the video ;-)
GH5 AF is next to useless in Vlog with frame rates less then 50... yes. But beside Vlogging, I see very little use for AF. If I use it, I use it as "push to focus" funcion when I don't have a large screen/EVF to work with. GH5 is a great cam with a great image. I'm very happy with it. EVA1 will be even better… I will post a review end of the week.
Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the explanation. Good videos by the way.
Thanks Muamer... my pleasure
Very interesting video thank you !
My pleasure Z! Thank you
Almoust perfect
good.... room for growth ;-) thanks Romain!
Ofcourse it's indistinguishable. The whole point of ALL-i 400mb 10bit422 is the flexibility to re-contrast and re-color in-post production, without breaking the codec. Straight out the camera, and b4 regrading, it would look identical to 8bit420 compressed footage. If you don't grade, you don't need it.
1:46 it depends greatly on the taking lens - if you use lenses meant for fullframe, you can easily use 24mm with a 1.33x in "open gate". Obviously not with native MFT lenses :)
??? Should be exactly the same… and worse with a speedbooster. A 25mm MFT lens has exactly the same FOV as a 25 FF lens on a MFT sensor. FF lens is only wider when a larger sensor is in use. On MFT without a speedbooster the FOV stays the same.
FOV yes, but not the same projected image circle that you simply can't see. Fullframe has for more reserves, and obviously it's "worse" with a speedbooster (with the known benefits). In combination with an anamorphic, you simply can use wider lenses. I just tested this, with a speedbooster you can even use a 55mm - with a 2x :)
Anamorphic Desqueeze is in the camera. In the top Movie Menu (same as the open gate settings), the first one on the second page. I will say, I don’t know if you can change the squeeze. It looks like it defaults to 2x.
Just my guess, maybe the 400mbit/s codec is VBR in variable bitrate with an approximate 400mbit/s average bitrate "in normal conditions" but if you're not moving the camera at all it might not peak high so it may work ok on the Lexar 1000x but perhaps if you move the camera a lot and if you film something action packed like those waves then perhaps the peak bitrate might go higher and may not work on any slower card than a V90.
No, it is not. VBR codecs have to know "whats happening next" and need a second pass. GH5 would need a huge buffer and loss of power etc would destroy the file. I know of no camera/recorder that implements a VBR. If the mbps are always the same, you can tell that it is a CBR codec (HVEC is CBR on GH5). The image contend does NOT affect file size/data rate and I did test it... but as it is hard to film the monitor while doing that and it doesn't matter I opted for this setup in this.
The background distracts :/
you might prefer him then ;-) ruclips.net/video/xXb3hl74Mew/видео.htmlm14s
@@MediaDivision lmfao
Sorry, but he is looking like Yves Montand in Let's Make Love.Thank you for this Video, and the Fakt that the Lexar 1000x Card is working fine in 400Mbit. How do you mount the SLR Adapter to the Panasonic 12-35.
hmmm… I can't see it ;-)
A ordinary step up ring like this one:
www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/6267-REG/General_Brand_58_62_58mm_62mm_Step_Up_Ring_Lens.html
But I usually buy sets like this to always have the right ring handy
www.ebay.de/i/261601615903?chn=ps&dispItem=1
Ha Ha Ha… he was 5 years younger then me then… so let me consider this a compliment ;-))))
Yes it a Compliment
I suggest you actually TEST V60 and V90. I was using V60 today and recording stopped.
Bad news… I don't know if I buy v cards at all as I record on SSD most of the time anyways, and if I record internal, the long GOP is fine
Thx for this solid review Nicky! I see you're a professional, experienced and very informative. Look forward to see much more of what you have to share. Yes... I have found the same, I use the Lexar x1000 & x2000 cards and had no problems with them yesterday. I use CS6 and it liked the All-I with my workstation. Also I like the idea of a inexpensive alternative to extremely expensive anamorphic lenses for indie filmmakers like myself.
Thank you Richard.... trying and improving ;-) The only way! Thinking hard about buying an Atlas Orion anamorphic lens. Keep it up mate
Cheers !!
In that video it shows the anamorphic desqueeze function in the menu at 6:18
ruclips.net/video/j16Wv1AOBLE/видео.html
I know... read the description... but only 2x, so I rest my case. external recording shuts down during internal recording!!!
265gb :)
sorry... germans say it the other way around... sometime I stumbles over that
Media Division oh no worries, thanks for posting this test, I appreciate the work brother!
lol panasonic. The fact that it took the first 12 seconds of the video to get focus on his face just says it all...
LOL.. I did't use auto focus
Hey!
Panasonic has introduced already the deesqueze function! It's in the custom setting menu!
I know… read the description (nobody does) ;-) but as it seems it is only 2x... so useless for the 1.33 I use
Oh sorry! Yes, it's only 2x... luckly i own only a 2x anamorphic lens
another solid "Germany made" review you made there my friend. Really cool ( your advertising behind is sick ! I saw it before and said it aswell, really good ) bis thumbs up to Mads Moldenhauer ;-)
Thank you Bernard! Mads kick morse codes "thank you" back. Can't wait for your big 200 vs 400 review full of fire, smoke, waves, rain, and world class acting... no pressure!! ;-)
hahahahaah right ! I got some good stuff in the pipe for sure ;-)
straight , clear and understandable ! like your channel
Very kind… thanks Vale!!!!
HI mate , :) first thx for suggestion about lexar card.
Finally I got my lexar 1000x 128Gb 150 MB/s , XC II , only 100€ , and work fine , no stop with 4K all Intra 400Mbps ,different frame rate setting .
But i Need some help about all intra 400mbps files.
playback on my iMac its weird , not fluid , like my pc its not fast enough , or i have to transcode files before import in FCPX? I work with FCPX 10.3.3 , on iMac 27" 3,5Ghz Intel core i7 , nvidia geforce GTX780M , 32Gb ram !! thx
Hey Vale… i can't reall ydiagnose tfrom here, if your machine can take the load… the cards in iMac are usually not the fastest. I edit with Premiere CC/Mac Pro Dual Fire700 … that is still quite a beast. I can edit at half res mode no problem but the 400mbps is not quite as fluent as ProRes HQ on the timeline. Just use auto proxies (ProRes 1080) and your iMac will chew through it like nothing!
Thx Nik , guess making editing and color grading on proxy its the only way for Me , dunno why i read in the web that all Intra was easier than Long gop to editing in timeline
Good luck my friend
Great video! :-)
Thanks Vegard
The desqueeze option is easy to find 'creative video' menu (top one). then its on page 2
Yes.. I mentioned that in the description but there is only an on/off function for 2x… do I miss something? Not good for 1.33x (like mine is) or 1.5x anamorphic
ah ok, missed that in the desc... yes, it just has on or off doesn't it.
Yes.... only 2x is not good enough ;-)
😉 oops - ruclips.net/video/-XcxFU11D5w/видео.htmlm30s
Am I the BBC???
it's all right, we all go through it
when you shoot 25p, your shutter must be at 50, never at 60. Ideally, you'd always use the shutter/ISO option that you have in the camera & have your shutter angle always at 180d ;)
Thank you but this is not accurate at all… you look professional enough to know exactly when to go astray from 180° shutter rule. I made a 3 part compendium about the subject… see it, if you feel like it. In one, I show what happens in my particular situation, when I go to 1/50th shutter instead of 1/60th:
ruclips.net/video/axzJddSIgoM/видео.htmlm27s
BTW... you couldn't tell the difference 60/50/48 outside either, the difference is just to subtile
for this reason you mention, the GH5 has one more option called "flickering" ;)
All you need to do is dial in the right shutter. If you need an option in cam to find that?! Go for it!
great video! could you please test if the lexar 1000x will work in c4k mode? thanks so much! cos there r ppl having issues with a v90 delkin card to record in c4k
Sure..... tested and it works just as well. As the data rate is identical they should behave in the exact same way no matter what the contend of the data stream is. For the cam/cards it is all just 0s and 1s
thats great news! thanks so much! :)
Many thanks.
Thanks Ron
Firmware v2.0 should have in-camera de-squeeze and video guide lines for 2.39:1, 2.35:1, 16:9, and 1:1. See video here: ruclips.net/video/j16Wv1AOBLE/видео.html
It does, in the menu goto the first tab "Movie Icon with an M next to it" and de-squeeze is at the top of page 2. video guides is in the "custom wrench" tab at the bottom of page 4.
Thanks... well hidden. Should be in the display menu
Obviously I am to stupid
Yeah I added them to my favorites menu and the touch menu
Do add it in the description or somewhere that you were wrong About there not being desqueze
Good test!
merci