This screen is AMAZING! - HP Pavilion Plus 14
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
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Alex thought this was just another laptop unboxing, but little did he know, this unassuming HP has a MAJOR upgrade. A fantastic OLED screen! Now the real question is "does the rest of the laptop live up to the hype?"
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Aggressively excited
0:20 Exterior impressions and ports
1:11 What else is in the box?
1:24 Initial screen impressions
2:08 Some minor frustrations
3:02 Laptop specs
4:03 Testing chassis rigidity
4:47 Trackpad and keyboard impressions
5:40 Sponsor - Enlisted
6:16 Speaker test and comparison - Crab Rave!
7:20 Display comparison with XPS
8:37 Gaming - Valheim
9:35 Gaming - Rocket League
11:39 Benchmark - Cinebench
11:47 Mic and Webcam impressions
12:38 Teardown
15:25 Overall thoughts
15:36 Outro 
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Over 75% of all aluminium ever mined is still in use today so I would be surprised if it wasn't made of recycled aluminium.
Yeah where’s my virgin aluminum laptop
Aluminum...the ol' hand me down metal.
same but i think it's kinda nice that this makes people more aware of that.
@@BTCRATES well, the fact they are non-magnetic makes them recyclable just by the fact magnets won't pick them up, meaning they get left behind and can be re-smelted (let's be honest, there are extremely few non-ferrous materials used enough in low-use day-to-day applications that aren't aluminium)
You mean almost 25% of all aluminium ever mined has been completed wasted and lost ? :(
It's actually $1090, because HP won't let you get the OLED screen without also getting the $230 i7 as well. Explains why they quickly changed the video title from "Budget laptops just got a huge upgrade!".
i5 OLED version is available in China at around $770
Yeah, this ain't "budget"
@@hbhamilton3 what price point is considered budget? i think $1000 is pretty budget friendly
@@nattobaby not for everybody my friend !
@@nattobaby nope lmao
It's cool that brands are realizing the market is shifting away from the dreadful "screens are an afterthought" dogma. I know there are still loads of laptops with trash screens, but honestly, the sea of 1366 × 768 displays, TN 1080p display, and scrap-tier IPS panels of old is moving behind us now. Slowly but surely.
I'm perfectly happy with my FHD TN laptop since late 2014!
@@sushimshah2896 well, maybe you never did photoshop / lightroom or any colour grading and bring the picture to your phone (wich has a good display) and find out that everything you did is 0. And let me tell you, *IT SUCKS*
speaking from experience
Well hopefully
The vast majority of laptops don't need an amazing screen. They are used for business and education, they just need to be reasonably powerful and inexpensive.
@@mossaboublal6096 well, I never said that I do photo/video-editing (or any colour grading work), nor did I mention that anyone who does should be fine with a low colour gamut TN.
I've seen better displays, my brother has a 24" IPS monitor & an Omen 15, both with ~100% sRGB matte IPS panels (and better P3 & Adobe RGB) which is better than my laptop's glossy TN, but for the work/play I've done over the past 7+ yrs with my laptop, I've hardly felt that I wanted more colours.
The majority of the work (in my case) is done with text (mostly on a white background, or inverted to black to reduce eye-strain), be it reading/browsing, writing, navigating folders, etc!
And when it comes to playing games or watching videos/movies, listening to Spotify, sure it wasn't as vibrant as some of my friend's IPS laptops but it wasn't washed out either (probably because the Envy line-up had better quality TNs compared to lower priced laptops like the Pavilion, etc). It also helps that my laptop has a glossy panel which is being requested again now after almost disappearing for years!
I do also have a very much 'colourful' phone with a sAMOLED 120Hz display!
So, this is not $850 for the OLED. Looking at HP's website for this laptop, if you want the OLED screen, you need to select the 12700H or higher which is a $230 up charge from the base price of $799. But then to actually get the OLED screen, you have to pay a $60 up charge because the base screen is an IPS panel. So, the grand total in order to get the OLED screen is $1089.99. Not to mention, the OLED screen is only 400 nits.
Thats pretty bright for a laptop screen. My asus 14" oled with the same display specs as the laptop on the video also has the same nits, and its pretty bright.
400 is enough for a laptop
The 12700h uses so much damn power, and the Oled gonna take some as well. Might last only 2 hours max watching videos only.
@@he.lena21 400 nits is enough. If you compare it to others with only 200 nits, it is pretty bright. I mean I don't use mine in bright sunlight cus who would do that.
@@PrimePixelRUclips Ppl who focus on productivity may bring their laptop and work on stuff in the park, at the beach, in a caffe...
For thinkpad users: to disable modern standby, simply change "sleep state" in bios from windows to linux. that disables S0 sleep mode and enables S3 without any changes to the windows registry.
That's what I was wondering, does not every OEM have this?
@@jaegrqualm249 uhhhhh some OEMs won't even let you change much more than time, date and password or hide options behind key combinations that can only be found in service manuals... (I'm looking at you, acer!)
@@jaegrqualm249 you can do it in regedit anyway.
@@jaegrqualm249 unfortunately nope 😢
Can anyone explain what this S0, S1, S2, S3, etc actually mean? And what is "Modern Standby" & how is it related?
I've been keeping my laptop to sleep for many years now, but it rarely ever woke itself up when the lid was closed & was kept on a table or in a backpack.
The mention of the wifi card is interesting, because it does actually make a difference! Particularly if you use bluetooth. I've used two laptops recently, one with a mediatek wifi card and the other with an intel wifi card, and the intel card handles bluetooth much better, I'm able to go throughout my whole house without disconnecting or cutting out.
Disable "Enable timer for activation" (or something along those lines) in the advanced energy settings under "save energy" (or power save?). This will stop Windows from turning on the PC/laptop to search for updates.
i had this happen on my desktop because adobe kept trying to wake the pc up every half an hour i tried everything i even formated the computer until i found this solution and suddenly i was able to sleep again lol
i think this is how I fixed mine. My laptop stopped going into sleep and I had to shutdown everytime for months till I finally fixed it. I think I also had to disable 2 more things in Power options which I dont remember to finally get it to sleep
I just enable Hibernate & use that instead. Startup is like a normal startup as if you shutdown but whatever work you we're doing before you hibernate is still there as if you sleep.
TL;DR - Hibernate is basically shutdown but saves your work
The speaker test gets me every time. Oh, that doesn't sound too bad... [XPS starts playing] ... oh wait... nevermind...
Laptops are moving away from shitty screen but they still miss the mark on the speaker performance almost every time lol. Guess they have to save money somewhere.
This could've been a great machine if they had used Ryzen 6000 series. Even for casual gaming. Also, the battery life would've been markedly better.
Basically the asus zenbook s
Exactly my thoughts. Intel integrated graphics leave a lot to be desired even for basic tasks.
Those Ryzen 6000Us are EXTREMELY rare. It's as though AMD have issues supplying them to the OEMs
@@defnotatroll Lenovo seems to be getting them just fine. The Legion 7 2022 (AMD Advantage Edition) has two SKUs, one of which is already on sale.
@@cameronbosch1213 that's a single model you've named. Compare that to the tens of different laptops running intel 12th gen, it's no comparison
I was under the impression that Intel actually didn't implement S3 on the CPU. Not that Microsoft chose to not implement it. Standby for an hour + hibernate after that should work though. That's how I configured my Linux laptop.
Iirc Intel deprecated S3 on 11th gen. S0x is the newer version that Linux should be looking into
@@shapshooter7769 Actually Linux does support modern standby already for some time. It's a hardware feature really. And with my testing Linux offers better support for modern standby than Windows. It doesn't overheat or hang, like Windows, when in standby.
I set up mine to go into hibernate when I close the lid. The main reason I did it is because it makes bitlocker disk encryption more effective, but not having to deal with any sleep weirdness is a bonus. SSDs nowadays are fast enough that the time penalty is not huge.
@@TheZeusJuice Hmm thanks for this, I should look into that for my GF's laptop. The new sleep stuff is absolutely awful.
@@TheZeusJuice hibernate puts more writes on the SSD than sleep, though.
Thank you for the review! Looking forward to buying something good in this price range AND having a great screen
Funny you mention the Realtek chip. The school where I'm IT interning just rolled out some HP Elitebooks for the teachers and the Realtek WiFi drops constantly. I've spend a few weeks testing drivers, BIOS's, settings and updates. No fix yet.
Have a similar (mine has a max brightness of 600 nits other than that identical) on my vivobook pro 14 and watching movies or gaming on that screen feels amazing!
The colours look great, the blacks looks black and just an amazing experience.
They should be doing the speaker tests for laptops on the bare table surface. Almost nobody using a laptop is going to have it sitting on a oversized, sound absorbing, mouse pad.
Personally I think it actually comes closer to the typical environment of a laptop, which is... you know... on a lap with fabric directly underneath :D
While that's true, I doubt it would change much.
9 times out of 10 if I am using laptop speakers I am just laying in bed or on a couch and can't be bothered to get headphones.
@@sakracliche Acoustically it does, since most laptops have bottom firing speakers. That being said. I would assume the engineers would have thought about the laptop being used of varying types of surfaces, so the difference would be slightly noticeable at worst. Also, this isn't a LTT Labs type of video, so testing on varying surfaces is outside the scope of the video and atleast they test both laptops on the same type of surface.
while I agree that it would be a better representation on a hard surface, as long as the other laptop(s) they compare are on the same surface, its alright
I could hear Alex say it while i read the title "This screen is AMAZING". Gotta say, Alex is probably my favorite character in the ltt cinematic universe, but I'm Dan and Anthony are close too
If I look at the minimum configuration for this laptop with the OLED screen, it's about 1090$. Other reviewers also mentioned this 850$ price point because it was selling for that much in the beginning, but now it's not. Or am I not getting something? Not sure if it is mentioned in the video, since I have not watched it yet.
Edit: Not mentioned.
@@brandonchutt312 Ah, thank you. I'm not in the market for a laptop though, just interested in this stuff.
yup sucks
@@brandonchutt312 that laptop ive looked into but it's only 1080p
Actually some versions of the vivobook Asus oled are like 700$ without dgpu. I got mine with a 5800h and a. 3050ti for 1050€, the screen is oled 2.8k (2800x1440p at 90hz) and pantone calibrated!
same. the HP site is terrible for this. I thought one could get the OLED at just $860 which could easily trash M1/M2 Macbook Air as the lowest spec CPU for the HP as good as the M1
The 2050 is great for video decoding. My primary use for this would be streaming video. Specifically making it a gaming PC with Parsec. Absolutely outstanding for that.
Never tapped a video so fast only to be disappointed by a price tag like 10 seconds in 💀
Edit: the first title was somewhere along the lines of 'budget laptops are getting better' or something
murican budget is different
Ltt budget laptop is 1000$
same
Same thought it would be 500 or less
I always thought he particularly....uses the word budget when he shouldn't.... Don't watch his budget videos.
The XPS screen or connection looks like it's failing, it dimmed out when on the comparison shot and then again a couple of times when Alex touched it.
HP has been makikng really good middle ground laptops for a while now. Not flashy but great to use/type on/etc
Yep but god damm. I would kill for thunderbolt on them. I just could swap my company laptop to private one. just unplug from usbc thunderbolt dock and then back
@@TKDMwastaken the envy line (or at least mine) has a thunderbolt port. I use eGPU with it.
I love knowing that for the same price of my old laptop from two years ago I could get one with an dedicated GPU for the same price now.
I wonder why are they not using their new HP logo. Usually the minimalist logo reworks look bad, but I absolutely love the new HP logo...
I was looking for this comment, what is the story about the new logo? I love it, why dont they use it on all their products? Is it premium only?
You mean the one with only the (slanted/tilted) vertical lines?
That's not new, it's actually more than a few years old now, but I do agree that it does look more better, neat & minimalist
14:30 Yeah my nephew had his Legion 7 being superhot in his backpack. I told hom about you guys mentioning it, so at least he new it wasnt his fault it had almost cooked an egg inside the backpack
Great review! Enjoyed it 👏 Alex is our favorite
8:11 talking about youtube codec, you can install extension for h264
I just got the Asus Vivobook pro 14 oled. Great screen, 3050, ryzen 7 5000 series, 16gb ram, 1tb ssd. Really loving it
0:34 That's some bounce on the "All aluminum construction"
The aggressive packaging removal is worth the price of admission alone.
Just ordered two! They are on sale for $799 if you get the pre-built ones they have. (Pretty much the one in this video - Silver with the 256GB m.2)
8:00 When you touch the XPS the screen seems to do some weird things. Almost like it's got a bad connection.
There's a similar configuration of this laptop that has a 2050 GPU on it, the Pavilion Plus 14t-eh000. Currently on sale for $980 USD, down from $1150. Display size is 2240x1400
I scored a Asus Vivobook w/ 15.6" OLED, 11th Gen Core i7, 16GB RAM & 1TD SSD on a 1-day sale at Sam's club for $599. The OLED is friggin amazing.
I had hoped that you guys would test the *RTX-2050* or at least the MX550 config, not the 12700H, c'mon!! That would also result in supposedly good battery life (thanks to the U or P-series CPU instead of H)
But aside from that, I've wanted more channels to cover this incredible laptop (btw waiting for HP to update the Aero with Ryzen 6000 & maybe even an OLED screen!)
I feel it's a spiritual successor of sorts to the Envy 14!
i dont know how it works on intel but amd laptop chips h is generally the medium? tdp , U is the lowest tdp for ultrabook stuff .I know they have another set of chips with another letter denotation. HX and HS , got me there. gosh that's all quite confusing in reality.
@@tobiwonkanogy2975 U is low-power (15-20W), P is mid-power (25-28W), H is mid-high power (45W-80W), HK is Intel's unlocked high-end mobile CPUs, HS is AMD's high-end mid-power CPU (35W), HX for Intel mobile CPUs is top-end (55W-100W) and are unlocked, HX for AMD is for high-end unlocked CPU.
@@QuanNguyen-yw3ft thanks , super big mess but you got it down pretty good .
@@tobiwonkanogy2975 For AMD Ryzen-
U- 15-28W+
HS-35W+
H-45W+
HX-45W+ (unlocked)
For Intel (12th gen specifically)-
U-15W+
P-28W+
H-45W+
HK-45W+ (unlocked)
HX-55W+
"+" -implies it can sustain higher wattage (it most definitely will pull higher during short bursts or at the starting of a demanding load) depending on the power delivery, cooling & system/performance modes of the particular laptop!
On another note AMD does generally give much better battery life than Intel, even the H/HX equipped laptops.
Whereas Intel (again specifically 12th gen) provides much better CPU performance that scales pretty well with the more power you feed it & they excel in media/content creation tasks beating the Macs as well!
@@sushimshah2896 You were also super helpful . The last laptop I used was an intel atom 10 inch notebook. I have one now(3500u given as salvage because broken power cable) but didn't realize how low end it was.
Same display and specs on the ASUS Zenbook 14" 2.8K OLED... for $100 less, with TB4, etc.. and it went on sale for Best Buy a few times in past months for $500-$600.
7:48 Whats with the XPS' screen flickering whenever Alex slightly touched it. o_O
14:45 it happened to me one time.. and the problem is that I didn't bring the charger with me (forgot it) + I trusted my laptop so much, but that time It died.. so I had to use my friends laptop for a presentation.. luckily I had it backed up so I transferred it from my phone.
Yeah the presentation could wait for another day.. but your laptop dying on you is not acceptable😴 I never tried a macbook maybe in the future but windows and linux right now suits my workflow..
Bought Asus Vivobook pro 14 with the same 2.8K 90hz OLED display, R7 5800H, RTX 3050 for ~$1000 a month ago, and gotta admit the screen's LIT as FK, playing games on it is an absolute breeze and the lightweight (Plastic deck 😵) form factor- carrying it around in college with goodish battery life just makes it a complete bang for the buck sleeper machine. Also about the infamous burn-in issue, Asus provided some prevention from that in the form of pixel shift and stuff hope hp is also giving it.
For some reason I was waiting for Alex to hit it with a shovel 🤣
I actually have an HP laptop that's very similar to that model, but lower specs though since I don't use it for gaming or anything.
When I got it it came with Windows 11, but I legit never even booted up that OS, with the very first thing I did was install Fedora. I shrunk the Windows partition to as low as I could since I didn't want to nuke a Windows partition since it could come in handy at some point.
This is great. I hope youll get the HP Envy 16t to review.
Lol when he was talking about stamped aluminium that thing flexed 🤣💀
I got an ASUS Zenbook 14 with the exact same screen specs for $600 from Best Buy. Loving it so far. Really surprised it was so affordable!
My pet peeves are when laptops lack ethernet ports(frustratingly becoming more common) I shouldn't need a dongle for something that has been a standard feature on laptops for years. Also I think reviewers should show the BIOS every time a computer is reviewed. I know HP in particular has some very crappy BIOS in their desktop line up at least where they lock down even basic things like memory overclocking.
ah yes i’ll by a laptop just for the display…
The display is the part that you look at each day, so it may as well not look like trash
Intel XE can do OBS easily. The problem more likely with the drivers where W11 prefers drivers that came from Feb 2022 than Intel's latest drivers. My Google Chrome does not work well with 12th gen for months till now, the browser will refresh itself occasionally and watching videos can corrupt browser requiring a browser restart or refresh, depending how bad it is.
The RTX 3050 isn't "much better" than the RTX 2050. The RTX 2050 is more or less exactly the same as the RTX 3050 but with a halved memory bus width.
So, not much better then.
There is no 2050 huh?
@@rudeskalamander mobile gpu
@@rudeskalamander There is, Nvidia launched it last year during december. No clue why though since the difference to the RTX 3050 is so small.
@@Blu3Y weird, well my bad
That is a really nice machine.. checks all my boxes. I normally wouldn’t notice.. but I wish the HP billboarding was smaller or just not there though.
I’m starting to notice how the blacks kinda suck on my MacBook Air and I watch a lot of movies.. wish I had one of these too.. maybe one day. The 2024 ones should be pretty dope. Intel WiFi and USB4 ports are a must. And if you include HDMI please make sure it’s 2.1
Anyways, I want this thing lol. It would be nice to play counterstrike and DoD again.. if anyone still even plays those 😮
There is the zenbook 14 OLED with a 1240p that frequently goes on sale at best buy
I feel like if you want to game on your laptop, you would probably go for something a bit more expensive. That said, I am curious about the coding potential of this.
At this price point, you can easily get a quality gaming laptop (at least leagues more powerful than this one anyway). I paid $669 two years ago for the Acer Nitro 5 with a 1650 (tho obviously the display and overall build quality are nowhere near as nice as this one)
I wouldn't recommend a gaming laptop at this price point anyway.
For the price difference of a mid-range to high-end desktop PC (especially a self-built one) versus an equally capable gaming laptop you can buy a cheap laptop/tablet, if you need a mobile PC.
At least before Covid that was the case and I think the PC component prices have come down enough that it's true again.
Unless you call more than one place home or frequently LAN-party, you probably don't _need_ your gaming machine to be portable.
What does "coding potential" mean? It has a screen and a keyboard so you can surely go wild. And if you really, really need to compile heavy stuff locally, on a thin-n-light, you just compromise on time :)
The HP ENVY x360 2-in-1 - Laptop 15z-ey000 is AMD Ryzen 5 5625 or 7 5825 with touchscreen OLED at 15.6".
For the following upgrades, Windows 11 pro, R7 5825, 16 GB Ram , OLED and 512 GB SSD, it's $1059. Which, in my opinion, is also a great laptop for the price, for the right person.
1:40 I don't think I've ever seen a laptop where the screen is darker than the bezels
I wanna try the 3050 variant for games, HDR games would look great on this.
Will there ever be a video about GuliKit KingKong 2? The hall effect sensor could be a game changer for precision and durability but no one is talking about it.
It would be good to know what laptops you can upgrade and laptops that you can’t. To have a list online .
A job for labs .
Wow, HP really took a page from framework's (note)book.
I have been looking for a laptop for a friend and this one might just hit the mark.
The Oled model is only available at $1,089.99 and up. so much for "$850 Oled Display laptop" its still a LCD on everything but the Premium models. Typical Gatekeeping of big companies.
Gatekeeping, lol...
You get a cheap screen when you pay for a cheap laptop. That isn't gatekeeping.
@magtheridon XD they're probably offsetting the cost of the OLED with the cost of other upgrades.
@magtheridon XD My issue is that it's not _gatekeeping._ Gatekeeping has a meaning.
The rest, I couldn't care less about. But it is _not_ gatekeeping.
That unboxing is what I call unboxing! 💯
With how fast windows laptops can boot up these days (10 seconds), I just have mine set to shutdown after 20 minutes of sleep off battery. Doesn't take long to boot back up!
So many photo editing tasks are GPU accelerated in Lightroom and Photoshop - I'd have a hard time recommending this for that type of productivity with out a dGPU.
Alex man, calm down! You can't just come at me like that right after work! The energy BURNS.
I believe you can disable modern standby in regedit. you could do a video on it.
"It's all aluminum construction, it's stamped" FLEXES .5 CM ON THE SCREEN
Laptops under 1000usd are fucking amazing now, just got the qled samsung book flex for less than 700usd, I almost went for the ideapad pro or the vivobook oled
Check the Vivobook OLED and Zenbook OLED as well
Just noticed the banana tree in the background. At least I can tell how big it is based on the bananas for scale
Micro sd is an odd choice. So many cameras still use the full size sd cards.
I would love to see the USB-C chargers have a hub bilt in
On the other hand, a 800 bucks laptop from 2-3 years ago would come with a glass trackpad. You will actually get an Envy (X360 on top of that) with that amount
Yayyyyyy laptops with alex!!!
Alex: "Speaking of things I wouldn't get mad about..."
Me: "The sponsor?"
Alex: "The I/O!"
Me: "Oh, huh."
That unboxing!!!
0:33 "It's stamped" flexes by 2 cm as he presses down on it. Yea I won't call that solid lmao.
Best webcam I've seen on a laptop
I wish HP would decide what side they want to put the charge port on...every model seems to switch...
They were all nice and accessible Ram chips. I know stranger parts did a soldered upgrade for an iPhone, do you think it's possible to order in some RAM chips from Shenzhen and doing at home upgrade for soldered laptop ram ?
No
Why did you use milimetres when describing the thickness of the laptop and then pounds when describing its weight? Why not grams?
I just got a Asus Vivobook 15 OLED with i5 11300H, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe, GTX 1650 Max-Q and 120W charger for 600usd tax included (21% VAT here in Czechia) ... its a dream laptop for this price
Every laptop needs 90hz+ imo. I have a surface laptop 3 and would upgrade to a framework if it had a 90hz display, this laptop looks REALLY sick, but I don't need an upgrade quite yet.
I recently picked up a last gen samsung galaxybook which is a thin and light with a 1080p oled, and it's amazing. if course, no gaming, but the battery life, system responsiveness and image quality are 100% worth the $799 i paid
would have been nice if they allowed getting the OLED display to lowest available CPU, making this an easy buy over the M1/M2 Macbook Airs. To get the OLED, one spends at least $1100 with 16gb ram and 256gb ssd
Can you review please the "steel series arena 9" surround sound system
I just bought the Asus vivobook pro 14 with the OLED screen too.
I bought a Pavillion 15 with a Ryzen 5 4500u solely for tuning my car, but overall its been a really good laptop. had to upgrade from the installed 8 gb of ram to a pair of 16 gb Corsair sticks, but other then that, its been completely problem free. wish i couldve waited for a newer ryzen, preferably with hyper threading, but for what it is, it does the job fantastically.
Hi i am thinking of getting either envy 13 or 14 plus pavilion. I just do my job work that is mostly on google and I watch Netflix. Would 2050 gpu be okay for it in the 14 plus and what about envy?
Nope, its NOT 850dlls, it STARTS at 799, with no OLED and an i5, and the model you have in the video is the 1029.99dlls version (there is another one with dedicated graphics).
sigh disappointed by the tile, i was expection you were talking about $500-$600 laptops
Two USB C's on one side is a pretty annoying flaw, if there's two I wish they'd make them either side as many USB C dongles will block IO around the USB C port so it's nice to have an option of what IO you're willing to block.
Something tells me you wont be able to buy it in Canada as usual for HP's consumer models.
chassis is identical to the HP chromebook from a few years ago
in the opening when Alex was talking about how the design looks like a laptop all I could think was "ah yes, this is definitely one of the laptops of our time"
no I'm not sorry
I got the R5 5600u 16gb HP Aero 13 last year for $599. Still the best deal in portable productivity laptops I have seen.
There's hibernation ya know? May not be as fast as sleep when waking up (about 30 seconds) but doesn't kill battery
why the heck has hp rolled back to the old busted logo? the 4 lines look so much better
"yours probably won't come on the floor though", well that's a relief, sounds messy
In this price range, there is only the vivobooks really. Though you can get some $450-550 OLED vivobook models I believe.
Note: I think it's the U series Intel processor rather than the H series line. Also, the type-C's are not Thunderbolt ports.
The vivobooks are very nice for the money...
Yep got a vivo w/ Core i7 16GB 1TB SSD 15.6" OLED for $599
the vivobooks are pretty great for the price.
Especially the variants with dGPUs since they let you play most aaa titles at low to medium settings in a sleek form factor.
Though kinda disappointed by the rattling trackpads the vivobook pro line suffers from.
My experience with realtek wifo cards isnt good. I had lenovo warranty replace the realtek card in my laptop with the intel one they also used for that model. Support told me that almost all wifi related issues were with the realtek equipped models. After the switch to the intel card i have had no issues at all.
Dunno if realtek is still as bad but i only had issues with their hardware.
I've never used their Wi-Fi hardware, but they make some pretty good sound cards
Almost all realtek/realmediatek wireless cards this particular generation have been complete garbage. If intel isn't available, i'd rather contact their support to see if i couldn't squeeze a 20$ rebate for them to NOT ship me a wireless card at all, so i could just grab an intel one off ebay/amazon and slap it in myself. Heck, the laptop wiki discord has a thread dedicated to how bad these cards are. Luckily, it's only their wireless cards who suffer. Their Lan cards/sound chips seem to be problem free in almost every case.
@@SStarlight9614 they are basically your only choice for motherboard audio. Mine has a realtek chip too and while the hardware works fine the drivers are a disaster.
I recently bought an HP probook x360 with an AMD ryzen 5850u cpu and while the graphics might be close the cpu still will shread that i7. Sure it's impressive, especially given the price. But I bought this series when I figured out the Dev one was behind in shipping this spring, I basically got a dev on in a x360 body and yes I bought it just to run linux because I can. Plus our company buys HP bussiness laptops in mass so I got an amazing deal for what it is. Hint: they don't give them away. But my point here is HP has been doing an amazing job lately with their laptops. Totally impressed. Like new level. For years I bought Dell basically because over all just a better product. Our recent purchase last year of the HP chromebook 14c for our non-profit organization convinced me of this.
I like it when a laptop can charge over usb-c but I prefer when it has a barrel connector/dedicated charging port too as that means I still have all the usb-c ports available for other stuff if I remember my chrger but it's not the end of the world if I forget it (a good example of this is the new Macbook Air M2 though I am a windows guy so that particular laptop wouldn't be for me)
I prefer the USB-C charger because I can also use it for all my other devices. With a barrel connector I would have a dedicated laptop charger that is otherwise useless.
Seems like the perfect laptop for Geforce Cloud Gaming! I did that playing Valheim on my Surface Pro while travelling and it worked great, even on crappy AirBNB wifi!
You must be lucky. Playing Anno on GeForce, I only get lag. But that is, I think, due to the low spec GPUs they offer
@@kkon5ti Really depends on so many things! The game could be the issue, the settings you are putting in the game, your proximity to the servers which can cause latency lag, your CPU not having enough power, etc... Impossible to say, but hopefully you get to experience it well in the future!
I just got an Asus ZenBook from Best Buy for $600 on sale from $750, it comes with an i5 1240p so it certainly isn't as fast but I am definitely not disappointed with the display I got on a $600 laptop