@@patrickoakley7890 it’s crazy cuz even for 2 weeks of “double loot drops” from this dungeon, I feel like the drop rate for this gun was still horrible. I got a ton of the area denial frame gl and the fusion rifle but only a few of these. I did manage to get a roll with eddy current and jolting feedback but I really want a roll with jolting feedback and strategist.
I have a eddy current/jolting I've been using like crazy! This is the first dungeon that has ever been kind to me, have every god roll for the weapons I wanted and with the focus thing I was able to knockout the armor really fast which I liked a lot for all the characters.
You had the EXACT same farming experience as I did with the Braytech Werewolf. I focus farmed the lone wolf, kill clip roll for 7 hours a day, every day, from the start of the event to the moment the event ended and I never got the combination to drop. Forget the barrel and mag, I never got the combo period. I settled for lone wolf, tap the trigger and one with dynamic sway and kill clip, but that’s it. I’m still trying to figure out which one I like more. I did, however, manage to get a kinetic tremors and rewind round roll during the last hour before the event ended. I stopped counting the number of focused engrams I turned in after 71. And that doesn’t even include the random drops at the end of the haunted lost sectors. I took 3 or 4 days off afterwards to maintain my sanity lol.
Got orb / jolt on my very first run through VH. Never got Jolt since, all kill clip, strategist or onslaught. Happy enough with Killing Wind / kill clip in PVP.
Even if they put tonics in for the dungeon, you know they wouldn’t work right anyway. My first roll was small bore ricochet rounds strategist and swashbuckler with a range masterwork. I luv it. And I have the smallbore ricochet rounds and fragile focus and swashbuckler and a reload masterwork.
And here I am with an attrition orb jolting feedback roll looking for an eddy current jolting feedback roll 😂 got it quite early on as well, before the double loot drops, thought it was worth keeping for jolting feedback only
Deleted over 40 pyroelectric trying to get one with jolting feedback. That's it, only jolting feedback. Finally got it last week. Friend I play with got eddy current/ jolting on his first focused drop. I did get demo/attrition velocity on my first focus though which is nice.
Yeah, I farmed for the breachloaded GL and the Auto for hours yet i got double armor drops almost 90% of the time. I never got the void GL a sigle time and ended up just doing the Focus Box for the auto rifle. Didnt get anything good, but i got one with jolting fredback and that's what i wanted. :)
Girl they can’t even fix the tonic mission properly and it’s been mentioned every week and their response is always “we are aware and it is under investigation.” I’ve come to the conclusion that they just dgaf.
I have a Jolting feedback and killing wind on one and a kill clip and strategist on another. My target lock and attrition orbs is the one I've used the most though.
Got a Fragile Focus + Kill Clip roll today, came back to double check your god roll. Unfortunately it's not a 5/5. Every other trait is wrong. Stability MW, Arrowhead or Poly, Light or Alloy mag
so let me get this straight, 50+ hours of farming, Not a single "God roll" (because God rolls are different depending on the player). Then I would say that bungie has succeeded with getting D2 more play time, Also Thanks to those who complained about Red Border guns, this is what we're stuck with now. HAPPY FARMING!
Hey I didn’t know about the triumphs for unlocking weapons for second chest. I appreciate you spreading that message cuz I’m grinding for an auto myself
Btw Maven if you’re after the Orbs/JF roll. In my humble opinion, the seasonal SMG with that roll is superior. The higher RoF procs Jolt more frequently and the dark ether origin trait + this seasons artifact mod where you get two to spawn you virtually never have to reload it. I go to that over my Orbs/JF auto tbh. Also I’m LOVING my Eddy current/voltshot anonymous autumn. Shredssss
At around 9:40 Maven says that Voltshot is better for add clear than Jolting Feedback, but I'm sort of at a loss as to why that would be... can anyone elaborate, please? Seems like the perk that doesn't require a kill (or a reload!) would just be straight up better, no? Jolting can trigger off of multiple different targets (same as Attrition Orbs, I believe) so you don't really require sustained damage on one beefy enemy for it to work or anything, and that was the only reason I could even think of. Is there something about Voltshot I've been missing, or...?
Voltshot reactivates itself naturally just by reloading after a kill, which in add clear situations you’ll be forced to do naturally already, so it doesn’t really alter your playstyle. Arc builds also get increased reload speed from Amplified which makes Voltshot easy to keep going. You can’t really go wrong with any trait that has similar activation prerequisites to Kill Clip, it’s just very reliable. A nice thing to have. Jolting Feedback doesn’t require all shots to be on a single target, but it does require sustained fire with the weapon, as the trait will reset if there’s downtime between shots. This means you lose your stacks if you swap, cast your class ability, execute a finisher, or do anything else that animation locks you, and it’s mostly useless in Crucible since Guardians consistently die to your landed shots before the trait ever kicks in, at least until you get Amplified from a different source, which lowers the amount of necessary shots that need to land. Both end up pretty equal in terms of add clearing power; the draw of Jolting Feedback is that it’s the better DPS option for killing orange bar enemies. However, Jolting Feedback is also more difficult to maintain and is pretty useless in PvP. So Voltshot ends up being the trait people prefer, due to its ease of use and effectiveness in Crucible.
It's like outbreak vs bad Juju. Outbreak is better for super generation where there are no orange and red bars. Bad Juju is better when you have a bunch of red bars around. same thing applies here. Voltshot is better when you can easily re proc it (red bars and orange bars). Jolting is better when there are barely any red bars around. Voltshot has a higher overall ceiling but jolting feedback is probably more consistent
@@MeanAndPristine Thanks for the insight! :) Do you know if Voltshot works similar to Incandescent, where it inherits the properties of the source that applied the Jolt? So like, if I get a kill with Voltshot Jolt lightning procs (and not the gun/bullets that applied it) will that then allow me to reload with another Voltshot shot ready to go? Or does it break the chain every other kill like how Destabilizing Rounds and Repulsor Brace kinda work against each other somewhat since the GUN needs to land the killing blow?
@@christopher_loren That makes sense, thanks! I think I'd probably prefer Jolting then, since perks that require the killing blow (and then a follow-up reload on top!) are less consistent for me, like you say. I do love me some consistency perks, especially in harder / group content where I can't be sure I'll be the one getting final blows all the time. Thanks again!
I have the pve roll with a reload perk, i was thrilled to get it, but it just feels like a wet noodle in GM’s when prism ability spam exists. Unfortunately its just one of those awesome on paper rolls 😢
I don't think the perk weighting issue has been properly fixed yet!! Something not right across Dungeons & seasonal weapons. Maven, if you see this? Have you tried Chroma Rush in the Kinetic Slot yet? My buddy is in love with a Killclip Roll but Enhanced Kinetic Tremors + it's lower range stat will actually work in PVP, it gets that final bit of health damn near every time.
After my third run of getting double armor drops last week I gave up on farming that Auto rifle my kill clip killing wind is the best ima get. Since i got IB mmi doubt i have a reason to go back into that dungeon 😊
Maven you’re my spirit animal, I almost was able to hop in your farm group I saw your LFG post but was too slow joining BECAUSE I too farmed 2nd enc during double drops til brain rot was real. I’ve been after that Eddy Current/JF roll since the second they released the perk pool on these after contest and still don’t have it. I do have every single other left column perk with jolt EXCEPT Eddy. Strategist roll is great on Hunter, orbs is all around good but I really want that Eddy roll.
😩 yeah I want killing wind kill clip full bore ricochet rounds for my bakris also t Ib fusion or trials fusion with rain of fire with vex will always be amazing especially ib fusion with discord
Might be a while before I get one of these as I've only completed this dungeon once so far. (Regular team has been busy) But I share your pain on the drops - been grinding IB for the past 2 weeks and still no Tinasha's with Air Trigger/ Chill clip after 2 resets and all engrams being focused on that one weapon. Same with Pinnacle drops - had 2010 in Primary and Heavy slots and maybe one armor slot. So every pinnacle had an individual 5/8 chance to drop where I needed it. I swear that over 90% of my 18+ drops have been in the primary or heavy slot. FML. So with that luck - I think I'll round up the team and do the puzzles so I can focus for what I want and try and boost my chances. (Although I do love my Summoners - non Adept and not the HC/KC god roll)
Ahhh they should listnen to you. You are probably the biggest sweetheart and so passionate about this game. So when even you complain, they should definitely listen
I say Bungie should let us fully reshape any enhanced weapon at the relic, but then tie unlocking of masterworks, weapon parts, and traits to acquiring additional drops of that same weapon. RNG drops would still matter so the "chase" would stay intact, but unlucky players could earn their way to the rolls they want if they put the time in.
Got that roll on 10/13 it was like one of the first rolls I got 😂 full bore, ricochet rounds, can’t remember the master work but has fragile focus and kill clip.
I've farmed this thing at Ranieks and got probably around 40 different rolls...........Not 1 with Jolting Feedback (I want one bad for synergy with my arc builds). Ridiculous. Best roll I've got so far...I'd say Onslaught/Eddy Current. Oh and after my first 5 clears of Vespers I already got all the armor, trasmog'd it and now I dont ever want to see it again........but there it is dropping over and over and over again instead of a coveted weapon.
Yo Maven!! Can you please look into this issue! It’s a glitch with back up mag. It lowers total ammo on a lot of special and heavy weapons. But fusions are especially affected. I posted on the D2 App forums but obviously Bungie doesn’t look there just trying to spread the word. This is the post So I ran across this glitch when going over my Deliverance. I started using it again since it’s a Stasis season and it’s one of the strongest Chill Clip options in the game. At base it holds 21 total ammo with 6 in the mag and 15 on reserves. Since I wanted more Chill Clip rounds, I figured I can boost with both the enhanced battery and backup mag to take its mag up to 8 allowing for more Chill Clip shots. Doing so, I noticed that the overall ammo count had DROPPED by THREE rounds!! Total ammo for my Deliverance went down to 18! 8 in the mag and 10 on reserves. I started testing this with other fusions and yes, I can confirm it affects A LOT of fusions; Riptide, Aurvandil, Scatter Signal, Epicurean, and many others. Then I got more curious and started testing other special AND heavy weapons and yes, Back up Mag negatively affects several weapons as well. Even more interesting is that the Adept Back up mag ALSO lowers overall reserves too. I tested it with my adept Scintillation and it went from 22 with to 23 without the mod. There are some weapons that don’t suffer from reserves lost but for those curious who wanna do their own testing, I tested a lot of weapons on the moon next to Eris since there’s a spot where you can put down rally flags and rally over and over again. And for those wondering, NO I wasn’t using any chest reserves mods when doing the testing
Dungeon tonics is such a great idea. I've been farming the piro with jolting feedback, i don't even care about the othe perk, id settle with JF and still nothing. I got the exotic, did the insufferable quest and got the catalyst and still no JF. Sucks... Bungie: Do something about it, we'll tale it from banshee
I probably did 300 first encounter CPS after the fix and saw 3 envious bait between 3 people🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ I framed this auto for 6 hours and barely even got drops during Double loot...
Im not a PvP player, if i can, anyone can! Ok challenge accepted.... Im not a PvP player either. But after seeing this video, i thought, hmmm, the only one of these i had drop, i vaulted, as it had what i considered, a crap roll... The roll.... Extended barrel, high calibre rounds, killing wind, kill clip. My K/D 0.71 (bottom 14% of players) My first 2 and only 2 rounds of crucible this morning. 14 and 16 kills respectively, a win and a loss, a kd of 1.07 and 1.75 So yeah, ngl, this thing really does melt oeople, its just shame its so big on the screen!
I got the pve g roll. Do you think i should run armor piercing round or ricochet rounds? I would normally go with ricochet but i feel like armor piercing would be the better option here. Also what weapon mod do you recommend? I have synergy atm since back up mag only gave me 6 extra rounds in the mag.
Armor-Piercing is generally the play, imo. Even though it won't happen super often, being able to penetrate enemies and hit another target behind the one you're focusing definitely has value in certain situations. Not to mention the little bump in shield damage, which is always nice even if it's only a minor bonus. The extra stability from Ricochet rounds is nice (especially for us controller users), but you can generally live without that extra 10 stability and still hit your target. And the actual bullet bouncing gimmick very seldom comes into play in any meaningful way. Can be funny for the around-the-corner shots in Crucible now and then, but that's super niche imo.
Pyro is no different than any other decent 600 rpm auto on console. It’s just better to have the highest stability, rather than the AA. Console recoil is a real thing. Not seeing her reticle move at all, in her play.
No I'd use the summoner with heal clip. Even when 8t doesn't have max range. If you fight someone with an auto rifle over a range of 30m...what are you even doing in Trials. There's other weapons for that😅
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I like how you try to offer solutions to the loot problem rather than just complaining like most people
Dungeon weapons should ALL DROP WITH DOUBLE PERKS after you've completed the dungeon once and gotten one roll of the weapon(s).
@@patrickoakley7890 100% made this comment last week. They should have given us double perks instead of double drops. It’s brutal
Thisss!!!!
And you should have a ghost toggle for getting drops as armor or weapons…especially after getting to pinnacle cap!!
I think it should be double on Master
@@patrickoakley7890 it’s crazy cuz even for 2 weeks of “double loot drops” from this dungeon, I feel like the drop rate for this gun was still horrible. I got a ton of the area denial frame gl and the fusion rifle but only a few of these. I did manage to get a roll with eddy current and jolting feedback but I really want a roll with jolting feedback and strategist.
I have a eddy current/jolting I've been using like crazy! This is the first dungeon that has ever been kind to me, have every god roll for the weapons I wanted and with the focus thing I was able to knockout the armor really fast which I liked a lot for all the characters.
You had the EXACT same farming experience as I did with the Braytech Werewolf. I focus farmed the lone wolf, kill clip roll for 7 hours a day, every day, from the start of the event to the moment the event ended and I never got the combination to drop. Forget the barrel and mag, I never got the combo period. I settled for lone wolf, tap the trigger and one with dynamic sway and kill clip, but that’s it. I’m still trying to figure out which one I like more. I did, however, manage to get a kinetic tremors and rewind round roll during the last hour before the event ended. I stopped counting the number of focused engrams I turned in after 71. And that doesn’t even include the random drops at the end of the haunted lost sectors. I took 3 or 4 days off afterwards to maintain my sanity lol.
I like the Zen/KC combo but I’m on console
I got this, 5 out of 5 not knowing this was a thing. This thing melts. Love mine.
they should really either have focusing or a currency for dungeons like spoils where you can buy stuff at the end of the dungeon.
That would suck and take away the whole point of looter shooter game .
@humanactivated1017 how? they have done this in raids for years.
@@humanactivated1017 No, it just means we wouldn't have to run the same dungeon 50 times to still not get the gun we want.
I wish I followed you way back when. I could have applied your knowledge in EVERYTHING
Been farming for weeks. Just had one drop with jolting feedback this week.
Got orb / jolt on my very first run through VH. Never got Jolt since, all kill clip, strategist or onslaught. Happy enough with Killing Wind / kill clip in PVP.
Even if they put tonics in for the dungeon, you know they wouldn’t work right anyway. My first roll was small bore ricochet rounds strategist and swashbuckler with a range masterwork. I luv it. And I have the smallbore ricochet rounds and fragile focus and swashbuckler and a reload masterwork.
And here I am with an attrition orb jolting feedback roll looking for an eddy current jolting feedback roll 😂 got it quite early on as well, before the double loot drops, thought it was worth keeping for jolting feedback only
Deleted over 40 pyroelectric trying to get one with jolting feedback. That's it, only jolting feedback. Finally got it last week. Friend I play with got eddy current/ jolting on his first focused drop. I did get demo/attrition velocity on my first focus though which is nice.
I love the way you approach your videos maven. Never ever disappointed . Thanks !
Adept mods really need a refresh. They're the hardest weapons to get and there is almost no reason to farm anymore.
Got one with fragile and onslaught, the fire rate increase really does catch people off guard if you can get it rolling.
I’ve been using a to the pain/kill clip roll with extended barrel, accurized rounds, and a stability mw and it’s alright
Bungie Not anywhere near remotely respecting their player's time. Name a more iconic duo.
Lol destiny is grindy RNG game. Not getting a perfect 5/5 god roll doesn't automatically make the game bad
Yeah, I farmed for the breachloaded GL and the Auto for hours yet i got double armor drops almost 90% of the time. I never got the void GL a sigle time and ended up just doing the Focus Box for the auto rifle.
Didnt get anything good, but i got one with jolting fredback and that's what i wanted. :)
Yo that was my first drop ever of the auto! Haven’t gotten a jolting feedback one yet though
50 hrs? ? ? You are long suffering to say the least, thats what I call dedication.
Yeah that encounter really rotted my brain. I basically became a robot just repeating the encounter on auto pilot
Yeah, even double drops were rough…useless double armor drops, even master wasn’t worth it…I got a 58 Artifice😅
Really wish I could do that dungeon more often.
Why can’t you? It’s farmable
Girl they can’t even fix the tonic mission properly and it’s been mentioned every week and their response is always “we are aware and it is under investigation.” I’ve come to the conclusion that they just dgaf.
The one I’m running is fragile focus/ onslaught and it’s great
That's crazy I just deleted a fragile focus kill clip roll last night
Watches this video went and ran vespers and got a full bore vs with fragile focus with closing time making the range 100 crazy
That’s literally the first drop I got, I not a pvp player but it was very useful in iron banana when I was grinding for the chill clip pistol thingy
I have a Jolting feedback and killing wind on one and a kill clip and strategist on another. My target lock and attrition orbs is the one I've used the most though.
I got jolting feedback and Eddy current .and also got closing time and Eddy current . I'm happy with what I got
Imagine jolting feedback on a rapidfire machine gun or tracerifle :o
I have arrowhead brake, High Caliber Rounds, and fragile focus and kill clip with an handling MW has this for awhile never used it much 😮
My best (only) pyro drop is Range MW Smallbore, HC rounds, Fragile Focus and Swashbuckler.
I've really been enjoying this in PVP even though my roll isn't great. Very accurate with a great scope. Thank you for sharing!
Your channel is great, I appreciate the content.
Onslaught with attrition orbs is really nice
Got a Fragile Focus + Kill Clip roll today, came back to double check your god roll. Unfortunately it's not a 5/5. Every other trait is wrong. Stability MW, Arrowhead or Poly, Light or Alloy mag
so let me get this straight, 50+ hours of farming, Not a single "God roll" (because God rolls are different depending on the player). Then I would say that bungie has succeeded with getting D2 more play time, Also Thanks to those who complained about Red Border guns, this is what we're stuck with now. HAPPY FARMING!
Hey I didn’t know about the triumphs for unlocking weapons for second chest. I appreciate you spreading that message cuz I’m grinding for an auto myself
Holy moly you're a beast in PvP
Btw Maven if you’re after the Orbs/JF roll. In my humble opinion, the seasonal SMG with that roll is superior. The higher RoF procs Jolt more frequently and the dark ether origin trait + this seasons artifact mod where you get two to spawn you virtually never have to reload it. I go to that over my Orbs/JF auto tbh.
Also I’m LOVING my Eddy current/voltshot anonymous autumn. Shredssss
At around 9:40 Maven says that Voltshot is better for add clear than Jolting Feedback, but I'm sort of at a loss as to why that would be... can anyone elaborate, please? Seems like the perk that doesn't require a kill (or a reload!) would just be straight up better, no?
Jolting can trigger off of multiple different targets (same as Attrition Orbs, I believe) so you don't really require sustained damage on one beefy enemy for it to work or anything, and that was the only reason I could even think of. Is there something about Voltshot I've been missing, or...?
Voltshot reactivates itself naturally just by reloading after a kill, which in add clear situations you’ll be forced to do naturally already, so it doesn’t really alter your playstyle. Arc builds also get increased reload speed from Amplified which makes Voltshot easy to keep going. You can’t really go wrong with any trait that has similar activation prerequisites to Kill Clip, it’s just very reliable. A nice thing to have.
Jolting Feedback doesn’t require all shots to be on a single target, but it does require sustained fire with the weapon, as the trait will reset if there’s downtime between shots. This means you lose your stacks if you swap, cast your class ability, execute a finisher, or do anything else that animation locks you, and it’s mostly useless in Crucible since Guardians consistently die to your landed shots before the trait ever kicks in, at least until you get Amplified from a different source, which lowers the amount of necessary shots that need to land.
Both end up pretty equal in terms of add clearing power; the draw of Jolting Feedback is that it’s the better DPS option for killing orange bar enemies. However, Jolting Feedback is also more difficult to maintain and is pretty useless in PvP.
So Voltshot ends up being the trait people prefer, due to its ease of use and effectiveness in Crucible.
It's like outbreak vs bad Juju. Outbreak is better for super generation where there are no orange and red bars. Bad Juju is better when you have a bunch of red bars around.
same thing applies here. Voltshot is better when you can easily re proc it (red bars and orange bars). Jolting is better when there are barely any red bars around. Voltshot has a higher overall ceiling but jolting feedback is probably more consistent
@@MeanAndPristine Thanks for the insight! :)
Do you know if Voltshot works similar to Incandescent, where it inherits the properties of the source that applied the Jolt? So like, if I get a kill with Voltshot Jolt lightning procs (and not the gun/bullets that applied it) will that then allow me to reload with another Voltshot shot ready to go? Or does it break the chain every other kill like how Destabilizing Rounds and Repulsor Brace kinda work against each other somewhat since the GUN needs to land the killing blow?
@@christopher_loren That makes sense, thanks! I think I'd probably prefer Jolting then, since perks that require the killing blow (and then a follow-up reload on top!) are less consistent for me, like you say. I do love me some consistency perks, especially in harder / group content where I can't be sure I'll be the one getting final blows all the time. Thanks again!
anyway, pressurized precision from iron banner really surprised me as a fusion, worth targeting some engrams
I have the pve roll with a reload perk, i was thrilled to get it, but it just feels like a wet noodle in GM’s when prism ability spam exists. Unfortunately its just one of those awesome on paper rolls 😢
I was able to get one with full bore, high cal, fragile focus, target lock, range master works. Man the range ia insane..
It’s a great roll for pc. Time to dismantle it, for console, tho.
@@R377R0ya, being on console is tough with auto rifles especially if you have any stick drift.
I don't think the perk weighting issue has been properly fixed yet!! Something not right across Dungeons & seasonal weapons.
Maven, if you see this? Have you tried Chroma Rush in the Kinetic Slot yet? My buddy is in love with a Killclip Roll but Enhanced Kinetic Tremors + it's lower range stat will actually work in PVP, it gets that final bit of health damn near every time.
After my third run of getting double armor drops last week I gave up on farming that Auto rifle my kill clip killing wind is the best ima get. Since i got IB mmi doubt i have a reason to go back into that dungeon 😊
This was my 1st drop😅 yet my RNG sucks as there over a dozen others I've been chasing last 2 seasons😢
Great vid Maven, as always 👌
Maven you’re my spirit animal, I almost was able to hop in your farm group I saw your LFG post but was too slow joining BECAUSE I too farmed 2nd enc during double drops til brain rot was real.
I’ve been after that Eddy Current/JF roll since the second they released the perk pool on these after contest and still don’t have it. I do have every single other left column perk with jolt EXCEPT Eddy. Strategist roll is great on Hunter, orbs is all around good but I really want that Eddy roll.
😩 yeah I want killing wind kill clip full bore ricochet rounds for my bakris also t
Ib fusion or trials fusion with rain of fire with vex will always be amazing especially ib fusion with discord
Don’t need tonics. Just need attunement menu like onslaught
3:30 wishing my girl shared your same sentiment
I’ve got a fragile focus closing time I quite like
Might be a while before I get one of these as I've only completed this dungeon once so far. (Regular team has been busy)
But I share your pain on the drops - been grinding IB for the past 2 weeks and still no Tinasha's with Air Trigger/ Chill clip after 2 resets and all engrams being focused on that one weapon.
Same with Pinnacle drops - had 2010 in Primary and Heavy slots and maybe one armor slot. So every pinnacle had an individual 5/8 chance to drop where I needed it. I swear that over 90% of my 18+ drops have been in the primary or heavy slot. FML.
So with that luck - I think I'll round up the team and do the puzzles so I can focus for what I want and try and boost my chances. (Although I do love my Summoners - non Adept and not the HC/KC god roll)
What was the roll on that Burden of Guilt? It was putting in work
Hey Maven, just curious as to why the 2nd encounter? You found it faster than the first I assume?
The auto rifle only drops from the second encounter. Google loot table for any dungeon/raid to see!
@ I was wrong about the 1st, but fyi it drops at the boss also
Been using a stategist with jolting on my arc hunter with the exotic chest spamming ascension.
Lol I got it first time 😆 I'm actually in pursuit for another roll tbh didn't actually realise the roll I had was classed as rare 😅
Any guns with onslaught/subsidence? That’s clearly the combo to go for if so…
Ahhh they should listnen to you. You are probably the biggest sweetheart and so passionate about this game. So when even you complain, they should definitely listen
Jup same with stay frosty... Lone wolf + Kill clip never dropped.
I say Bungie should let us fully reshape any enhanced weapon at the relic, but then tie unlocking of masterworks, weapon parts, and traits to acquiring additional drops of that same weapon. RNG drops would still matter so the "chase" would stay intact, but unlucky players could earn their way to the rolls they want if they put the time in.
Thanks Maven!!
Got that roll on 10/13 it was like one of the first rolls I got 😂 full bore, ricochet rounds, can’t remember the master work but has fragile focus and kill clip.
I got fragile focus and kill clip plus high cal on my first dungeon run. LOL
bring back crafting : i no longer have the will to grind
I've farmed this thing at Ranieks and got probably around 40 different rolls...........Not 1 with Jolting Feedback (I want one bad for synergy with my arc builds). Ridiculous. Best roll I've got so far...I'd say Onslaught/Eddy Current. Oh and after my first 5 clears of Vespers I already got all the armor, trasmog'd it and now I dont ever want to see it again........but there it is dropping over and over and over again instead of a coveted weapon.
Thank you!!!
Every weapon in this season have been a pain to get a godroll
Nice video ss always, shame that i font have time or skills to fo dungeons, i shall stick eith my Ammit lol.
Love ur vids
cant even unlock the puzzle chest because the Rouge Network is bugged
Damn i dismantled one of these yesterday.
Edit: I didn't delete it thank God lol
Yo Maven!! Can you please look into this issue!
It’s a glitch with back up mag. It lowers total ammo on a lot of special and heavy weapons. But fusions are especially affected. I posted on the D2 App forums but obviously Bungie doesn’t look there just trying to spread the word.
This is the post
So I ran across this glitch when going over my Deliverance. I started using it again since it’s a Stasis season and it’s one of the strongest Chill Clip options in the game. At base it holds 21 total ammo with 6 in the mag and 15 on reserves.
Since I wanted more Chill Clip rounds, I figured I can boost with both the enhanced battery and backup mag to take its mag up to 8 allowing for more Chill Clip shots. Doing so, I noticed that the overall ammo count had DROPPED by THREE rounds!! Total ammo for my Deliverance went down to 18! 8 in the mag and 10 on reserves. I started testing this with other fusions and yes, I can confirm it affects A LOT of fusions; Riptide, Aurvandil, Scatter Signal, Epicurean, and many others.
Then I got more curious and started testing other special AND heavy weapons and yes, Back up Mag negatively affects several weapons as well. Even more interesting is that the Adept Back up mag ALSO lowers overall reserves too. I tested it with my adept Scintillation and it went from 22 with to 23 without the mod.
There are some weapons that don’t suffer from reserves lost but for those curious who wanna do their own testing, I tested a lot of weapons on the moon next to Eris since there’s a spot where you can put down rally flags and rally over and over again.
And for those wondering, NO I wasn’t using any chest reserves mods when doing the testing
That's a pretty old bug right? Pretty sure backup mag doesn't work with magazines that extend the ammo
Dungeon tonics is such a great idea. I've been farming the piro with jolting feedback, i don't even care about the othe perk, id settle with JF and still nothing. I got the exotic, did the insufferable quest and got the catalyst and still no JF. Sucks... Bungie: Do something about it, we'll tale it from banshee
Take*
Sorry queen maven…you’ll have to rip my summoner Adept from my cold dead hands
I'd ask argue that strategist + jolt would be stronger. You'd be possibly getting your class ability in seconds if you kill groups
I have this roll and use it over my attrition orbs/ jolting feedback roll
This is the roll for pve. Love it
Agreed. Attrition orbs ain’t it. It generates orbs too slowly compared to an area denial GL. Strategist is stronger. I have both and it’s what I use.
Only the enemy you kill with your bullets will give you class ability energy. Enemies that die to the lightning from jolt will not.
@ yes but along with the origin trait it’s really strong. Run this with Inmost Light exotics it’s great
They need to be craftable
6:23 and no iron banner engrams.
I'm certain I dismantled the PvP godroll 😮💨🤦🏾♂️
Perk weighting is not fixed.
REAL
I agree
I’ve not got a single one with jolting feedback so far and less drops then anything else
I probably did 300 first encounter CPS after the fix and saw 3 envious bait between 3 people🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ I framed this auto for 6 hours and barely even got drops during Double loot...
@@kaushalsharma8053bro I had to get 80 autos to drop before I got a single one with jolting feedback. It's stupid
There is a future for you in the industry writing up proper white papers and competitive analysis for ‘xecs and groups.
Naaah, I'm pretty fine with my Chromarush with killing wind+KT
Im not a PvP player, if i can, anyone can! Ok challenge accepted....
Im not a PvP player either. But after seeing this video, i thought, hmmm, the only one of these i had drop, i vaulted, as it had what i considered, a crap roll...
The roll....
Extended barrel, high calibre rounds, killing wind, kill clip.
My K/D 0.71 (bottom 14% of players)
My first 2 and only 2 rounds of crucible this morning.
14 and 16 kills respectively, a win and a loss, a kd of 1.07 and 1.75
So yeah, ngl, this thing really does melt oeople, its just shame its so big on the screen!
They need to at least have attunement
Loot system is fucked up in EVERYTHING
210 runs for Eddy/feed 210 runs 💀💀 but some how got strat/feed attrition/feed
I basically have your pvp god roll, except mine has hammer forged instead of fullbore.
perfect!
I feel like all of the VH guns are 10% too big. They all take up so much screen space. Even if the gun is nice to use, I would like to be able to see.
Nice! An extremely lethal lady in PvP! Women can be more powerful than men...
Whatever happened to that solo content Bungie said they were gonna give us Solo Guardians? Just me or does anyone else remember that announcement? 😅
Thats after the episodes are finished are over
@ and when exactly is that? I can never keep track of when things start and end in this game lol 😂
I got the pve g roll. Do you think i should run armor piercing round or ricochet rounds? I would normally go with ricochet but i feel like armor piercing would be the better option here. Also what weapon mod do you recommend? I have synergy atm since back up mag only gave me 6 extra rounds in the mag.
Armor-Piercing is generally the play, imo. Even though it won't happen super often, being able to penetrate enemies and hit another target behind the one you're focusing definitely has value in certain situations. Not to mention the little bump in shield damage, which is always nice even if it's only a minor bonus.
The extra stability from Ricochet rounds is nice (especially for us controller users), but you can generally live without that extra 10 stability and still hit your target. And the actual bullet bouncing gimmick very seldom comes into play in any meaningful way. Can be funny for the around-the-corner shots in Crucible now and then, but that's super niche imo.
Pyro is no different than any other decent 600 rpm auto on console. It’s just better to have the highest stability, rather than the AA. Console recoil is a real thing. Not seeing her reticle move at all, in her play.
"i'm not good at pvp" - casually dropping 40 and 50 bombs.......gurl...🧐
I got it on my very first run with jolting feedback and fragile focus. Not god roll though. Love your content fam!
Wait, really? MY first ever drop of the auto on Day 1 had Smallbore/High Cal/Fragile/KC and a Range MW!
Congrats
I got both the godrolls in like 2 hours lol
congrats
No I'd use the summoner with heal clip. Even when 8t doesn't have max range. If you fight someone with an auto rifle over a range of 30m...what are you even doing in Trials. There's other weapons for that😅
0:30 Yeah, too bad there isn’t a solution to this they had already put into the game and regrettably removed.
15 clears and no velocity baton
Been destroying the pvp scene with fragile focus and jolting. Multi kills all the time, i can wipe the entire fireteam if i get the jump on them.
God damn this woman is heaven sent