first time viewer, somehow your video came in my recommended, normally i dont comment on videos anymore but i had to on this one, i love the camera setup + lighting and the flow of your descriptions, you should be getting way more views :-)!
This was an awesome comparison and quite helpful in better understanding these options. I had actually contemplated getting the MX Keyboard Mini which I am using now but am planning to try out the MX Mechanical Full size keyboard and returning this Mini. I really value a built in number pad and illuminated keyboard. The keys on the Mini have proven to be quite shallow when typing. Thanks for the info!
I have tested this one (MX mechanical mini) a bit. The KeyChron K3 was compelling as its logical competitor but the newer version of the K3 no longer has illuminated keycaps which is a no-go for me. The mini has a great battery. Or more accurately, all the competition has almost universally terrible batteries. Great overview.
I started out with the MX Mechanical and after working with it for a few weeks - I found I was having trouble with the keypad area. I'm not used to having keys above the / * and - keys and I kept hitting them. It was just too disruptive in my work. I saw the G915 and gave that a try and love it. So I moved to the G915 as my daily work keyboard. I also like how the G915 is just a little more spread out and in a format that is more familiar to me. The MX Mechanical is more compact and everything is bunched up together. I prefer the spacing they give between the alpha keys, the directional, and the number keys on the G915 and there is no such spacing on the MX Mechanical. Thanks for the video. Nicely done!
Thanks for the feedback! I also keep hitting F1 whilst hitting ESC. It is not too bad, but I wish there was some space between number row and the function keys. G915 layout was just fantastic except the keys on the left though ;)
I was inadvertently hitting the macros keys too when trying to hit Esc or Ctrl and decided to simply program them to Esc and Ctrl instead of removing the key caps. That way if you hit them you still get the function you intended.
I’ve been gaming with a G915 TKL for the past year. Can’t wait to upgrade my work system with a MX Mechanical keyboard. The one the company provided for me is absolutely atrocious. Amazing how we get used to certain things. Especially when it comes to interfacing. Great review!
I bought the magnetic thingies 4 months ago. They have changed my life. Awesome. Every device I own uses it. I even have one plugged into my Pixel 7. Works flawlessly in the car paired with the car's head unit for flawless Android Auto.
I turned the left, lower corner key upside down so it feels weird and I don't mistake it for the left ctrl key. I also used to take the windows and menu keys off of my keyboards so I could index the ctrl, alt, and function keys. Funny that I wasn't the only one that had the issue.
Thats an awesome Review.... I am using Keychron K8 and after six months I have started to miss out on the Num pad now. Was thinking about getting something else. MX Mechanicals Full looks like a great choice. I dont game and prefer to use the shortcuts from the mouse or use keyboard direct cmds or shortcuts. I like the way the RED Mechanical sounds but I also love the feedback on the BROWNS. I guess I will try out in a shop and make the final decision. Thanks for covering up the Num pads also. They seem enticing but a Full Keyboard is better unless someone travels frequently then I will probably buy a Mini Keyboard and a separate Num Pad.
I was looking for reviews where MX mechanical is compared with G915 for productivity use and found this one. I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the video and I really enjoyed watching it (even several times)! Now that you've used new keyboards for a while, which typing experience do you prefer, MX mechanical (tactile) or G915 (tactile)?
@@JosephKim how can you compare the G915 to this MX Mech and not mention the F-keys being cramped together? Especially since you did mention the macro keys being distracting on the G915, the F-key cramped together with the number keys.... It's just horrible. I used to have such keyboards and it did not work for me, had to always look at it to make sure I F3 (view), F4 (edit) or F5 (copy). There's a reason why gaming keyboards (like G512 Carbon) really go STANDARD, because you can focus on the screen and not on the keys.
@@Ursu77 you do have a fair point. I don't use F keys as often, but I hit F1 accidently far too often when I am trying to hit ESC. Also, hitting F2 for rename is really hard without looking. I was hoping that I would eventually come around adjusting, but so far, no improvements.
I see myself also doing the same mistake with the escape and the ctrl button. I wish they made a version with a num pad and no macro keys. I bought the TKL version but I wanted the num pad so I returned it. Now Im looking at the MX keys and hopefully will make a decision soon.
Why cant they make the num pad separate? Or dockable? Then you can place it wherever you want.. or remove it if you dont use it. Logitech made a keyboard like that many years ago..
So only the m 915 can be used as a plug-in keyboard, is that right? Also I have been hearing conflicting reports about the body of the keyboards , some say it's aluminum and some say it's plastic, are any of these keyboards aluminum?
AFAIK only the high end G (gaming) models have internal memory for customization while the MX models require a background app to assing different macros and shortcuts to the F keys. That's unfortunate because I work on multiple machines often, some of them run Linux and sometimes I need a keyboard for my Android phone. Having internal memory means the functionality stays the same even if Logi Options isn't available. Logitech should consider adding internal profiles to their MX line.
Imagine if they would make a normal damn keyboard with good built quality. What an amazing thing it would be. But no, they have to add crap like g buttons and make keys vobble and make it super expensive.
so if I have - just got one last month - a logitech bluetooth mouse. It has the dongle but how do I get it to use the keyboard one? I think the dongles work on several devices
You can see on other comments too. But that also results all of my following keystrokes to be wrong. You will know what I mean if you test this keyboard out :)
Hello, According to some comments, the keyboard tends to cut the brightness to preserve its battery! That is to say, if you don't use it for a few seconds, it cuts the brightness, which is very annoying for someone who does office work! Is there a way to manage this? or to cancel it via the G HUB software? is there a way to set it up? so that the light doesn't get cut?
In fact, you don't control anything on the G Hub. For MX series, you use Options+. I don't think you can disable the dimming. But as long as you are using it, it won't dim.
MX Keys Mechanical looks nice, but the lack of Print Screen button (have to press Fn + F7) is a crime. g915's layout is the best, with media keys and all, but those macro keys on the left are annoying and the secondary legends on the keys don't light up so I can't see them... Logitech is so close, it's frustrating.
I've always used the garbage membrane keyboards since forever. I graduated with a computer science degree in 2000 and keyboards were all shit or super expensive back then so I just go used to living with membrane keyboards. I recently upgraded my PC and it came with an LED keyboard which I never had before so I tired it out (it was still a membrane though). The Keypad included with the system was also an ISO configuration and I always used ANSI so I immediately had an issue with the layout and this particular keyboard was worse than any I've ever used before (for various other reasons) so I decided, for the first time ever, to get a keyboard that didn't come with my system. I didn't realize how useful LEDs are as I always thought they were a gimmick but having "f" and "g" as well as other keys commonly used highlighted seems simple but is a game changer and even the shit LED's on the cheap keyboard were very helpful in ways I didn't realize. To conclude my blog: I just got a Corsair K70 MAX and I'll probably never buy another keyboard. I've never had an issue gaming on a full sized keyboard... the people I see game with 60% look like console gamers that refuse to accept that the control "stick" doesn't have to be right next to the movement keys.
The description of the NetDot magnetic charging cable on Amazon warns that the device must be rated for 1A or above. The G915 TKL is rated for 5V 500mA. Have you experienced any problems when charging/using the keyboard using this cable?
I was going to get the MX Mechanical but I'm worried it might disturb the people working around me. Would you recommend MX Keys over the Mechanical for people who work with other people?
I've same problem with G-key next to ctrl, so I set that G-key as ctrl as well. 😅 Also from previous Logitech keyboard ctrl key broke, so even the I used that G-key as ctrl.
I'm very interested in the MX Keys mechanical, but they don't make them with my preferred layout (azerty-be). But they do make the G915 with this layout. The question I have, are the keycaps on both similar/the same or am I out of luck?
I don't think they are swappable with others. I suppose other people may start making third party ones in the future though. Not sure how that solves your different layout need?
Between the G915 TKL anf MX Mechanical Full Layout (both with brown switches), what would you choose for productivity and casual gaming? I spent most of the day coding, then at night I play some shooters games, so I'm stuck trying to make a decision hahaha
Im in the market between the MX mechanical mini and the G915 TKL. I like how the TKL is less crammed, and the option of having the backlight on at all times. But i've also heard the G915 keys are wobbly compared to the MX. I cant imagine it being that wobbly that it makes the G915 feel cheap, correct? Currently that is the only thing stopping me from purchasing the G915 TKL. I also think the the G915 TKL looks like it would feel premium with the aluminum compared to the MX mini.
Why the hell would they go for non standard stabilizers. Like it was not necessary at all and using custom ones surely was more expensive than standard.
This is a great review. I just bought this same keyboard and I'm happy with it except for one thing so far. How do I get a screen shot so I can paste it in MS Word? Everything I've seen on line talks about a camera button, located above the / key, but this keyboard, just like yours, does not have that camera. I get a calendar instead.
I've been using a Keychron k2 for over 3 years and after spending a day typing on it, I feel my fingers exhausted. I'd like to try the MX Mechanical but I'm concerned about how tall it is. Is the mechanical version much taller than the traditional version? I don't know which one to choose.
I believe the K2 is full size keycaps. And I too find it a bit harder to type of those. What 'height' are you referring to? Height of the keys? The bottom panel thickness? Or distance from spacebar to top F keys?
@@JosephKim I mean, the height when you measure the distance from the bottom to the keycaps. I think it's kinda uncomfortable, the height is too much. I couldn't find on the internet a review showing both of them side by side
K5 is "low profile" meaning the keycaps are a lot thinner. That's why I prefer these kinds instead of full keycaps. MX and K5 are about the same for the key travel and the keycaps.
@@JosephKim After thinking for a while yesterday, I decided to buy the regular MX Keys, but I've chosen the mini version. Maybe it's what I'm looking for. Thanks for your help 😁
Not productivity, but Razer's DeathStalker V2 Pro is a good contender in this arena. Check it out! Fyi i do the same to remove functions from the macro keys haha
Very informative and relaxing video. But still one question: which switches of the MX Keys Mechanical are more comfortable to type on? the red switches or the brown ones ?
Do you know whether the device switch buttons work with the logibolt dongle or are the device switch buttons only meant for bluetooth? Say you have 3 logibolt dongles inserted in 3 different PCs for example, can you just use the buttons to switch is what I mean.
Nice job mate, I work in pitch black environment and I use mx keys the older one. The backlight doesn't stay on and want to change to another one with constant white light. Is there any solution to that? I think the g915 has constant white light? Thank you.
@@JosephKim Fair, I had that thought myself after posting, and not going to lie, what you describe happens to me fairly frequently on my G910 Keyboard. I like the look of the 915 thought and considering getting it. What worries me a bit is reports of the keys being fairly fragile (the two legs keying them in) and being slightly wobbly.
The characters on the number line illuminate! That was such an annoyance on the 915 for me when I was typing in the dark. Mine is coming in tomorrow. My 915 also had serious key slop, which I hope they alleviated on this new keyboard. I have high hopes that they've got this dialed in by now.
@@JosephKim I checked a few recent videos, it's quite faint and only appears in solo work not Let's Talk Tuesday. I have headphones on and the volume was turned up a bit. Maybe it's just on my end, when I turned the volume down a bit I didn't hear it anymore. Might make this an excuse to get new headphones >.>
@@SpikeProgram lol, thanks for checking. I know my noise level is quite high. That's why I add background music although many says that it is distracting.
@@SpikeProgram I also noticed some ticking/static noise on some parts of the video. (19:40) I think it was the keyboard that is trying to connect and messing with my mic.
#PleaseReply: Hey Joseph, accidentally landed on your video while searching keyboard mouse combo. Video was very informative , nicely compare stuff . Post watching your video I've now decided to go with MX Keys Mechanical one instead of normal Mx Keys. It is like that if I don't install that Logi+ software (customizable) then i cant use these products ? Bcz my office laptop won't allow me install any software. Pls confirm this most important bcz then its of no use if software is dependency for product connectivity. Just confused in brown or red switch (which one would be best , also share my space with my family). Please suggest. I used keyboard for at least 9 hrs on each day. Also want know that would be its a good idea to buy this with MX Master 3 mouse. Please let me know about about that cleaning part and sticky ness from previous comment and reply (i click and scroll a lot in a day). Thanks , Subscribed. Will be waiting for your reply.
Thanks for your kind words. They keyboard works fine as keyboard without logi options, but you can't customize function keys and some functions may not work. Brown is tactile, red is linear. There is a lot to research on that if you don't know what you prefer. Mechanical keyboard is a rabbit hole. I personally prefer tactile although linear can be more silent, but difficult for someone who's getting mechanical keyboard the first time. (a lot comes down to personal pref) if you are in very quiet area, you might need to stay away from mechanical. As to the mouse, MX Master 3 connects via Unifying which I mentioned that doesn't work with logi bolt. So, get the newest mouse, MX Master 3S which should work fine. The clicks are supposed to be more silent. (I will make a video about this in near future) as to sticky surface, it is due to its rubber-like surface. I sweat on my hands and it makes rubber surface sticky. May not be a big concern for you if you are more dry ;). MX Master series are loved by many enthusiasts including me. So, it may be pricy, but is something worth the investment if you spend lots of time with it.
@@JosephKim Thanks a lot Joseph for taking time for such detailed reply. Appreciated. As it's bit costlier as per Indian market I think I'd like to opt for MX Keys which you have shown in this video. Seems the good combo with MX Master 3. So looking for that. But still I will definitely miss that clicky keys sound and tild back support of mechanical keyboard in MX keys. Thanks again for instant reply(literally noone do) and such a best comparison video. Helps a lot to decide which product to buy. Would love to watch more videos like this on your channel. Please consider Indian market also if possible.
I'm in the same 10+ hours daily at the keyboard place as you. I'm currently on a g915 100% with clicky keys, using the MX Master 3+ as my mouse and am considering the MX Mechanical 100% clicky keyboard. As you've used both which do you recommend?
I have not used clicky switches for MX mechanical. And can't say for certain as I don't really like clicky keys. As to the overall functionality, I have mentioned most on my video. I am currently using MX Keys tactile.
I'm missing MX Keys test at the end of the video. So 915 is the rich one with Corsair like features e.g. volume knob, but it's aging, and has annoying G keys which will fight with the muscle memory. This keyboard is using a generic dongle. MX Keys is super quiet, but it can't press multiple keys as simple as W+A+G+Shift. Zero anti ghosting effort. It has shrinked top row, and no indentation. Forcing out of Fn keys happens by default. There are some ridiculous labels despite Apple model exists. This keyboard is using an Unify dongle. MX Mechanical is as noisy as 915 (pretty good for mechanical), has no multimedia features (for real), and has no indentation under the top row, and has these annoying labels, if not forcing out of Fn functions that are more important. Also ridiculous labels. This keyboard is using, ta da, yet another unique type of USB: Bolt. I'm tired seeing all these changes. Foremost, the keyboard layout keeps changing nonstop by this company and I can't stand it. It's been going on for a lot of years. And then, as a owner of Master 3 mouse, i can't add this Mechanical keyboard. What a joke. Will Logitech publish new dongles on monthly basis? What crazy key layout will come next?
@@JosephKim hours later, the only quiet mechanical keyboard i found is Razer Deathstalker V2 Pro (Optical Red switch), or Keychron 5 (Optical Brown switch). Since Keychron is wihout app in this case, the winner is Razer.
@@JosephKim get a low profile one, doesnt matter which one of the low profiles but it has to be gateron hot swap, then mod the switches with lube and with a lighter spring swap, and you'll get the best possible low profile experience on the market.
Thanks for the review! Tell me, please, is there keycap backlash on the Logitech MX Mechanical, like on the Logitech G915? I have a Logitech G915 TKL keyboard - it suits me completely, but what upsets me the most is how the keycaps are attached to the keyboard - they hang out and do not sit tightly. I recorded a video with the Logitech G915 TKL and other keyboards, and there you can see a significant swing of the keys when typing - this is a very unpleasant effect. ruclips.net/video/yrU7h-X716A/видео.html
I guess a lot of it has to do with personal preference. I am not 100% sure what 'keycap backlash' is, but it does feel springy and there is quite a lot of keycap wobbling on G915. However, there is almost no keycap wobbling or shaking on MX Keys Mechanical. (I just shook it, and doesn't make sound) It does require more force to press the keys though. I hope that answers your question.
Palm rests. Folks, let me tell you, if you use a keyboard a lot, or your whole life like me, eventually carpal tunnel will catch up with you. You need a palm rest. Probably one taller than the one here. In the end, if your hand lifts up to type at all, that will eventually become a problem. Cheers.
I wasn't expecting to watch this whole 27 minute video, but it was very relaxing and informative, thank you!
Oh, thank you for your kind words!
first time viewer, somehow your video came in my recommended, normally i dont comment on videos anymore but i had to on this one, i love the camera setup + lighting and the flow of your descriptions, you should be getting way more views :-)!
Thank you so much for your kind words :) you made my day!
I've been considering all three of these Logitech formats, this is the most helpful comparison, thanks for sharing!
My pleasure!
This was an awesome comparison and quite helpful in better understanding these options. I had actually contemplated getting the MX Keyboard Mini which I am using now but am planning to try out the MX Mechanical Full size keyboard and returning this Mini. I really value a built in number pad and illuminated keyboard. The keys on the Mini have proven to be quite shallow when typing. Thanks for the info!
Thank you so much on the feedback! I am currently testing Keychron K5 and is quite nice option too!
Excellent Review, it really covered to detail almost every aspect possible, the best comparison i saw yet, thank you a lot! 💪💪💪
Thank you!
First time here, you are so well spoken! Very organised and at perfect pace. Thank you.
Thank you so much for your kind words!
I have tested this one (MX mechanical mini) a bit. The KeyChron K3 was compelling as its logical competitor but the newer version of the K3 no longer has illuminated keycaps which is a no-go for me.
The mini has a great battery. Or more accurately, all the competition has almost universally terrible batteries.
Great overview.
Thank you!
I started out with the MX Mechanical and after working with it for a few weeks - I found I was having trouble with the keypad area. I'm not used to having keys above the / * and - keys and I kept hitting them. It was just too disruptive in my work. I saw the G915 and gave that a try and love it. So I moved to the G915 as my daily work keyboard. I also like how the G915 is just a little more spread out and in a format that is more familiar to me. The MX Mechanical is more compact and everything is bunched up together. I prefer the spacing they give between the alpha keys, the directional, and the number keys on the G915 and there is no such spacing on the MX Mechanical. Thanks for the video. Nicely done!
Thanks for the feedback! I also keep hitting F1 whilst hitting ESC. It is not too bad, but I wish there was some space between number row and the function keys. G915 layout was just fantastic except the keys on the left though ;)
How about the noice they made? Which one is quiet
I was inadvertently hitting the macros keys too when trying to hit Esc or Ctrl and decided to simply program them to Esc and Ctrl instead of removing the key caps. That way if you hit them you still get the function you intended.
But all consequent keystrokes will be in the wrong position. Removing the key caps worked better for me :)
Great post very insightful!
Thank you!
I’ve been gaming with a G915 TKL for the past year. Can’t wait to upgrade my work system with a MX Mechanical keyboard. The one the company provided for me is absolutely atrocious. Amazing how we get used to certain things. Especially when it comes to interfacing. Great review!
Thank you!
I bought the magnetic thingies 4 months ago. They have changed my life. Awesome. Every device I own uses it. I even have one plugged into my Pixel 7. Works flawlessly in the car paired with the car's head unit for flawless Android Auto.
Haha, thought you were watching keyboard video?!? 🤣🤣
@@JosephKim Yep. Got the G915 TKL Clicky and MX Master 3S! Best productivity combo! All using the magnetic thingies!
@@artistlofter ;) those magnetic thingys are awesome! (I sharpie them to make them black)
Thanks, I was looking for this kind of review
Perfect!
I turned the left, lower corner key upside down so it feels weird and I don't mistake it for the left ctrl key. I also used to take the windows and menu keys off of my keyboards so I could index the ctrl, alt, and function keys. Funny that I wasn't the only one that had the issue.
Haha, ya found me!
Excellent review. Many thanks!
Thanks!
You love that number pad! 😊
Do you also have that?
I use both receivers because I have the MX Anywhere 3 for my small hand.
For now, I got two plugged as well!
Thats an awesome Review.... I am using Keychron K8 and after six months I have started to miss out on the Num pad now. Was thinking about getting something else. MX Mechanicals Full looks like a great choice. I dont game and prefer to use the shortcuts from the mouse or use keyboard direct cmds or shortcuts. I like the way the RED Mechanical sounds but I also love the feedback on the BROWNS. I guess I will try out in a shop and make the final decision. Thanks for covering up the Num pads also. They seem enticing but a Full Keyboard is better unless someone travels frequently then I will probably buy a Mini Keyboard and a separate Num Pad.
I just made another video regarding a few more choices, including K5. Have a look!
I wish you hadn't overlayed music to the Typing Test and Sound portion of the video 😔
I'm so sorry! 😕
I really enjoyed your video, new sub! 💞
Thank you!
I was looking for reviews where MX mechanical is compared with G915 for productivity use and found this one. I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the video and I really enjoyed watching it (even several times)! Now that you've used new keyboards for a while, which typing experience do you prefer, MX mechanical (tactile) or G915 (tactile)?
Thank you for your kind words! I now shelved my G915, and using MX Keys Mechanical (tactile) daily.
@@JosephKim how can you compare the G915 to this MX Mech and not mention the F-keys being cramped together? Especially since you did mention the macro keys being distracting on the G915, the F-key cramped together with the number keys.... It's just horrible. I used to have such keyboards and it did not work for me, had to always look at it to make sure I F3 (view), F4 (edit) or F5 (copy). There's a reason why gaming keyboards (like G512 Carbon) really go STANDARD, because you can focus on the screen and not on the keys.
@@Ursu77 you do have a fair point. I don't use F keys as often, but I hit F1 accidently far too often when I am trying to hit ESC. Also, hitting F2 for rename is really hard without looking.
I was hoping that I would eventually come around adjusting, but so far, no improvements.
I see myself also doing the same mistake with the escape and the ctrl button. I wish they made a version with a num pad and no macro keys. I bought the TKL version but I wanted the num pad so I returned it. Now Im looking at the MX keys and hopefully will make a decision soon.
I recently made another keyboard video regarding Keychron K5. Check it out!
Great video Joseph!
Thank you!
Why cant they make the num pad separate? Or dockable? Then you can place it wherever you want.. or remove it if you dont use it.
Logitech made a keyboard like that many years ago..
Exactly my point! I wish they would do that.
So only the m 915 can be used as a plug-in keyboard, is that right? Also I have been hearing conflicting reports about the body of the keyboards , some say it's aluminum and some say it's plastic, are any of these keyboards aluminum?
I'm unable to confirm as sometimes the coatings are quite deceiving. I can't tell by just looking at it or touching it.
i picked clicky blues and I love them.
Nice!
AFAIK only the high end G (gaming) models have internal memory for customization while the MX models require a background app to assing different macros and shortcuts to the F keys. That's unfortunate because I work on multiple machines often, some of them run Linux and sometimes I need a keyboard for my Android phone. Having internal memory means the functionality stays the same even if Logi Options isn't available.
Logitech should consider adding internal profiles to their MX line.
That's something I did not know! Thanks for that. Very valid thought too.
I have the same issue with the G keys on the G915. What fixed it for me was to assign Ctrl to G5, Esc to G1.. et cetera for Shift, Tab, Caps...
Lol I am not the only one!
Imagine if they would make a normal damn keyboard with good built quality. What an amazing thing it would be. But no, they have to add crap like g buttons and make keys vobble and make it super expensive.
so if I have - just got one last month - a logitech bluetooth mouse. It has the dongle but how do I get it to use the keyboard one? I think the dongles work on several devices
Yeah, just go through Logitech Options+ to add more devices through the dongle.
Could you not set those 2 keys to be CTRL and ESC rather than removing the key altogether?
You can see on other comments too. But that also results all of my following keystrokes to be wrong. You will know what I mean if you test this keyboard out :)
Hello,
According to some comments, the keyboard tends to cut the brightness to preserve its battery! That is to say, if you don't use it for a few seconds, it cuts the brightness, which is very annoying for someone who does office work! Is there a way to manage this? or to cancel it via the G HUB software? is there a way to set it up? so that the light doesn't get cut?
In fact, you don't control anything on the G Hub. For MX series, you use Options+. I don't think you can disable the dimming. But as long as you are using it, it won't dim.
I'm kind of surprised you didn't just make the macro one and macro 5 keys control and escape respectively
Because that will mess up my consequent keystrokes. For example, if I was intending Ctrl+C for copy, I will be hitting Ctrl+X or Ctrl+Z instead.
MX Keys Mechanical looks nice, but the lack of Print Screen button (have to press Fn + F7) is a crime.
g915's layout is the best, with media keys and all, but those macro keys on the left are annoying and the secondary legends on the keys don't light up so I can't see them... Logitech is so close, it's frustrating.
Can't agree more!
I've always used the garbage membrane keyboards since forever. I graduated with a computer science degree in 2000 and keyboards were all shit or super expensive back then so I just go used to living with membrane keyboards. I recently upgraded my PC and it came with an LED keyboard which I never had before so I tired it out (it was still a membrane though). The Keypad included with the system was also an ISO configuration and I always used ANSI so I immediately had an issue with the layout and this particular keyboard was worse than any I've ever used before (for various other reasons) so I decided, for the first time ever, to get a keyboard that didn't come with my system. I didn't realize how useful LEDs are as I always thought they were a gimmick but having "f" and "g" as well as other keys commonly used highlighted seems simple but is a game changer and even the shit LED's on the cheap keyboard were very helpful in ways I didn't realize.
To conclude my blog: I just got a Corsair K70 MAX and I'll probably never buy another keyboard. I've never had an issue gaming on a full sized keyboard... the people I see game with 60% look like console gamers that refuse to accept that the control "stick" doesn't have to be right next to the movement keys.
Full size seems to be my sweetspot too!
The description of the NetDot magnetic charging cable on Amazon warns that the device must be rated for 1A or above. The G915 TKL is rated for 5V 500mA. Have you experienced any problems when charging/using the keyboard using this cable?
Actually I have not. I've been having it plugged in the whole time. Although this is not TKL ;)
I was going to get the MX Mechanical but I'm worried it might disturb the people working around me. Would you recommend MX Keys over the Mechanical for people who work with other people?
I'd say so. It all depends on the proximity of your working environment and how heavy typer you are, but the original MX Keys is much more silent.
Did you know that you can pair the gpx superlight to g915 's receiver via Device Pairing Tool in Ghub?
Are you asking me if this is possible? Or telling me that I can?
@@JosephKim just giving out information that I discovered recently
@@BlizzardWind99 ah I see! I didn't know that.
I’ve had the g915 for almost 2 years and I hate how the key caps wobble. Did they fix that on the mx? Apologies if I missed it in the video
MX is completely different switch and cap design. And yes, it is much more secure.
Point out the fact that the thing doesnt have the option to keep the backlight on all the time. I'd no idea how much this would annoy me.
Haha, I find it fine :)
I've same problem with G-key next to ctrl, so I set that G-key as ctrl as well. 😅 Also from previous Logitech keyboard ctrl key broke, so even the I used that G-key as ctrl.
Lol. The troubles.
I'm very interested in the MX Keys mechanical, but they don't make them with my preferred layout (azerty-be). But they do make the G915 with this layout. The question I have, are the keycaps on both similar/the same or am I out of luck?
I don't think they are swappable with others. I suppose other people may start making third party ones in the future though. Not sure how that solves your different layout need?
Between the G915 TKL anf MX Mechanical Full Layout (both with brown switches), what would you choose for productivity and casual gaming? I spent most of the day coding, then at night I play some shooters games, so I'm stuck trying to make a decision hahaha
I really like G915 TKL if I don't need number pad.
Im in the market between the MX mechanical mini and the G915 TKL. I like how the TKL is less crammed, and the option of having the backlight on at all times. But i've also heard the G915 keys are wobbly compared to the MX. I cant imagine it being that wobbly that it makes the G915 feel cheap, correct? Currently that is the only thing stopping me from purchasing the G915 TKL. I also think the the G915 TKL looks like it would feel premium with the aluminum compared to the MX mini.
Why the hell would they go for non standard stabilizers. Like it was not necessary at all and using custom ones surely was more expensive than standard.
Do you mean the switches? It can be pricier as they are proprietary.
forget these....get Lofree Flow 100 for full keyboard experience!! best ever!
Nice!
This is a great review. I just bought this same keyboard and I'm happy with it except for one thing so far. How do I get a screen shot so I can paste it in MS Word? Everything I've seen on line talks about a camera button, located above the / key, but this keyboard, just like yours, does not have that camera. I get a calendar instead.
You can assign different buttons to do it in options+. I made my scroll lock button to do screenshot.
@@JosephKim Why not use Print Screen key instead of Scroll Lock for taking screenshots?
@@devincurrie4145 you are 100% correct. Idk why I said that. Print screen key should be used for screenshot. (in fact, windows has that function)
I find brown and red so similar in sound, some keys sound quieter - which would you say is the quietest overall?
Sound-wise, I'd say they are the same. Maybe Red is more silent? But I like Brown's feel a lot more.
@@JosephKim Ty!
Hello, I am using my Mac mini for work, but is silly that is Mac and windows switching all the time, so you recommend MX mechanic or G915 light
MX keys mechanical does have more benefit in switching OS
I've been using a Keychron k2 for over 3 years and after spending a day typing on it, I feel my fingers exhausted. I'd like to try the MX Mechanical but I'm concerned about how tall it is. Is the mechanical version much taller than the traditional version?
I don't know which one to choose.
I believe the K2 is full size keycaps. And I too find it a bit harder to type of those. What 'height' are you referring to? Height of the keys? The bottom panel thickness? Or distance from spacebar to top F keys?
@@JosephKim I mean, the height when you measure the distance from the bottom to the keycaps. I think it's kinda uncomfortable, the height is too much.
I couldn't find on the internet a review showing both of them side by side
K5 is "low profile" meaning the keycaps are a lot thinner. That's why I prefer these kinds instead of full keycaps. MX and K5 are about the same for the key travel and the keycaps.
Regular MX Keys has the least amount of travel and Keycap depth. Whilst it may not be the mechanical, it may be something you are looking for.
@@JosephKim
After thinking for a while yesterday, I decided to buy the regular MX Keys, but I've chosen the mini version. Maybe it's what I'm looking for.
Thanks for your help 😁
Instead of taking the key caps out, why not just make those two macro keys macro to left control and escape? 😅
Nope! I tried. It then makes all following keystrokes wonky.
@@JosephKim obviously just remacro every key one key to the left 😉😆
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Not productivity, but Razer's DeathStalker V2 Pro is a good contender in this arena. Check it out!
Fyi i do the same to remove functions from the macro keys haha
I saw it being released too! Seems like it is right up in my ally.
🤔 Only if you can just chop off the left side. Lol
Aren't those macros keys that you took out? couldn't you set the CTRL key to the macros?
Yes, but whilst I am fine with the first keystroke, all of my following input will be thrown off.
Very informative and relaxing video. But still one question: which switches of the MX Keys Mechanical are more comfortable to type on? the red switches or the brown ones ?
I like brown. But obviously it comes down to personal pref.
Do you know whether the device switch buttons work with the logibolt dongle or are the device switch buttons only meant for bluetooth? Say you have 3 logibolt dongles inserted in 3 different PCs for example, can you just use the buttons to switch is what I mean.
The switch buttons work for multiple logo bolt receivers.
Will the auto detect function between win and mac work for mac using parallel app?
I don't think it can 'auto' switch as the other one can't hand over.
Nice job mate, I work in pitch black environment and I use mx keys the older one. The backlight doesn't stay on and want to change to another one with constant white light. Is there any solution to that? I think the g915 has constant white light? Thank you.
I forget the exact settings, but the options+ does allow constant on for MX Keys mechanical.
Nvm, I am mistaken, no it doesn't have that option. But it does have proximity sensor :/
@@JosephKim so same as Old mx keys. So Only g series have that option ?
@@gkandilakis I think so.
@@JosephKim thank you mate!
Logitech G915 TKL - best layout of all!
Only if you can live without the Ten keys ;)
What's the site where you did your typing test?
Monkeytype?
Would it be possible to map esc / ctrl to the mentioned macro keys?
Yes, but that would make all the following keystrokes to be incorrect. Like, Ctrl+C
which layout is the keyboard which unpacked at 11:11 ?
Full size, tactile.
Couldn't you just assign the G5 key or whatever it is to be Ctrl as well?
Yes, but it will throw me off for the rest of typing as I am off.
@@JosephKim Fair, I had that thought myself after posting, and not going to lie, what you describe happens to me fairly frequently on my G910 Keyboard. I like the look of the 915 thought and considering getting it. What worries me a bit is reports of the keys being fairly fragile (the two legs keying them in) and being slightly wobbly.
The characters on the number line illuminate! That was such an annoyance on the 915 for me when I was typing in the dark. Mine is coming in tomorrow. My 915 also had serious key slop, which I hope they alleviated on this new keyboard. I have high hopes that they've got this dialed in by now.
Haha. Yeah. It's silly they didn't so far. I have been enhoying MX Keys though.
Can you configure G1 & G5 as Ctrl & Esc ?
Yes
There's a ringing noise and some static in this video. Just a heads up for next time
Oh, I had not realized that. I don't really hear it. Do you find that problem just on this video?
@@JosephKim I checked a few recent videos, it's quite faint and only appears in solo work not Let's Talk Tuesday. I have headphones on and the volume was turned up a bit. Maybe it's just on my end, when I turned the volume down a bit I didn't hear it anymore. Might make this an excuse to get new headphones >.>
@@SpikeProgram lol, thanks for checking. I know my noise level is quite high. That's why I add background music although many says that it is distracting.
@@SpikeProgram I also noticed some ticking/static noise on some parts of the video. (19:40) I think it was the keyboard that is trying to connect and messing with my mic.
#PleaseReply:
Hey Joseph, accidentally landed on your video while searching keyboard mouse combo.
Video was very informative , nicely compare stuff . Post watching your video I've now decided to go with MX Keys Mechanical one instead of normal Mx Keys.
It is like that if I don't install that Logi+ software (customizable) then i cant use these products ?
Bcz my office laptop won't allow me install any software. Pls confirm this most important bcz then its of no use if software is dependency for product connectivity.
Just confused in brown or red switch (which one would be best , also share my space with my family). Please suggest. I used keyboard for at least 9 hrs on each day.
Also want know that would be its a good idea to buy this with MX Master 3 mouse.
Please let me know about about that cleaning part and sticky ness from previous comment and reply (i click and scroll a lot in a day).
Thanks , Subscribed. Will be waiting for your reply.
Thanks for your kind words. They keyboard works fine as keyboard without logi options, but you can't customize function keys and some functions may not work.
Brown is tactile, red is linear. There is a lot to research on that if you don't know what you prefer. Mechanical keyboard is a rabbit hole. I personally prefer tactile although linear can be more silent, but difficult for someone who's getting mechanical keyboard the first time. (a lot comes down to personal pref) if you are in very quiet area, you might need to stay away from mechanical.
As to the mouse, MX Master 3 connects via Unifying which I mentioned that doesn't work with logi bolt. So, get the newest mouse, MX Master 3S which should work fine. The clicks are supposed to be more silent. (I will make a video about this in near future) as to sticky surface, it is due to its rubber-like surface. I sweat on my hands and it makes rubber surface sticky. May not be a big concern for you if you are more dry ;). MX Master series are loved by many enthusiasts including me. So, it may be pricy, but is something worth the investment if you spend lots of time with it.
@@JosephKim Thanks a lot Joseph for taking time for such detailed reply. Appreciated. As it's bit costlier as per Indian market I think I'd like to opt for MX Keys which you have shown in this video. Seems the good combo with MX Master 3.
So looking for that. But still I will definitely miss that clicky keys sound and tild back support of mechanical keyboard in MX keys.
Thanks again for instant reply(literally noone do) and such a best comparison video. Helps a lot to decide which product to buy. Would love to watch more videos like this on your channel. Please consider Indian market also if possible.
@@prathameshkinareparth thank you!
I'm in the same 10+ hours daily at the keyboard place as you. I'm currently on a g915 100% with clicky keys, using the MX Master 3+ as my mouse and am considering the MX Mechanical 100% clicky keyboard. As you've used both which do you recommend?
I have not used clicky switches for MX mechanical. And can't say for certain as I don't really like clicky keys. As to the overall functionality, I have mentioned most on my video. I am currently using MX Keys tactile.
Mx mechanical does come in full size ….
Yep it does.
I'm missing MX Keys test at the end of the video.
So 915 is the rich one with Corsair like features e.g. volume knob, but it's aging, and has annoying G keys which will fight with the muscle memory. This keyboard is using a generic dongle.
MX Keys is super quiet, but it can't press multiple keys as simple as W+A+G+Shift. Zero anti ghosting effort. It has shrinked top row, and no indentation. Forcing out of Fn keys happens by default. There are some ridiculous labels despite Apple model exists. This keyboard is using an Unify dongle.
MX Mechanical is as noisy as 915 (pretty good for mechanical), has no multimedia features (for real), and has no indentation under the top row, and has these annoying labels, if not forcing out of Fn functions that are more important. Also ridiculous labels. This keyboard is using, ta da, yet another unique type of USB: Bolt.
I'm tired seeing all these changes. Foremost, the keyboard layout keeps changing nonstop by this company and I can't stand it. It's been going on for a lot of years.
And then, as a owner of Master 3 mouse, i can't add this Mechanical keyboard. What a joke.
Will Logitech publish new dongles on monthly basis? What crazy key layout will come next?
True!
@@JosephKim hours later, the only quiet mechanical keyboard i found is Razer Deathstalker V2 Pro (Optical Red switch), or Keychron 5 (Optical Brown switch). Since Keychron is wihout app in this case, the winner is Razer.
Not gonna lie though, the stock sound is atrocious compared to my Keychron K5.
I always wanted to try Keychron. :)
@@JosephKim get a low profile one, doesnt matter which one of the low profiles but it has to be gateron hot swap, then mod the switches with lube and with a lighter spring swap, and you'll get the best possible low profile experience on the market.
RIP my keybord costs $650 on Amzon
Whaaa
Thanks for the review! Tell me, please, is there keycap backlash on the Logitech MX Mechanical, like on the Logitech G915?
I have a Logitech G915 TKL keyboard - it suits me completely, but what upsets me the most is how the keycaps are attached to the keyboard - they hang out and do not sit tightly.
I recorded a video with the Logitech G915 TKL and other keyboards, and there you can see a significant swing of the keys when typing - this is a very unpleasant effect.
ruclips.net/video/yrU7h-X716A/видео.html
I guess a lot of it has to do with personal preference. I am not 100% sure what 'keycap backlash' is, but it does feel springy and there is quite a lot of keycap wobbling on G915.
However, there is almost no keycap wobbling or shaking on MX Keys Mechanical. (I just shook it, and doesn't make sound)
It does require more force to press the keys though.
I hope that answers your question.
@@JosephKim OK thanks. I think to take the keyboard for a test, I have been waiting for something new from Logitech for a long time.
@@zipan so did I!
Are you Korean?
Yep
I thought so! @@JosephKim
Palm rests. Folks, let me tell you, if you use a keyboard a lot, or your whole life like me, eventually carpal tunnel will catch up with you. You need a palm rest. Probably one taller than the one here. In the end, if your hand lifts up to type at all, that will eventually become a problem. Cheers.
The posture also matters :)
Definitely pass on the palm rest. Tried them and I find them all uncomfortable.
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