Does Phantom Power Improve Your Condenser Mics Audio?

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  • Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
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  • @sirnigelcogs
    @sirnigelcogs 8 лет назад +708

    As another tip, when using USB audio interfaces with some laptops, whether cheap interfaces or nicer ones or USB mixers, some laptops will add a whine to the recording. It has something to do with the way the transformer is handled with the laptop, and it doesn't occur with desktop computers. For those that do experience that issue, unplugging the laptop and running it on battery while recording should solve the issue.

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад +39

      +Sir Nigel Cogs Gaming EVERYONE LIKE THIS COMMENT AND KEEP IT AT THE TOP!!!! Thank you Sir Nigel. Appreciate it.

    • @Rubens_Amaral
      @Rubens_Amaral 8 лет назад +7

      +Sir Nigel Cogs Gaming But...if my battery is burned? What should I do?

    • @iFrostys
      @iFrostys 8 лет назад +21

      +Zydrex buy a new battery..

    • @HageshiiTanoshii
      @HageshiiTanoshii 7 лет назад +6

      Is there any problem if I connect a cheap condenser mic to a phantom power and then connect it directly to my laptop's audio port without using any USB audio interfaces?

    • @RadOo
      @RadOo 6 лет назад +5

      Try to ground the laptop, yes this solved issues with my audio

  • @kmemz
    @kmemz 5 лет назад +11

    Let me give a little science behind why this works and why it might not work depending on the microphone.
    By my best guess, you are using a statically polarized condenser microphone, where the backplate is able to produce a polarization pattern without electricity. By adding external electricity, you are strengthening the polarization, and the signal clarity goes up tremendously, as a result of a better, active polarization on the backplane.
    If you were using a condenser microphone that was not statically polarized, you would need phantom power or you would not get any signal from the microphone without the +48V active polarization.
    If you were using a dynamic XLR microphone, however, the phantom power would have no effect. A dynamic microphone produces its own electricity, based on the sound pressure from your voice vibrating an always-connected coil hung in a magnetic field, rather than changing capacitance on an existing circuit, as condenser microphones do.
    Providing phantom power to a dynamic microphone thankfully doesn't harm it, but it will not help any.
    Anybody who wants to try this, hopefully now you know what to look for.

    • @colelangford6369
      @colelangford6369 Год назад

      Very concise rundown on microphones and how they work. Nice. Thanks.

  • @OfficialXeredian
    @OfficialXeredian 8 лет назад +29

    I don't mean to be a jerk or someone who just leaves mean comments, but this video is not clear on what phantom power is or how it should be used. I don't feel like writing a long explanation of why, but let me give a quick rundown.
    1. Phantom Power is 48 Volts DC power used to power condenser microphones.
    2. If your mic is NOT a condenser, phantom power is not required and will usually have no effect (because it has a transformer in it to protect it from phantom power!).
    3. If it DOES effect the sound you get out of your mic and it isn't a condenser, it probably doesn't have a transformer and phantom power is damaging your microphone!
    @Podcastage: The BM-700 is a condenser, so you're good! I still felt it important to comment and make everyone here aware of what Phantom Power is and how dangerous it can be. There is definitely a lot to learn about phantom power and how it works online, and if anyone wants more information on mic types and how to properly use them, feel free to message me.

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад +5

      +OfficialXeredian Your comment is not negative or mean. It is very constructive and helpful, and I really appreciate it! You are also absolutely right. I have a video scheduled to discuss what Phantom Power is and how it works with microphones. This video was just a response to a quesiton I got over and over again "But can I use it with my nw-700 or bm-700 or BM-800 to make it sound better?"

    • @anthonysanville2841
      @anthonysanville2841 5 лет назад

      OfficialXeredian I just want a microphone that plugs into iPhone to record on GarageBand. Why can’t it be that simple?

    • @RichieHmusic
      @RichieHmusic 5 лет назад

      My sentiments....sort of. Yes the title is misleading. With his cheap usb interface he was powering his mic with 5volts phantom ( all condernser mics need phantom power....some can work with a 1.5 volt AA batterie eg Phillips SBC ME570....AKG C1000S with a 9volt batterie). Phantom Power is USUALLY 48volts as provided on preamps and audio interfaces. The tip being given at the end of the video and in the comments is a good one.

    • @maurilio1294
      @maurilio1294 5 лет назад +1

      I have a question, so i bought nw-700, but when i record the audio sounds very low. Like i would need to speak louder or get really close so that it wont be so quiet. I use some power thing that it came with and i dont know if thats the problem

    • @RichieHmusic
      @RichieHmusic 5 лет назад

      just looked at the nw-700.......cheap enough (that may be the problem). Check the voltage on your mic plug with the phantom power "power thing" tuurned on. You should have 48volts from pin 1 and either (don't know which) of the other two pins. Your signal should be loud enough with that mic. Maybe something is set wrong on your sound card or whatever interface your using.

  • @jashdelacruz2246
    @jashdelacruz2246 4 года назад +2

    What I like about your videos is that I don't have to waste too much time to get the answers I need. You go straight to the point, straight to comparison, less chitchat in the middle. No uhhh uhmm slow bedroom voice etc.👍
    Have you tried using this with V8 soundcard? Can you do a review about BM800 with and without V8 soundcard and with and without phantom too?
    Thanks!

  • @OMARZAKIALIRAQEY
    @OMARZAKIALIRAQEY 7 лет назад +24

    you are awesome

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  7 лет назад +4

      You, my friend, are awesome.

    • @SilentAttendants
      @SilentAttendants 7 лет назад +1

      Podcastage can I use this mic, with only this USB audio adapter??? I am begginer, youtuber and I think it would be pretty good...

    • @parn2160
      @parn2160 3 года назад

      Agreeed

    • @Series870
      @Series870 3 года назад

      ها عمر ❤️

  • @MultiDareDude
    @MultiDareDude 7 лет назад +8

    Oh my god, I just found this video to get help with a bm-800 before purchasing and I instantly subscribed. Thanks man, super helpful.

    • @jordanhansen8631
      @jordanhansen8631 4 года назад

      What did you end up buying? Thanks!

    • @djcook
      @djcook 3 года назад +1

      @@jordanhansen8631 get a Rode NT1

    • @jordanhansen8631
      @jordanhansen8631 3 года назад

      @@djcook Thanks, I didnt have 230$ at the time. That's why I was looking at these cheaper ones. I ended up getting the bm-800 and with a little editing in post it's crisp and nice.

  • @901cali
    @901cali 8 лет назад +4

    Thanks for your help. All of your helpful tips have definitely improved my youtube channel. I've bought so much stuff from your links. I just order the Neewer phantom power supply. Can't wait to get it and test out.

  • @OsmanKhanMusic
    @OsmanKhanMusic 4 года назад +6

    A good SoundCard External with Phantom Power works absolutely fine, all you need is mixing skills on top of that. Keep it coming bro, nice one.

  • @devthediv9439
    @devthediv9439 8 лет назад +17

    Can you do a video on audio software such as VoiceMeeter (Banana)? I wish to know what you would recommend.

  • @SeparatedForJesus
    @SeparatedForJesus 6 лет назад +5

    I wonder if future USB evolutions will provide phantom power...

  • @nathanfogle7032
    @nathanfogle7032 8 лет назад +3

    I was seriously just about to request this, thanks Bandrew!

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад +5

      +Nathan Fogle PERFECT! I can now vacate your mind and stop reading your thoughts.

  • @relaxationmusiccertified3684
    @relaxationmusiccertified3684 5 лет назад +2

    oh. this is 2015. but your video looks modern and ahead of its time

  • @TheBeardedMathMan
    @TheBeardedMathMan 7 лет назад +23

    Thank you for running this experiment! It offers me a lot of insight!
    Oh, btw, L O V E the hat!

  • @Cercular
    @Cercular 7 лет назад +2

    I imagine, if replacing the sabrent adapter with the syba adapter, there won't be much of a difference with the results. So, i might be better off with the adapter, than piling on a phantom power supply.

  • @AlyshaHana2001
    @AlyshaHana2001 8 лет назад +22

    I had that Gino USB Adapter, two infact. Broke down on me after a few weeks of usage FOR NO REASON. Those things are trash! The first one broke down in 2 days, I asked them for another one and they did. But as you know, it broke down. Would not recommend it for ANYONE.
    Anyways, nice video, informational as always. That hat looks amazing on you btw! XD

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад +2

      +Alysha Hana Yeah it definitely does not feel like a quality piece of equipment. I'm definitely sticking with my Sabrent adapters. I hope other people will thumbs up your comment so people know that this GINO adapter is no good! Thanks for the heads up to everyone!
      PS: Thank you very much! Haha The hat definitely kept me warm when I was taking pictures in the middle of nowhere at 6 am. =)

    • @AlyshaHana2001
      @AlyshaHana2001 8 лет назад +1

      Podcastage oH gosh, do u have an instagram? would love to follow u there

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад +2

      Alysha Hana I have an instagram, but I ALWAYS forget to post there. I mainly do that on facebook. My user name on twitter and instagram and everything is BandrewSays ... I think. Haha.

    • @krisrivera3514
      @krisrivera3514 8 лет назад +2

      +Alysha Hana yes that one is the adaptor that didnt work for me

  • @joelgilmor8558
    @joelgilmor8558 3 года назад +2

    Thanks to this video I realized my cheap condenser microphone was a BM 800 and I was recording into my laptop mic, not this cheap one. Yes my microphone came with that useless sound card, but ended up not using because the signal coming out of my BM 800 was too weak to be used. But now I upgraded the microphone with a behringer UM2 interface and the sound is more normal. Now I don't like my cheap mic, but I do want to record with a condense mic. I don't know which one to buy.

  • @Xighor
    @Xighor 3 года назад +3

    Honestly can barely tell besides with that Gino Interface
    With the Sabrent didn't really notice

  • @ethcoopa
    @ethcoopa 5 лет назад +1

    I have already ordered the NW 800 microphone, and I do not want to purchase a phantom power supply. Will the microphone work, albeit quietly, without any usb or phantom power supply interface. I am open to buying a SYBA usb adaptor but I really do not want to invest in a phantom power supply. Somebody please reply soon, the microphone is arriving soon.
    Cheers, Ethan.

    • @ethcoopa
      @ethcoopa 5 лет назад

      @M A Thanks for responding, I did end up buying a phantom supply though. Thankyou anyways!

  • @napowik2018
    @napowik2018 6 лет назад +15

    2:45 oof static.... I already see someone playing a game.... that static would be probably even 200% louder xD

  • @maddie1421
    @maddie1421 8 лет назад +1

    Aha, I remember when you had 200 subs and I wouldn't stop hounding you with questions about whether I should get the BM-800 or SF-920 - by the way, I've been using the BM-800 for a couple of weeks now, and I love it! ^w^ Thanks for helping with the decision, once again. Congratulations on the 860 subs! You're growing subs every day, good job. :3

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад

      +Cheesy Pizza Thanks so much for still being around! You're awesome and I appreciate the kind words!

    • @BakedPotatoYT1
      @BakedPotatoYT1 4 года назад

      What do you use for adapters?

  • @BuildexStudiosTM12
    @BuildexStudiosTM12 8 лет назад +74

    I have a question.
    .. for the bm 800, do you NEED phantom power?

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад +15

      Needs ~4.5v to run

    • @BuildexStudiosTM12
      @BuildexStudiosTM12 8 лет назад +4

      Podcastage Would it run at the microphone jack?

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад +3

      no

    • @BuildexStudiosTM12
      @BuildexStudiosTM12 8 лет назад +9

      Thank you very much! For christmas, i'll buy the flourean bm-800 with the neewer phantom power supply.

    • @pingpingthetinychainsmoker7863
      @pingpingthetinychainsmoker7863 8 лет назад +6

      the pictures in your room are dope. just random. love your videos and your help is invaluable :)

  • @MKAngeletti
    @MKAngeletti 8 лет назад

    I just picked up an Ohuhu 48V phantom supply to go with my BM800 mic. Works great!

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад

      Awesome man! Super happy to hear that you got it all set up. Are you connecting directly to your computers internal soundcard?

    • @scottsgamingtv7168
      @scottsgamingtv7168 8 лет назад

      +Podcastage I have mine connected to X-fi 7.1 sound card with phantom power

    • @MKAngeletti
      @MKAngeletti 8 лет назад

      Podcastage Sorry for the late reply, but I'm not sure if it's connected directly to the soundcard. The USB sound card that came with the mic just stopped working though :(

  • @ironmatic1
    @ironmatic1 7 лет назад +11

    The title should say "electret condenser". An actual condenser microphone REQUIRES phantom power.

    • @swix02
      @swix02 6 лет назад

      Then what about the blue ice consender...

    • @dege10000
      @dege10000 5 лет назад

      @@swix02 It probably has an internal 5 to 48 voltage converter

    • @metalface8515
      @metalface8515 4 года назад

      leaving out a word isn't hurting anyone

    • @metalface8515
      @metalface8515 4 года назад

      and considering if an actual condenser/capacitor mic requires PP, then you already know what he meant. Nice

    • @DaleC1980
      @DaleC1980 2 года назад

      Yes, judging from the comments, it is hurting a lot of people. Tons of ignorant responses in the comments due to a misunderstanding from the video

  • @Magnulus76
    @Magnulus76 4 года назад

    Turning down your preamp settings on your computer is a clue to what's really happening. The phantom power is being used to power a JFET in the microphone capsule that works as its own preamp. Essentially, electret microphones don't need a preamp as it's supplied via a 5 volt bias (which is one reason they became popular in the first place for consumer-grade audio). All the phantom power does is essentially function as a bias voltage. Probably not the most elegant way to do that, too.

  • @catherine-kaybutler3633
    @catherine-kaybutler3633 8 лет назад +3

    You made my day, whatever your real name is! You are funny, with and without your hat! The information was very helpful, since I had ordered the microphone, that had no instructions, but no phantom power, thinking I could still use it directly with my laptop. I am not buying the Sabrent or Gino adapters..found instead the Syba USB adapter. That had more good reviews. Thanks! Wish you were located in my area to come and help me set it all up! lol Question: do you recommend Audacity for simple, audio recording software?

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад

      +Catherine-Kay Butler Thank you kindly. Happy to help. And yes I would recommend Audacity. It's a very popular and free software that offers simply functionality. I have never used it, but I know a LOT of people who do use it, and there are a lot of tutorials on it as well.

  • @moltenaus
    @moltenaus 8 лет назад

    cheers for the info man, just went ahead and bought myself a bm-700, boom arm, usb sound card, xlr cable and phantom power adapter for $55 AUD! thanks again for answering all the questions i had

  • @iiBYWAYx
    @iiBYWAYx 5 лет назад +6

    I have only asus dgx sound card .. is this will give me good sound?

  • @giorgio5789
    @giorgio5789 3 года назад +1

    the sound is so clean though....how come you have zero static/buzz noise? I want to know your secret please

  • @johnnysins8661
    @johnnysins8661 8 лет назад +12

    How do i change my input gain?

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад +3

      Google "how to change microphone input volume + your operating system".

    • @adammason6945
      @adammason6945 8 лет назад

      I think you need an audio interface to increase the microphone sensitivity but I know you can use software to boost the rest somewhat.

  • @5WTech
    @5WTech 6 лет назад

    Apparently, and please do correct me if i'm wrong. USB 3.1 or USB C provides 20v of power to whatever is connected. Granted if the dongle can utilize that it would be a much greater increase than USB 2.0 or USB 3.0 at 5v.

  • @HelamanGile
    @HelamanGile 3 года назад +3

    The phantom power always creates background noise my lgv30 is able to power the bm-800 with almost no background noise but it drains battery incredibly fast that's the route I would choose if I were someone trying to go on a budget either that or I would pick up a MXL 990 or 770

    • @MisterBaccWood
      @MisterBaccWood 3 года назад

      its not the phantom its the soundcard. the one they give us is poorly made.

  • @parrot1137
    @parrot1137 4 года назад +2

    how do I tell if my computer has enough voltage to directly run a mic or not, I don't have the original manual

    • @johnkawakami8395
      @johnkawakami8395 4 года назад

      Computers put out 2 to 5 volts to power a condenser mic.
      A related issue is how much voltage the mic wants. I got into some detail in a post (didn't want to clog this thread.)
      audioadvent.blogspot.com/2020/07/does-my-computer-put-out-enough-power.html

  • @ease1appears
    @ease1appears 8 лет назад +9

    i have a BM-800 Condenser mic and i need your help! When i plug it directly into my PC i have to be really close to the mic (like 5-10cm) so it actually picks up my voice... It there a way to increase the range so i don't have to be that close to the mic? If i buy Phantom Power Supply will the range increase or what? Thanks in advance and im looking foward to your reply!

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад +2

      answered on facebook

    • @ease1appears
      @ease1appears 8 лет назад

      yep

    • @emersonpage6729
      @emersonpage6729 8 лет назад +1

      could you potentially link the video?

    • @nick666623
      @nick666623 8 лет назад

      +Podcastage i can't find it in facebook. can you please give links for the question above.

    • @emersonpage6729
      @emersonpage6729 8 лет назад

      could you potentially link the video?

  • @Finzun
    @Finzun 4 года назад +2

    I know this video was 5 years ago but I found a Phantom Power with USB cable that I can connect it to my PC or USB charger. Do you think it's worth it? Because it will only provide 5V.

  • @noxix7641
    @noxix7641 8 лет назад +3

    Thanks for the comparison. Exactly what I needed. Have a thumb! ...wait...No don't hit pos...!

    • @travalia1449
      @travalia1449 4 года назад

      me too. I was gonna buy a good mic . Now gonna buy a power supply and check with that first

  • @crakahhtalia
    @crakahhtalia 8 лет назад +1

    Hey Bandrew (sp?, did I hear that correctly?) Hey brutha, I am new to the industry and trying to create audio content that won't give my listeners a headache. I'm trying to use the NW-700 (BM-700) on a newer Mac. I bought the Sabrent USB adapter and it needs phantom power- obviously. My question is: you referenced an "audio interface that is actually designed for this" yet I did not hear any suggestion (or follow up video of said interface(s)). Do you have such a review? and what is the average cost/benefit of utilizing the proper setup? You seem to imply that it is a bit of an investment.
    Love the videos man! Great energy, very entertaining and informative. Keep it up my friend. Thanks in advance.

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад +1

      +W E Unfortunately, I have not been able to invest in a bunch of different interfaces to test out. I just researched enough to find the right one for me whichi is the Zoom H6 (portable recorder and interface) and it's capable of recording up to 6 individual XLR cables. But that's $400 new. You could go with a Scarlett Solo (amzn.to/1ZQKwwg) interface and those are $100.
      The reason I said that is I have had a few people get really mad at me when they buy a $3-$5 usb adapter and it doesn't provide audio on par with interfaces and setups that cost $500.
      Also, I have received a few comments about this over the past few weeks, so I just ordered a new Sabrent adapter to test that to see if they have changed it some how, ultimately leading to a lower voltage output.

  • @VadeUs
    @VadeUs 8 лет назад +20

    hey bandrew what camera do you use?

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад +4

      +VadeUs I have used the Canon 70D for a few videos, but for the majority of videos, I use the Logitech C920.

    • @asferdays2203
      @asferdays2203 8 лет назад +2

      +VadeUs hey VadeUs! I recently subscribed to your channel! I guess that's all lol, I'm just here looking at some audio solutions for my own channel and thought I'd say hi when I came across your comment :)

  • @-suhaibalharthy3662
    @-suhaibalharthy3662 4 года назад +2

    Thanks man that was very helpful and the real comparison was a prof

  • @901cali
    @901cali 8 лет назад +19

    Love the hat man

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад

      +Jermaine Ellis Haha. Thanks man. =)

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад

      I just recommend the Behringer UM2.

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад +1

      ***** Unfortunately, these companies altered the construction of the soundcards and those no longer work by themselves. You would also need a phantom power supply. So that means you're looking at about $25-$26, while the UM2 is ~$30.

    • @thyconstantine8940
      @thyconstantine8940 8 лет назад

      +Podcastage ... hello tks for tips ... and where is the UM2 for 30 ? - I can't seem to find it even close , tks

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад

      thyConstantine At the time of the review it was $30 on amazon. They sold out after the video launched and now it's more expensive.

  • @kinpotatoes
    @kinpotatoes 7 лет назад

    Thank you for your service you really helped me out a lot in audio you are the first youtuber I go to check for any audio/ microphone related things

  • @adamwhite7019
    @adamwhite7019 8 лет назад +5

    Love the content you've been creating.
    I need a bit of help, as I'm starting a RUclips channel I'm wondering what mic I should buy.
    I was gonna settle on the BM-800, but then I saw you needed phantom power. As you said you can just use
    the Sabrent USB audio adapter. However since I live in Australia I can only get one of eBay for something like 35 Dollars
    Phantom power is also around 30 Dollars,So i'm not sure what to get.
    Any help is greatly appreciated.

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад

      +Legit Ace I am not sure if you have the budget, but you could do the BM-800 & The Xenyx302 USB. You could also use one of the cheaper USB adapters, but you will get some noise. I'm not sure what your budget is. Definitely don't pay $30 for that USB Adapter.

    • @adamwhite7019
      @adamwhite7019 8 лет назад +1

      +Podcastage Ummm.Yeah the Xenyx USB is way over
      $100 here in Australia,Our prices are really wrong LOL

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад

      Legit Ace Dang. You could go with the mic and then one of the cheap USB adapters I test in the "What's the Best USB Soudncard" video. You will have a hiss, but I don't know what else to recommend...

    • @adamwhite7019
      @adamwhite7019 8 лет назад +2

      Podcastage Yeah that's what I didn't want the hiss in the background.Thanks for your help though.

    • @adamwhite7019
      @adamwhite7019 8 лет назад +1

      +Podcastage I'm probably just going to save up until I can afford the Xenyx302, I need to ask as well, does the the bm-800 work well recording two people as I was planningto do a tech news podcast thing with my friends??

  • @aussernllc
    @aussernllc 3 года назад

    Excellent demonstration. Would have liked to seen the BM 8000 in the video.

  • @EvilStreaks
    @EvilStreaks 7 лет назад +6

    Been looking at loads of "do I need phantom power" videos and I think this is the best one that I've seen so far. Your main mic is haaarrrsh though..

    • @DaleC1980
      @DaleC1980 2 года назад

      No, this is a terrible video. He doesn't appear to have a clue as to what phantom power is or why you need it. If you have a condenser mic, It won't work at all without phantom power.

    • @DaleC1980
      @DaleC1980 2 года назад

      And yes, his main mic is very harsh. Sounds like he is using his camera mic.

  • @ashigarastudios206
    @ashigarastudios206 4 года назад +1

    Use audacity noise profile to get rid of that background hiss

  • @ironmatic1
    @ironmatic1 7 лет назад +30

    Ugh, those $20 mics have SO MUCH self noise.

    • @fortherecord1569
      @fortherecord1569 4 года назад +9

      They sound OK at first, but as soon as you add any compression... Oh boy, HISS city!

    • @jackieburkhart3268
      @jackieburkhart3268 4 года назад

      @@fortherecord1569 what do you mean? im looking to buy the bm 800, should i do it?

    • @weebemo1144
      @weebemo1144 4 года назад

      @@jackieburkhart3268 if it's what you can afford go ahead you won't get anything as cheap that is as good

  • @alanjameshorner
    @alanjameshorner 4 года назад +1

    am i missing something? all condenser mics need phantom power to work, as they use capacitors. are those cheap USB audio adapters proving power to the mics? don’t they only supply at max 5v, rather than the required 48v? also i’ve never seen phantom power being supplied over anything other than an XLR connector (at both ends). if you want to use a condenser mic you need phantom power from a preamp or audio interface. someone correct me if i’m wrong.

    • @DaleC1980
      @DaleC1980 2 года назад

      I wondered the same thing! This is such a bad video. So misleading. No explanation of what phantom power is or what it is for

  • @AGOTHWEDNESDAYT.V
    @AGOTHWEDNESDAYT.V 8 лет назад +3

    Funny ass shit lol Great review. Funny I was cracking up the faces or being bore
    d while testing background noiselol

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад

      +Princess INDIA Haha! Thanks so much. =) You're awesome and now I owe you high fives!

  • @TGIMikee
    @TGIMikee 8 лет назад +1

    how do you have under 1,000 subs? You deserve waay more fame than this :3 keep up the good work man

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад

      +TGIMike Cheers man! I really appreciate the kind words!

    • @CardsMoto
      @CardsMoto 4 года назад +1

      Now he has more than 100k

  • @camieln905
    @camieln905 8 лет назад +4

    I like the hat, its looks a little bit hipster with that glasses;)

  • @dege10000
    @dege10000 5 лет назад

    I would recommend, if using a usb sound card, use one that is based on a c-media based chip along a phantom power supply. I plan on modify my own to add phantom power to the card itself to cut on wiring

    • @Huephoric
      @Huephoric 5 лет назад

      What USB sound card would you suggest?

    • @dege10000
      @dege10000 5 лет назад

      @@Huephoric To be fair most of them works, but the one I'm using is an Encore ENMAB-8CMthat is based on the cm6206 chip (it has full public datasheet)

    • @Huephoric
      @Huephoric 5 лет назад

      Deft Gear will the sound card be enough to have decent audio quality when talking in Discord?

  • @nexaini
    @nexaini 8 лет назад +6

    Do you NEED a sound card and phantom power?

    • @khalod4479
      @khalod4479 7 лет назад

      no

    • @CheesyTornado
      @CheesyTornado 6 лет назад

      i think u need the usb sound card and the phantom power if u have the phantom power. If u don't u can use the usb only i think.

    • @productivitygod7887
      @productivitygod7887 6 лет назад

      CheesyTwister can I use the mic with the phantom power and then plug it into the mic input ?(that aux looking thing)

    • @ameylala7940
      @ameylala7940 6 лет назад

      Any different between Phantom Power and mini mixer(Behringer) both of that can reduce any noise?

  • @as10046
    @as10046 4 года назад +2

    Can you use the external phantom power along with a Regular Fethead or Cloudlifter for the condenser mic? I would like to buy the Fethead with 27db instead of the 18 db that the phantom version have.

  • @JohnDoe-oj8dz
    @JohnDoe-oj8dz 7 лет назад +3

    0:06 The hat is called an Ушанка. Just so you know later. Pronounced Ooh-shan-ka.

    • @karacore_
      @karacore_ 6 лет назад

      John Zeigler Ushanka

    • @karacore_
      @karacore_ 6 лет назад

      Have one myself lol

  • @bubbbles6762
    @bubbbles6762 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks for these videos. I may become a microphone & audio supplies hoarder.

  • @kosblindfire9205
    @kosblindfire9205 7 лет назад +13

    I MUST KNOW MORE ABOUT THE HAT!!!

  • @CommanderLily
    @CommanderLily 2 года назад

    how can you talk so far from the cam and still having a good strong sound with your voice?

  • @gilbertgorospe217
    @gilbertgorospe217 6 лет назад +1

    My bm 800 sounds great . No need for Phantom power. I just plug in to laptop mic plug .With realtek sound card. Only needs level enhancements and adjustment.I use 2 active subwoofers as speakers. Also use Virtual DJ for effects.

    • @pankajdboyzz8353
      @pankajdboyzz8353 4 года назад

      Hey
      Can you please tell me that how to use bm 800 with laptop using FL studio without phantom power plz tell me
      I have h a 7.1 usb sound channel but I am unable to setup it plz reply

    • @gilbertgorospe217
      @gilbertgorospe217 4 года назад

      @@pankajdboyzz8353 i adjusted the realtek sound driver to enhance loudness . Or you can use virtual dj 8 . If you have active sound woofer you will have great sounds audio and music mixing .good luck. I use windows 7 in asus laptop and mac laptop too sound is very impressive

    • @pankajdboyzz8353
      @pankajdboyzz8353 4 года назад

      @@gilbertgorospe217 ok thanku so much

    • @gilbertgorospe217
      @gilbertgorospe217 3 года назад

      @@pankajdboyzz8353 check your speaker properties then look for loudness enhancements , check the box and
      click apply and OK. I use virtual DJ 8 and there are still 3 ways to make the BM 800 sounds professional. PLus reverb effect. IN VDJ 8 ,you can use The Gain, High,Medium and Low knobs

    • @pankajdboyzz8353
      @pankajdboyzz8353 3 года назад

      @@gilbertgorospe217 I am using bm800 but when I am recording it's beeping until I am not closing fl studio ,
      But I was working great with my frnd interface in pc
      But beeping in my laptop using FL studio

  • @3x5isMeme
    @3x5isMeme 8 лет назад +2

    By any chance would you be able to test out the Blue icicle preamp? I'm wondering how it compares to this Neewer and Sabrent setup. It's almost twice the cost, so it'd be interesting to see whether the icicle actually did provide considerably higher quality or if the cheaper option were superior.

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад

      +3x5Paradox Added it to the Poll.

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад

      +3x5Paradox www.geeksrising.com/podcastage

  • @Magnulus76
    @Magnulus76 4 года назад

    I really don't hear a difference with phantom power. I think all these mic's really require is 5 volts. I suspect they are back electret capsules, which means they use the standard 5V bias voltage that used to be ubiquitous on PC's and small personal electronics.

  • @raindogred
    @raindogred 6 лет назад

    I don't understand or know those usb adaptors. but you can only phantom power mics that have been designed to access/run off phantom power. Likewise mics that require phantom power will not run unless you have 2 things..1.) a phantom power supply and 2. a balanced xlr cable. These usb adapters must have circuitry that draws power from the device into which they are plugged..far as I know USB can only draw 5v.. Generally these mics need anywhere 9-48v depending on the design. they seem to be underpowering the mics..and that could lead to damage of the mics..

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  6 лет назад

      Some of these mics are Electret Condensers which only require 4.5v

  • @nklds8910
    @nklds8910 6 лет назад

    SO the best solution: Neewer NW-800, Neewer Phantom Power and the Gino sound card???

  • @chucklesdeclown8819
    @chucklesdeclown8819 8 лет назад +1

    so why do mics need power in the first place and if answered why can't computers give more power ot the mic

  • @charifzetati
    @charifzetati 5 лет назад

    bro justa tip try to cut all frequencies in sound in post production before 50 hz and increase the gain level of high end frequencies so the voice will be more clear and not muddy and you will avoid the hiss and nearby noises also the condom of microphone isnt good at pop filtering you should switch to a pop filter so your sound is more cleaner like that,

  • @reezwasarkhan
    @reezwasarkhan 4 года назад +1

    Hi,sir my mixer is having phantom power power not working problem. If i connect my xlr output from my mixer to the xlr input on the phantom power & then use the output xlr from the phantom power to be able to use my condensor mic will it work sir,thanks🙏

  • @PahnduhTV
    @PahnduhTV 8 лет назад +1

    I was literally just thinking about this, great timing.

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад +1

      +FluhffyNick PERFECT! =) Yes! Well I hope it helps! =)

    • @PahnduhTV
      @PahnduhTV 8 лет назад

      +Podcastage It did, How's that phantom power too ? any buzzing ?

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад

      FluhffyNick What do you mean by any buzzing? The box does not buzz. As I mention in the video, it added a slight bit of his when using the Sabrent USB adapter because I only dropped my gain from 7% to 4%. But with the other one, I dropped it from 72% to 35% and there was a HUGE decrease in background nosie.

  • @TomaszPlawski
    @TomaszPlawski 5 лет назад

    so what's your regular recording setup - i.e. like in the moments you were not testing the different mic setups but just doing the commentary - the sound level was much higher with almost no background noise etc. I have the BM-800 hooked up to my PC's regular mic input, but the sound level is extremely low, whilst if I boost it, the background noise is terrible. Was wondering if adding phantom power would improve anything, or should I rather think about an active mike preamp. Or is the audio interference coming from the computer internals and investing in such a simple USB audio adapter would improve things? To tell you the truth the audio quality coming from my webcam could be considered superb comparing to this regular mic input audio, however, even though it is free from noise, it lacks dynamics and also picks up keystrokes mouse movements etc.

  • @xeonikz5735
    @xeonikz5735 5 лет назад +1

    so just get the GINO and everything will be cool??

  • @tuantrongao8335
    @tuantrongao8335 6 лет назад +1

    Do I need these adapters with phantom power? Cant I just plug a mic to phantom power and then phantom power directly to pc? Will there be any differences?

  • @willmattwood
    @willmattwood 4 года назад

    USB Soundcard and USB Audio Interface both mean the same thing... what are you referring to when you say "USB Soundcard" ?

  • @Redditstoriesfromtheppl
    @Redditstoriesfromtheppl 8 лет назад

    Thanks dude you helped me find the perfect mic for me for a cheap price I used to plug a aux coard into my phone and use it as my mic you earned a sub

  • @bajablast42069
    @bajablast42069 5 лет назад +1

    I HATE the white audio adapter when I bought my bm-800 it broke within 30 minutes and made my audio buzz and it was awful I would not recommend EVER using the white audio adapter.

  • @NeenjaMoves
    @NeenjaMoves 7 лет назад

    Wao. I'm starting out with the "Slightly better microphone" and I find this very helpful. Liked and subbed

  • @silverscreen27
    @silverscreen27 7 лет назад

    So what are you using to speak into whilst doing your video, because it sounds pretty good.

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  7 лет назад

      Intro is camera microphone. Then it's the bm700

  • @henrysutton8148
    @henrysutton8148 5 лет назад +1

    Hi, do i need phantom power to use the bm800 to do voice overs on my laptop?

  • @rafflesmaos
    @rafflesmaos 8 лет назад

    On a slightly related note, I wonder if for microphones that specify a phantom power range (for example 9v-48v), is having 48v as opposed to say, 18v, is going to have any effect. There are some mixers out there that provide less than 48v, as an example.
    My gut feeling says no if the microphone in question is well designed, but maybe I can test this for myself when I have the time someday.
    Great channel by the way, reviews hit on all of the needed points concisely. Especially the keyboard noise, as I use an extremely loud and pingy keyboard that comes through considerably on my ATM73a. Maybe an arm mounted dynamic mic will do a better, albeit much less convenient job.

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад

      If the condenser microphone is worth owning, it will accept a full +48v even if it only requires +9v without causing any damage to it.

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад

      Any additional voltage over required operating voltage should not alter the sound.

  • @jacobpahomi6941
    @jacobpahomi6941 8 лет назад +1

    Hey love your videos man keep up the good work and hope you get more subscribers
    Quick question
    Can you do a video about voice over or gaming microphones under 20-25$ range thanks

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад

      +Jacob Pahomi I did the video "what's the best mic under $30" and provide a mic tht's about 25 and then one that's about $15.

  • @Pertamax7-HD
    @Pertamax7-HD 6 лет назад

    Ok sir, thanks

  • @nineisone7814
    @nineisone7814 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks man you helped me alot🙏 got you a new subscriber

  • @brendangulseth8010
    @brendangulseth8010 7 лет назад

    Made before Sabrent went bad. I really don't wanna dish out money for an audio interface yet. Hopefully the power supply is enough to get the mic sounding nice even with the new Sabrent.

  • @ricecustombeats2751
    @ricecustombeats2751 4 года назад

    I wish i read the description before ordering my 7.1 steel channel usb sound card.

  • @martinangel7396
    @martinangel7396 2 года назад

    Thanks for the tips
    Helped by alot!

  • @patrickwhittemore7906
    @patrickwhittemore7906 6 лет назад

    Confused about something... whats wrong with plugging it directly to your onboard computer soundcard?

  • @jimmyobrien8381
    @jimmyobrien8381 8 лет назад

    why on other videos on RUclips dies it sound like it has loads of noise and it just sounds terrible but on yours it sounds incredible

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад

      +Jimmy O'Brien Connect mic with Phantom Power & USB Soundcard. That's why. People probably connecting directly to mic input (which sounds like crap), or they are plugging directly into a crappy USB Soundcard that doesn't provide sufficient voltage.

  • @lunitagaming787
    @lunitagaming787 7 лет назад

    I will buy the Neewer NW 8000 Mic and the Neewer Phantom Power Supply so I guess it's a nice combo and it should do the job right?

  • @MARTINBABEH
    @MARTINBABEH 8 лет назад

    the sabrent and the phatom power is good the gino is the backround noise toooo lound

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад

      Yeah, if you add phantom power the sabrent works well.

  • @MrSheepMoose
    @MrSheepMoose 8 лет назад

    Bit confused, I think you made a mistake in the description. You've explained the Gino is your least favourite USB audio adapter but in the description you've got (DO NOT BUY) next to the Sabrent.
    Anyway, I'm looking to setup a new mic just for gaming. Your videos have been helpful so far! Just wondering, would you recommend a setup like the BM-700 + Sabrent USB adapter over something like the Blue Snowball USB microphone? I'm trying to make a setup that's cheap yet effective, and rather than pay $90+ for the Blue Snowball, figured I'd shop around for some condenser mics.
    Cheers mate! Great videos as always.

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад

      +MrSheepMoose That is not a mistake. They changed the construction of the soundcard and it no longer provides sufficient voltage to power an electret condeners mic. If you buy either of those SABRENT soundcards you would need to buy a Phantom Power supply as well. The other option is to get the SYBA USB SOUNDCARD which does still work.

    • @MrSheepMoose
      @MrSheepMoose 8 лет назад

      +Podcastage Oh okay, I wasn't away Sabrent changed up their USB's. Is this for all of their USB options or just some new ones? I can still find some Sabrent AU-EMAC's for sale and noticed you've used them before. How does the Syba USB Soundcard compare to the Sabrent? Cheers.

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад

      MrSheepMoose The Syba & Sabrent sound almost exactly the same. On the PODCASTAGE2 channel, I do reviews of both and they are VERY similar.

  • @Hellthrasher
    @Hellthrasher 6 лет назад +1

    Excellent info!
    I'm in the same situation where I purchased the Tonor BM700 mic kit and a Sabrent USB soundcard.
    I'm using the Audacity program to just test out/record some simple audio. It's so low, I have to be really close to the mic itself to get audio recorded and I have to have it cranked all the way up to 100 full volume
    Will the Neewer Phantom Power give a stronger audio sound? Just to need to make sure before I purchase it.

    • @colorscream
      @colorscream 6 лет назад

      get a proper audio interface in order to achieve best quality, Behringer has the UM2 for 40 Euros and it does the job perfectly

  • @kinghayden9207
    @kinghayden9207 Год назад

    Thanks bro, this stuff was really helpful ❤

  • @AllAboutSCAR16
    @AllAboutSCAR16 4 года назад

    I think I dont need a phantom power than I just need a soundcard I think that is the best because there's a ton of thing you can do using sound card..
    BTW this is just my opinion.....
    BTW GREAT VIDEO LOVE IT HELPS A LOT !!

  • @crazyshock916
    @crazyshock916 4 года назад +1

    I don't know what causes this guys but when I use the phantom power on my desktop there is a hissing sound.

    • @bokchoymaster6986
      @bokchoymaster6986 4 года назад

      i have the same problem. Im pretty sure its the usb adapter, i have that white one and it produces a hissing noise when i record. I think the solution is a usb audio interface. Like a uphoria or behringer or something

    • @bokchoymaster6986
      @bokchoymaster6986 4 года назад

      i havent bought one.yet though as i am on a budget

  • @vgamedude12
    @vgamedude12 6 лет назад

    I got the UMC404HD on sale for 70 bucks, waiting on some XLR cables to try 2 bm800s with it. Hopefully it sounds pretty good for the price.

  • @Darro2017
    @Darro2017 4 года назад

    I have a feeling that the best mic for home recording purposes is the electret microphone. It is cheap and has a really good performance.

    • @Magnulus76
      @Magnulus76 4 года назад

      I think that's true also. Electrets are good for home recording and only need an inexpensive USB sound adapter. Add in some mixer VST's in Equalizer APO and you could have a perfectly decent setup for recording the human voice.

  • @trstfsrg8244
    @trstfsrg8244 6 лет назад

    Why don’t you ever leave the noise raw by just plugging it into the 3.5 mm

  • @sanketjadhav4751
    @sanketjadhav4751 8 лет назад +1

    I saw you growing from 100sub keep it up dude your r awesome

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  8 лет назад

      +tech technically Thanks so much buddy!

  • @thetrigger-happykittens7921
    @thetrigger-happykittens7921 7 лет назад

    Lifesaver! deeply appreciated! I got a killer Mic and set-up just trying to set up my Kid! Huge Help[! Thanks!

  • @SteelRatVT
    @SteelRatVT 2 года назад

    How about pluging the XLR-to-3.5 cable directly to the 3.5 pink mic plug on the motherboard? have you tested that? of course, listing the motherboard model is a must in this case.

  • @KhairiSaniOfficial
    @KhairiSaniOfficial 5 лет назад

    Hi i am using the same mic and same white adapter and plug it to my mac. But the adapter light blinking red for 5 seconds and it swtich off. No sound could go through. Could you advice on this? It be a great help

  • @Entskar
    @Entskar 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the video! Helped me a lot because I had the same question "Do I really need the Phantom power" So I don't really need it, but it improves the quality of the sound. Liked!

    • @DaleC1980
      @DaleC1980 2 года назад

      Uh, no. This is a horribly misinformed video. If you have a condesner mic, you beed phantom power or it won't work. Period. If you have a dynamic mic, you don't need it at all. This is one of the worst videos I have ever seen

  • @LiveLNXgaming
    @LiveLNXgaming 7 лет назад

    What if we just skip the USB part and plug the 3.5mm into an internal sound card? While also using a phantom power.

    • @Podcastage
      @Podcastage  7 лет назад

      Would likely not sound good.

  • @TechWolfTutorials
    @TechWolfTutorials 7 лет назад +1

    I have a question, I have bm 800 microphone and I ordered phantom power supply, do I also need one of these usb adapters do get better sound?