Hi John. Thanks for another great video. There’s no question there’s something special about your friend’s Murphy Lab Les Paul. You said something about how the guitar resonates more and how you notice it when you play it acoustically. You might want to compare the bridge, saddles, adjustment wheels, tailpiece, and mounting studs between your Les Paul Standard and the Murphy Lab. I’ve heard the materials that were used in the vintage 50s Gibsons are a lot different than what’s used today and that this can have a big impact on how the guitar resonates and sounds. I’ve heard vintage Gibsons used brass for the studs and for the saddles whereas some of the newer Gibson‘s use steel. Similarly, vintage Gibsons used lightweight aluminum for the tailpiece whereas some of the newer Gibson‘s use zinc. I’ve got an old 76 Les Paul deluxe that I recently upgraded with a more vintage spec bridge and tailpiece that I purchased from Faber. I installed their Tone-Lock Master Kit. There are similar products offered by other companies. My guitar feels more responsive and resonant with the updated bridge and tailpiece materials. It sustains longer and has a warmer / rounder tone. I think your Les Paul sounds fantastic. You might want to experiment with a more vintage style bridge/tailpiece on the guitar to see if it gets you any closer to the responsiveness and tone of your friend’s more vintage spec Les Paul. I look forward to your videos. Keep up the great work! Your playing in this video is ridiculously good!
I agree the bridge and stop bar tailpiece can have an audible effect on tone, there are some videos that demonstrate it, and the small change acoustically makes an even bigger change amplified. Pots and caps can have a significant effect too.
Just bought a Wildwood Custom SHop Top 60's Les Paul and it's gorgeous. I have had several hand picked tops from them and this is better than most custom shop tops they have, plus it's 8.7 lbs.
I picked up a 60s Les Paul Standard a few months back and it plays like a mfkn dream. I was offput at first by the smallish frets. I owned a 2001 Les Paul for 17 years that had much taller frets. But it did not take me long to realize how easy these smaller frets play. The new stuff from Gibson is incredible. Fret work is TOP NOTCH. Couldnt always say that about Gibson.
I bought a used guitar center les paul trad pro v in transparent ebony for 1800 bucks and it is awesome. I felt the same way about the small frets and now I love them. It was pleked so the frets are really nice. Rings like an acoustic guitar almost. tradbuckers and locking tuners are such good upgrades on these.
I have a Gibson Les Paul Trad Pro V. Last night I was playing unplugged in my kitchen. A catchy little rift fell out of that guitar and I wanted to record it so I could remeber it in the morning. I pulled out my phone and put it on the kitchen counter and started playing. When I listened to the recording it was so loud and sounded almost like an acoustic guitar. I couldn’t believe how much of a sound the thing made when not even plugged in.
I 've owned a lot of Les Pauls (US Standards) over the years and moved to Custom Shop versions over the past couple of years. Every guitar is unique, of course but my 59 ML ultra lite aged's sound is really significantly different than my 57 & 58 (and my old Standard that I gigged with for years). I finally get the "Tele on steroids" thing that people talk about! What's harder to describe is the feel of the VOS & ML guitars (not to mention variety in neck shape, weight, etc). Yes, they're expensive but if you're going to play it for a long time, it's worth it (to me). I have friends who play in the symphony and what they pay for their instruments makes the price of a guitar look laughably cheap!
Both guitars have low output PAF style pickups which tend to be very transparent. Hearing both played acoustically, the Murphy Lab sounded far more resonant which really came through when plugged in. A guitar that’s acoustically alive and resonant can be pure magic!
I went on a Guitar hunt and for months I did as much homework as I could on which one to go with Murphy Lab VOS custom shop standard and when it came down to it, the Murphy lab ultralight just had something different about it
I have a 2007 Les Paul standard that I chose whilst doing a shootout of a wide range of Gibson LPs. Though chambered it rang out better than the modern standards and some of the 9hole classics. It’s started to check and has a real vintage vibe and I love it. I ride around at 8 most of the time on the volumes and use the tone pots alot. A friend kindly gave me a loom with mojito me 500k pots and Monty’s oil in paper caps…it is wired in the 50s way…upon installation we discovered the 2007 LP had 440k pots. I’m putting an AB video between before and after the change. I can very much feel and hear the difference in top end and bite…I love the sound of my Les Paul but this to me has enhanced it no end and it’s closer to the 50s sound. Love your vids as always!
I will put my little Les Paul Tribute up against any of the expensive ones. It's a GREAT little Les Paul and I HIGHLY recommend them if you ever get a chance to pick one up.
The Tribute line doesn't have all the bells and whistles but it has what it takes to sound good, a well worthwhile guitar to buy at only $1700 Canadian.
@@dragan4658 Yeah it's really a stripped down rock machine. The used prices for them are really fair too. I got mine from Sweetwater and it was set up PERFECTLY and only weighs 7.2oz!
I have a Tribute and absolutely love the thing. Do I wish I had a sick flame maple top from a lightly aged Murphy Lab? Absolutely. But can I “get by” with the tones coming out of the Tribute and still appreciate its more “basic” look? Also absolutely. I’m glad I was able to snag one before Gibson stopped making them. Not a fan of the new Modern Lite. It looks like an SG-ified Les Paul, but ai digress. Play what you have and enjoy. :)
@@jasonswitzer1748 I like the Tribute preferably in tobacco and I actually liked the new Modern Lite. I may get both. Lots of deals on used tributes around $1000 Canadian.
To me there’s a big difference between the Murphy Lab and custom shop having had a 58 and 59 Custom shop then 58 Murphy Lab heavy aged LP. It’s like you’re playing an old guitar and I’ve played a 58. They are amazing. As an aside 58 and below had much thinner frets on the originals. They went to the fatter frets in 59 as far as I’m aware. I had a 54 CS LP and it had the thinner frets too. I much prefer the thinner frets and a bit thicker neck on my LPs. Never really bonded with my R9. Just a personal preference I suppose. Since the 59 is the “holy grail” I thought I’d love it. I really think if you tried em side by side a lot of people may have like the thinner frets and a bit thicker neck unless you’re a shredder and I’m not.
I agree the Murphy lab guitars are too pricy for me, but I do plan to get a Gibson or Maybach which is in the $2000 + price range. They are worth it. Thanks for sharing.
Those Maybach’s are absolutely stunning. Also check out Panucci, they do an Ol Red style custom with P90’s, it’s as good as the Murphy lab stuff at half the price
@DeeSee77 the thing I don't line about Panicci and other custom builders is they have a website with specs but no pricing. I guess they aren't interested in selling guitars lol.
I'm delighted with a used Maybach Lester Honey Pie I found on Reverb, never even heard of the brand previously, was a great deal too, the seller said he had an R8 and didn't need it anymore, so I guess an R8 is even better, but this Maybach if far better than my Eastman SB59v or Epiphone 59 reissue. The finish is incredible, and the German made Amber pickups sound just like old PAFs to me, even better than Antiquity 2 or custom buckers which were my favorites previously - all those pickups are unpotted. I have potted Lollar Imperials in the Eastman, which sound great, but not quite as good.
@pharmerdavid1432 I don't know of the R9 is better than the Maybach, Ide say it's debatable and a matter of preference. I have a few lower to midrange guitars that hold their own with guitars more than 2-3 times their cost. No Maybach dealers where I am so unless I order from Europe, it will have to be a Gibson. For now my Epiphone Sg Pro rocks quite well, and I'm really pleased with it.
I owned the R7-type Maybach, great guitar. High quality guitar. Try an Eastman too, just sold a DC LP Jr-style. I also had three CS Gibsons (R8, R6 and a 1952 tribute). In the end I sold all of them. I like simpler, lighter guitars so my main ones now are a Collings 290, Maybach SG Jr-style, Gibson SG Std and a 1995 white Gibson Flying V.
@@steveymoon idk stevie, it’s almost like language changes through usage. You can say “a new video dropped” and still use “released” for things like “you’ve clearly released your grip on what’s important” you’re about ten years behind
@@steveymoon jumped on the bandwagon? For something that entered the lexicon nearly 14 years ago? Language evolves brosef, don’t gatekeep. Also “Wake up babe x has dropped” is a meme.
Acoustically, it’s a wipeout. The Murphy sounds so much better. But amplified, it’s really more a matter of personal preference and could go either way. I think that’s true likely because the Monty’s raise the game for the Standard.
Not true at all. Plenty of people play them acoustically first when shopping and if they don’t sound good, they don’t even plug them in. @@treastonschmuckley5111
I owned a 2002 LP standard, I loved how it played and how it sounded but it wouldn’t stay in tune so I sold it. I’ve played a handful of LP’s thru-out the years and they all had different neck profiles, my 2002 standard was the middle of the road not to thick, not to skinny neck. I played an R8 that had a softball bat as a neck, and a new LP Standard that has a slinky neck, almost like a afinity squire!
I can personally speak to this issue as of late. I have been playing guitar for a long time and am a pretty decent level. I have owned a 1990 LP classic since 1991, and over the last 4 years somehow manged to acquire 4 LP standards! It was a excessive but I kept chasing ones with specific tops and one's I drooled over as a kid. At any rate, recently i decided to sell a couple of the LPs and buy a CS 59 reissue. I sold two of my LPs, 2300 each. I was going to get a VOS dirty lemon but was not finding the wide flamed tops i prefer. Eventually a light aged murphy lab in dirty lemon popped up on reverb. The guitar was very pricey but I can attest that most shops with give you 15% off easily. I manged 20% off with no tax and free shipping, so a good chunk saved but still pricey. I have had the LP for about 4 days and I plan on keeping it for sure. I definitely feels like a vintage instrument. The neck is a bit slimmer than my 50s standards but not much. I have to say the neck is and the appearance are probably the main things that are really unique. I really prefer the thin lacquer feeling on the neck. Its lightly aged but lots of checking, but looks very natural. I do like how it's way less shiny than my other LP standards. All that said, I have a wildwood USA standard that is excellent and a CME spec standard that is also excellent. I do not think the CS is worth twice the price, but maybe 25% more. I think a lot of it is hype. They are fine instruments but my USA standards play just as well. I think it's only worth it if you can afford it and you really dig the vintage feel. I'm stoked on mine for sure.
I had to sell my Murphy Lab because it was just too expensive for me to keep. But I miss it, that guitar was the best guitar I have ever had the pleasure to own. When you listen to youtube videos sound test, you are kinda missing out on the part I think is almost more important, which is everything that is not the pickups. You can put these pickups in any guitar. The thing I loved about the Gibson is the neck feel, the super easy playability (I had a 59 reissue). The sound it makes when playing unplugged, and the way you feel the vibrations. I am currently waiting for a Heritage Custom Core, hoping it will give me the same joy.
Last year I traded up to a '07 R8 for about the price of the standard new ($3k USD). Sonically it isn't a revelation because its just the burstbuckers, but the smaller frets, chunkier neck, and smoother nitro does make for a different experience, which is what you are really after if you're being honest. There is a middle ground between a $7k Murphy Labs freezer burn special and a regular standard. It's worth trying one custom ship Gibson out before you keel over, but it's not going to blast into the wall Marty McFly style.
Both nice guitars. I've played a real '58, owned Les Pauls from the early 80s through the 90s models. Thing about "Custom Shop" Les Pauls is that Gibson COULD make every Les Paul like Gibson did in the 50s and 60s. with CNC machining, modern manufacturing techniques, every Les Paul that is made today could be made "historically correct" rather than have special custom models. That said, if you have the money and want to buy one, go for it.
There just isn’t enough in it once plugged in to justify the $$ difference for me. Obviously the feel might be an entirely different matter from a players point of view, but purely from a listeners perspective here, both sound good. You could dive down the rabbit hole on replacement hardware, bridge and nut etc and still have 10K to spare…😅
I own Les Pauls from all levels, I have two Epiphones one stock, one modded/upgraded, as well as several Gibsons including a 1990 studio, 1976 Custom, 2020 standard 60s, and a 2016 Custom Shop 58 reissue. I do think law of diminishing returns the higher you go in price with the biggest difference and improvement being noticeable going from the Epiphones over the Gibson.
Tonally not much difference, the Murphy is little brighter and more open sounding that does not make it better tonally, in fact the Standard is more pleasing to my hear for lead and solo stuff in this clip, it sounds slightly more compressed and fatter. The difference maybe in the way they feel - the Murphy may feel better but that only the player will know as listener it does not matter both sound good.
I still really believe it just comes down to the nylon nut in the custom Gibson's that give it that ring acoustically, would LOVE to see you put a nylon nut in the standard and do this again
Small differences in tone, one is not better than the other. Irrelevant. I recently saw a YT video "Blind Test" involving 3 Flutes, and 3 Violins price ranged from $69 to $10,000,000 played by World famous Classical musicians. It was fascinating to see how much they had to struggle to guess which was which, and the criteria they used. You can play along and see how well you guessed. The video is called "Can pros tell which INSTRUMENT is more expensive? [Blind Test]" on the Ray Chen Channel. Remember, these instruments must perform well in purely acoustic settings. No tone knobs, EQ, or Amplifiers, so playability and volume are even more important compared to an electric guitar.
Most parts are interchangeable and don‘t really matter. What does matter and is not easy to remedy is the angle of the glued in neck. Why do you have to pay custom shop prices for a shallow angle to get the tail piece and bridge as close to the wood as possible?
For me, most of a guitar’s personality is in the setup and the pickups, probably in that order. While I typed this I lost track of which LP you were playing - personal choices really.
Don’t like Gibsons and don’t own one but was surprised that I did a double take when you first started playing the Murphy. Sounded more open and mellow to my ears through decent headphones. Not objectively better but I did prefer it. I’d expected to prefer the 2002 as I have Monty’s in most of my guitars.
If you don’t like Gibsons play one of these if you dare. Nothing like the 2002 in the hand. A good one will make anyone do what John did lol. He’s even a strat player and he looks at it like the girl that got away 😂😂
@@ScottsGuitar I’ve played 3 Murphy Labs, one was incredible, maybe the best guitar I’ve ever played, I was tempted to sell all my other guitars to buy it. One was ok but wouldn’t swap my masterbuilt tele for it nor my Strandberg Boden. One was really underwhelming. Several of us tried it and all hated it. Not only poorly set up which is fixable, but lacking in resonance. Seemed lifeless. n=3 isn’t a huge sample but the variability between them is crazy. Which points towards something going on I don’t understand. Maybe QC issues, maybe personal taste. But Gibsons don’t really do it for me. I’d rather have a tele or something modern.
@@chrisjs6123 yes I’ve had similar experience for sure. I stole mine on an eBay auction and it’s one the best guitars I’ve ever played, it’s Glorious. I’ve tried maybe 8 since and didn’t like any of them as much, and a couple (R6 w p90s) that were just plain not good. To be fair mine is ultra light (pretty close to VOS). I’ve tried mostly heavier aging and I can’t understand why anyone would spend 10k for it LOL. But I’ve played uninspiring MB teles too. Best tele I’ve played is a Knaggs Choptank and Shabat tho. I’d take either over fender team built any day, not even close imo. For masterbuilt I’m a Carlos Lopez devout, Castedosa or bust. Cheers!
Good and bad guitars are a very personal thing. One person may really dislike a guitar, and their friend may think it’s the best thing ever. The point is these things are all about how they make you feel personally because price doesn’t always reflect the end result in your hands. John is playing and recording through modelling equipment and even if he was mic’ing up it’s all so subjective. The only person who can answer the title to the video is John who is in the room playing the guitars for himself. The rest of us are only listening to a recording process of some sort, and left to debate whether you would personally consider spending X amount of money. Fun but pointless really 😊
Do have to say, this standard has a particularly nice top. I’ve had two standards since 2019, and their tops were nowhere near as figured. Also, they weighted a ton as they were not weight relieved and probably not the best woods (which is why I sold both and bought an SG)…I’m pretty sure for the Murphy lab they pick finer and especially lighter woods. Does that justify the price difference…..pfffff nah
My epiphone Les Paul Custom guitars weigh 8.2lbs. each, one Gibson humbuckers, the other (1955 reishj) Gibson P90 pickups. I could never find a Gibson that light, and both are flawless - good luck finding a flawless Gibson production guitar! I prefer poly to cheap nitro with plasticizers anyways.
I felt the Murphy Lab guitar had more texture to the tone in a musically inspiring way. The other guitar sounded great but was a little more one dimensional.
@@ces69 lol I have one of those too buddy got me tried fooling me😂😂. Hey man if u need a guitar to beat senselessly or make a Frankenstein you could do worse than some of those fakes! Just need full set up and fret level and they can do some damage, just don’t ever take it out of the house 😂
@@ScottsGuitar I’ve got a couple of the Chinese Burny’s, a Goldtop with P90’s and a Jimmy Paige Black Beauty with Bigsby. Amazing guitars for sensible money!
@@ces69 definitely potential, but don’t forget why these are so cheap, something had to give on the manufacturing side I.e wages. Don’t get something for nothing these days!
I think yours sounds a bit better to my ears. They are so close. Be careful with leaning those without a stand, that is how those Headstocks get broken, I always put mine in it's case, if I did lay it down on a flat surface I did it with pickups facing the ground, less chance of Hd or neck injurys.
I think Murphy lab makes sense for me when I can't afford to purchase an original 59 but could save a bit and potentially get a Murphy lab with the specs I want. Though I'm not totally a gibson guy, I just dont see any other company with a strong history doing anything like Murphy lab anytime soon. Come on fender we need some great remakes of these classic guitars down to the true specs of yester years and a price tag of $7,000.
You’ve been brainwashed into thinking the more expensive the price tag the better sounding and feel an instrument is. Fender’s American Vintage II series for example is the best sounding and feel vintage style instruments fender has made and it’s a fraction of the cost of the custom shop relics and master builds.
I think one thing we fail to appreciate, is that if the rest of the signal chain is the same, the differences are negligible. I know this is obvious, but hear me out! The Murphy likely has the "potential" to sound better, but if you're making a serious upgrade to one piece of your chain, without the rest going up along with it (monitors, amp, etc) then what's the point?? I worked in the cycling industry for a decade and the amount of times someone would buy serious wheels and cheap out on tires, or buy a new frame only to port over all their crap from another, it was always the same complaint "I thought it would be better". And as always, you do hit the other side of the bell curve, that of diminishing returns... Anyways I'm just here for the playing anyways!🎉
Proof is in the pudding, my girlfriend just walked in and said "you listen to this guy all the time and he has a million guitars and he always sounds the same 😅😅😅"
Here is the brutal truth. That extra 3x the amount you pay for is for the feel, look, and knowing you own a custom shop relic. The sound difference varies from guitar to guitar and the main reason for it is the setup, PU and pots used. Assuming you use the exact PU and pots it’s not gonna sound any different. Whether you think what’s worth it or not is entirely personal. Tbf the more expensive gear typically come setup better so you may feel it plays better and sound better. Truth be told custom shop does not make the guitar sound better than a standard USA made.
NIGHT AND DAY I OWNED AND PLAYED DOZENS OF THESE MURPHS AND STANDARD......if u have the money cs or murphy absolutely blows away the standards....sound feel weight on and on...but u will always be easily over 5k.to 10k
They both sound great but to me, listening through decent monitor speakers, the 2002 with montys underwounds is a clear winner for clarity and tone. That's not to say some won't prefer the Murphey lab. Just shows the most expensive is not aways the best imo of course.
I almost like the standard better as far as the sound. The Murphy sounded somewhat strident depending on what you were playing. Not sure it is worth $3K more.
I always listen to RUclips through surround sound..acoustically the Murphy labs sounded more open...as soon as you played the DI there was virtually no difference and once you added gain they sounded identical. I like to play the "look away from the screen and look back when the guitar changes" I never looked back. Now as to how they feel...well only you will know...but if you want your Les Paul to feel the same...grab some 3000 grit wet and dry and sand lightly and you will knock back the high shine/ stickiness of the nitro. Obviously you do this at your own risk but having made quite a few guitars in my time the whole Murphy labs thing makes me laugh whenever I think about people selling out £7k plus for one... Gibson probably can't believe their luck that guitarists fall for this huge upcharge on a standard guitar...and the irony of Agnessi (?) touting "play authentic" what the hell is authentic about faking a new Gibson to look like a vintage model.... .
A lot of guitars sound similar through Helix, Fractal and such, except for maybe the Kemper, but the ML that I had was head and shoulders above any other “new” LP. IMHO
7k for a guitar is outrageous. I honestly can't believe people are paying these prices. Gibson "custom shop" now produce so many guitars it can no longer be considered a custom shop. Imagine paying 7k for a guitar with plastic tuners
The ppl who buy these don't play them, They end up on a wall in a lawyer or dentists office. Hey as long as there are ppl with money there will be a product to fit their outlook in life.
I like your channel a lot and you're a great player but there's no way you're affording all this gear off music. There's very, very few musicians making that kind of money.
My guess is a lot of the gear is sent out to be demoed by companies or music shops. Most of it probably has to go back when he’s done. That’s how it works with a lot of other channels anyway.
yepp same here, isn t that a shame, i would really like to have one - just like you - and...i think we deserve one. i turn 50 in june and for month and month i try to figure out how i could make this dream become true. Same with a nice strat, fender CS or Suhr....no idea. All the best ftom here, greetings from germany.
I live on a meager pension. My monthly income is under $1000 Canadian per month. I pay property taxes, registration for 2 vehicles and I can Afford to save enough to buy a $2000 guitar. How is it you can't? I don't drink nor smoke, that's probably why.
@@patrickmckay6621100 Euro a month, you’ll have it in 4 years or less for a decent used copy of a Murphy Lab. Does it suck? Yes. Will you be 54 with a lifetime still to enjoy it? Also yes. Sometimes need to play the long game, that’s what I had to do unfortunately. If you want it bad enough you’ll find a way. Just may not be immediate gratification. For what it’s worth though, it Was worth the struggle.
@@dragan4658Firstly, I think it’s really clever that you can. However, every country is different in terms of living costs. It also depends on your personal circumstances, maybe they have children to care for.
I'd really like to see your reaction to my '59 ASFB from Epiphone. Paid $799 for it when they first released them. Other than the headstock shape, there's no difference. Anything beyond that is all in your head. On a side note, Epiphone will be releasing the new customshop version with a Gibson headstock. What will be the excuse for hating on them then? Country of production?
Even if Gibson were good guitars I wouldn't part with £2000. You can do better elsewhere. Gibson are on a slippery slope to being outgunned by guitar brands that players can actually afford.
For me, I always prefer a thin neck and very big frets, which is the opposite of the Gibson Murphy Lab. Then again, there's no danger me me buying a guitar for 7 grand. I'll continue to slum it with my Gibson Les Paul 50s Tribute.
The nitro they use on Murphy is not closer to the vintage nitro and Gibson never claimed that. Where are you getting that from? The Murphy finish is made so it ages faster because they say they want to give you the experiecnce of owning a vintage guitar. That is a big difference. Just in terms of what is more accurate to the finish delivered on an original 50's guitar, the regular Historic line is actually closer.
Thank God you're here to let us know that this video is completely irrelevant because the content creator didn't know Murphy Labs uses a slightly different nitro formula than the reissues. His whole commentary is null in void thanks to your quick work. 🙄 😅
I love my r9. Not sure how much it differs from a Murphy lab, but I’m happy to have it naturally age over time with me
I much prefer to let them age with play. Can’t abide by relic’d guitars.
Hi John. Thanks for another great video. There’s no question there’s something special about your friend’s Murphy Lab Les Paul. You said something about how the guitar resonates more and how you notice it when you play it acoustically.
You might want to compare the bridge, saddles, adjustment wheels, tailpiece, and mounting studs between your Les Paul Standard and the Murphy Lab. I’ve heard the materials that were used in the vintage 50s Gibsons are a lot different than what’s used today and that this can have a big impact on how the guitar resonates and sounds.
I’ve heard vintage Gibsons used brass for the studs and for the saddles whereas some of the newer Gibson‘s use steel. Similarly, vintage Gibsons used lightweight aluminum for the tailpiece whereas some of the newer Gibson‘s use zinc.
I’ve got an old 76 Les Paul deluxe that I recently upgraded with a more vintage spec bridge and tailpiece that I purchased from Faber. I installed their Tone-Lock Master Kit. There are similar products offered by other companies. My guitar feels more responsive and resonant with the updated bridge and tailpiece materials. It sustains longer and has a warmer / rounder tone.
I think your Les Paul sounds fantastic. You might want to experiment with a more vintage style bridge/tailpiece on the guitar to see if it gets you any closer to the responsiveness and tone of your friend’s more vintage spec Les Paul.
I look forward to your videos. Keep up the great work! Your playing in this video is ridiculously good!
I agree the bridge and stop bar tailpiece can have an audible effect on tone, there are some videos that demonstrate it, and the small change acoustically makes an even bigger change amplified. Pots and caps can have a significant effect too.
Just bought a Wildwood Custom SHop Top 60's Les Paul and it's gorgeous. I have had several hand picked tops from them and this is better than most custom shop tops they have, plus it's 8.7 lbs.
I picked up a 60s Les Paul Standard a few months back and it plays like a mfkn dream. I was offput at first by the smallish frets. I owned a 2001 Les Paul for 17 years that had much taller frets. But it did not take me long to realize how easy these smaller frets play. The new stuff from Gibson is incredible. Fret work is TOP NOTCH. Couldnt always say that about Gibson.
I bought a used guitar center les paul trad pro v in transparent ebony for 1800 bucks and it is awesome. I felt the same way about the small frets and now I love them. It was pleked so the frets are really nice. Rings like an acoustic guitar almost. tradbuckers and locking tuners are such good upgrades on these.
Here is a video about some of Gibsons "Top Notch" fret work ruclips.net/video/CoIpZqPXDgE/видео.html&ab_channel=LinnyKenney
I recently bought a 50s Standard (new)... a dream for me.. hope to have made the right decision (neck profile vs. 60s..)
I also have a new Gibson Standard 60's, and I love it. Sounds and plays much nicer than my 2002 Gibson Les Paul Studio.
The Murphy Lab is more live and resonant unplugged and more mellow and smooth amplified.
2:50 Always LOVED that lick. Again at 3:10
To me, the 2002 sounds more "mellow" wich more my taste. I'd be curious to try a Standard LesPaul with the same electronics as the Murphy on it.
I have a Gibson Les Paul Trad Pro V. Last night I was playing unplugged in my kitchen. A catchy little rift fell out of that guitar and I wanted to record it so I could remeber it in the morning. I pulled out my phone and put it on the kitchen counter and started playing. When I listened to the recording it was so loud and sounded almost like an acoustic guitar. I couldn’t believe how much of a sound the thing made when not even plugged in.
I 've owned a lot of Les Pauls (US Standards) over the years and moved to Custom Shop versions over the past couple of years. Every guitar is unique, of course but my 59 ML ultra lite aged's sound is really significantly different than my 57 & 58 (and my old Standard that I gigged with for years). I finally get the "Tele on steroids" thing that people talk about! What's harder to describe is the feel of the VOS & ML guitars (not to mention variety in neck shape, weight, etc). Yes, they're expensive but if you're going to play it for a long time, it's worth it (to me). I have friends who play in the symphony and what they pay for their instruments makes the price of a guitar look laughably cheap!
Both guitars have low output PAF style pickups which tend to be very transparent. Hearing both played acoustically, the Murphy Lab sounded far more resonant which really came through when plugged in. A guitar that’s acoustically alive and resonant can be pure magic!
I went on a Guitar hunt and for months I did as much homework as I could on which one to go with Murphy Lab VOS custom shop standard and when it came down to it, the Murphy lab ultralight just had something different about it
I have a 2007 Les Paul standard that I chose whilst doing a shootout of a wide range of Gibson LPs. Though chambered it rang out better than the modern standards and some of the 9hole classics. It’s started to check and has a real vintage vibe and I love it. I ride around at 8 most of the time on the volumes and use the tone pots alot. A friend kindly gave me a loom with mojito me 500k pots and Monty’s oil in paper caps…it is wired in the 50s way…upon installation we discovered the 2007 LP had 440k pots. I’m putting an AB video between before and after the change. I can very much feel and hear the difference in top end and bite…I love the sound of my Les Paul but this to me has enhanced it no end and it’s closer to the 50s sound. Love your vids as always!
Now THAT is a nice guitar
I will put my little Les Paul Tribute up against any of the expensive ones. It's a GREAT little Les Paul and I HIGHLY recommend them if you ever get a chance to pick one up.
The Tribute line doesn't have all the bells and whistles but it has what it takes to sound good, a well worthwhile guitar to buy at only $1700 Canadian.
@@dragan4658 Yeah it's really a stripped down rock machine. The used prices for them are really fair too. I got mine from Sweetwater and it was set up PERFECTLY and only weighs 7.2oz!
I have a Tribute and absolutely love the thing. Do I wish I had a sick flame maple top from a lightly aged Murphy Lab? Absolutely. But can I “get by” with the tones coming out of the Tribute and still appreciate its more “basic” look? Also absolutely. I’m glad I was able to snag one before Gibson stopped making them. Not a fan of the new Modern Lite. It looks like an SG-ified Les Paul, but ai digress. Play what you have and enjoy. :)
@@jasonswitzer1748 I like the Tribute preferably in tobacco and I actually liked the new Modern Lite. I may get both. Lots of deals on used tributes around $1000 Canadian.
To me there’s a big difference between the Murphy Lab and custom shop having had a 58 and 59 Custom shop then 58 Murphy Lab heavy aged LP. It’s like you’re playing an old guitar and I’ve played a 58. They are amazing. As an aside 58 and below had much thinner frets on the originals. They went to the fatter frets in 59 as far as I’m aware. I had a 54 CS LP and it had the thinner frets too. I much prefer the thinner frets and a bit thicker neck on my LPs. Never really bonded with my R9. Just a personal preference I suppose. Since the 59 is the “holy grail” I thought I’d love it. I really think if you tried em side by side a lot of people may have like the thinner frets and a bit thicker neck unless you’re a shredder and I’m not.
I agree the Murphy lab guitars are too pricy for me, but I do plan to get a Gibson or Maybach which is in the $2000 + price range. They are worth it. Thanks for sharing.
Those Maybach’s are absolutely stunning. Also check out Panucci, they do an Ol Red style custom with P90’s, it’s as good as the Murphy lab stuff at half the price
@DeeSee77 the thing I don't line about Panicci and other custom builders is they have a website with specs but no pricing. I guess they aren't interested in selling guitars lol.
I'm delighted with a used Maybach Lester Honey Pie I found on Reverb, never even heard of the brand previously, was a great deal too, the seller said he had an R8 and didn't need it anymore, so I guess an R8 is even better, but this Maybach if far better than my Eastman SB59v or Epiphone 59 reissue. The finish is incredible, and the German made Amber pickups sound just like old PAFs to me, even better than Antiquity 2 or custom buckers which were my favorites previously - all those pickups are unpotted. I have potted Lollar Imperials in the Eastman, which sound great, but not quite as good.
@pharmerdavid1432 I don't know of the R9 is better than the Maybach, Ide say it's debatable and a matter of preference. I have a few lower to midrange guitars that hold their own with guitars more than 2-3 times their cost. No Maybach dealers where I am so unless I order from Europe, it will have to be a Gibson. For now my Epiphone Sg Pro rocks quite well, and I'm really pleased with it.
I owned the R7-type Maybach, great guitar. High quality guitar. Try an Eastman too, just sold a DC LP Jr-style. I also had three CS Gibsons (R8, R6 and a 1952 tribute). In the end I sold all of them. I like simpler, lighter guitars so my main ones now are a Collings 290, Maybach SG Jr-style, Gibson SG Std and a 1995 white Gibson Flying V.
Thoughts on the Monty’s PAF’s vs Lollar imperials or any other PAF style pickups?
He put Monty's PAFs in his 50's standard, if I remember correctly, probably the reason it sound as good as the custom buckers in the ML58.
I know both guitars sound great in your hands! Amazing playing, as always!
Yes, there is a difference❤❤❤
Babe wake up, a new John cordy video dropped (released if you’re in the Home Counties)
@@steveymoon it’s common parlance for when something is released. What is confusing you?
@@steveymoon pick a place. It’s a perfectly cromulent use of the phrase
@@steveymoon idk stevie, it’s almost like language changes through usage. You can say “a new video dropped” and still use “released” for things like “you’ve clearly released your grip on what’s important” you’re about ten years behind
@@steveymoon jumped on the bandwagon? For something that entered the lexicon nearly 14 years ago? Language evolves brosef, don’t gatekeep. Also “Wake up babe x has dropped” is a meme.
I prefer the quilty flame on the Murphy Lab and the tone. But I hate relic’d guitars and I certainly wouldn’t pay extra for one.
Acoustically, it’s a wipeout. The Murphy sounds so much better. But amplified, it’s really more a matter of personal preference and could go either way. I think that’s true likely because the Monty’s raise the game for the Standard.
I garuntee you. That nobody cares about the acoustic sound of an electric guitar
Not true at all. Plenty of people play them acoustically first when shopping and if they don’t sound good, they don’t even plug them in. @@treastonschmuckley5111
@@treastonschmuckley5111 7k for an electric guitar that sounds nice unplugged. Ffs
I owned a 2002 LP standard, I loved how it played and how it sounded but it wouldn’t stay in tune so I sold it. I’ve played a handful of LP’s thru-out the years and they all had different neck profiles, my 2002 standard was the middle of the road not to thick, not to skinny neck. I played an R8 that had a softball bat as a neck, and a new LP Standard that has a slinky neck, almost like a afinity squire!
I wish you would show close up of those tops, or even macro shots of specifically to 58
I can personally speak to this issue as of late. I have been playing guitar for a long time and am a pretty decent level. I have owned a 1990 LP classic since 1991, and over the last 4 years somehow manged to acquire 4 LP standards! It was a excessive but I kept chasing ones with specific tops and one's I drooled over as a kid. At any rate, recently i decided to sell a couple of the LPs and buy a CS 59 reissue. I sold two of my LPs, 2300 each. I was going to get a VOS dirty lemon but was not finding the wide flamed tops i prefer. Eventually a light aged murphy lab in dirty lemon popped up on reverb. The guitar was very pricey but I can attest that most shops with give you 15% off easily. I manged 20% off with no tax and free shipping, so a good chunk saved but still pricey. I have had the LP for about 4 days and I plan on keeping it for sure. I definitely feels like a vintage instrument. The neck is a bit slimmer than my 50s standards but not much. I have to say the neck is and the appearance are probably the main things that are really unique. I really prefer the thin lacquer feeling on the neck. Its lightly aged but lots of checking, but looks very natural. I do like how it's way less shiny than my other LP standards. All that said, I have a wildwood USA standard that is excellent and a CME spec standard that is also excellent. I do not think the CS is worth twice the price, but maybe 25% more. I think a lot of it is hype. They are fine instruments but my USA standards play just as well. I think it's only worth it if you can afford it and you really dig the vintage feel. I'm stoked on mine for sure.
I had to sell my Murphy Lab because it was just too expensive for me to keep. But I miss it, that guitar was the best guitar I have ever had the pleasure to own. When you listen to youtube videos sound test, you are kinda missing out on the part I think is almost more important, which is everything that is not the pickups.
You can put these pickups in any guitar.
The thing I loved about the Gibson is the neck feel, the super easy playability (I had a 59 reissue). The sound it makes when playing unplugged, and the way you feel the vibrations. I am currently waiting for a Heritage Custom Core, hoping it will give me the same joy.
Wonderful video.and wonderful playing (as always). Do you have the backing track from the intro available?
I own a 2022 Les Paul Stand 60'. No weight relief. Sounds and plays great.
Last year I traded up to a '07 R8 for about the price of the standard new ($3k USD). Sonically it isn't a revelation because its just the burstbuckers, but the smaller frets, chunkier neck, and smoother nitro does make for a different experience, which is what you are really after if you're being honest. There is a middle ground between a $7k Murphy Labs freezer burn special and a regular standard. It's worth trying one custom ship Gibson out before you keel over, but it's not going to blast into the wall Marty McFly style.
Both nice guitars. I've played a real '58, owned Les Pauls from the early 80s through the 90s models. Thing about "Custom Shop" Les Pauls is that Gibson COULD make every Les Paul like Gibson did in the 50s and 60s. with CNC machining, modern manufacturing techniques, every Les Paul that is made today could be made "historically correct" rather than have special custom models. That said, if you have the money and want to buy one, go for it.
Great guitar playing, I'll watch it again and again.
There just isn’t enough in it once plugged in to justify the $$ difference for me. Obviously the feel might be an entirely different matter from a players point of view, but purely from a listeners perspective here, both sound good. You could dive down the rabbit hole on replacement hardware, bridge and nut etc and still have 10K to spare…😅
The Standard sounds better to my ears so that is the one i would purchase but the ML looks much, much better imho.
I own Les Pauls from all levels, I have two Epiphones one stock, one modded/upgraded, as well as several Gibsons including a 1990 studio, 1976 Custom, 2020 standard 60s, and a 2016 Custom Shop 58 reissue. I do think law of diminishing returns the higher you go in price with the biggest difference and improvement being noticeable going from the Epiphones over the Gibson.
Tonally not much difference, the Murphy is little brighter and more open sounding that does not make it better tonally, in fact the Standard is more pleasing to my hear for lead and solo stuff in this clip, it sounds slightly more compressed and fatter. The difference maybe in the way they feel - the Murphy may feel better but that only the player will know as listener it does not matter both sound good.
I still really believe it just comes down to the nylon nut in the custom Gibson's that give it that ring acoustically, would LOVE to see you put a nylon nut in the standard and do this again
Nuts matter, but the bridge and tailpiece matter more.
Small differences in tone, one is not better than the other. Irrelevant.
I recently saw a YT video "Blind Test" involving 3 Flutes, and 3 Violins price ranged from $69 to $10,000,000 played by World famous Classical musicians. It was fascinating to see how much they had to struggle to guess which was which, and the criteria they used. You can play along and see how well you guessed.
The video is called "Can pros tell which INSTRUMENT is more expensive? [Blind Test]" on the Ray Chen Channel.
Remember, these instruments must perform well in purely acoustic settings. No tone knobs, EQ, or Amplifiers, so playability and volume are even more important compared to an electric guitar.
Most parts are interchangeable and don‘t really matter. What does matter and is not easy to remedy is the angle of the glued in neck. Why do you have to pay custom shop prices for a shallow angle to get the tail piece and bridge as close to the wood as possible?
Nobody talks about the body contours that are different of CS Historics and LP Standards. Rounder horn on the standard, less carve.
To my ears, from your recording, it seemed that the Murphy Lab had more resonance. But not being in the room, I could be wrong.
For me, most of a guitar’s personality is in the setup and the pickups, probably in that order. While I typed this I lost track of which LP you were playing - personal choices really.
Don’t like Gibsons and don’t own one but was surprised that I did a double take when you first started playing the Murphy. Sounded more open and mellow to my ears through decent headphones. Not objectively better but I did prefer it.
I’d expected to prefer the 2002 as I have Monty’s in most of my guitars.
If you don’t like Gibsons play one of these if you dare. Nothing like the 2002 in the hand. A good one will make anyone do what John did lol. He’s even a strat player and he looks at it like the girl that got away 😂😂
@@ScottsGuitar I’ve played 3 Murphy Labs, one was incredible, maybe the best guitar I’ve ever played, I was tempted to sell all my other guitars to buy it. One was ok but wouldn’t swap my masterbuilt tele for it nor my Strandberg Boden. One was really underwhelming. Several of us tried it and all hated it. Not only poorly set up which is fixable, but lacking in resonance. Seemed lifeless.
n=3 isn’t a huge sample but the variability between them is crazy. Which points towards something going on I don’t understand. Maybe QC issues, maybe personal taste. But Gibsons don’t really do it for me. I’d rather have a tele or something modern.
@@chrisjs6123 yes I’ve had similar experience for sure. I stole mine on an eBay auction and it’s one the best guitars I’ve ever played, it’s Glorious. I’ve tried maybe 8 since and didn’t like any of them as much, and a couple (R6 w p90s) that were just plain not good. To be fair mine is ultra light (pretty close to VOS). I’ve tried mostly heavier aging and I can’t understand why anyone would spend 10k for it LOL. But I’ve played uninspiring MB teles too. Best tele I’ve played is a Knaggs Choptank and Shabat tho. I’d take either over fender team built any day, not even close imo. For masterbuilt I’m a Carlos Lopez devout, Castedosa or bust. Cheers!
Good and bad guitars are a very personal thing. One person may really dislike a guitar, and their friend may think it’s the best thing ever. The point is these things are all about how they make you feel personally because price doesn’t always reflect the end result in your hands. John is playing and recording through modelling equipment and even if he was mic’ing up it’s all so subjective. The only person who can answer the title to the video is John who is in the room playing the guitars for himself. The rest of us are only listening to a recording process of some sort, and left to debate whether you would personally consider spending X amount of money. Fun but pointless really 😊
I like your standard better, at least the looks of it. Having just played 60's spec R0 I still like more mid range focused guitars.
a LP Standard and 5k still in my bank sounds far more appealing to me.
I have the Gibson Adam Jones Les Paul Signature. If you can, you should review one, I think they are awesome.
You are my favorite player in the world.
you will likely hear through the amp but not so much the modeler
Do have to say, this standard has a particularly nice top. I’ve had two standards since 2019, and their tops were nowhere near as figured. Also, they weighted a ton as they were not weight relieved and probably not the best woods (which is why I sold both and bought an SG)…I’m pretty sure for the Murphy lab they pick finer and especially lighter woods. Does that justify the price difference…..pfffff nah
My epiphone Les Paul Custom guitars weigh 8.2lbs. each, one Gibson humbuckers, the other (1955 reishj) Gibson P90 pickups. I could never find a Gibson that light, and both are flawless - good luck finding a flawless Gibson production guitar! I prefer poly to cheap nitro with plasticizers anyways.
I felt the Murphy Lab guitar had more texture to the tone in a musically inspiring way. The other guitar sounded great but was a little more one dimensional.
I like the sound of the standard much better here
Quite a difference between them both unplugged. I'd love a murphy lab but I'm not sure I could ever justify the price.
I stole one on an EBay auction for much cheaper 😂 sometimes gotta get creative
@@ScottsGuitarAre you sure it wasn’t made in China?😂
@@ces69 lol I have one of those too buddy got me tried fooling me😂😂. Hey man if u need a guitar to beat senselessly or make a Frankenstein you could do worse than some of those fakes! Just need full set up and fret level and they can do some damage, just don’t ever take it out of the house 😂
@@ScottsGuitar I’ve got a couple of the Chinese Burny’s, a Goldtop with P90’s and a Jimmy Paige Black Beauty with Bigsby. Amazing guitars for sensible money!
@@ces69 definitely potential, but don’t forget why these are so cheap, something had to give on the manufacturing side I.e wages. Don’t get something for nothing these days!
I think yours sounds a bit better to my ears. They are so close. Be careful with leaning those without a stand, that is how those Headstocks get broken, I always put mine in it's case, if I did lay it down on a flat surface I did it with pickups facing the ground, less chance of Hd or neck injurys.
I think Murphy lab makes sense for me when I can't afford to purchase an original 59 but could save a bit and potentially get a Murphy lab with the specs I want. Though I'm not totally a gibson guy, I just dont see any other company with a strong history doing anything like Murphy lab anytime soon. Come on fender we need some great remakes of these classic guitars down to the true specs of yester years and a price tag of $7,000.
You’ve been brainwashed into thinking the more expensive the price tag the better sounding and feel an instrument is. Fender’s American Vintage II series for example is the best sounding and feel vintage style instruments fender has made and it’s a fraction of the cost of the custom shop relics and master builds.
Custom shop have no wax potting makes them sound vintage. That biggest thing. Mostly just one is made more authentic and looks old.
I think one thing we fail to appreciate, is that if the rest of the signal chain is the same, the differences are negligible. I know this is obvious, but hear me out!
The Murphy likely has the "potential" to sound better, but if you're making a serious upgrade to one piece of your chain, without the rest going up along with it (monitors, amp, etc) then what's the point??
I worked in the cycling industry for a decade and the amount of times someone would buy serious wheels and cheap out on tires, or buy a new frame only to port over all their crap from another, it was always the same complaint "I thought it would be better".
And as always, you do hit the other side of the bell curve, that of diminishing returns...
Anyways I'm just here for the playing anyways!🎉
Proof is in the pudding, my girlfriend just walked in and said "you listen to this guy all the time and he has a million guitars and he always sounds the same 😅😅😅"
@@zachallard7010 Which is CUTS above most of the PLAYERS out there for sure. LOVE JNC!!!!
@wind016 through your phone speaker probably! In the room, in your hands, probably not so much. But what do I know!
Here is the brutal truth. That extra 3x the amount you pay for is for the feel, look, and knowing you own a custom shop relic. The sound difference varies from guitar to guitar and the main reason for it is the setup, PU and pots used. Assuming you use the exact PU and pots it’s not gonna sound any different. Whether you think what’s worth it or not is entirely personal. Tbf the more expensive gear typically come setup better so you may feel it plays better and sound better. Truth be told custom shop does not make the guitar sound better than a standard USA made.
They both sound like nicely played guitars fed through a wash of reverb and delay. Like all the other ones sound.
NIGHT AND DAY I OWNED AND PLAYED DOZENS OF THESE MURPHS AND STANDARD......if u have the money cs or murphy absolutely blows away the standards....sound feel weight on and on...but u will always be easily over 5k.to 10k
I highly disagree with your sir.
well then u would be wrong the murphys are unreal@@DevinMeister
Did anyone else almost have a heart attack when he sets that Murphy Lab on the stool 🥵
Nah they’re made to be dinged. Just don’t buy it with the intent to flip, more mojo is a good thing on these. *as long as neck doesn’t get dinged* 😂
They both sound great but to me, listening through decent monitor speakers, the 2002 with montys underwounds is a clear winner for clarity and tone. That's not to say some won't prefer the Murphey lab. Just shows the most expensive is not aways the best imo of course.
I almost like the standard better as far as the sound. The Murphy sounded somewhat strident depending on what you were playing. Not sure it is worth $3K more.
I sold my custom shop r9 and kept my standard as it was a better sounding guitar.
I always listen to RUclips through surround sound..acoustically the Murphy labs sounded more open...as soon as you played the DI there was virtually no difference and once you added gain they sounded identical. I like to play the "look away from the screen and look back when the guitar changes" I never looked back. Now as to how they feel...well only you will know...but if you want your Les Paul to feel the same...grab some 3000 grit wet and dry and sand lightly and you will knock back the high shine/ stickiness of the nitro. Obviously you do this at your own risk but having made quite a few guitars in my time the whole Murphy labs thing makes me laugh whenever I think about people selling out £7k plus for one... Gibson probably can't believe their luck that guitarists fall for this huge upcharge on a standard guitar...and the irony of Agnessi (?) touting "play authentic" what the hell is authentic about faking a new Gibson to look like a vintage model.... .
A lot of guitars sound similar through Helix, Fractal and such, except for maybe the Kemper, but the ML that I had was head and shoulders above any other “new” LP. IMHO
Very similar, (soundwise), so no reason to spend that much for just visual difference and also unplugged to my ears the Standard sounds more resonance
not even close
7k for a guitar is outrageous. I honestly can't believe people are paying these prices. Gibson "custom shop" now produce so many guitars it can no longer be considered a custom shop. Imagine paying 7k for a guitar with plastic tuners
The ppl who buy these don't play them, They end up on a wall in a lawyer or dentists office. Hey as long as there are ppl with money there will be a product to fit their outlook in life.
I like your channel a lot and you're a great player but there's no way you're affording all this gear off music. There's very, very few musicians making that kind of money.
My guess is a lot of the gear is sent out to be demoed by companies or music shops. Most of it probably has to go back when he’s done. That’s how it works with a lot of other channels anyway.
@timguntz3119 Yeah I'm aware of that stuff. I'm not trying to put the guy down, he's a fantastic player. I'm just openly being jealous lol
No! In a mix - definitely not.
The big difference is that I can’t afford either. So what’s the point?
yepp same here, isn t that a shame, i would really like to have one - just like you - and...i think we deserve one. i turn 50 in june and for month and month i try to figure out how i could make this dream become true. Same with a nice strat, fender CS or Suhr....no idea.
All the best ftom here, greetings from germany.
or some fancy youtubers telling you what guitars you def need to have in your arsenal,get alive you idiots.
I live on a meager pension. My monthly income is under $1000 Canadian per month. I pay property taxes, registration for 2 vehicles and I can Afford to save enough to buy a $2000 guitar. How is it you can't? I don't drink nor smoke, that's probably why.
@@patrickmckay6621100 Euro a month, you’ll have it in 4 years or less for a decent used copy of a Murphy Lab. Does it suck? Yes. Will you be 54 with a lifetime still to enjoy it? Also yes. Sometimes need to play the long game, that’s what I had to do unfortunately. If you want it bad enough you’ll find a way. Just may not be immediate gratification. For what it’s worth though, it Was worth the struggle.
@@dragan4658Firstly, I think it’s really clever that you can. However, every country is different in terms of living costs. It also depends on your personal circumstances, maybe they have children to care for.
I'd really like to see your reaction to my '59 ASFB from Epiphone. Paid $799 for it when they first released them. Other than the headstock shape, there's no difference. Anything beyond that is all in your head.
On a side note, Epiphone will be releasing the new customshop version with a Gibson headstock. What will be the excuse for hating on them then? Country of production?
I don't even have to watch it to say "no." No one should be buying a 7,000 guitar unless they are a collector. That price is inflated.
2005 until fairly recently is regarded as a bleak era for Les Pauls? Really?
C'mon Jonathas. Not worth it, you know that. I thought you were one of the boys.
Standard a bit more “presence” , I prefer standard here
Even if Gibson were good guitars I wouldn't part with £2000. You can do better elsewhere. Gibson are on a slippery slope to being outgunned by guitar brands that players can actually afford.
Another video on that Murphy lab you keep insisting you can’t justify buying lol
The ML is a waste of money I don’t even like the sounds of it
For me, I always prefer a thin neck and very big frets, which is the opposite of the Gibson Murphy Lab. Then again, there's no danger me me buying a guitar for 7 grand. I'll continue to slum it with my Gibson Les Paul 50s Tribute.
The nitro they use on Murphy is not closer to the vintage nitro and Gibson never claimed that. Where are you getting that from?
The Murphy finish is made so it ages faster because they say they want to give you the experiecnce of owning a vintage guitar. That is a big difference. Just in terms of what is more accurate to the finish delivered on an original 50's guitar, the regular Historic line is actually closer.
Thank God you're here to let us know that this video is completely irrelevant because the content creator didn't know Murphy Labs uses a slightly different nitro formula than the reissues. His whole commentary is null in void thanks to your quick work. 🙄 😅
Gibson just sucks. You can buy a lot of brands and get better instruments.
Only a Gibson is good enough .