Adoptions are also an interesting case because how we view them have massively changed. For the Ancient Romans adoption was extremely serious business and they were taken as seriously as kids you had yourself, it was also common to adopt adults. Adoption could be an honor if a prestigious family adopted you, in many cases your old family would happily approve and you'd still maintain some sort of connection with them but you were now definitely in that other family. Adoption also often happened for practical reasons, the famous "5 Good Emperors" were all adopted because their adopted dad didn't have any heirs so he looked for the most eligible man in the empire to adopt, sometimes very old men were adopted like Hadrian did. This is in contrast to today where some people think of adoptions as less real and it's sometimes used as an insult. The perceptions around adoptions are changing alongside our general ideas about family but it's still not at all close to the Roman model where adoption was dead serious. The really weird thing about this is that we took so many things from the Romans but this along with their views on homosexuality are some of the norms that we ended up discarding over the years.
Almost went complete 180° on the adoption view there. Nowadays, at least in the us, it almost seems to be a temp agency for unwanted children rather than actual care for children .
@@raynitaylor1912 I think this idea comes from those who were in these systems and had negative experiences such as abuse physically/ emotionally, or Neglect. These stories does paint a bad picture about adoption in general and instead of pushing for reforms of adoption centers to ensure the safety and health of children, they instead use this as an argument in political issues to justify their position or negate others.
It should also be shown that in the colonial era of America in the 18th century, adoption was generally a form of punishment for those being adopted. When juveniles would be detained they would be sent to a farm, often one with slaves, and would be treated as a slave as a form of indentured servitude where the payment was freedom. Often, if the young man committed serious crimes like murder, they would be sent to a plantation for the rest of their life. Treated the same as any slave would be. My 7th great grandfather had 3 adopted children.
Economically, it is no longer feasible to support a family on a single average income like it was back then. And why do you assume the women are the ones who should stay home while the men work? Before the 1950s, women worked like dogs in the factories of the Industrial Revolution and before that, they farmed. The late 1940s-early 70s were an economic aberration that allowed for a single-income family. And like I said, it is irrelevant anyway. Women did not have to take care of elderly parents before because people generally did not live long enough to require a lot of care near the end of their lives. They got sick and died. And now, even if all modern women magically stopped working today, it would not really help the huge tide of aging people - there are now 80 million Boomers who are turning 70 at the rate of 10,000 a day. Nothing like this has ever happened before. Not even close. We need out-of-the-box thinking to address this problem - like medical research to extend healthy lives. People get all weird about that, though, as if it's any weirder than thinking the 1950s are going to (or should) return.
It *wouldn't matter.* Put all women back in the home, jack up the fertility rate - not going to compete with the sheer numbers of people hitting their 80s and 90s now. We live in times where many things are happening that have never happened before, we're scared, and a lot of people think trying to wind the clock back is the solution. But that won't work. Better to admit we don't know what to do and try to use the many tools we have now to help us - like artificial intelligence, cutting-edge medical research etc.
You try having just one kid and having to wake up three times a night when the baby is wailing, and see how you feel about having a big family :) I won't even mention all the other issues that go into having kids. Just try running on fumes for a year or so and then get back to me.
my theory is community is more important than family structure and can be a kind of substitute. kids will benefit with most amount of adults they can confide in imo, ofc adults as well
@@hankgoresich6836 it doesn't have to be that way, though. there's plenty of evidence that community raising of a kid teaches social connectedness, offers many support groups and overall encourages children to interact with their environment more. the 2 parents thing is more of a societal expectation of life for many places.
I grew up in something like a nuclear family. But my immediate family was also extremely close to our extended family. Only my immediate family lived together, but we frequently got together with our extended family. And being Greek and Catholic, that extended family was HUGE. My family reunions would frequently have over 200 people who were no more than two generations separated from me. Hundreds of second cousins all coming together like we were a single family unit. I don't even know how many cousins I have, but I still maintain contact with most of them.
In the Akan Society in Ghana, all of your father's male nuclear family relatives (that includes his cousins- this family systems does not recognize cousin, they are all siblings ) are technically your fathers, and his female relatives are called in Akan "Sewaa" which translates loosely as your "little father".
Even here in South Africa, my mom's sisters n her female "cousins" are my moms, same goes with my dad. So i have lots of siblings not "cousins". I think most african cultures are like that.
I have a question. Do that custom reduce marriages into the same family? Because here in Europe was pretty common to be married to your cousins (or even to your aunt/uncle if you were royal or noble) and I can see how strange would be to be married to someone you know as "dad" or "mum"
@@Grimloxz The way it was explained to me in a history class I took, cousin marriage was basically a way of making sure inheritable land and resources which would otherwise be parceled out to non biologically-related relatives-by-marriage stayed within the same family.
Interesting. By that logic, I became a "mom" at the age of three. That's when the oldest cousin on my dad's side (who was twenty-five at the time) had her first kid.
I just wanna say I LOVE how inclusive this video is regarding family structure. Our historical/social biases lend us a habit of assuming the nuclear family is just the default setting, but when you look at cultures from around the world we quickly learn this isn't the case. It's a much more interesting way to look at family and humanity if you ask me.
As an exercise in history, I would like to research the connection between modern marketing and the promotion of the nuclear family. Nuclear families require more products overall in a society, whereas large extended families tend to share those products to a greater extent and reduce the demand for them. I am thinking of people like Edward Bernays and whether the promotion of the nuclear family was part of a tacit but deliberate program to expand the market for household goods.
Think: grandparents being left behind, usually to rattle around in the big house where they raised their children, and the nuclear family with small children moving into a house of their own. Results in more houses being built, more furniture dishes, silverware, cars, and so on and so forth. But it also contributed to the building of new roads because urban sprawl meant of course that new houses needed roads, water and sewage infrastructure, electric and phone lines. All in all, promoting the 1950s Norman Rockwell image of two parents & two or three children (white, always white) promoted consumerism. It also meant that grandparents weren't the natural guardian during parents' working hours, thus commercial day care. Hint: most working class women could not and still can't afford the day care on their wages. So it's not only consumerist, but also misogynistic, by forcing the women to stay at home. Thus, _Mother's Little Helper_ and rise of Virginia Woolfe and others who were against this sequestration of women. Women's suicide rate was high in the 50s.
That is disturbing... but you're probably onto something. Wouldn't the flipside be something like 'divorce is bad for the environment'? Because it requires the formation of two households where one previously existed.
Divorce is less of a problem, because it doesn't add to consumption in the same degree: about half of couples divorce, most of them after the children are grown up (I might be wrong about that), and single-parent families live in cramped-up apartments while the other party of the divorce often soon marries another divorcee to form another "nuclear family" unit. So divorce adds to the sprawl less. And I'm naturally just blowing smoke. I don't know if there's any research on the issue of divorce. But the change from multi-generational living has been studied, and I didn't even get to how many ways it adds to sprawl and consumption.
When I taught in the inner city, my students refused to believe that their father contributed to their dna. “You is what your mother is” it was very difficult to get them beyond that.
Yeah... My biology teacher also reminded us about kings (male aristocrats in general) blaming their wives for giving them a daughter when in reality they're the ones at fault 😂😂😂
@@aquaaria3489 That’s like that crap in “The Handmaid’s Tale” about how the women are ALWAYS blamed for not getting pregnant when in reality so many of the men are infertile. But since they’re men, they CAN’T be infertile according to their twisted Bible logic, so it must ALWAYS be the woman’s fault. Yikes.
In USA slavery the slave status and therefore "black" genetics passed through the mother. Combined with common conceptions of mother tongue relating to culture I can see how this concept of the father passing genetics might be hard to handle. Being the child of a white man still made a kid black.
I can honestly understand this. The history of the black family is very complicated in the US. I would think as a teacher you have taken historical context into consideration. Black families were used to being torn apart. The idea of the "nuclear family" for black people isn't the same for other ethnic groups in the US. It really only existed between about 1870-1970. I would say during that 100 year span. That seems like a long time..but it isn't. Also, pay close attention to what else was going on historically during those years in the US.
The nuclear family isn't viable for a lot of ppl anymore (if it ever was in many US communities). The nuclear family became popular in an era when the family unit could reasonably rely on one income to support the family (although that wasn't actually as common as we're led to believe - a lot of women still rejoined the workforce after their kids were old enough to go to school). In the 1990s, ppl could generally make ends meet as long as they had two (or occasionally 3 or 4 in the form of second jobs) incomes. Now? You really need to have some kind of additional income or at least support in order to make ends meet (assuming you aren't upper middle class or wealthier, which most ppl aren't). Ppl have moved back in with their parents when they have kids of their own. And it turns out, having someone who can stay home and watch the kids is a huge financial bonus - daycare is extremely expensive. Also, by splitting the costs of housing, they save even more money. Plus, the family as a whole saves more money when the grandparents need some kind of nursing or assisted living care. It turns out that inter-generational living is extremely cost-effective and helps with family cohesion. Does that mean that's going to be everyone's solution? Of course not. I can't imagine moving back in with my parents long-term (I had to do it short-term a couple years ago and got back out of there as soon as I could). There's all kinds of reasons ppl have for not wanting to live with their relatives (in my case, it's both religion and politics). But I wouldn't be opposed to that sort of situation if I could get along with my (theoretical) in-laws or even just having a sort of multi-family living arrangement with a group of close friends. As it is, I live with my best friend and I can't imagine living alone anymore, although I used to love it.
@@DissidentMitch I'm not sure how "ppl like me" factor into the equation. Inter-generational homes have been the norm across the world for as long as we've built homes. The "nuclear family" is very much a 20th Century invention and one that fed off the insane "individualism" in US capitalistic ideals. For the record, I'm a communist. I'm definitely not a fan of capitalism.
The nuclearization of the American family, i.e. the practice of not keeping the entire extended clan together, is in part a result of America's frontier culture. Basically, young men and women (and any children they had) would uproot themselves and move far away from their parents and siblings to find farmland or jobs elsewhere, and in an age before motor transport, being hundreds of miles away from the rest of your clan meant that the only contact you might ever have with them again would be by mail.
True, but the trend was accelerated by capitalism and industrialization. People had to go where the jobs were. This broke down the extended family and favored the nuclear family. Later, even the nuclear family started to became less common, and there were more single parent households. Personally, I don't Evan think that two parents is enough of a group to raise children.
i love how you always start to ask what was the common history practice BEFORE someone got this or that IDEA-L IDEA ... it helps so much! you're amazing, girl! keep it up, i really love your style!
I came from the typical American nuclear family (complete with pet dog), and it was anything but normal. I would have loved to have more brothers and some sisters, or other relatives living there.
I love you lady. Your videos are incredible to watch and I love your choice of topics. Are you a historian? But none the less, the passion you give in your videos is recognised and your ability to convey your message Is on point. You are really good
Right...because there Was No such thing as Murder and Violence when Society was more "traditional" 🙄...Some of the Most evil dictators In history came from a 2 Parent home..
@@Ditzychocofem_Rosa Also growing up in a single parent household is the most accurate predictor of criminality, but don't let that stop your narrative.
@@slow88LX Theres Plenty of Men/Women who grow Up By a Single Mother and Did great things In Life. SOOOOO many. But dont let that stop YOUR Narrative. 🙄
@@Ditzychocofem_Rosa You love the anomalies. What you are doing is exactly the problem. Making excuses for the prevalence of single parent households when on average (this means for the 80-90% of them) they are very detrimental to the children's lives. They are the primary causes of poverty, crime and early death. In my original post those are the murder rates of 2 different populations in the US, see if you can figure out who they are.
I personally feel that extended families offer the best solution. They offer the most security, the most flexibility and expose children to the widest possible social education - which is why they were the norm for the bulk of human existence (and still are the norm for all non-human primate species). While largely intact in my grandparents’ and even to some extent, in my parent’s time, beginning in my own generation and accelerating rapidly thereafter, we have witnessed the fragmentation and annihilation of the family structure, beginning with its reduction to the nuclear family and subsequently its dwindling down to single parent households. Simultaneously, we have witnessed skyrocketing populations of homeless people (who are someone’s unwanted relative), and the explosive construction of daycare and hospice facilities to care for our (unwanted) children and (unwanted) dysfunctional and dying parents. As if this were not bad enough, we now have same sex parents, which presume (incorrectly) that a woman can substitute for a father and a man for a mother in the upbringing of a heterosexual child - despite abundant evidence to the contrary indicating that the means by which males and females relate to and instruct their children differs substantially between the two sexes. It is little wonder therefore that our children are struggling academically and socially and experience an ever widening range of cognitive and developmental maladies. The policies that are in place that encourage this fragmentation must be stopped and reversed immediately if we are to have any hope of raising our children to become the intelligent, psychologically stable and socially astute adults that will be required to lead our nation forward into the future.
I just learned about a bunch of this stuff in my anthropology class! But this video really put the things I learned in context and showed how we got to today. This is the first video I've watched on this channel and I'm really excited about it! time to subscribe
She goes through a whirlwind variety of marriage and family structures across time and cultures but doesn't actually answer the question "where does the nuclear family come from?". I'm curious if the title was intended to obfuscate the facts and mislead the viewers? On the other hand, t's a great snapshot of diverse family structures throughout time and across cultures.
In sweden it is normal to have a live in partner instead of a wife/husband even when you have children together. It's so normal that we even have a word for it called "Sambo". Some people never marry at all.
I want family complexes to come into vouge again. Like the ones in pre-great leap China where there's a common court yard and separate-ish living quarters
I love this channel and I've subscribed right away after I watched the first video it's a brilliant idea. Could you please do an episode on the origins of the Calendar and its structure (1 year, 12 months, 30sh day's and 24 hours etc.) and were does it originate from. I've read once that the babylonians made it first but the year was starting in April back then but I'm not actually sure about this.
My idea of the typical family is: -One parent not around -One or a few children -One or both Grandparents in the house. (Even more if you're feeling fancy) -Any number of pets (mostly cats)
My ideal family is one father whose in the military or some other job a mother who stays in the house and cooks and cleans for the children and 4 kids 1 big brother 1 little brother 1 big sister one little sister also one dog and a gold fish usually a stairless fancy house with a car a fancy dinner table also these families are conservative and christain
The best part of this video is the highlighting and understanding of the different family types and how the history of different types of families have grown throughout history. As shown when studying anthropology, family types and kinship are extremely varied depending on what part of the world you are in and what benefits the majority in the culture. Since the constructs surrounding family types are social in nature, they are affected by the religious and role-driven requirements of the society it exists in.
lol-i have a small family, since most of my relatives wont acknowledge i exist....their loss...its just me, mom, dad, and hubby. Then there is hubby's family-but they dont live with us. I still consider them family though....
An image of what a family should look like is a fictional family because everyone lives is different weather you live with your cousins, uncle aunts or grandparents all these people are still very much your family but just extended.
My uncle, grandma, and my mom and I used to live in one house. Before that it was my mom, my uncle (the same one from before), and my uncle's now ex (but still a close family member so I call her "Antie") girlfriend. Now it's my mom, me, and my step father. I prefer the first 2 though and we still visit them every weekend as well as our extended family, but we don't recognize them as extended family but as just family I'm Jamaican btw, so I have *a lot* of family members and I only lnow my maternal family and 2 of my paternal aunts. But still there's a lot on both sides.
Thank you, I can now see how important the Nuclear Family is and how it makes since that many of our problems are coming from that dismantling since the 70s.
Wandering Alpaca just because you have a spouse, doesn't mean they will take care of you, just because you have kids doesn't mean that they will take care of you That's why senior care homes are a thing
I can't disagree, and have a good portion of my father's family I no longer associate myself with for my own sanity. However, I think relationships are what you make them. It's all about what feels right for you.
80% of people in the prison system irrespective of race come from single parent households. There is absolutely something to be said about the value of two parent households and not to denigrate the value of such a thing. I think there are merits to intergenerational living as it allows a larger support system. But I don't know many people, especially in Western cultures, that would like to live with their parents or their in-laws. I certainly wouldn't. I love both my parents but living with them would be hell for me.
Beautifully done. I started watching this rather warily, wondering what agenda was going to be pushed (being a pansexual poly pagan woman, I find most discussions on the topic ignore or disparage some aspect of my life), and was wonderfully surprised by how you handled it. This is the first video of yours I've seen - I'm subscribing now and then going to check out the others!
Danielle, What about mapping through the history of advertisement and ideals which are presented and targeted by these? I would definitely love some history facts from this snake pit (historic ads are hilarious and terrifying at the same time)! 💙
in Africa, Zambia in particular depending on tribe, your father's brother is your father and his sister is your aunt. your father's brothers children are your brothers and sisters and your fathers sister's children are your cousins
Sure, but nuclear family is not the only option. Besides, there are MANY examples of nuclear families that do not function. We should not believe the nuclear family idea is for everyone.
@@robinsonfamily222 Neither the video nor I said anything about fathers and husbands not being important. Neither the video nor I said kids raised by single moms are doing great. What I said was that not everyone is emotionally suitable to build a nuclear family, the divorce rates in the US clearly shows it. Many parents and children would probably benefit from growing in a different family structure. You need to take your political/partisan glasses off if you ever want to engage in real conversation, otherwise you’re only talking to yourself.
Love these videos, they are very informative with a lot of great details, I just wish she would slow down just a bit and give the brain time to catch up to her fast pace of speaking. Although she would have been a great addition to the fast paced dialog of Gilmore Girls!
It's interesting that people say we define what a family is while a relative is biological nomatter what you call them, who you live with, ect. The reason for IDEAL only has a place when we consider the issues with other forms. For instance, polygamy and polyandry. These unions are riddled with personal strife and familial problems around politics and property by nature. If we consider a home where the father is not known, and children have to REGARD all as one has problems as children know they don't have multiple biological fathers. And if we consider homosexual unions, it's PREMISED one biological parent being absent in the home which has its own array of problems. No need to even explain single parent homes. So, let's not speak as if "ideal" or cultural normalcy is a bad thing on face value or something forced upon us because everything else is "better or worse". Like, stop reaching.
If love for marriage is such a new thing, how is it that the play Romero and Juliet showed two young people in love who insisted on getting married? That's only 500 years ago.
You do. Humans have super intelligence, really long lifespans and means of knowing stuff we weren't there to witness, making us essentially gods compared to other animals.
My grandma four sons. Two of my uncles have two kids. My other uncle had I think eight or nine kids with my ex-aunt, plus the two or three kids he has now with my aunt-in-law. I'm technically an only child but have two stepbrothers. I almost wasn't born and regardless of how my mom and dad's marriage would've ended up, they might not have had any kids. I don't know about the rest of the family, but mine isn't a nuclear family at all lol
If it was natural.. humans would have been doing it since the dawn of times or you would even see it in majority of the animal kingdom in nature.. the nuclear family is a furthest thing from human nature
Wish you would have touched on the African family structure before slavery instead of a European perspective. Talk about a history that you can see urself in.
In short, statistically, the ideal family is one with both loving biological parents in the home working together as a team to raise the children. Having supportive extended family members close by (living with or within short driving distance) is even better. This provides the best outcomes for children in almost every facet of life IF, and it's a big IF, the family is selfless, respectful, and honest with each other. Of course, life isn't ideal for most of us, we don't get to pick our parents, and the past can't be changed, but we can aim to improve the future for our next generation, and in the meantime, support all loving families of all kinds because it truly does take a village.
The alumni were in ancient Rome, not ancient Greece. There is no such Greek word. Also, in the middle ages Christianity was pretty much established everywhere in Southern Europe, so the nuclear family should've been the norm. So what was the real reason for the many intergenerational families?
Gonna ride the world like a merry-go-round Like a Ferris wheel like it’s breaking down Drinking angel’s piss, gonna crash and burn I just want some action so gimme my turn Like a Chinese drama and conspiracy It’s the death of a nuclear family staring up at you It’s looking like another bad comedy Just as long as it comes in hi-fidelity for me too Can you hear the sound coming over the hill? Gotta move my feet, it’s coming in for the kill Ba-baby, baby it’s a blow out Like a nuclear bomb and it won’t be long ’til I detonate Like a Chinese drama and conspiracy It’s the death of a nuclear family staring up at you It’s looking like another bad comedy Just as long as it comes in hi-fidelity for me too Gonna ride the world like a merry-go-round Like a Ferris wheel like it’s breaking down Scream, scream, screaming bloody murder Like a nuclear bomb and it won’t be long ’til I detonate Like a Chinese drama and conspiracy It’s the death of a nuclear family staring up at you It’s looking like another bad comedy Just as long as it comes in hi-fidelity for me too Ten, nine, eight, seven, six, five, four, three 5-4-3-2-1 Nuclear family by Green Day
Originaly, humans lived in clans. The "original (from origen)" family Is the large one, not the small one. The terms nuclear and extended, misguide. The proper term for the family of Mom, Dad, and child should be, THE REDUCED FAMILY. So we see Families and Reduced families.
Forget what I said below, are the suburbs still racist? Why or why not? Have they become less racist or not really? Have they become more racists? Do black or Latino suburbs exist?
I'm not american and I'm not sure what the term is used for there. but for us "nuclear family" simply refers to the parents/parent + kid(s) and extended family counts basically every other relative regardless of shape, form etc.
I'd prefer my family not to be radioactive tho
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A little toxicity is good
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Adoptions are also an interesting case because how we view them have massively changed. For the Ancient Romans adoption was extremely serious business and they were taken as seriously as kids you had yourself, it was also common to adopt adults. Adoption could be an honor if a prestigious family adopted you, in many cases your old family would happily approve and you'd still maintain some sort of connection with them but you were now definitely in that other family. Adoption also often happened for practical reasons, the famous "5 Good Emperors" were all adopted because their adopted dad didn't have any heirs so he looked for the most eligible man in the empire to adopt, sometimes very old men were adopted like Hadrian did. This is in contrast to today where some people think of adoptions as less real and it's sometimes used as an insult. The perceptions around adoptions are changing alongside our general ideas about family but it's still not at all close to the Roman model where adoption was dead serious. The really weird thing about this is that we took so many things from the Romans but this along with their views on homosexuality are some of the norms that we ended up discarding over the years.
Almost went complete 180° on the adoption view there. Nowadays, at least in the us, it almost seems to be a temp agency for unwanted children rather than actual care for children .
@@raynitaylor1912 I think this idea comes from those who were in these systems and had negative experiences such as abuse physically/ emotionally, or Neglect.
These stories does paint a bad picture about adoption in general and instead of pushing for reforms of adoption centers to ensure the safety and health of children, they instead use this as an argument in political issues to justify their position or negate others.
Ok liberal
It should also be shown that in the colonial era of America in the 18th century, adoption was generally a form of punishment for those being adopted. When juveniles would be detained they would be sent to a farm, often one with slaves, and would be treated as a slave as a form of indentured servitude where the payment was freedom. Often, if the young man committed serious crimes like murder, they would be sent to a plantation for the rest of their life. Treated the same as any slave would be. My 7th great grandfather had 3 adopted children.
The Nuclear Family opened alot of nursing homes and assisted living facilities.
People living longer did too. Now, longer-lived people is the main driver of the increase in those places.
Economically, it is no longer feasible to support a family on a single average income like it was back then. And why do you assume the women are the ones who should stay home while the men work?
Before the 1950s, women worked like dogs in the factories of the Industrial Revolution and before that, they farmed. The late 1940s-early 70s were an economic aberration that allowed for a single-income family.
And like I said, it is irrelevant anyway. Women did not have to take care of elderly parents before because people generally did not live long enough to require a lot of care near the end of their lives. They got sick and died. And now, even if all modern women magically stopped working today, it would not really help the huge tide of aging people - there are now 80 million Boomers who are turning 70 at the rate of 10,000 a day. Nothing like this has ever happened before. Not even close.
We need out-of-the-box thinking to address this problem - like medical research to extend healthy lives. People get all weird about that, though, as if it's any weirder than thinking the 1950s are going to (or should) return.
It *wouldn't matter.* Put all women back in the home, jack up the fertility rate - not going to compete with the sheer numbers of people hitting their 80s and 90s now. We live in times where many things are happening that have never happened before, we're scared, and a lot of people think trying to wind the clock back is the solution. But that won't work. Better to admit we don't know what to do and try to use the many tools we have now to help us - like artificial intelligence, cutting-edge medical research etc.
You try having just one kid and having to wake up three times a night when the baby is wailing, and see how you feel about having a big family :)
I won't even mention all the other issues that go into having kids. Just try running on fumes for a year or so and then get back to me.
@@squamish4244 if sleep means more than taking care and pleasing the little one you brought into this world, then there's the fault.
my theory is community is more important than family structure and can be a kind of substitute. kids will benefit with most amount of adults they can confide in imo, ofc adults as well
Community doesn't raise a kid. Two parents do.
@@hankgoresich6836 it doesn't have to be that way, though. there's plenty of evidence that community raising of a kid teaches social connectedness, offers many support groups and overall encourages children to interact with their environment more. the 2 parents thing is more of a societal expectation of life for many places.
I grew up in something like a nuclear family. But my immediate family was also extremely close to our extended family. Only my immediate family lived together, but we frequently got together with our extended family. And being Greek and Catholic, that extended family was HUGE. My family reunions would frequently have over 200 people who were no more than two generations separated from me. Hundreds of second cousins all coming together like we were a single family unit. I don't even know how many cousins I have, but I still maintain contact with most of them.
Who cares?
I'm lucky my mom's parent's wedding anniversary only held about 50 of my extended family on my mom's side.
@@Boomboomroomish People watching a video about types of families might care about what types of families are out there. Crazy! I know...
Aaron Sailor I care
I care too!!
In the Akan Society in Ghana, all of your father's male nuclear family relatives (that includes his cousins- this family systems does not recognize cousin, they are all siblings ) are technically your fathers, and his female relatives are called in Akan "Sewaa" which translates loosely as your "little father".
Even here in South Africa, my mom's sisters n her female "cousins" are my moms, same goes with my dad. So i have lots of siblings not "cousins". I think most african cultures are like that.
In more rural areas, that's common in India, too, calling elders "auntie" or "uncle."
I have a question. Do that custom reduce marriages into the same family? Because here in Europe was pretty common to be married to your cousins (or even to your aunt/uncle if you were royal or noble) and I can see how strange would be to be married to someone you know as "dad" or "mum"
@@Grimloxz The way it was explained to me in a history class I took, cousin marriage was basically a way of making sure inheritable land and resources which would otherwise be parceled out to non biologically-related relatives-by-marriage stayed within the same family.
Interesting. By that logic, I became a "mom" at the age of three. That's when the oldest cousin on my dad's side (who was twenty-five at the time) had her first kid.
I just wanna say I LOVE how inclusive this video is regarding family structure. Our historical/social biases lend us a habit of assuming the nuclear family is just the default setting, but when you look at cultures from around the world we quickly learn this isn't the case. It's a much more interesting way to look at family and humanity if you ask me.
No clue what you're trying tp say dude... Assuming you didn't watch the video but maybe you should
@Black Knight Fool imagine feeling threatened by the acknowledgment of households that don't conform to "your" way.
It's so inclusive it includes family set-ups sure to end up in disaster and ruin your kid.
@@hankgoresich6836 Like shariah law families
As an exercise in history, I would like to research the connection between modern marketing and the promotion of the nuclear family. Nuclear families require more products overall in a society, whereas large extended families tend to share those products to a greater extent and reduce the demand for them. I am thinking of people like Edward Bernays and whether the promotion of the nuclear family was part of a tacit but deliberate program to expand the market for household goods.
Think: grandparents being left behind, usually to rattle around in the big house where they raised their children, and the nuclear family with small children moving into a house of their own. Results in more houses being built, more furniture dishes, silverware, cars, and so on and so forth. But it also contributed to the building of new roads because urban sprawl meant of course that new houses needed roads, water and sewage infrastructure, electric and phone lines.
All in all, promoting the 1950s Norman Rockwell image of two parents & two or three children (white, always white) promoted consumerism. It also meant that grandparents weren't the natural guardian during parents' working hours, thus commercial day care. Hint: most working class women could not and still can't afford the day care on their wages.
So it's not only consumerist, but also misogynistic, by forcing the women to stay at home. Thus, _Mother's Little Helper_ and rise of Virginia Woolfe and others who were against this sequestration of women. Women's suicide rate was high in the 50s.
That is disturbing... but you're probably onto something. Wouldn't the flipside be something like 'divorce is bad for the environment'? Because it requires the formation of two households where one previously existed.
Divorce is less of a problem, because it doesn't add to consumption in the same degree: about half of couples divorce, most of them after the children are grown up (I might be wrong about that), and single-parent families live in cramped-up apartments while the other party of the divorce often soon marries another divorcee to form another "nuclear family" unit. So divorce adds to the sprawl less.
And I'm naturally just blowing smoke. I don't know if there's any research on the issue of divorce. But the change from multi-generational living has been studied, and I didn't even get to how many ways it adds to sprawl and consumption.
@@VelMa-opinion The same applies with suburbanization
@@VelMa-opinion Divorce=The one leaving their problems behind for their descendants to deal with them
When I taught in the inner city, my students refused to believe that their father contributed to their dna. “You is what your mother is” it was very difficult to get them beyond that.
Why? That sounds so WTF.
Yeah... My biology teacher also reminded us about kings (male aristocrats in general) blaming their wives for giving them a daughter when in reality they're the ones at fault 😂😂😂
@@aquaaria3489 That’s like that crap in “The Handmaid’s Tale” about how the women are ALWAYS blamed for not getting pregnant when in reality so many of the men are infertile. But since they’re men, they CAN’T be infertile according to their twisted Bible logic, so it must ALWAYS be the woman’s fault. Yikes.
In USA slavery the slave status and therefore "black" genetics passed through the mother. Combined with common conceptions of mother tongue relating to culture I can see how this concept of the father passing genetics might be hard to handle. Being the child of a white man still made a kid black.
I can honestly understand this. The history of the black family is very complicated in the US. I would think as a teacher you have taken historical context into consideration. Black families were used to being torn apart. The idea of the "nuclear family" for black people isn't the same for other ethnic groups in the US. It really only existed between about 1870-1970. I would say during that 100 year span. That seems like a long time..but it isn't. Also, pay close attention to what else was going on historically during those years in the US.
Should have named this, ‘Exploring Family Types’
Didn’t get into nuclear family origins at all
When I was a little girl in the 60’s, I thought the family was called “nuclear” because it blew up so often.
😂😂😂
💀 nah that's wild 😭😂
The nuclear family isn't viable for a lot of ppl anymore (if it ever was in many US communities). The nuclear family became popular in an era when the family unit could reasonably rely on one income to support the family (although that wasn't actually as common as we're led to believe - a lot of women still rejoined the workforce after their kids were old enough to go to school). In the 1990s, ppl could generally make ends meet as long as they had two (or occasionally 3 or 4 in the form of second jobs) incomes.
Now? You really need to have some kind of additional income or at least support in order to make ends meet (assuming you aren't upper middle class or wealthier, which most ppl aren't). Ppl have moved back in with their parents when they have kids of their own. And it turns out, having someone who can stay home and watch the kids is a huge financial bonus - daycare is extremely expensive. Also, by splitting the costs of housing, they save even more money. Plus, the family as a whole saves more money when the grandparents need some kind of nursing or assisted living care. It turns out that inter-generational living is extremely cost-effective and helps with family cohesion.
Does that mean that's going to be everyone's solution? Of course not. I can't imagine moving back in with my parents long-term (I had to do it short-term a couple years ago and got back out of there as soon as I could). There's all kinds of reasons ppl have for not wanting to live with their relatives (in my case, it's both religion and politics). But I wouldn't be opposed to that sort of situation if I could get along with my (theoretical) in-laws or even just having a sort of multi-family living arrangement with a group of close friends. As it is, I live with my best friend and I can't imagine living alone anymore, although I used to love it.
No its because of capitalism and people like you
@@DissidentMitch I'm not sure how "ppl like me" factor into the equation. Inter-generational homes have been the norm across the world for as long as we've built homes. The "nuclear family" is very much a 20th Century invention and one that fed off the insane "individualism" in US capitalistic ideals.
For the record, I'm a communist. I'm definitely not a fan of capitalism.
The nuclearization of the American family, i.e. the practice of not keeping the entire extended clan together, is in part a result of America's frontier culture. Basically, young men and women (and any children they had) would uproot themselves and move far away from their parents and siblings to find farmland or jobs elsewhere, and in an age before motor transport, being hundreds of miles away from the rest of your clan meant that the only contact you might ever have with them again would be by mail.
True, but the trend was accelerated by capitalism and industrialization. People had to go where the jobs were. This broke down the extended family and favored the nuclear family. Later, even the nuclear family started to became less common, and there were more single parent households.
Personally, I don't Evan think that two parents is enough of a group to raise children.
I consider my father's step mother my grandmother. When his mother was in the city she didn't even see her children.
i love how you always start to ask what was the common history practice BEFORE someone got this or that IDEA-L IDEA ... it helps so much! you're amazing, girl! keep it up, i really love your style!
In my family, there are so many representations of family structures it be a short novel describing them all.
I came from the typical American nuclear family (complete with pet dog), and it was anything but normal. I would have loved to have more brothers and some sisters, or other relatives living there.
I love you lady. Your videos are incredible to watch and I love your choice of topics. Are you a historian? But none the less, the passion you give in your videos is recognised and your ability to convey your message Is on point.
You are really good
The nuclear family leads to a murder rate of 3/100000. The lack of a nuclear family leads to a murder rate of 18/100000. That's all you need to know.
Right...because there Was No such thing as Murder and Violence when Society was more "traditional" 🙄...Some of the Most evil dictators In history came from a 2 Parent home..
@@Ditzychocofem_Rosa Trends and averages are not a description of anomalies.
@@Ditzychocofem_Rosa Also growing up in a single parent household is the most accurate predictor of criminality, but don't let that stop your narrative.
@@slow88LX Theres Plenty of Men/Women who grow Up By a Single Mother and Did great things In Life. SOOOOO many. But dont let that stop YOUR Narrative. 🙄
@@Ditzychocofem_Rosa You love the anomalies. What you are doing is exactly the problem. Making excuses for the prevalence of single parent households when on average (this means for the 80-90% of them) they are very detrimental to the children's lives. They are the primary causes of poverty, crime and early death. In my original post those are the murder rates of 2 different populations in the US, see if you can figure out who they are.
History of peasant marriage. You should cover the history of peasant marriage.
I personally feel that extended families offer the best solution. They offer the most security, the most flexibility and expose children to the widest possible social education - which is why they were the norm for the bulk of human existence (and still are the norm for all non-human primate species). While largely intact in my grandparents’ and even to some extent, in my parent’s time, beginning in my own generation and accelerating rapidly thereafter, we have witnessed the fragmentation and annihilation of the family structure, beginning with its reduction to the nuclear family and subsequently its dwindling down to single parent households. Simultaneously, we have witnessed skyrocketing populations of homeless people (who are someone’s unwanted relative), and the explosive construction of daycare and hospice facilities to care for our (unwanted) children and (unwanted) dysfunctional and dying parents. As if this were not bad enough, we now have same sex parents, which presume (incorrectly) that a woman can substitute for a father and a man for a mother in the upbringing of a heterosexual child - despite abundant evidence to the contrary indicating that the means by which males and females relate to and instruct their children differs substantially between the two sexes. It is little wonder therefore that our children are struggling academically and socially and experience an ever widening range of cognitive and developmental maladies. The policies that are in place that encourage this fragmentation must be stopped and reversed immediately if we are to have any hope of raising our children to become the intelligent, psychologically stable and socially astute adults that will be required to lead our nation forward into the future.
Amen!!! Everyone needs to read this!!!
dang you're actually insane
I just learned about a bunch of this stuff in my anthropology class! But this video really put the things I learned in context and showed how we got to today. This is the first video I've watched on this channel and I'm really excited about it! time to subscribe
the new world order will place ur kids as they feel fit.
Getting Brian washed good for you.
She goes through a whirlwind variety of marriage and family structures across time and cultures but doesn't actually answer the question "where does the nuclear family come from?". I'm curious if the title was intended to obfuscate the facts and mislead the viewers? On the other hand, t's a great snapshot of diverse family structures throughout time and across cultures.
In sweden it is normal to have a live in partner instead of a
wife/husband even when you have children together. It's so normal that we even have a word for it called "Sambo". Some people never marry at all.
I want family complexes to come into vouge again. Like the ones in pre-great leap China where there's a common court yard and separate-ish living quarters
We have that nd some still have in India too. But, it varies across regions.
I love this channel and I've subscribed right away after I watched the first video it's a brilliant idea.
Could you please do an episode on the origins of the Calendar and its structure (1 year, 12 months, 30sh day's and 24 hours etc.) and were does it originate from. I've read once that the babylonians made it first but the year was starting in April back then but I'm not actually sure about this.
Mynolder AGM buddies are still like this mentally 😢, it's really sad
The Nuclear Family who has a Good upbringing is literally Supreme.
So is the extended family
Excellent! Well done! Danielle Bainbridge does a great job as writer/host! Thumbs up!
My idea of the typical family is:
-One parent not around
-One or a few children
-One or both Grandparents in the house. (Even more if you're feeling fancy)
-Any number of pets (mostly cats)
Also a white picket fence and mom flirting with the mailman occasionally.
My ideal family is one father whose in the military or some other job a mother who stays in the house and cooks and cleans for the children and 4 kids 1 big brother 1 little brother 1 big sister one little sister also one dog and a gold fish usually a stairless fancy house with a car a fancy dinner table also these families are conservative and christain
@@Cali-Bomb mom is a cheater
I always lived with my grandmother and great aunt until they passed I liked it more
The host is awesome :) Kudos for the whole series
The best part of this video is the highlighting and understanding of the different family types and how the history of different types of families have grown throughout history. As shown when studying anthropology, family types and kinship are extremely varied depending on what part of the world you are in and what benefits the majority in the culture. Since the constructs surrounding family types are social in nature, they are affected by the religious and role-driven requirements of the society it exists in.
I am from a Joint Family and very lucky and happy to have such a beautiful family..... I am from Southern India and family is very important to us.
Extended families are more natural where housing is short.
This channel is just proof that everything is a construct
awesome episode! fascinating to see all the family types I hadn't heard of throughout history.
lol-i have a small family, since most of my relatives wont acknowledge i exist....their loss...its just me, mom, dad, and hubby. Then there is hubby's family-but they dont live with us. I still consider them family though....
Why won't your family acknowledge you ? Any issues ?
An image of what a family should look like is a fictional family because everyone lives is different weather you live with your cousins, uncle aunts or grandparents all these people are still very much your family but just extended.
This was a really great video. Just the facts. Love it. Thanks for posting!
Since you made a video about family relationships, could you make a video about different types of hereditary powers? Such as diarchy and others?
Dense info, fascinating, nerdy, rich info! Love it! Subscribed :)
I confess I watch 1940's 1950's how to videos and I like them
A nuclear family
The best enviorenment for a child to grow
I love this show and love the host! Keep up the good work!
My uncle, grandma, and my mom and I used to live in one house. Before that it was my mom, my uncle (the same one from before), and my uncle's now ex (but still a close family member so I call her "Antie") girlfriend. Now it's my mom, me, and my step father. I prefer the first 2 though and we still visit them every weekend as well as our extended family, but we don't recognize them as extended family but as just family
I'm Jamaican btw, so I have *a lot* of family members and I only lnow my maternal family and 2 of my paternal aunts. But still there's a lot on both sides.
Exactly, originaly humans lived in clans, so the original family Is a large one, nota a small one.
She is so gorgeous.
Thank you, I can now see how important the Nuclear Family is and how it makes since that many of our problems are coming from that dismantling since the 70s.
I'm 37. No wife. No kids.
Most families to me look absolutely miserable.
(from the outside looking in)
Wandering Alpaca just because you have a spouse, doesn't mean they will take care of you, just because you have kids doesn't mean that they will take care of you
That's why senior care homes are a thing
Too much risk with the 50% divorce rate.
I can't disagree, and have a good portion of my father's family I no longer associate myself with for my own sanity. However, I think relationships are what you make them. It's all about what feels right for you.
You do you b as long as you’re happy
I'm 35. No husband. No kids.
Fam keeps trying to find me a dude. I'm like nah. Too much trouble.
I love her voice
80% of people in the prison system irrespective of race come from single parent households.
There is absolutely something to be said about the value of two parent households and not to denigrate the value of such a thing. I think there are merits to intergenerational living as it allows a larger support system. But I don't know many people, especially in Western cultures, that would like to live with their parents or their in-laws. I certainly wouldn't. I love both my parents but living with them would be hell for me.
dang the way you just lied like that insane
It is the nuclear family because it is the bare minimum of a family to have a male and female representative to guide children.
Girl i love your videos!!
Haha I was wondering what a nuclear family was. I just call them generic 50s family.
Beautifully done. I started watching this rather warily, wondering what agenda was going to be pushed (being a pansexual poly pagan woman, I find most discussions on the topic ignore or disparage some aspect of my life), and was wonderfully surprised by how you handled it. This is the first video of yours I've seen - I'm subscribing now and then going to check out the others!
Danielle, What about mapping through the history of advertisement and ideals which are presented and targeted by these? I would definitely love some history facts from this snake pit (historic ads are hilarious and terrifying at the same time)! 💙
in Africa, Zambia in particular depending on tribe, your father's brother is your father and his sister is your aunt. your father's brothers children are your brothers and sisters and your fathers sister's children are your cousins
Such a great video learned a lot
My great-grandmother was adopted.
I despise polygamy marriage and arranged marriage.
I'm ok with polygamy
The last person I need a lecture from..... I'm surrounded by nuclear families and they are productive, law abiding, stable and happy......
Sure, but nuclear family is not the only option. Besides, there are MANY examples of nuclear families that do not function.
We should not believe the nuclear family idea is for everyone.
@@eliasmontanez Sastics dont lie. Look up the outcome of a single mother home on a child development
@@robinsonfamily222
Neither the video nor I said anything about fathers and husbands not being important.
Neither the video nor I said kids raised by single moms are doing great.
What I said was that not everyone is emotionally suitable to build a nuclear family, the divorce rates in the US clearly shows it. Many parents and children would probably benefit from growing in a different family structure.
You need to take your political/partisan glasses off if you ever want to engage in real conversation, otherwise you’re only talking to yourself.
Yet it hasn’t been the norm for most of human history
When presented with statistics, data or historical facts, you still deny it… cognitive dissonance is at a all time high 😂
Love these videos, they are very informative with a lot of great details, I just wish she would slow down just a bit and give the brain time to catch up to her fast pace of speaking. Although she would have been a great addition to the fast paced dialog of Gilmore Girls!
Take a breath, girl! 😊
Because there is an ideal form of marriage. And it is certainly the nuclear family. Full stop.
I think the nuclear is the like the standard character a video game before modifying their appearance
It's interesting that people say we define what a family is while a relative is biological nomatter what you call them, who you live with, ect. The reason for IDEAL only has a place when we consider the issues with other forms.
For instance, polygamy and polyandry. These unions are riddled with personal strife and familial problems around politics and property by nature.
If we consider a home where the father is not known, and children have to REGARD all as one has problems as children know they don't have multiple biological fathers.
And if we consider homosexual unions, it's PREMISED one biological parent being absent in the home which has its own array of problems.
No need to even explain single parent homes.
So, let's not speak as if "ideal" or cultural normalcy is a bad thing on face value or something forced upon us because everything else is "better or worse". Like, stop reaching.
If love for marriage is such a new thing, how is it that the play Romero and Juliet showed two young people in love who insisted on getting married? That's only 500 years ago.
Why do you suppose they had to run away to get married?
Danielle, you remind me of me. I'm also some kind of all purpose nerd who is interested in everything. I watch all your videos.
damn that's crazy bro
And why don't I have superpowers
You do. Humans have super intelligence, really long lifespans and means of knowing stuff we weren't there to witness, making us essentially gods compared to other animals.
Really informative video.
Super off topic but where did she get that necklace? its super cool
0:33: "I speak jive."
"Nuclear family."
My grandma four sons. Two of my uncles have two kids. My other uncle had I think eight or nine kids with my ex-aunt, plus the two or three kids he has now with my aunt-in-law. I'm technically an only child but have two stepbrothers. I almost wasn't born and regardless of how my mom and dad's marriage would've ended up, they might not have had any kids. I don't know about the rest of the family, but mine isn't a nuclear family at all lol
I love this page! Just recently discovered it! I love how she presents the material! Very well done
Set your sails and go find adventure and love.
Some people may like it but man you're talking so fast. It tends to overwhelm me.
It IS the most natural one.
If it was natural.. humans would have been doing it since the dawn of times or you would even see it in majority of the animal kingdom in nature.. the nuclear family is a furthest thing from human nature
Ohana means family
I don't even recall the nuclear family as the standard. In fact, I don't even know it at all.
Wish you would have touched on the African family structure before slavery instead of a European perspective. Talk about a history that you can see urself in.
Very glad she did not say "Nuu-Cleer"!
In short, statistically, the ideal family is one with both loving biological parents in the home working together as a team to raise the children. Having supportive extended family members close by (living with or within short driving distance) is even better. This provides the best outcomes for children in almost every facet of life IF, and it's a big IF, the family is selfless, respectful, and honest with each other. Of course, life isn't ideal for most of us, we don't get to pick our parents, and the past can't be changed, but we can aim to improve the future for our next generation, and in the meantime, support all loving families of all kinds because it truly does take a village.
I like this lady.
The alumni were in ancient Rome, not ancient Greece. There is no such Greek word.
Also, in the middle ages Christianity was pretty much established everywhere in Southern Europe, so the nuclear family should've been the norm. So what was the real reason for the many intergenerational families?
makouras short lifespans is a large part of it. Lack of easy travel is the major one, though.
The nuclear family was the norm in most southern europe. Shes doesnt konw what is talking about.
You need to make a speed talking video. Watch the MicroMachine Man
Gonna ride the world like a merry-go-round
Like a Ferris wheel like it’s breaking down
Drinking angel’s piss, gonna crash and burn
I just want some action so gimme my turn
Like a Chinese drama and conspiracy
It’s the death of a nuclear family staring up at you
It’s looking like another bad comedy
Just as long as it comes in hi-fidelity for me too
Can you hear the sound coming over the hill?
Gotta move my feet, it’s coming in for the kill
Ba-baby, baby it’s a blow out
Like a nuclear bomb and it won’t be long ’til I detonate
Like a Chinese drama and conspiracy
It’s the death of a nuclear family staring up at you
It’s looking like another bad comedy
Just as long as it comes in hi-fidelity for me too
Gonna ride the world like a merry-go-round
Like a Ferris wheel like it’s breaking down
Scream, scream, screaming bloody murder
Like a nuclear bomb and it won’t be long ’til I detonate
Like a Chinese drama and conspiracy
It’s the death of a nuclear family staring up at you
It’s looking like another bad comedy
Just as long as it comes in hi-fidelity for me too
Ten, nine, eight, seven, six, five, four, three
5-4-3-2-1
Nuclear family by Green Day
Haven't you heard about The Holy Family?
MALE AND FEMALE WITH CHILDREN IS THE MOST EFFICIENT FOR HUMANS
What is the name of the presenter?
Danielle I don't know her last name I wish she would introduce herself
Originaly, humans lived in clans. The "original (from origen)" family Is the large one, not the small one. The terms nuclear and extended, misguide. The proper term for the family of Mom, Dad, and child should be, THE REDUCED FAMILY. So we see Families and Reduced families.
Girl I love you why are you so smart
Very interesting.
Why is it called nuclear family??
That’s God’s way.
@@sweetpotatopie9832 you will find out really soon...
Not Everybody believes In God
FAMILY RENISANCE !!!!
Wait, if their mother's brother's daughter was their mother... would they be their mother's mother?
It's the way things are supposed to be
No it’s not
it only came about in the 1950’s.. how long have humans been around?
Forget what I said below, are the suburbs still racist? Why or why not? Have they become less racist or not really? Have they become more racists? Do black or Latino suburbs exist?
I'm not american and I'm not sure what the term is used for there. but for us "nuclear family" simply refers to the parents/parent + kid(s) and extended family counts basically every other relative regardless of shape, form etc.