@@perle5680she has credit in 2 IZ*ONE songs as a co- writter (Dreamlike and With*One). In IVE she has credit in 4 songs as a writter (Mine, Shine with me, OTT and Blue Heart)
Just a small correction on the pick me part, a "pick me" is more so referring to a woman who will put down other women for the sake of male attention. I think it's important to make that distinction cause saying a pick me is a woman who will do anything for male attention implies ANY action of seeking attention from a guy = pick me, which would include something as simple as wanting to look nice for a guy you like. The term has gotten so watered down that now anything a woman does makes her a pick me, male attention or not,. Itzy's Yuna was attacked and called pick me for just having a bubbly personality. Also Wonyoung getting called a picked me for being cutesy is also so dumb because people forget that aegyo is still a big part of the kpop industry, it may not be as prevalent and seems to be toned down but it's still there. It's funny cause I like to imagine what the people who called Wonyoung a pick me for the strawberry would be like during 2nd gen, cause oh god did 2nd gen of aegyo cranked to the max.
yeahh that is also a definition, the one I added was from the fist website that appears when searching for the definition, it was more extense but I shortened cause I thought it fitted best what wonyoung was being hate on 🥹💗
also for the centre wonyoung part there have been photos of her not being in the centre and it looks weird (she's either in the centre or pushed to the side next to Gaeul) and then you see the height difference and it looks off so i think that's just a marketing thing
I think most of the groups have formations but they usually rotate and that is what I guess people find weird, that they are always on the same spots and even when they naturally place in other ways, they change it when there is no really need to do that?? I think itzy was hated for that too long time ago 😔
The whole center controversy is stupid. People who complain about it haven't even seen the full clips. In the award one, she literally gently pushes the other members forward to the center while they are doing their speech. Also she is so tall, so when she isn't in the center it looks quite awkward. There have been many instances of other idols switching places for their set positions but no one hates on them.
I agree but ok the height matter it depends, if wonyoung is in the center yujin has to be too cause I believe they are the tallest ones, and gaeul and leeseo would have to be at the ends of the formation, but if wony and yujin are at the end of it, it also looks cohesive!! 🫶🏻
She's not a villain. Her visuals are just better than 99.9 % of the world's population, and people get pissy about that. I never got the Wonnie fever, but most people do. *Liz is my bias* ❤
While I do agree that the company poorly handled the balance between taking advantage of Wonyoung and Yujin's popularity after Produce and giving the spotlight to the other members, I think that those two having more attention than the others at debut was inevitable given the fact that they had already paved their own way into the industry when the others hadn't been given the chance to yet by partly kpop stans who perpetuated the x member and friends narrative at debut. This was equally unfair to both the produce girls and the other members at the time. Also a hard truth to acknowledge is that generally some groups wouldn't have succeeded as much as they had so far without the favouritism of certain members. And imo, those favoured members do deserve to be given more opportunities than other members if they contribute more to the group by producing, doing solo variety appearances, gaining the most modelling gigs etc. This shouldn't be done at the expense of less popular members never getting opportunities to showcase their talent and worth in the group tho.
I totally agree it only makes sense they’re going to make the most popular/impactful and the visual{even before her debut in IVE} the center of attention to her get the group the attention obviously,but sometimes Starship make goes alittle out of proportion,it’s sad wonyoung is getting hate for doing her job,personally I wouldn’t say she’s very talented because she obviously focus on her visual but theirs nothing to wrong with that it’s still doesn’t justify her hate train.
yeah I agree 🫶🏻 the idea behind it was okay, ofcourse pushing the most popular members to debut is the best option, but sometimes it was too much, and when people started noticing and hating wony, starship should have been responsible enought to slow down the favoritism actions, instead they showed how yujin, wonyoung and Liz had each one individual bed rooms, and gaeul, leeseo and rei (the least popular members in eleven era) had to share one room, what can I say they didn't manage it well 😔🤷🏻♀️
I love wonyoung she’s a literal queen but I get how she can act “rude” sometimes she just has boundaries and I guess that’s just the type of person she is.
And the crazy part is he’s one of the most talented members in his group but people still hate him for nothing and just because he gets more attention for his visual,that still doesn’t make him any less talented tho
@@hyuncute I know, and I think that's the most mature way to look at things. :) Humans shouldn't be criticised for everything, we all have flaws, but being human also means taking accountability when it's necessary. And I think it's really nice how you were able to show both sides.
I totally agree with the last part about why she gets so much hate and Imo Wonyoung is just a little bit like Jennie, she don't get criticism for the right things because it seems like everyone forgot about when she did cultural appropriation. aside from that i enjoyed that video and if there was some idols i think you should talk about is blackpink's hate train during the born pink tour, Stray Kids, (G)I-dle or Babymonster.
Aside the stupid controversies can’t we appreciate the fact she has amazing song writing singing dancing stage presence ??😭💗
what song credits does she have ? :P
@@perle5680she has credit in 2 IZ*ONE songs as a co- writter (Dreamlike and With*One).
In IVE she has credit in 4 songs as a writter (Mine, Shine with me, OTT and Blue Heart)
talented queen 🤷🏻♀️
I will never understand the wonyoung hate
same 🥹
Same girly
Just a small correction on the pick me part, a "pick me" is more so referring to a woman who will put down other women for the sake of male attention. I think it's important to make that distinction cause saying a pick me is a woman who will do anything for male attention implies ANY action of seeking attention from a guy = pick me, which would include something as simple as wanting to look nice for a guy you like. The term has gotten so watered down that now anything a woman does makes her a pick me, male attention or not,. Itzy's Yuna was attacked and called pick me for just having a bubbly personality. Also Wonyoung getting called a picked me for being cutesy is also so dumb because people forget that aegyo is still a big part of the kpop industry, it may not be as prevalent and seems to be toned down but it's still there. It's funny cause I like to imagine what the people who called Wonyoung a pick me for the strawberry would be like during 2nd gen, cause oh god did 2nd gen of aegyo cranked to the max.
yeahh that is also a definition, the one I added was from the fist website that appears when searching for the definition, it was more extense but I shortened cause I thought it fitted best what wonyoung was being hate on 🥹💗
and yeees aegyo was HARD on 2nd generation, but I guess the perception about it changed 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
also for the centre wonyoung part there have been photos of her not being in the centre and it looks weird (she's either in the centre or pushed to the side next to Gaeul) and then you see the height difference and it looks off so i think that's just a marketing thing
Yeah i think they have set positions cause i realized that they almost always stand next to each other in a certain way
I think most of the groups have formations but they usually rotate and that is what I guess people find weird, that they are always on the same spots and even when they naturally place in other ways, they change it when there is no really need to do that?? I think itzy was hated for that too long time ago 😔
The whole center controversy is stupid. People who complain about it haven't even seen the full clips. In the award one, she literally gently pushes the other members forward to the center while they are doing their speech.
Also she is so tall, so when she isn't in the center it looks quite awkward. There have been many instances of other idols switching places for their set positions but no one hates on them.
I agree but ok the height matter it depends, if wonyoung is in the center yujin has to be too cause I believe they are the tallest ones, and gaeul and leeseo would have to be at the ends of the formation, but if wony and yujin are at the end of it, it also looks cohesive!! 🫶🏻
She's not a villain. Her visuals are just better than 99.9 % of the world's population, and people get pissy about that. I never got the Wonnie fever, but most people do.
*Liz is my bias* ❤
she's soo pretty 😭💗
While I do agree that the company poorly handled the balance between taking advantage of Wonyoung and Yujin's popularity after Produce and giving the spotlight to the other members, I think that those two having more attention than the others at debut was inevitable given the fact that they had already paved their own way into the industry when the others hadn't been given the chance to yet by partly kpop stans who perpetuated the x member and friends narrative at debut. This was equally unfair to both the produce girls and the other members at the time.
Also a hard truth to acknowledge is that generally some groups wouldn't have succeeded as much as they had so far without the favouritism of certain members. And imo, those favoured members do deserve to be given more opportunities than other members if they contribute more to the group by producing, doing solo variety appearances, gaining the most modelling gigs etc. This shouldn't be done at the expense of less popular members never getting opportunities to showcase their talent and worth in the group tho.
I totally agree it only makes sense they’re going to make the most popular/impactful and the visual{even before her debut in IVE} the center of attention to her get the group the attention obviously,but sometimes Starship make goes alittle out of proportion,it’s sad wonyoung is getting hate for doing her job,personally I wouldn’t say she’s very talented because she obviously focus on her visual but theirs nothing to wrong with that it’s still doesn’t justify her hate train.
yeah I agree 🫶🏻 the idea behind it was okay, ofcourse pushing the most popular members to debut is the best option, but sometimes it was too much, and when people started noticing and hating wony, starship should have been responsible enought to slow down the favoritism actions, instead they showed how yujin, wonyoung and Liz had each one individual bed rooms, and gaeul, leeseo and rei (the least popular members in eleven era) had to share one room, what can I say they didn't manage it well 😔🤷🏻♀️
As always you already said what I’d say 😂❤
WE TWINNIN ⭐️🫶🏻
@@hyuncute lol true
wonyoung is good person haters go and cry
shes so cute
💖
I love wonyoung she’s a literal queen but I get how she can act “rude” sometimes she just has boundaries and I guess that’s just the type of person she is.
more idols should have boundaries and express them out loud, so people know their place 🤷🏻♀️
binge watching ur vids bc i found my fav channel
thank u sooo much
Wonyoung is so flawless and perfect that people just make up the stupidest reasons to hate on her, that's so pathetic of them
some of them are just stupid reasons, and I haven't even added all of the reasons she's hated 🤷🏻♀️
i caught you!
i never had a notification came this early omg
UR EVERYWHERE!!
@@Sanatizer_1009im actually behind you too 🤭
ur soo fast 🫡
please do Hyunjin from SKZ the hate he gets is actually insane,especially on twitter&tiktok
And the crazy part is he’s one of the most talented members in his group but people still hate him for nothing and just because he gets more attention for his visual,that still doesn’t make him any less talented tho
I'll write him on my list! 🫶🏻
Some controversys are stupid, but other are compleatley valid. Like, for example, the lipsync. That was unprofecional and a plain lie.
that's what I'm sayingggg 🫶🏻🥹
@@hyuncute I know, and I think that's the most mature way to look at things. :) Humans shouldn't be criticised for everything, we all have flaws, but being human also means taking accountability when it's necessary. And I think it's really nice how you were able to show both sides.
I totally agree with the last part about why she gets so much hate and Imo Wonyoung is just a little bit like Jennie, she don't get criticism for the right things because it seems like everyone forgot about when she did cultural appropriation. aside from that i enjoyed that video and if there was some idols i think you should talk about is blackpink's hate train during the born pink tour, Stray Kids, (G)I-dle or Babymonster.
noted 🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻