'I'm not folding to this BLACKMAIL!' Mogg SLAMS American ABUSE of Brits since Mike Lynch death
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Jacob Rees-Mogg says Mick Lynch was subjected to legal wranglings in the US due to an extradition agreement that is harsh on British citizens.
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The Tories had fourteen years in power to change this Labour given injustice, and didn't. They all make me sick.
What injustice, you mean the extradition streamline agreement, maybe they should have pulled it after Harry’s case, however our special relationship would hang in the balance
By agreement england is america's poodle. What can you do.
@@DashDriver-z1r It seems to be such a 'special' relationship that we could well do without it.
Probably easier said than done!
@@DashDriver-z1rthere is no special relationship. The Americans have stated this many times, unless they want to make a war look more palatable
Yet another disgrace of Blair's law-making...
Jack Straw in particular was responsible for that fiasco. Do you remember his decision to release Pinochet on the grounds that he was "too ill" to stand trial for his crimes and who, on his return to Chile a few days later, threw away his crutches on the tarmac on landing?
Blair is gone. Starmer should be pressured to put the UK /USA extradition treaty on an equal footing.
@@JohnBarrington-y8n Blair has gone no where - he's still lurking around British Politics on the fringes, still interfering where he's not wanted !
@@jamesbarbour8400I do think Blair and Obama still have great influence on American and British politics behind the scenes.
@@myeye.6462 definitely !
Blair is a real British traitor
Blair was evil
followed by cameron may johnson truss and sunak
@@johnwildish8599Visitor to pedo island and member of the EWS club
@@johnwildish8599IS EVIL
@@jameswilson8820 lacks discernment....
And still no justice for the Dunn teenagers parents. Disgraceful.
EXACTLY
england is americas poodle.
@@VTh-f5x A surprise to myself but preferable to being a palestinian poodle
@@suzannehaigh4281 dogs are haram in Islam. 😂😂
The dog dare not question its master. Behave and know you station in life vs your betters.
When oh when will we find a prime minister of moral courage to stand up for this country?
Extinct species unfortunately.
You're looking at who we ought to elect if ever we could. JRM
@@anitaitisanita8549🤣🤣🤣🤣 God save us all
You have a better chance of seeing a T- rex than having a PM and civil servants standing up proudly to stop things like this. Unfortunately we have Starmer and labour they will give us all away to no matter what country they can to get brownie points. Anyone behind him who becomes PM will be no good. Tories will be no good and I believe if Farage gets in and becomes PM with Reform UK in 2029. He may do the same with JD Vance as President. And we also have to remember. Those civil servants that are on £500,000 a year make most decisions.
Start to except the notion that their not in charge. Then their inaction make sense.
Harry Dunn and Anne Secolas case was absolutely disgusting by the British Establishment and now sadly Mike Lynch, well said Jacob
I live near where that young lad was killed,and since his death there have been more near misses on that road with the Americans who are on that base, the council put large direction arrows on the road out side that base if you go on the base website you should see photos of the aftermath, she even hit a large stone wall near the village in her BMW,
@@joginns778 The British drive on the left hand side of the road when everyone else drives on the right hand side. What could go wrong?
@@sananselmospacescienceodys7308 wrong lots of other countries drive on the left hand side,
@@sananselmospacescienceodys7308 just to let you no 78 countries drive on the left,
@@joginns778 Lots of other countries that are on the other side of the world such as China and Japan. None of those places are within three thousand miles of the UK.
We don't treat illegal immigrants this badly.
Mike Lynch and his co-defendant both dying in unusual circumstances within 24 hr ?
And that's not suspicious ?
Very suspicious I dont believe in coincidence. Not anymore.
@@susangarbutt7189
Not since the president of Iran got a mountain put over his napper?😆😆
This is a crime syndicate in power.
Maybe he did not exercise due diligence , fafo
Don’t forget his lawyer was also on his yacht!
14 years and an 80 seat majority and you did nothing.
The TREATY was entered into force by LABOUR in 2007 with the Americans also agreeing via voting. That means the UK public voted for this treaty, one way or another - so discarding it is not that easy. Do you think we can just magically change these things? Also the Tories TRIED to do something via Theresa May when she was Home Secretary... however do you really want to anger the Americans whilst also trying to negotiate a new Brexit trade deal? Come on lol.
Blair signed the agreement LABOUR and didn’t hear a neat from the opposition at the time
14 years..but just look at the hapless leaders...
100 % correct and it constantly evades Tory swedes
@@scepteredisle that's rubbish Trump offered May a great trade deal re Brexit and she said NO, because she didn't believe in Brexit.
As an American, I completely agree with Jacob!! It is absolutely outrageous, and often times we don’t treat our own citizens any better!!
Little Lord fontleroy is wildly regarded as a moron in the uk
It was just another example of our government bowing down the the Americans. They had no need to extradite, he was found not guilty in the British court.
Might be worse than that... It's likely that people in your own government were happy with the American's actions..and, not happy with the court decision,and let the Americans play the bad guy... When US uses the UK to do that all the time.. It's so sad how we the people of our respective countries, heat voting for people, and specifically for certain policy, but we always get ignored ..
The Israelis don't allow anyone to be extradited from Israel, even for murder. So why did Tony Blair Labour allow it when the British courts have declared someone innocent.
This was a Blair deal with the Yanks that was one way ours can be extradited but not theirs to us. Another Blair cock up 😢
Ray - tk - NOT a cock up by Blair as you say.
It was intentional. When will people understand that Blair allowed everything American to infiltrate all things British. The creation of the American style Supreme court being one example.
Setting the stage for GB to become a hub of America, adopting all its worst, dubious practices in law, banking, business and Government.
The parallels between the two countries since 2020 can't be denied any longer as the uniparty sold out the country to our " allies " across the pond.
like his one with EU which involved us giving them more money.
@@manofkent4472this traitor has a lot to answer for
Its all to do with power and money...
@@Ray-tk7ei no cock up - intentional.
And Assange years in british jail without charges was a british justice disgrace.
Damned well said Jacob and a well informed commentary from David. We've lost a British hero and damn the British government (s), or simply, damn Tony Blair.
The Tories were in power for 14 years and never ended the one-sided extradition deal though did you.
Another low IQ comment - probably from a Labour troll.
The TREATY was entered into force by LABOUR in 2007 with the Americans also agreeing via voting. That means the UK public voted for this treaty, one way or another - so discarding it is not that easy. Do you think we can just magically change these things? Also the Tories TRIED to do something via Theresa May when she was Home Secretary... however do you really want to anger the Americans whilst also trying to negotiate a new Brexit trade deal? Come on lol.
hes paid to get clicks for revenue and was paid to sit in parliament to enrich himself and his friends. why would they do anything??? they chained our currency to the USD
With all due respect to him...
He was not in the cabinet
@@user-jw3vy3kf5f check his voting record...
I am a proud American. I love my Country. I hate the government.
All American bases out of the UK!!!
After it was said lynch's partner in this was killed in a road accident someone mentioned Hilary , 😂,
Perhaps you should dislike the citizens who, by majority, elect the same band of politicians once and again. In the long term, a democratic country has the politicians it deserves.
@@karpabla Well, most people, everywhere, haven't a clue what's transpiring thanks to MSM.
@@unusedsub3003 Why?
As an American, I completely agree with Sir Jacob!! It is absolutely outrageous, and we in the US often do not treat our own citizens any better!!
Little Lord fontleroy is widely regarded as a moron in the uk
Hey UK speech and thought police chief just told people around the world they would extradite and arrest for just posting on social media. That is stupid and arrogant.
Exactly! Both stink !
Well america just Waltses into frrgn countries and arrests them and don't get me started on mrder🇮🇱Inc.
You're 100% correct, and this is why a lot of us Brits DO NOT LIKE what is going on here at the moment.
But an important distinction needs to be made here. As much as Starmer and the Met Police want to swing their balls around and imply they have the power to go after all these people abroad, the simple fact of the matter is that it is all TALK.
For a US citizen to be extradited to the UK by Starmer and his posse, that person must be found to have committed a crime in both the US and the UK - if a crime has not been committed in the US, that person will not be extradited to the UK.
What's absurd here, is that it doesn't seem to work both ways. It was determined here, in the UK, that Lynch had NOT committed any offences and was an innocent man. So why on Earth were the US allowed to extradite him?! That would NOT happen if the roles were reversed. Crazy.
To be able to extradite under international law the crime committed needs to be an offence also in the country of origin at the time to be eligible for extradition. It's funny how all these pms are trying to make laws that make 0 sense and contradict our human rights. Civil war is around the corner with 2 tier kier in charge I don't condone this but it is inevitable.
They won't get US cooperation!
It seems more and more that our world is going mad. How very sad for the Lynch family.
Why does Blair’s name always pop up ?
Because he is a corrupt human being.
Because he started many of the issues we face now
When you don't do anything for 14 years, you blame the predecessor.
@@canavanibus oh come on , Blair was bush's lap dog , both went in to Iraq illegally and Catherine gun proved that and that britain lied , if any other country did that USA would be shouting about it , in the film the whistleblower about bosnia that was supposedly all for million dollar contracts for USA I'm sure
@@canavanibus much of which CAN 'T be undone.
ALL the rape gangs that were given a free rein for starters. The ridiculous American style Supreme court, unwanted WAR based on Campbell's " sexed up " ( whatever that means ) dossiers, shall I go on ?
Is Britain’s capable of finding any leader who would stand up for the nation? It does not look like it anymore does it!
i dont think you understand what the state is, or what it does, or who staffs it???
Don't we know it ,
Condolences to the Lynch family and those of al the victims of this tragedy. As an American who worked years for a particular contract which became politically charged, and which business then had to fold, I empathize not only with Mr. Lynch but with all British and Americans who suffer under the politically charged system which does not focus on justice, but on politics. This case seems wrong on all counts even had they gone after a US citizen. Plain wrong!
Everyone in the US despises Hewlett Packard over spying on their own company officers, price gouging on printer cartridges, and updates that downgrade their stuff, etc.
Their products are absolute junk as well. You would be mad to buy anything with that brand on it.
@@stephenw2992 Just the sad conclusion of a once half decent company, cornering specific aspects of the market and then falling into disrepair. HP shouldn't exist anymore honestly.
@@adastrawillPropped up through special interest lobbying... There is no free market with crap like that going.
@@adastrawill They once made really good test equipment, but the brand is actually a detriment to anything its put on these days
i am an American who LOVES America, but HATE these weak politicians lies, deceit, and in action.
Could it be that Hewllet Packard have taken their revenge and don’t forget Mr Lynch partner was knocked off his bike and killed just two weeks ago, coincidence!
Plus his lawyer and a witness - the Morgan Stanley Chair were on board.
In Bovington Tank Museum is the motorbike T.E,Lawrence supposedly fell off and died! Sound familiar?
Highly unlikely
_”American abuse of Brits.”_ It’s *STARMER’s* abuse of Brits you should be speaking about Mogg!
Both matter
Hard to believe this was an accident - which adds another vicious dimension to this injustice.
Road traffic accidents which involve US citizens are quite frequent in Britain. . They disappear back to the US.
Mathew Broderick has exited the chat.😊
How sad, that Britain turned their backs on this noble man, unbelievable injustice Mike Lynch was subjected to.
Remember the process can be the punishment regardless what happens in court.
You are both right! The British Public need protection from the American laws superseding ours.
Please fix this immediately.
The British people need their own identity with laws to protect their core values and beliefs. WE DEMAND RESPECT from America.
We want to be a nation with strong convictions of right and wrong who will stand up to bullies and not be coerced or blackmailed. Never bowing or enabling toxicity but always establishing and rectifying laws with clear boundaries that secure our innocence and keeps us independent from other countries doing wrong to us by trumping our laws.
Well said but what did the pair of you do about it with an 80 seat majority? No attempt to renegotiate this one sided treaty by our weak establishment.
America broke the treaty . One way only .
It is very very suspicious that he died on his boat, a multi million dollar yacht, what sank within few minutes (according to the captain just 60 seconds) and his co-defendant just a few days earlier in a car accident. Very suspicious.
Smells of another CIA operation
Well if the extradition agreement was harsh why didn't you and your Tory pals change it when you could?
Mogg had no power..he was an outsider.
Was too busy with his second job
@marcot4863 he was part of the government for 14 years, so was David Davis!
Too busy toadying up to the US backside.
Maybe it took things to be come apparent , I have no idea but could have been dis couraged ? , bargaining chip to oust labour in next election ? , American politicians sat on info that they revealed when trump was in to get him out , it seems it's all dirty politics these days ,
Our " Department of Justice" is completely unjust in every way.
You have to spend £30 million to prove your innocence....somethings wrong.
I just wish he had never sold 'Autonomy'
Parliament should abrogate the 2003 extradition agreement with the US. The UK should stand up for its citizens.
Those thousands of defendants labelled as “far right criminals “ received British justice didn’t they? It was once considered a joke but the last honest person to enter Parliament was indeed Guy Fawkes!
British poodle compliance with usa is sick
It's a coincidence that his Lawyer was on the boat also and within hours of the boat going down a man related to the case was killed whilst on a run.
Hey its a two way street. UK held Assange for years in a UK max security prison at the orders of the US govt only fr that case to fall apart with a time served plea deal.
Perhaps, that was the only route to save Assange from a fate the same as death... getting into The USA court system?
But the UK didn’t extradite him to the US even though the pressure from America would have been tremendous.
Of course the clear difference is nobody knew who Lynch was. Whereas the publicity around Assange extradition would have been enormous.
Haven't the British courts told the people in the Southport disturbances to plead guilty to get a more lenient sentence
That's how it works in the UK system also. Plead guilty and you get an automatic third off your possible sentence, 'it'll all be so much better for you' smooth tongues the solicitor/barristers. It won't. If you are not guilty, do not plead guilty. It's very hard to resist especially if you have had no dealings with the so called justice system and you think it will all be jolly British and fair. It wont be.
Such legal manoeuvring should not be permitted.
@@andyblyth4519That's what they said to the postmasters as well! Don't ever say you are guilty if you are innocent!!!
That being said if you go round rioting and throwing bricks at the police.... Well you are guilty aren't you🙄
@@wendynicholss6886Only if found so by a court of law.
Rees-Mogg was Business Secretary when this was happening. Am i the only who doesn’t understand his brass neck?
You should have done something about this when you were in power for 14 years. Labour certainley wont fix this injustice. They are too busy hitting the poor pensioners.
Tont Blair has got a lot to answer for, he virtually destroyed British justice in favour of foreign justice.
Cancelling my HP ink contract binning my printer.
Please read my comment I just posted a few minutes ago. Well done. You have the right idea.
The British State does not protect its citizens. We look after the interests of every other country.
Yet another fail of the Blair years, bulldozer forward without thought to the detail. Pratt.
The so-called special relationship doesn't exist - America says "jump"! And Britain says "how high"?
Jacob - did you raise these concerns with regard to Julian Assange?
This is all so tragic. 😢
More than tragic it`s very disturbing.
Mike Lynch didn't die because of a storm...
Stephen Chamberlain was Mike Lynch co defendant in this trial. He does on sunday after being hit by a car while jogging. This aeems a bit odd that both have died in separate incidents around the same time. I wonder why they wanted these 2 dead all of a sudden? And they took others with them
Wallstreet.
@paolojoosten6353
Does larry finkelstein live there?🤔😆😆
@@paolojoosten6353 Yes, Crooks
@@richardgallagher4880 I don't know.
Larry Fink lives in Davos i guess.. .
If this happened in Russia our media would be all over it. BBC obsessing about the yacht recovery operation but nothing about the "coincidence" of the co-defendant being killed.
Only people with money and fame have a chance fighting govts.
true but even they have to be very careful in exactly how they phrase every single word otherwise the thought police formerly known as mainstream media crushes them.
Khazarians don't like it up them! RobertMaxwell comes to mind.
We need to cancel this extradition law asap
Tell the yanks to shove it.
This stinks of CIA
Stop licking shrooms 🙄
American abuse of Brits ....what about the British abuse of Brits ...
I sold my business to an American Company,they tripled the administrative element concentrating on that rather than sales. It took them 15 months to run it into the ground.
We're HP due to make any financial settlements to the defendants after losing the case against them?
looks like the balanced the books to me...remember in WW2 america hired the mafia to help fight the germans... the boat disaster was on the coast of sicily, home of the mafia...
@@romeisfallingagain they hired them to make boots for soldiers that were made from cardboard I read , no idea of the truth of that tho
@@smallfeet4581 During World War II, the United States government secretly collaborated with the Italian-American Mafia to counter Axis spies and saboteurs along the northeastern seaboard ports. This operation, code-named “Operation Underworld,” ran from 1942 to 1945.
Sounds similar to the Labour judicial system 😊
To me this whole think stinks.
His business partner gets knock down while out jogging.
And his co accused was run over and died on Saturday 😮
CIA not too happy with Mike Lynch and his co-defendant! Sending a message!!! LOL!!
It's a tragedy in itself, but when it was meant to be a cruise to celebrate Mr Lynch's successful outcome from a trial brought about by an unfair and unequal extradition treaty between the USA and the UK, it's effect is even worse.
By his own admission, Mr Lynch was only successful because he could afford to hire expensive lawyers in the USA. He was the UK born son of Irish immigrants and by his own efforts and intelligence became a successful technical entrepreneur. A great loss to the UK and Ireland as well as a personal loss to his friends and family.
I feel so extremely sad thinking about the years he was forced to not return to his home and family in the UK and then he says "I've been given a second chance" and then goes down on his yacht' along with the ones who fought to save him. His life seems to have been shattered for years and then this ...
If only the Tories had been in government for the last 14 years, they surely would have changed this "situation" Mr Rees Mogg speaks of.
Yes another low IQ comment - again from a Labour activist most likely.
The TREATY was entered into force by LABOUR in 2007 with the Americans also agreeing via voting. That means the UK public voted for this treaty, one way or another - so discarding it is not that easy. Do you think we can just magically change these things? Also the Tories TRIED to do something via Theresa May when she was Home Secretary... however do you really want to anger the Americans whilst also trying to negotiate a new Brexit trade deal? Come on lol.
British justice?
What the **** are you two talking about?
A colleague of mine had a similar, if somewhat minor by comparison. His company had international patents that were blatantly transgressed by an American manufacturer. Lengthy legal action saw his case thrown out by multiple courts. The truth is that domestic courts tend to favour their own.
No - the UK domestic courts tend to *not* favour their own population. The fish rots from the head.... Woke government weaponizes the legal system to favour itself and maintain authoritarian rule over a supplicant population.
@@andrewh2u I was referring to a commercial situation. In the circumstances to which you refer, the same applies with a twist. The courts see themselves as an extension of the woke elites. Thus, they are still favouring their own. Justice being blind is an aspirational/propagandist myth.
Lets be honest if this was Russia ,it would all the very sus.
All very well revisiting what you SHOULD have done when in power, Jacob.
Jacob Rees Mogg has re-established his reputation as a straight talker and shown his fundamental sense of justice.
We should NOT extradite anyone to the USA until they start extraditing Criminals wanted in this country, which they Refuse to do. This has happened for decades where US Servicemen/dependents who commit offences in this country have immediately been returned to the US before facing justice under the Visiting Forces Act 1952, I saw it happen all of the time, straight to RAF Mildenhall and the back to the USA.
Lynch was extradited because an English court judged that he had a case to answer. Lynch sailed extremely close to the wind for years, as any CEO of the companies that competed against Autonomy will tell you. Autonomy made fanciful claims based on Lynch's supposed expertise in mathematics, something that turned out to be pure snake oil when it came down to delivering products.
HP should have looked for compensation from the consultants who did due diligence, to my knowledge there were several CEOs running companies in that market who would have urged caution if approached.
Autonomy did much the same as many Silicon Valley companies of the same era, inflating their share price by exaggerating what they could deliver.
Julian Assange was a good example of the British bowing to US tyranny
We always bow down to America this has got to stop
If you humiliate the globalists..........
American justice system ... now there's an oxymoron !
Here in America our court system is not set up for justice, it's for lawyers
Then we are to believe a random unimaginable “accident” killed so many people that were involved in this case??? You can call me a conspiracy theorist but I will never believe this was an accident along with his partner being killed a few days earlier. These people think they can get away with anything! So sad for the loss of life, especially Hannah who at 18 had her whole life ahead of her 😢 so unfair.
Change the extradition treaty before another inocent man or woman is dragged off the the Land of the Free
Desperately wronged by the UK Parliament that passed the extradition agreement. Reciprocity is key in international agreements. You are one of those responsible.
So sad that this brave and most innovative Brit died in this way so soon after proving his innocence. The death of his daughter is cruel beyond belief, my heart goes out to the wife and Mother who has been left behind. The extradition agreement between the US and UK should be rescinded immediately.
It's obvious that he was murdered .
Yes it is.. .
A little coincidental that his fellow defendant also died after being hit by a car.
I'm definitely partial to thinking the deaths of both men in quick succession is highly dubious, but the deliberate sinking of a megayatch seems hard to fathom. Doing that and making it look accidental....how??
@@not_glad Only that megayaght sank.
Smaller vessels did not sink. .
How?
This can't be that hard for professionals. .
@@not_gladsailors have been saying that they cant imagine a yacht with its sails down could be taken out by a water spout
so what this conservative 'jock' has done about it while he was a PM for 14 years? Nada, Zilch, None.
British state stand up for its citizens, dear god how out of touch is that statement 😂
Very true. It’s a one way street, and we’re facing the wrong way.
Time to unilaterally to dump the US extradition treaty.
you did nothing Mogg to help any of these people
USA’s poodle? The 51st State? It’s all very worrying
If the Tory party had your integrity, I would have Continued to vote as I have since 1979..there was no way I could vote for a bunch of Rishi Sunak type power seeking, backstabbers..so I voted reform, it is the previous governments’ childishness that has led us to now having to put up with a bunch of ill educated chancers
It’s issues like this that the British people voted for a conservative government to deal with and fix them. But what did they get a decade of navel gazing and infighting, battles over the by now tarnished crown of PM. You fixed nothing, changed nothing significant, even Brexit was a half hearted begrudging, dragged kicking and screaming to a half quasi Brexit. The trouble is there is no belief in Britain any more in its leaders, it appears its a choice of been ran by Europe or America it seems. What ever happened to the Britain, the British, that ruled the world, from lions to whimpering mice in a few generations. As an Australian I find it quite amazing, the once all powerful British who we Australian fought and died for, appears to have simply given up, and Moggy and Davis its you as leaders that are the ones I am pointing at.
I hate to agree with an Aussie, but you're spot-on. This country's finished.
@@W124phreak Well here is one from the other side of the world that hopes your wrong about Britain been finished. Britain is still the most trusted nation in Australia, after all the BS that has gone on, we still trust Britain, NZ and Canada as well even with Trudeau. We need a strong united Britain in this world to help lead the Commonwealth Realms, otherwise the mad yanks will be running the show unquestioned and unchallenged. And then you go and elect mad Keir as PM, I ask you, I know Rishi was a maggot but Keir, he is just as likely to give the Falkland Islands to Argentina as anything else.
Remember Julian.
Shame you couldnt speak up about the uk states persecution of Tommy Robinson.
Why didn't the Tories change thst law the name Julian Assage comes to mind
We're german citizens.
You let starmer rejoin us a fortnight ago Mogg!
Is it a little coincidental that his Co Defendant died a couple if days earlier, also in tragic circumstances.... Someone should take a look under the rug!!!
My condolences to the Lynch family.
Consumers don't realize the power they have. This is often evidenced when they boycott products and companies. A classic case is when Bud Light beer was targeted by Consumers.
It’s very odd, too odd, that this man and his partner, both innocent died so soon after being acquitted. Looks very much like murder? But will justice ever be served? Best advice is do not deal with Americans, ever.
They couldn’t cope with concord flying over New York either, their pilots respected our aircraft over everything. Military aircraft OURS.
❤Love Rees Mogg. Logical with information