How to Support a Floor and Kitchen Update
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- How I supported my kitchen ceiling and a full kitchen renovation update - from strengthening joists, chimney demolition, planning through to laying, staining and sealing a new engineered oak floor.
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0:00 Introduction
0:35 Project Recap
1:25 Testing Kit
5:00 Underfloor Heating
6:32 Chimney Demolition
7:28 Strengthening the Ceiling
11:14 Engineered Oak Floor
14:59 Staining & Sealing the Floor
17:09 Internal Wall Insulation
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My head is spinning! You pack so much into your videos that it’s going to take me a month to slow it down and unpack it. Amazing as always though Charlie.
Aw thanks David, I really appreciate that. 👊
A lesser man would have been in tears over all those trials Charlie. Top marks for pushing through 💪🙌
Perhaps Charlie has been in tears, and if so, that's ok.
@@jc-fy1wl I've been crying inside at times, guys. Financing this build is the biggest issue right now and what's really making me a bit teary! And it's just got worse now I'm hitting the garden. Update video next up on this. 👍
Echoing what others have said but this is by far my favourite DIY channel.. thanks for all the videos..
That's very humbling. I tell you, it's often not easy doing this creation lark but I'd have probably jacked it in years ago without the wonderful thanks and encouragement you lovely people voluntarily give me. Can't thank you enough and I'm chuffed you enjoy my vids. 👌👊 Best Charlie
This is why you’re my favourite RUclips channel.... BY FAR.
Thanks for everything Charlie
Thanks so much Matthew - I really appreciate that. Chuffed you enjoy watching my vids 🙏👊
I really admire your guts Charlie - you’ll have a go at anything!
Fingers crossed for you, Charlie. This is an epic undertaking. Just hope you're staying safe and injury free throughout all of this.
little tip, if you screw a nut onto the threaded bar before cutting them, then unscrew off the end , the bolt will cut a perfect thread allowing easy starting of nut once in situ
True but one end will always need rethreading after belting it through the joists. I'm aware of this technique though so thanks for resharing.
Well done Charlie, excellent work buddy.
Charlie I'm 15 minutes into the vid and it's dawned on me that you've picked up so many tips along the way in doing your renovations! From the rachet straps to the floor sanding etc. Thanks so much for taking us on your journey and sharing your new knowledge along the way!
OMG - when I do DIY my dad always said put it on hinges as I always change things! Watching this I have to applaud you to just doing the right thing. Nice work 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Great video Charlie, without a 🔮 I don't understand how the commenter thought you would know all the issues that would crop up. It's the joy/pain of DIY, you spend twice as much time repairing the work of others before you can get down to the job you started. Sorry to hear you're being let down by others but the work you have done since the last update is seriously impressive, the floor looks amazing. Enjoy a bit of rest this bank holiday!
Keeping busy mate? One heck of a project!
Thanks Doug. No danger of being idle here right now 😉👊
Charlie I really admire your work ethic. I wish you all the best of luck with your endeavours. Your workmanship is spot on too. Keep going pal
Thanks Stuart, really appreciate that 👊
Been wondering how you were getting on with your kitchen. What a pain to be let down by folk but the new plans look great. 🤞planning goes through asap. The bedroom floor ended up looking fabulous.
Keep up the good work Charlie. Mrs Charlie must have the patience of a Saint! 😆
Aw thanks. She does. We were out of our bedroom for a year 😬 same with the bathroom. There will be a full on mutiny though if we don't get back in there by Christmas. I've delayed the bifolds until w/c 28 August so we have to get the work done by then, with or without planning 😉
When you see how close the original joists are to the window lintel, you almost certainly could not have specced a deeper joist. I guess the other alternative would be a steel plate between the doubled up joists, much heavier though.
Yes I thought about that. We initially went with 6 inch to maintain the ceiling height either side of the steel. I suppose I could have notched the joist into the lintel. The steel is an interesting idea. I did that with the pergola down the garden.
Well done on the floor looks a very proffetional finish. Good luck with the planning.
The floor looks gorgeous. Nice job
Great video Charlie! Always a pleasure watching you work and seeing you think things through. Wishing you all the best as the adventure continues...
Cheers for the update, been wondering about progress.Fingers crossed the planning dept gets a wiggle on.
Massive project, Charlie, but as always quality to watch and brilliantly put together.
Top video,onest and straight forward regarding planning officer and so on. Take my hat off to you,call it as it is.
Thanks Robert, I really appreciate that
Really good video. So much content and great to see you doing so much yourself. Fair play.
Charlie, oh my 😮 you never disappoint 😅 stunning stunning stunning 😊
Love the video, so much to take in 🤩
Another great video Charlie with some brilliant tips for us DIY-ers. It only goes to show with the right research, preparation, tools and determination what one person can do!
You are an very clever and determined. Good luck with everything!
Aw, thanks 🙏
Nice work Charlie! it's coming along little by little :) Thanks for sharing the video with us!😎👍💖JP
That was an exhausting round up Charlie, such a lot here to process and take in ! Frustrating as it must be to live with all the delays and disruption, so much better to get it all done right, and not need to revisit later. Older properties do have this nasty habit of throwing things at you that are unexpected ! Thanks for sharing your journey with us, and good luck with the planning !
Thanks Andy, appreciate that and the words of encouragement. Yep we'll get there. Just need that planning.
Hi Charlie . Very impressive with your approach to quite a major project , sorry you have been letdown by various people . But of course your absolutely right to adhere to any regulations, and even over engineer for ultimate peace of mind . I’m very impressed with your floor treatment which looks really stunning . Best wishes and kind regards as always. 😀👍👍👍
Action packed 🙌
Top update Charlie 👍
Thanks mate 👊
Great video as always. We can completely sympathise with you on the kitchen front - on June 6th we will have been witbout a kitchen and running water and heating downstairs for a year 😫
A set of ***** unscrupulous builders who took our money and left us with half the job unfinished meant ive had to up my DIY skills and get stuck in. Ive found out that everything takes about 5 times as long but is also better finished (in my opinion!) as its my house and I take greater care in the work! Looking forward to seeing the rest of the series 👍
So sorry to hear that. You hear about this so much at the moment. Best of luck with getting the project finished. 👊
Very impressive determined work Charlie - makes me feel lazy 😂
been there & done it with planning & the bat(ty) system! - just work with what you have - perfect on the 1st floor, all i would suggest is not using (wool? / breathable) below ground! the moisture is 99% at this level from out to in, not the other way- we have similar, but upto 0.25m above & below ground level just used superquilt (or similar), double bagged + double vapour barrier, you just dont need any moisture in any insulation.
It's a very good point. By the time the insulation and UFH screed is in there won't be much of that left below the dpc but I'll definitely take heed of what you say there. 👌👊
Great video Charlie.
Thanks Steve. Had misgivings about doing this update so it's great to get positive feedback. Thanks for taking the time to comment 👊
@@CharlieDIYte it’s one of the many reasons I love your channel. You aren’t afraid to show some mistakes you might make along the way.
Love this, keep it real.
Thanks 👊
Hide sight is an exacting science. Going through what you have means you’ll probably get it right. Great vid regards Mike
Thanks Mike. It's a wonderful thing hindsight, isn't it!
Great update
Thanks Tony 👊
Thanks Tony 👊
Just had to strengthen our bedroom joists on 300+ year old property we’re renovating. To make things worse the previous owner had notched (or should I say butchered) around 40% deep out of zones! He was only running 22mm pipe too! We sistered new C24 joists (glued and attached with structural screws). Full length, creating pockets at each end like you. I then put noggins near ends to straighten and finally 3 sets of herringbone struts (overkill some might say as it’s a 4.2m span)
Really solid now though. For external joists ends I’ve just bought Soudal SWS expanding foam (I know normal is not too regs as it can shrink but this stuff counters that problem according to the technical data. As well as Soudal Vapor seal adhesive mastic £6.98 from Toolstation. Not sealed the ends yet but with these beauties I’m hoping to make an airtight seal.
I also filled the joists holes on existing joists with new wood cut and glued in right before sistering the new joists
Lovely job Barry. I had to do that in my old place in London where someone had notched far too brutally into the joists so I glued in filler pieces. You've got yourself a lovely solid floor there now!
10:45 regarding the joist pockets, we had to sister new joists in our Victorian kitchen floor as they were rotten, I always worry about joists in mortar in the wall now, is moisture only an issue for ground floors? Or could it rot the joists first floor too via the mortar??
Great content Charlie. Good luck with your planning Application.
Ps you may want to put a CO Detector in your ‘temp kitchen’. Stay safe
Thanks, and yes that's a good shout on the detector. There's a wired one on the ceiling but it needs replacing.
Great video 👍
Thanks Paul. 👊
Hi Charlie 😊, wow that's some diy project mate, triple floor joist was a good idea, you can't beat a belt and braces aproach when your doing a job, that way you sleep night's not worrying you should have done it differantly , I whish you every success whith this job, it will be worth it when you've finished. Thanks for the video mate, stay safe, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart UK.
Thanks Stuart and good to hear from you. I really appreciate that. Wasn't sure about doing this update so it's great to get feedback like that. 👊
@@CharlieDIYte Hi Charlie, your very welcome mate, you tackle projects that most of us would never dream of attempting, so it's good to see how you go about them, you've obviously got alot of skills, an eye for detail, and what's more important take the time to work out your game plan factoring out possible snags several moves in front, therefore avoiding nasty surprises further into the project, and at the end of the day you must feel a great sense of achievement in the work you've done. Your videos give me a great deal of pleasure, and long may they continue, cheers mate, stay safe, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart UK.
Nice one matey
Thanks 👊
Joists in the wall. DONT dpc and cement them in. They’ll rot.
If you can leave them open it’ll be great to let them breath. If they need mortared in, get some pre-mixed hot lime. That’ll allow moisture out.
Charlie, I am painting the outside of my house, using the Emperor render paint. This is really working well and gives a great finish. Do you recommendations for a black render paint (Emperor does not make one)? Also, while I'm at it, what do you use for painting external woodwork? Thanks!
Charlie ..... I'm a builder and have built complete houses and my share of extensions. It's only when you stand in the spaces that you are going to use that you understand the space and how to use it. I have found NuHeat very good on the tech spec for underfloor heating along with flow rate on each manifold leg. Keep up the gd work bud. S
Thanks so much for this, Sheridan. Means a lot, hearing that from a pro. Thanks for taking the time to comment 👊
Blimey Charlie, I’ve never seen so much content in a single video. I’m worn out now! Great work.
In my experience, the planners will take the maximum allowable time and may even ask you if you’re prepared to allow them more time for the decision, but hopefully you’ll have approval at the end of the 8 week decision period. Good luck. 👍🏼
Thanks Paul and great to hear from you. Let's hope so. 🤞
Impressed as usual. Waiting for my son to move out of my place next year. Gives me a chance to plan underfloor heating with a suspended floor. Get a structural engineer to advise on removal of a chimney breast. I'm very interested as to how you solve the internal insulation. My property is 1931 build with a small cavity so I don't want to fill that up 😂
Thanks Francis. Yes I'll get my structural engineer to advise on the chimney. 👍
@Charlie DIYte good. I'm looking at removing a shared chimney breast which supports part of the upper floor 🙄 bit of a nightmare
Amazing video. How do you manage to find time to film and edit them while working on your house.😮 Good luck 🤞
Thanks Kes, really appreciate that. Well in answer to your question, that's why progress on the house is so slow 😉
great DIY video Charlie,i learned some things from it,however,i would never place floor heating and a heat pump,a heat pump has only 40-45% of efficiency and constant 5Kw > (compared to a gas boiler 90-95%) you also need to insulate the house airtight,therfore you will need a costly ventilation system,unless you open all the doors and windows for a certain time,wich negates what you tried to achieve in the first place,namely,a warm (winter) house with less electricity costs,another point is floor-heating,this is not good for feet and leggs,as they are constantly heated,my future heating (if they fase out gas) will be infra-red pannels,80% efficiency with less electricity (400-500W x rooms) so with the minimum power of a heat-pump (5Kw) you can heat 10 rooms,cheers mate
Good point mate. I'll remember that 👊
Thats not how heat pumps work, a 5kw heat pump can use up to 5kw to heat your whole home but they can tick over on 500watts check out the heat geek youtube channel. Also with infra-red panels you get 1 unit of energy in and 1 unit of energy out with a heat pump you can get 1 unit of energy in and 3 to 4 units of energy out.
@@martingardner9885 yes,you can heat at 500W Martin,but in winter this will not be enough,also,a heat pump's external module will be damaged after a short time where the air is salty (coast) a heatpump heats the air,infra-red pannels heat objects,including your body,i heat with gas,but with the high prices past year i placed a 400W infra-red pannel,i was warm while the air was cool,strange but effective
4:54 is that a wet patch above the door?
Why no acoustic decoupling on the joists?
Hi Charlie, could you repeat the name of the expanding glue that you used to stop the creaking floor please? And possibly a link to buy. Many thanks, Paul
Sorry Paul. Thought I'd done that. It's Egger Joint and Joist adhesive www.ebay.co.uk/itm/E-Egger-D4-PU-Joint-and-Joist-Adhesive-1KG-Waterproof-Outdoor-Strong-Glue-/225169258822?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p4429486.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0
This is very interesting ! For me, I'd much rather have the frustrations and delays on me, rather than a builder either doing it wrong, cutting corners, or giving me a continual drip feed of bad news, while the final agreed price keeps going up. DIY is the way to go :) At least any grey hairs I would get as a result I can say I gave them to me myself :)
I agree. You're in complete control of the process and the budget. Just happens a lot slower, particularly when you're having to film everything too!
Couldn't tell if you were wearing a hard hat or soft hat when knocking down the chimney breast. If soft, then would definitely recommend waring the hard hat to set a good example to everyone. Thanks!
It's a fair point.
Are heat pumps noisy?
Wot! Sanding that floor with no knee pads, ouch! :)
Why are the builder's not doing this work on the floor? Did they install this roof that wasn't strong enough in the first place? Great work btw
Some builders need keeping on the straight and narrow by the structural guys/ architects, as I'm learning on this job! The good ones will have instinct/ intuition on this.
@@CharlieDIYteso you got rid of the original builders I assume?
Hiya, are you allowed to remove a chimney breast without planning permission. I have the same that you have and we have waiting as I had assumed that Wyre Forest would want to be consulted ?
Stack was already down so not really an issue.
Any reason to buy a mains sds over battery sds if I don't currently have either?
SDS drills eat batteries
@@darland3821 I guess as a DIYer it's not such a problem.
"Toilet roll, the best thing to wipe out the excess" - That's what it was designed for 🤣😂
despite what the manufacturer claims do you really want to take the risk and not use noggins? If you look at the proper carpenter like robbin clevett they will ensure that T&g joins always land on a joist or if not fit noggins
Heat pumps are only cost effective and work effectively if the property is well insulated and airtight.
Exactly 💯👌
Thanks Charlie, i must say i feel sorry for your poor knees at the end of the day….take care
I'm sorry, but do you actually sleep???
What I've realised Paul is that what builders add to a project is momentum through sheer brute force. It's kind what you say but if I'm to get this job finished within the next year on my own I'm going to need a lot less sleep than I'm currently getting 😉🤦
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your ceiling is fine you've double up on joist plenty of strength there ,don't get fouled by there structural engineers , I am and engineer and we always over strengthen everything in our job spec
Thanks Stuart, that's good to know 👊👌
0:50 has sound error
Yep, so frustrating. My internet is terrible at the moment and I think it must have happened during the upload. Only realised after it had gone live.
@@CharlieDIYte Can't wait for wall insulation video!
Brilliant Charlie, and just remember, opinions are like arseholes, everybody’s got one! Ignore the negativity.
Love it. Thanks mate 👊
good video charlie ! but it seemed a little too rushed towards the end of the video !
He's like me trying to fit all my problems into an under 10 minute doctor appointment.
0.75 playback speed makes it a little more manageable
My father smoked both those cigarettes Players being his number one go to first.
It seemed only sensible to repeat the problems of the past...
Those joist ends are thermal bridges, both bypassing the internal wall insulation you're planning, and presenting a condensation risk on the ends as they'll be colder than the other surfaces.
*sigh*
Although you did a fantastic looking job of packing them into the steel. Envious.
What's wrong with heat pumps? I'm heating an old (200 years+) cottage (900 sq. meters) with absolutely perfect indoor temperature even with -20°C outside? For 35 years!
Charlie's been watching too many SkillBuilder videos where Roger Bisby goes on a Heat pump rant 😅
The point is that heat pumps are going to be pretty much the only legal option soon, in a country where there are still houses with zero insulation and zero air tightness. A heat pump just wouldn’t work in an averagely insulated house of a certain age.
Also, 900 square metres?!?!
@@lukeh3020I see. Yes I heat 900 m2, basically no additional insulation since 1800-ish, just a wooden structure and some wallpaper 😄. Heat pumps works unbelievably well. I’m not trying to…stir up feelings, I’m simply curious why it wouldn’t work for you in UK as it works absolutely perfect up here in cold Sweden!
Why are you not hiring someone to do your editing?
Mid building project, suspect that’s where money is prioritised
Why? His videos are absolutely fine.!
@@luvit7567 not because he is crap at editing lmao, because it saves you a lot ( and I mean a lot) of time. And time is money baby
@@apintofstella1 doesn’t coat the earth, not only that but you could double your video output if you had some editing.
Don't be to hard on yourself, self builds are a learning curve , the reason we self build is the standard of builders or so called builders is poor
Thanks Stuart 👊
If you are applying for a planning permission anyway why not insulate your walls externally? All this effort and risk when a good solution is staring at you all along. Somehow I feel you will u-turn on internal insulation in 5-10 years.
Then he'll give us a good video on it!
hahahaha yes name and shame that silly **** whos now deleted one of his comments
Thanks Rupert. What is a "time served carpenter" anyway? Serving time isn't a mark of skill and professionalism on its own 😉🤦
@@CharlieDIYte Hey, not fair. I, myself, am very skilled and professional at my trade and the late Queen was much pleased with my abilities so much so that I served plenty of time at Her Majesty's Pleasure :(
I actually tried Zinsser after seeing you use it, and I must admit it's really good, they need to be supplying you!
It's great Giles and so many applications for it. Worth ordering the free manual from their website too. Only thing you'll find is in hot weather it dries too quickly so you'll need something different like Zinsser 123 then. Other than that it's my go to primer for everything.