Biggest European Prospects That Completely Flopped

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @BasketNews_com
    @BasketNews_com  11 дней назад +4

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    • @Thanos1908
      @Thanos1908 10 дней назад +1

      The NBA was looking for Tony Kukoc clones..

    • @Mrdelija
      @Mrdelija 10 дней назад +1

      Igor Rakocevic... bust in the NBA

    • @markomarkovic5729
      @markomarkovic5729 3 дня назад

      ​@@Thanos1908Not just NBA, entire Europe was waiting for the next Kukoč as the second coming of Jesus

  • @BBallRambling
    @BBallRambling 10 дней назад +52

    Wow. One of these videos that isn't just Darko Milicic, Jan Vesely, and Andrea Bargnani. I am a big fan of these type of videos you guys make. Keep it up!

  • @thomasarnal
    @thomasarnal 10 дней назад +62

    Fred Weis career trajectory shows most people people who call themselves basketball fans don’t actually watch basketball. He was legit but clowned on because of one play.

    • @gabepizza
      @gabepizza 10 дней назад +3

      he was the 15th pick of the draft and never played in an NBA game

    • @thomasarnal
      @thomasarnal 10 дней назад +1

      @ I don’t get your point.

    • @milesmoralescousin
      @milesmoralescousin 10 дней назад +1

      @@thomasarnalthis video is about euro players who flopped in the nba and he obviously flopped

    • @thomasarnal
      @thomasarnal 10 дней назад +1

      @@milesmoralescousin no way!!! Thanks for pointing it out, it didn’t notice.

    • @gypate74
      @gypate74 10 дней назад +3

      ​@@milesmoralescousin he didn't play one single game in the NBA

  • @Digitaland24h
    @Digitaland24h 9 дней назад +11

    frederic weis is an olympic silver medalist, two times korac cup champion, french league champion , played at the highest level for 16 years in three great leagues (spanish, greek, french) ..that's not a flop ....

  • @juliencamus3523
    @juliencamus3523 9 дней назад +26

    People talk about Fred Weis like they know him. The guy has to dealt with mental pbs coming from having an autistic son and having to go true hard divorce at the same time. His downfall has nothing to do with the Vince Carter dunk... It's really a cheap shot from your part to spread those kind of ideas...

  • @startheoo
    @startheoo 10 дней назад +18

    Just a note, Tsakalidis faked a lot of his documents including his birth certificate he wa probably 3-4 years older than what he said. You could tell in his last season with Oly ..he was like a retired player

  • @jean-claudecaillot1290
    @jean-claudecaillot1290 10 дней назад +26

    Frédéric Weiss won two Korac cup.

    • @Emile97427
      @Emile97427 10 дней назад +3

      And an Olympic silver medal, which was pretty rare in this area (2000) if you weren't from the USA. And a bronze medal in the 2005 European Championship. He's a basketball announcer since 2016.

    • @jean-claudecaillot1290
      @jean-claudecaillot1290 10 дней назад

      I only talked of his carreer on clubs. But he has also a good carreer with the national team

  • @radovanprstojevic1060
    @radovanprstojevic1060 10 дней назад +26

    Dragan Bender, Nemanja Aleksandrov, Mickael Gelabale, Marko Tomas...

    • @BM85s
      @BM85s 10 дней назад +2

      Marko Tomas was really good and shoiwed it but injuries destroyed his career

    • @gypate74
      @gypate74 10 дней назад

      @@radovanprstojevic1060 Gelabale was OK. A good role player

    • @radovanprstojevic1060
      @radovanprstojevic1060 9 дней назад

      @@gypate74 Yeah, he was ok, but he was supposed to be great!

    • @gypate74
      @gypate74 9 дней назад

      @radovanprstojevic1060 no he wasn't. He was number 48 draft pick. You don't expect a second round pick to be great

    • @NickName-s5y
      @NickName-s5y 7 дней назад

      ​@@gypate74 Nikola Jokic?

  • @armin38822
    @armin38822 10 дней назад +5

    The Awvee Storey vs Andriuškevičius story is wild. He punched him so hard that the guy had serious issues. I find it bizzare he didn't go after him in court.

  • @andrewmachado5934
    @andrewmachado5934 10 дней назад +2

    love this content. as someone that loves basketball but doesnt follow euroleague, its really entertaining seeing content on players that aren't talked about as much.

  • @thebig12conference73
    @thebig12conference73 8 дней назад +3

    Fred Weis was a nice player. He just got clowned on because of one play and I would argue that there’s no shame in being dunked on by Vince Carter.
    Vince Carter was one of the best dunkers the game has ever seen. You can say Vince Carter, MJ, Dr. J and Dominique Wilkins were the greatest dunkers ever. Carter is in the Mount Rushmore of slam dunks.

  • @Hermour556
    @Hermour556 10 дней назад +2

    Aleksandar Cubrilo was one of the best European talents, he played some good years with Partizan, but injuries ended his career.

  • @GarkKahn
    @GarkKahn 10 дней назад +7

    Wow i signed most of these playing nba live, cabarkapa became a consistent 6th man of the year 😂
    Good old days

  • @SuperMario-zt7fl
    @SuperMario-zt7fl 10 дней назад +10

    Jake tsakalidis lied about his age and his name.
    His real name was tsakalov and was five years older when he started basketball at Aek( he was 22, not 17)

    • @Vassilis254
      @Vassilis254 10 дней назад +5

      Wrong about his name, his real was Alexey Ledkov 😉

    • @SuperMario-zt7fl
      @SuperMario-zt7fl 10 дней назад +2

      @Vassilis254 ναι έχεις δίκιο
      Αυτό ήταν το ονοματεπώνυμο του

    • @ΚώσταςΠαππάς-φ7ζ
      @ΚώσταςΠαππάς-φ7ζ 9 дней назад +2

      @@Vassilis254 νομίζω πάντως πως ήταν 3 χρόνια μεγαλύτερος απ' οσο έλεγε και όχι 5. Θρυλική εμμονή του Ιωαννίδη να κατέβουμε με ''ηγέτη'' τον Τσακαλίδη στο Ευρωμπάσκετ της Σουηδίας το 2003 που το πληρώσαμε βεβαίως. Η Ελλάδα τότε ήταν καλή και μπορούσε να πάει καλύτερα, ο Τσακαλίδης τραγικός στα περισσότερα παιχνίδια.
      Και όσο έβλεπε οτι δεν τραβούσε, τόσο επέμενε σε αυτόν ο Ιωαννίδης

    • @SuperMario-zt7fl
      @SuperMario-zt7fl 8 дней назад +3

      @@ΚώσταςΠαππάς-φ7ζ όταν ήταν στην προετοιμασία, ο Ιωαννίδης τον διαφήμιζε λες και ήταν ο Σακίλ Ο' νιλ και όταν έφτασε η ώρα του Ευρωμπάσκετ ήταν τραγικός,όλοι οι αντίπαλοι σέντερ έκαναν πάρτι με αυτόν στην ρακέτα, ειδικά ο Οκουρ.
      Γενικά ήταν ένας βαρύς δυσκίνητος σέντερ που δεν ήξερε πώς να χρησιμοποιήσει τον όγκο του

    • @ΚώσταςΠαππάς-φ7ζ
      @ΚώσταςΠαππάς-φ7ζ 8 дней назад

      @@SuperMario-zt7fl Θυμάμαι χαρακτηριστικά την φράση που είχε πει τότε ο Ιωαννίδης για την εθνική του 2003:
      ''ουδείς αναντικατάστατος εκτός του Τσακαλίδη''

  • @giotsas
    @giotsas 10 дней назад +5

    Tsakalidis never had hype in Greece and I don't remember him ever being considered particularly mobile or talented. He was just very tall at 2.18 and young, but that was it and everyone knew it. I don't think he was drafted in the NBA as a promising prospect, just as a bench player who could give breaths.

    • @ΚώσταςΠαππάς-φ7ζ
      @ΚώσταςΠαππάς-φ7ζ 9 дней назад +1

      Κάνεις λάθος.
      Ο Τσακαλίδης είχε φοβερή προώθηση στις αρχές του 2000 και μάλιστα τον ανέφεραν συχνά οι εφημερίδες ως τον καλύτερο παίκτη της εθνικής παρόλο που οι Φώτσης και Ντικούδης έβγαζαν μάτια εκείνη την περίοδο στα παιχνίδια και έπαιζαν πολύ καλύτερα από αυτόν.
      Εν τέλει ο Τσακαλίδης δεν ήταν κακός παίκτης απλά υπερτιμημένος εδώ στην Ελλάδα. Επίσης πλήρωσε το γεγονός οτι ήταν σέντερ δεινόσαυρος παλιάς κοπής σε μια εποχή που το μπάσκετ είχε ήδη αρχίσει σιγά σιγά να αλλάζει

    • @aftastosk6016
      @aftastosk6016 8 дней назад

      @@ΚώσταςΠαππάς-φ7ζ είχε φοβερό μανατζαρέικο σπρώξιμο και από τον Ιωαννίδη φυσικά. Αν σκεφτούμε τι ταλέντο υπήρχε τότε στην Ελλάδα, ήταν τελείως για γέλια. Ζεβροσένκο Ζουρμπένκο και Λενκώφ πως τον λέγανε στην πραγματικότητα είχαμε γεμίσει "ταλέντα" από την ανατολική ευρώπη μέχρι να μας έρθει η νέα φουρνιά των αφρικανών για να γίνουν τα νέα ντάρλινγκς των μίντια

  • @mixim2492
    @mixim2492 9 дней назад +4

    Milos Vujanic was beast before injuries

  • @PureFact
    @PureFact 10 дней назад +24

    6'9" isn't 211 cm

    • @BasketNews_com
      @BasketNews_com  10 дней назад +4

      Yeah, that's a typo 🥴

    • @minutmed33
      @minutmed33 8 дней назад

      @@BasketNews_com For Moiso too: 2,08m is 6'10, cause 6'8 is 2,03m. And yeah 2,11m is 6'11 and 6'9 is 2,06m... Conversion is confusing sometimes 🤓

    • @hartmannalanj
      @hartmannalanj 7 дней назад

      Correct, but 211 cm is 6.9 feet. So, I can see how an error could be made.

    • @makisaggelidis7743
      @makisaggelidis7743 5 дней назад +1

      @@hartmannalanj 211cm is 6.11 feet.

    • @hartmannalanj
      @hartmannalanj 4 дня назад

      @@makisaggelidis7743 No, it's not.

  • @BBallRambling
    @BBallRambling 10 дней назад +5

    7:45 That play right there is just silly

  • @greberpl8235
    @greberpl8235 10 дней назад +15

    where is maciej lampe

    • @radovanprstojevic1060
      @radovanprstojevic1060 10 дней назад +3

      Lampe had a decent career in Europe!

    • @greberpl8235
      @greberpl8235 10 дней назад +1

      @radovanprstojevic1060 still his nba downfall is generational

  • @ottomaddoxx5360
    @ottomaddoxx5360 10 дней назад +1

    This wouldn't be a disappointment, but I remember that the Sonics drafted a 211 guy in 2002 in the 2nd round. The guy's name was Peter Fehse. I wouldn't say he was a disappointment, because nothing was ever expected of him. It was just a long shot with a 2nd round pick that had no guaranteed contract.

  • @vassilisxerikos3908
    @vassilisxerikos3908 8 дней назад +1

    Surprised to see Tsakalidis appearing. Largely forgotten outside Greece.

  • @luther1546
    @luther1546 10 дней назад +9

    Man, Sabonis was so slick, even old and beat up. He would absolutely dominate in today's NBA.

  • @milanlukic1063
    @milanlukic1063 10 дней назад +4

    Dragan Labovic,Nemanja Aleksandrov,Josip Sesar,Marko Tomas,Andrea Bargnani,Gentile,Areola...

  • @MontyESA
    @MontyESA 10 дней назад +2

    Well, Weiss is a special case. They already did him bad in the media before the Olympics. That dunk was a historic moment, with him on the losing side. Extremely unlucky for him, beiing in the wrong place at the wrong time.

  • @petr79
    @petr79 9 дней назад +1

    Vasilis Spanoulis and Antonis Fotsis had unremarkable NBA carreers, despite the fact that they beat the top NBA players in 2006

  • @stizostedion1221
    @stizostedion1221 10 дней назад +1

    Some other french -Some, even if they are not exactly flops, never became what their potential suggested (some were not drafted) : Johan Petro, Julien Doreau (first team eurobasket U16), Paccelis Morlende (first team eurobasket U16), Alexis Ajinça, Killian Tille (MVP eurobasket U16), Alain Digbeu, Rudy Bourgarel (Rudy Gobert's father)...
    -About Moïso, he was considered the biggest prospect in the history of French basketball before Wembanyama. -I would say that some people fail because they think to much that they are the best, but for him it seemed to me to be the opposite.

  • @nicolasgrivel5105
    @nicolasgrivel5105 10 дней назад +1

    Some of them, once their career over, just got back to normal life... Frederic Weis even participated to a tv game and the animator didn't recognize him !

  • @thebig12conference73
    @thebig12conference73 8 дней назад +1

    Fred Weis was a nice player. He just got clowned on because of one plate and I would argue that there’s no shame in being dunked on by Vince Carter Vince Carter was one of the best dunkers the game has ever seen

  • @jorgecobelo
    @jorgecobelo 9 дней назад +1

    Some of those guys ended up playing in Bilbao.

  • @aleksandarbralovic6962
    @aleksandarbralovic6962 10 дней назад +7

    Nemanja Aleksandrov

  • @BM85s
    @BM85s 10 дней назад +2

    just about croatians Stojic, Kalamiza, Pasalic Delas Mazalin, Bender, zubcic Bagaric Zizic

  • @BritishSteel87
    @BritishSteel87 7 дней назад +1

    Raül Lopez was an injury guy too

  • @VangelisKontogeorgakos
    @VangelisKontogeorgakos 10 дней назад +4

    I don't think that Tsakalidis career was a flop as he was never considered the next big think for the NBA. He managed to play for 8 season in the NBA, being a decent role player, and that is a huge accomplishment for any basketball player.

  • @mattjones6323
    @mattjones6323 10 дней назад +1

    That thumbnail crazy

  • @alawaysmanu8616
    @alawaysmanu8616 8 дней назад +2

    you deserve more views and hype

  • @johnf6787
    @johnf6787 10 дней назад +1

    From Greece, Tapoutos Christos.
    When he was young , "next Toni Kukoc"

    • @ΚώσταςΠαππάς-φ7ζ
      @ΚώσταςΠαππάς-φ7ζ 9 дней назад

      επίσης ο Διαμαντόπουλος κονταροχτυπιέται με τον Ταπούτο για το ποιος είναι το μεγαλύτερο χαμένο ταλέντο στην Ελλάδα.
      Οι λίστες που αναφέρει ο τύπος στο βίντεο δεν είναι λάθος αλλά κρύβουν μια μεγάλη παγίδα και εξηγώ.
      Αρκετοί από τους παίκτες που αναφέρει ακόμα και αν δεν έπιασαν το ταβάνι τους πρόλαβαν να γίνουν γνωστοί στην Ευρώπη ώστε να θεωρηθούν μετά εκ των υστέρων ως αποτυχίες.
      Αντίθετα μερικοί από τους πραγματικά underachievers (μέσα σε αυτούς ο Ταπούτος, ο Διαμαντόπουλος αλλά και αρκετοί ξένοι παίκτες) παρέμειναν τόσο άγνωστοι στο ευρύ κοινό της Ευρώπης με αποτέλεσμα να τους προσπερνούν οταν αναφέρουν τις λίστες με τα μεγάλα χαμένα ταλέντα.
      Πχ. ο τύπος στο βίντεο αναφέρει ως χαμένο ταλέντο τον Μπετσίροβιτς. Δεν συμφωνώ.
      Ο Μπετσίροβιτς μπορεί να μην έπιασα το ταβάνι του αλλά δεν καμία περίπτωση δεν πρέπει να θεωρείται ως χαμένο ταλέντο έχοντας καταφέρει πολλές διακρίσεις σε ατομικό και σε ομαδικό επίπεδο.
      Υπάρχουν και άλλες αντίστοιχες περιπτώσεις σαν αυτή του Μπετσίροβιτς εδώ στην Ελλάδα. Η πρώτη περίπτωση που μου έρχεται στο μυαλό είναι ο Ρεντζιάς.
      Εξίσου εύκολος στόχος λόγω της παγίδας που ανέφερα παραπάνω. Σε καμία περίπτωση δεν θεωρώ τον Ρεντζιά ως χαμένο ταλέντο ακόμα και αν δεν έπιασε το ταβάνι του.
      Ένας τύπος παρακάτω στα σχόλια ανέφερε τον Φώτση. Αυτός και αν πρέπει να βρίσκεται κανονικά εκτός λίστας. Ο άνθρωπος είναι από τα καλύτερα 4αρια των ευρωπαικών γηπέδων.
      Κατάλαβες τώρα τι γίνεται με αυτές τις λίστες; Επειδή ο Φώτσης έφτασε στο 80% των πραγματικών δυνατοτήτων του θεωρείται ως χαμένο ταλέντο ή underachiever!!! Τώρα καταλαβαίνεις την παγίδα;

  • @Pro13Sab
    @Pro13Sab 10 дней назад +2

    Becirovic had a very decent European career, why would you mention him on a list with flops????!!!!!

  • @KITT5
    @KITT5 10 дней назад +4

    Maciej Lampe

    • @George-ug8yh
      @George-ug8yh 10 дней назад

      He played in Barca with good seasons

  • @A.Wojnarowski
    @A.Wojnarowski 7 дней назад +1

    It's the build up hype for disappointment. Americans likes to hype teen stars. In Europe, being a teen star means nothing. Lukas and Paus are rare. Usually teen stars dominate other teens cause they are physically more mature than other kids. As soon as the other kids get their man body, the table is leveled. You need to spot the skill level and mental toughness from the young guys, to see their potential. It's easier to lif weights than rise your IQ or learn new skills.

  • @karolmaciejewski340
    @karolmaciejewski340 21 час назад

    U should mention Maciej Lampe forward from Poland drafted in the first round.

  • @MuswellMunky
    @MuswellMunky 10 дней назад +3

    Jiri Zidek

  • @jonpeley
    @jonpeley 10 дней назад +1

    Nikoloz "Skita" played for the team I support (you can see some images here) and he was horrible. Soft as hell and couldn't defend. For a second edition you could bring another NBA bust who also played for us and also was pretty bad: The russian Yaroslav Korolev.

  • @armin38822
    @armin38822 10 дней назад +3

    Sani Bečirović has no place here.

  • @dusanmilenkovic6294
    @dusanmilenkovic6294 8 дней назад +1

    Mikica has a ring 🤫

  • @GreekSneakCollector
    @GreekSneakCollector 10 дней назад +1

    Duenas was another hit prospect but ...

    • @jonpeley
      @jonpeley 9 дней назад

      He was drafted but never went to the NBA. The same happened to Fran Vázquez.

  • @axelbordinat4429
    @axelbordinat4429 10 дней назад +1

    That miniature …

  • @HBCOU
    @HBCOU 10 дней назад +1

    What's with the centimeters and meters crap?

  • @martinreda2720
    @martinreda2720 5 дней назад +1

    Cezary Trybanski Polish Center

  • @kumamonkumamoto3844
    @kumamonkumamoto3844 10 дней назад +4

    Peter Fehse

    • @ottomaddoxx5360
      @ottomaddoxx5360 10 дней назад

      I mentioned his name, because I was following the Sonics at the time, but from the US perspective, there was never really anything expected of him, so he doesn't seem like a disappointment. It was even hard at the time to find any information about what he was doing from Seattle.
      Not even sure he ever even came to Seattle.

  • @mbengaful
    @mbengaful 10 дней назад +1

    Tomislav Zubčić, Kosta Perovic

  • @yanncarduner4516
    @yanncarduner4516 9 дней назад +1

    Excellent job yes Jerome Moiso was very lazy .I even asked myself if he truly loved basketball.Fred Weis was underwhelming because his upper body was not that strong .Not the only reason he also seemed to lack motivation.But I recognise his Euro 2005 was good .Not a big fan of his role as a journalist for official games.He's too harsh at times in my humble opinion.

  • @coellnbrueder8879
    @coellnbrueder8879 10 дней назад +1

    6´9" are 205cm, not 211cm - kinda embarrassing running a basketball channel and not even being able to calculate metrics to inches.

  • @Laimonas56
    @Laimonas56 10 дней назад +1

    Sorry i really like this chanel but moest mesurments in feets and inches are wrong

  • @piergiorgiocorno5766
    @piergiorgiocorno5766 7 дней назад +1

    johan petro

  • @mattjones6323
    @mattjones6323 10 дней назад +1

    Wow instead of artest in ny

  • @Sergeipalto
    @Sergeipalto 5 дней назад +1

    Dragan Bender

  • @CharitoAbi-Abi
    @CharitoAbi-Abi 9 дней назад +1

    You forgot about Viktor Khryapa

  • @karlisvanags4212
    @karlisvanags4212 10 дней назад +1

    Kenan Sipahi

  • @frvrmax
    @frvrmax 10 дней назад +3

    It is crazy but I know ALL these names 😭😭😭

  • @viktorbrb_0o397
    @viktorbrb_0o397 10 дней назад +2

    21st draft pick Pavel Podkolzin

  • @AnthonyNorthcott
    @AnthonyNorthcott 4 дня назад

    211 cm is not 6 ft 9. Correct facts be good ? 6 ft 11 ( 211 cm )

  • @tardiolinho
    @tardiolinho 8 дней назад +1

    andrea bargnani

  • @zadvegodine2201
    @zadvegodine2201 21 час назад

    First star of Tau Ceramica Maciyauskas...
    Nothing in nba
    Nothing i Olimpijakos..

  • @fanestefan2212
    @fanestefan2212 4 дня назад

    Vlad Moldoveanu

  • @mbengaful
    @mbengaful 10 дней назад +1

    Antonis Fotsis, to an extent

    • @ΚώσταςΠαππάς-φ7ζ
      @ΚώσταςΠαππάς-φ7ζ 9 дней назад +1

      ούτε καν
      ο Φώτσης είναι από τα καλύτερα 4αρια των ευρωπαικών γηπέδων.

  • @al-nur999
    @al-nur999 10 дней назад +1

    Mario Hejonza...

  • @vasiliszaxaropoulos8726
    @vasiliszaxaropoulos8726 10 дней назад +1

    👏👏👏👏👏

  • @MrCHAIRMANOFTHEBORED
    @MrCHAIRMANOFTHEBORED 6 дней назад

    Where is a story about the Russian Pavel Podkolzin?

  • @page6413
    @page6413 10 дней назад +1

    Stupid clip. Overall no content for anybody.

  • @otislamar8613
    @otislamar8613 10 дней назад +2

    Is embiid European. Cause he’s never worked out. Individually he’s accomplished something’s but you don’t play to win mvp you play to win and he’s never made the finals or conference finals. I feel like that’s a major disappointment/failure.

    • @j.madsus
      @j.madsus 10 дней назад +1

      Embiid is from Cameroon

    • @jorisoims3085
      @jorisoims3085 10 дней назад +5

      Embid id from Cameroon and calling a multiple time All star and Nba MVP a disapointement is wrong on so many level. Ihate Embid the human and the leader but he is a great Basket ball player.

    • @airidas8379
      @airidas8379 10 дней назад +4

      He is an all NBA level player. He is far far farrrr from a failure.

    • @radovanprstojevic1060
      @radovanprstojevic1060 10 дней назад +1

      Stop it!

  • @ИВАНКАРАМАЗОВ-щ6к
    @ИВАНКАРАМАЗОВ-щ6к 8 дней назад +1

    V L A D I M I R R A D M A N O V I Ć !!!

  • @milenkonovakovic855
    @milenkonovakovic855 7 дней назад +1

    Nemanja Aleksandrov