How does a modern Pentium 4 perform in 2023? Well...
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- Hello everyone, welcome back! I never owned a Pentium 4 powered PC, so after spending £7/$9 I got my hands on one of the very last models, the Pentium 4 651.
#gaming #pentium4 #intel
0:00 Intro
0:58 P4 651 Specs
1:35 ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA
1:35 Test Bench & The Setup
1:46 Productivity Benchmarks - Cinebench R23
2:00 Let's insert a random E5700 into the mix!
2:09 Pentium 4 overclock to 5GHz?
2:30 WARNING - FLICKERING LIGHTS!
2:49 1080p RUclips playback ?
3:10 Cinebench R23
3:33 7-ZIP Bench
3:48 Blender 3.4 - Car Demo
4:05 Handbrake - 10GB 2160p video file to Fast 1080p30
4:30 F1 2018
4:54 DeusEx: Mankind
5:16 Dirt Rally
5:40 Half Life 2
6:11 Fallout 3
6:42 Battlefield: Bad Company 2
7:03 STALKER - Shadow of Chernobyl
7:28 Conclusion
Music used:
In the Atmosphere - Bad Snacks
Broken - Patrick Patrikios
Drifting at 432 Hz - Unicorn Heads 
Игры
Pentium 4 probably isn't the best CPU for gaming, but it is one of the oldest CPUs that can run Windows 10 due to the available instruction sets. It's still good enough for light office work, and you could probably browse the Internet on it if you only keep one tab open... used to be the Internet was a "light" thing, but nowadays modern web pages have so much bloated JS code thanks to the messy frameworks they use that they can be more demanding than 3D games in some ways.
A 651 is fine for a basic Windows 10 PC. Sure, it will run like the cheapest netbook but it will run. some people still have smartphones that are weaker than a P4 651, even if they have 4 or 6 cores.
Never in my life did I think I would see a Pentium 4 paired with a 3080
I'm surprised the board detected the 3080 tbh.
Well, there's certainly a first time for everything hahah! Thanks for checking out the video :)
me too! I've had trouble running 3000 series before using ASUS P5E
@@LawrenceTimme I mean theoretically PCIe is designed to be completely backwards compatible no matter what generation though the speeds are wildly different.
PCIe Gen1 x16 has a max speed of 4GB/s while the PCIe Gen4 x16 that the 3080 was designed for has a max speed of 32GB/s.
Be prepared to see a X850XT-PE paired up with a Ryzen 9 7950X3D next
Funny video but Netburst absolutely did not "pave the way" for Core 2 and on, it was so horrible they had to go back to the Pentium 3 with Pentium M and then proceed from there. Netburst was a dead end, relying on the promise of a process technology which was not remotely possible at the time (they really thought 10 GHz was gonna happen)
Basically this! With the extremely long pipeline and resulting branch prediction miss performance hits, the Netburst architecture was dead in the water. The only reason intel seemed to have gone this route is due to MHz/Ghz being the selling point at the time and they had been losing that race to AMD in the late P3 era.
Intel's name and marketing strategy "Real GHz for real performance" (or something in that ballpark) together with the "Netburst" name were clearly aimed at marketing for the poorly informed consumer and obviously worked its magic.
I had a pentium 661 overclocked to 5ghz stable on diy liquid cooling setup with a fridge evaporator as radiator, swap cooler pump & a water block made out of pure junk.
On a g41 motherboard with ddr3 1033mhz. It was fast & a room heater. I later replaced the cpu with q6600 & ran that at 4.3ghz!.
Love to hear! How crazy DDR3 would run with this, hah! Intel might have to answer for that! :)
My 1st PC had a 2.4ghz Pentium 4, played hundreds of hrs of Runescape with it. Good times...
Was also the 1st PC I tinkered with by upgrading the 256mb ram with a 512mb stick.
Those were the days haha! Thanks for sharing :)
I had a 1st gen 1.6 that I overclocked to 2.4GHz. It actually performed the same as a Northwood 2.4 because, until they did the 64 bit extension, they were basically all the same core, with different clockspeeds based on binning. Technically, the Northwood CPUs had more cache but it wasn't something that made a huge difference in gaming at the time because of how the games were written and a history of de-emphasizing cache in the programming because otherwise games in the '90s would have not run on many systems. These days, though, CPU cache is king.
I remember upgrading from a celeron to a used P4 with HT and the performance boost at the time was insane. And then again when I went for another used core 2 duo. I remember there was some kind of bios wonkyness and the P4 ran so hot I had to pack the case with frozen peas from my mums freezer in order to boot, install Windows and then update the bios.
celereon was ALWAYS useless trash even back in the nineties
2:03 bro casually showing off his rocks (minerals)
ITS NOT ROCKS, ITS MINERALS
@@BigOuterHeaven I'm so sorry for the fatal mistake i've made here
@@Koopai386 lmao
What’s really nuts is how the old Gulftown i7 990x, which landed in 2010, was 22+ times faster than the P4. I have a 980x box (running at 4.13GHz) that I built in 2010, and my kids are still using it almost 14 years later. Northwood and Prescott P4’s were almost instantly obsolete once chip-multiprocessing showed up. Even a stock Core 2 Quad 9650 on the same LGA775 socket is 8x faster in Cinebench R23.
Of course, part of the problem was the awful marchitecture of the P4 netburst core (with its terrible IPC and significant issues with pipeline bubbles). SMT on the P4 actually serves a different purpose than it does on modern CPU cores. In the P4, SMT was used as a strategy to permit decode and issuance of multiple uOp streams to allow multiplexing of execution unit usage and prevent pipeline bubbles in the P4’s deeply pipelined units (by primarily increasing inflight instruction execution in the pipeline with reduced data dependencies, preventing bubbles and flushes). In modern CPU cores, SMT still serves that purpose, but its primary use is as a strategy to increase saturation of the multiple execution unit resources within the core (as modern cores are very wide).
Anyway, the P4 sucked, but LGA775 was the AM4 of its day, so if you bought a terrible P4 on LGA775, a lot of future stuff on that platform was pretty excellent.
your effort is highly appreciated. our family PC was on a Pentium 4 until 2012, and the uplift going to an i7-2600 felt like cheating
Thank you, glad to hear you enjoyed the video. I've never owned one hence the reason to test it, I'm sure Sandy Bridge must felt like space ship haha!
always nice to see just how far hardware has come.. reminds me of my 1ghz pentium 3 laptop, a beast as long as you run period appropriate games.
I got a 1GHz Micro ATX desktop PIII and also a Katmai P III @600MHz with a 440BX. The 1GHz Coppermine has a Intel 810 unfortunately.
Next, please do an AMD Athlon XP, 64, and X2. That would be a very interesting comparison.
Great vid, thanks for sharing. I owned a Prescott 2.8 ghz. Damn good and stable cpu ;)
Good video. You got a golden sample P4 651 chip. The limit for most of them was around 4.25ghz.
Yeah, seems right, I couldn't get mine to go past 4.2ghz, he definitely got a good one, though that board probably helped with that too.
@@robloxian1585the motherboard does help a bit but not a lot. You literally have to have a good cpu. For example, i've got X5690 xeon from alliexpress stated as " better silicon " and it actually is. Feeding a whoping 1.425V into the core i have it clocked from 3.73GHz to 4.8GHz. I know that that this is absolute overkill in terms of voltages but those older architecture must to have such a high voltage to obtain such a high clocks. But don't worry, i have one 120mm all copper radiator cooling it not exceeding 53c under max load in Y-cruncher. The liquid metal and high flow rate pump help a lot.
You Sir are a very patient man. My first was P4 was the socket 478 3.0ghz Nothwood (800 fsb) ATI 9600XT, 1 gig of ram. I'm a little hazy on the Intel chipset.. But was Intel's best Motherboard at the time? (P series 965?) Saw the working system years later to upgrade it with 4 gigs of ram and a Windows 7 to 10 upgrade. (Still running as far as I know?) Thank you for putting this comparison performance review together.. (I enjoyed it) Cheers!
Used to have socket 775 back in 2009, changed few CPUs...Core2Quad at the end. ;-)
I was planning on upgrading the RAM and graphics on my pentium 4 system to see how it would perform today. I'm glad that I watched this video and didn’t try upgrading it. Thank you for the amazing and extensive analysis.
You say it paved the way for the Core architecture but it's actually the opposite. The Core architecture was based around the Dothan mobile architecture which was linked heavily to the older style P6 Architecture that Pentium 3's were based on. Core had a lot more in common with P6 than Netburst.
Indeed, Netburst has no real successors to this day. In retrospect, the inner concepts behind the architecture were flawed from the start. The only things ported to the Core architecture were mostly features like HyperThreading, 64 bit, SSE2 and SSE3. The inner architecture was scraped entirely (a bit like what AMD did between the last revision of Bulldozer and Zen 1)
Whats more convenient to overclock? 651 D0 stepping or 661 C1 stepping? Thanks
I know this won’t make a big difference, but I’d be interested to see this CPU running Windows 7 or Windows 10 with disabled Spectre and Meltdown patches, along with an AMD GPU. Anyways, it’s nice to see that a chip this old can run some modern apps.
They run better on Windows 7 or xp for sure
i used to run it with windows 7, it runs smoothl
I was still using a Pentium 4 HT 3.0GHz (PGA478 Prescott) in my main PC until late 2012. Sadly I was stuck with an integrated Intel Extreme Graphics 2 which was just barely able to ran the games I played. Years later I moved the CPU to a different motherboard with an AGP slot and with a decent card (in this case Radeon 9800 Pro) it can run the games I used to play really well
Nice one, wowers! Thanks for sharing! I'm on a lookout for an AGP card for upcoming video...not an easy task hah!
i have this in my "retro " PC runing win XP :) is working like a charm :) feeding my nostalgia for older games :) and the fact that back in 2006 i was runing on an AMD Sempron 3000+ single core 1.8GHz and dreaming on this pentium cip ..
Hey, I had that same chip at the time! Together with a Radeon HD 9250 that I added after the fact that Linux didn't really love.
I'm sure this would churn trough older games without a hitch :) Thanks for sharing mate
wonder what ab extreme edition with 4 threads would do
Had a Medion MD8386 (P4 640), no overclocking, but I did use a tool called CPU RMclock to make the EIST more aggressive in moving up, as I found that it was too happy to sit at 2.8GHZ without boosting if only 1 thread was loaded.... I think Windows XP did fix it later, so that single thread loading would kick it to the full 3.2GHz
My first PC that I built myself and wasn’t a prebuilt bought by my parents used a Pentium 4 while my friend went with Athlon XP. I had a 2.8ghz P4B overclocked to 3.25ghz. It felt very fast at the time. It was single core and no HT as Hyper Threading came later. However it got severely beaten by the Athlon 64 that came out later.
Thanks for sharing mate :) I remember seeing Toshiba laptop in a magazine that had a P4 in it, I stared at it for a loooong time! hah! I'd love to test older AMD's too, only ever had one, the XP 2600+
@@nexus_tech The Athlon XP was very good for the price. My friend got the Barton 2500+ if I remember correctly which was much cheaper than my P4 and did very well for the price. Especially since it ran at just 1833mhz.
i love those Maximus boards!
Maybe if you increased the PLL, NB and (i think) Termination Voltage, you may be able to get it closer to 5 GHz. not guraranteed, but it did help on my Maximus II Formula board.
How enable virtualisation in Intel Pentium 4
P-IV, 775 motherboard with AGP, great retro gaming platform.
OMG. I always wondered what it would be like to try. I have several of these systems on hand. But, if the benchmark is going to take an hour, it may not be worth it LOL.
Lenovo P516 was my first PC in 2006. Almost two decades passed by....
I had a SKT478 P4. I upgraded from a Celeron to a Celeron D to a P4 at 3.0GHz 800FSB and H/T. It was paired with an MSI 7600GS (AGP 8X) on an ASUS with a SiS chipset.
Wowers! Nice one, thanks for sharing, must felt unreal to go from Celeron to HT enabled P4!
Look at that motherboard. I miss that old school look so much..
I had 3 P4 systems back then. A 1,5 Ghz one, a 1,9Ghz one and a 3,00 Ghz with 800Mhz FSB paired with a ATI Radeon 9800 pro and 1GB Corsair Twinx DDR 400 CL 2, the RAM-Kit alone was around 320 €
Im old enough, to have been lucky enough to experience windows 95 and 98 but a Pentium 4 on an old Compaq Deskpro, and later EVO with windows XP fueled my childhood. So grateful to have grown alongside the tech instead of right into it.
My first P4 was 1.6GHz Willamette with 256MB of SDRAM, 2001 made Compaq branded. Got it at work in 2005, after Celeron 600 it was big deal.
Used it until late 2007 when I received 2.4 GHz Northwood with 512MB DDR1 memory. It was noticeably faster but not than much.
In early 2008 I received Core 2 Duo E4500 as replacement, and that was big step ahead.
In early 2005 one of my customers bought 3 GHz S775 Pentium 4 with 1GB of RAM. It was quite fast machine until 2008, and started feel slow in 2010.
My parents used s478 P4 3.2 with 2GB of RAM until late 2012 - it was mainly OK for offline videos and textual web browsing but struggled to play online videos in the end.
So my general conclusion is, P4s were adequate CPUs for their time. Fully upgraded 2.8+ GHz Pentium 4 with 2+ GB of RAM could be used as gaming machine until 2008 and was adequate for most office tasks until 2013. Comparing to Pentium 3 (which was limited to 0.5-1GB of slow SDRAM and had no SATA ports) it aged much better.
Good video!
I have a Pentium 4 3.4 Ghz (socket 478) with Asus P4P800 motherboard, 2 Gb DDR400 and Radeon HD4650 AGP graphic card. Operating system is Windows 8.1.This PC is still quite usable for basic tasks, but it's slow and really hot! On RUclips it is capable of playing videos with a resolution up to 480p in full screen.
To stream 720/1080p, get the h264ify or enhanced-h264ify extension for your browser. Check the extension settings to disable AV1 and VP9 codecs.
That forces RUclips to send h.264 AVC codec video that your HD4650 can decode in its hardware.
Why this works: YT still supports h.264, because Apple products don't support VP9. So you can use this to your advantage.
@@TaskForce-nr7sd I tried this extension (h264ify) in Microsoft Edge v.109 and it works very well!
Now this old PC is capable of streaming in H.264 up to 1080p (@25-30fps) with low CPU usage (30-40%), but only if you install older versions (prior to 10.6) of AMD Catalyst graphic drivers.
Currently i have version 10.4 (Hotfix AGP) installed.
Thanks for this advice!😁
Sure do own one! I use it for LAN Parties to this day! Popped a SSD in it.
Awesome seeing this, I bought a Pentium 4 651 for £7 on eBay a few weeks ago, and tried overclocking it too!
I managed 4.42GHz at 1.36v on a cheap GA-P35-DS3. I couldn't get any more out of it.
I removed an E6750 from the board to install the Pentium 4! Lol
I still use a Pentium 4 HT (3.0GHz) with 2x 512MB (400MHz) once per week for 1 hour. I use it as backup server, since June 2019. It is based on the remains of a 2003 HP d530 SFF and I have added 2x IDE 3.5" (250 + 320GB) and 2x SATA 2.5" (320 + 320GB) in total 1.21TB. It is now inside an old Compaq Evo Tower with a Win 98SE activation sticker. The transfer speed for the backup is ~30MB/s (240Mbps of 1Gbps) limited by one CPU thread running above 90%. The backup takes ~1 hour. This 21 years OLD PC runs a 3 month NEW OS; FreeBSD 14.0 on OpenZFS 2.2.0, all storage is lz4 compressed (ratio ~1.8).
Note that sender and receiver are lz compressed, so no re-compression is needed. The compressed records are transferred and stored as-is.
Pentium 4 and XP for the entire duration of XP's lifespan from 2001 to 2014. First was 1.6 willamette dell system, then a 3.0 MSI prescott. Both systems did web browsing and video editing. I was cash strapped at the time as I had things to save up for so I ended up recycling components from the dell into the MSI system. When that was put out to pasture in 2014, the hard drive, video card, and sound card were all 12 years old and still somehow fully functional.
You have to put it in its proper perspective. You literally have a nearly 20 year old CPU capable of running a modern 64 bit OS. That is incredible.
I would be curious, how it performs honkai star rail on that processor, as that game isnt that cpu intensive like everything other modern games on the planet with the exception of some indie games!
Havent found a benchmark so i would suggest to test that game out, should be really suprising results!
Or some ps1 emulation. i dont mind because i love benchmark
I had a P4 HT 540 Prescott s775 @ 3.2ghz a few years back after being with AthlonXP, then next had a core2quad q6600 2.4ghz(cant remember if used same mobo or a newer one!).
Ive now in the last few months purchased a Cedarmill P4 641, and also PentiumD Presler 925 @ 3ghz and 945 @ 3.4ghz (both with dual Cedarmill dies), plus bought again another core2quad q6600😂. Im sure i have a socket 775 system somewhere thats due an upgrade!
Pc's used over the years - P3-500, p3-700(free upgrade), p3-933(slocket converter), AMD Athlon thunderbird(poss 1.4ghz), AMD AthlonXP(poss 2800), p4-540(3.2ghz), core2quad q6600(2.4ghz), and now i7-950(3.06ghz tri-channel ram). I know im lagging behind a bit! Lol
I have one P IV HT 3.6 GHz, yes that is the stock clock, but the board have a Q8400 on it, I want to do some benchmarks
i have several p4s. one is a compaq laptop and the other 2 are desktop. 1 desktop is in use but just for retro stuff.
fun loved my new P4 in 2001 best match 9700pro! omg was nice.. before that ahtlon 650 with voodoo3 :D. now even my father passed away pff im not that old, brutal life
I'm amazed that this was the best Pentium 4! Insanely slow. I can't believe I used this stuff. I honestly thought it would have been faster as it seemed fast at the time.
Right ? It did not age well, look at C2D - some of those are "usable" even today :)
Nope, it was the Pentium 4 672 at 3.8Ghz or the Pentium 4 EE 3.73Ghz (with 1066 FSB). Not that it will make a lot of diference. But i think that the 672 would get to 5Ghz easier.
my mom used a pentium 4 dell desktop until about 2016 when she got a chrome book lol. i still remember staying up till midnight playing halo combat evolved and doom 95 on it
Just thought of something. Do you have a radeon handy to test? any radeon. it should perform a LOT better with a radeon than a geforce because geforce has a huge driver overhead that kills slow processors.
Hello mate! I happen to have few Radeon cards lying about. Might be topic for a whole video :)
Having a 3080 or something like that is a bad idea due to driver overhead.
I have all Pentium 4 generations here, starting with a Willamette system at 1.8 GHz with 423, two PCs with 478 Northwoods with 533 and 800 MHz HT CPUs as well as a Dell PC with 775 Pentium 4 560.
an intresting video would b pentium ee with 2/4 cores vs an athlon x2 vs core2duo , i know the athlon and core2duo both beat the pentium back in the day when everything scaled 1 or 2 threads but them days is over ,
please do a video pitting this Pentium 4 vs the fastest power mac g5 system I want to see how they compared
I have a P4HT 640 in storage atm with 2GB of ddr 2-667, g31 mobo, and a 7200gs. When I pulled it out to test it the PSU was sadly busted. I may have to resort to a "Fire Hazard" PSU that comes free with cheap cases for the 5v old ATX spec... 😅😅😅
you should get more performance from the rx 580 because the drivers sre much lighter on the cpu or a much older nvidia card that lighter drivers
My friend used to have a P4 at 2.66GHz back in the day lol.
Oh nice, Celeron was terribly slow, I bet that must have felt good! Solid tip with frozen peas, awesome! :)
The logo is still one of the GOATs
My e5700 did 4.5ghz on air cooling in cinebench 11.5 :) yours must have been a bad sample. I think certain stepping and batches are better than others.
What! No chance with the one I had, I've tried :)
Driver overhead and modern Windows really crippled that poor thing.
I agree, might have been a different story using XP and lower res :)
Older brothers first gaming pc was a pentium 4 i think at 3.4 ghz. Might have been a 600 series pentium 4, think it was 2 mb cache at least.
Initially 1.0 gb ram & a ati x1650 pro pci-e 512 mb.
Did play the pirated counter strike source really well at the time in 1600x1200 at 85 hz for lil 12 year old me.
Then later i think 1.5 gb or 2 gb before i got it around the end of 2007.
Lightning strike while we were on vacation killed the motherboard early 2008 (router still connected which also died.)
So i had no pc for a bit.
Then my mom decided too get rid of her desktop pc early 2009 as she went for a laptop instead too do things on.
Pentium dualcore e2160 at 1.6 ghz, 2 gb ddr2 ram, 500 gb sata hdd which I'm still using today actually.
And initially that pc had a weak 128 mb nvidia 7300 gs, but my older brother had a 8500 gt sitting around after upgrading too a hd 5750 at the time so i got that, then the 8500 gt died like 6 months later & a used hd 3650 512 mb found it's way to me so i got that too use still.
And If i had known about bsel tape mod overclocking, that cpu would have been running at 2.1 ghz for sure in that pc as soon as possible which would have helped a lot at the time.
Then around August 2010 i went for building my own pc.
With an Athlon II x3 445, gigabyte 870a ud3 rev 2.1, & a single 2 gb ram stick at 1333 mhz & the HD 3650 moved over from that old pc.
Already a huge lift in performance on that hd 3650 still, then i got another 2 gb stick too get 4 gb ram & now some newer stuff ran great.
Then came the Sapphire hd 5770 lite 1 gb around november or september 2010 which i still have sitting around.
It was less noisy then the hd 3650 was & had WAY more rendering power, like day & night difference.
Specially for the still in use CRT at 1600x1200.
The original fan on that card still is so quiet, no bad bearing noise or anything either despite it's age at this point.
And it was used in my dads pc after i upgraded the gpu too a hd 6870 for a few years so it has plenty of run time.
The hd 6870 out of the box had a cooler with bad heatpipes, just air so the cooler trapped heat instead of cooling the card properly.
So it was back too a noisy card which i wasn't very pleased with, like 2x 70mm fans screaming at like 3000 rpm with gpu temp at 97c was not fun.
Like even with a closed door i could hear it in the kitchen in the 4 room apartment.
Instead of sending the card back on an RMA.
After less then a week since i bought it i took off the shroud & zip tied 2x 120 mm fractal design 1000 rpm fans too it that ran at 100% fan speed off the powersupply.
Temps down at 87c but almost no noise.
Had that card until January 2015 when i bought a r9 280 from Asus (Direct cu II TOP)
Which lived for quite some time with a phenom II x6 1090t i picked up used 2 months after i bought the card march 2015, the phenom II x4 955 at 3.9 ghz had done well but i wanted some more oomph in cpu power so another 2 cores for like 50$ seemed like a good plan.
Then with a locked I5 2500 non k around January 2017 too August 2020 when it gave up on me, card slowly bent too death due too my lazyness in putting together the card about 1.5 years before. As i forgot a bracket that goes length wise with the card and just went eh, it should be ok.
Then in October 2020 after being on the old hd 5770 again i jumped at buying a gigabyte gtx 1660 super oc for 214 usd or 2335 sek, as an open box return which still ticks on in my pc with a ryzen 5600 since December 2022.
(I'm glad i picked up the 1660 super when i did as prices never recovered, it's still another 3 - 400 sek for a 1660 super.
And funnily enough the original fans started getting noisy bearings on the 1660 super so i did it again with a pair of 120mm fans zip tied too the card, it simply works great!
This time a pair of Arctic Cooling P12 PST 120mm fans & a phobya vga to pwm adapter. (Yes the company is spelled that way)
Picked the PST fans due too lazyness, i didn't want too bother soldering the splitter too have 2x pwm outlets or buy a pwm splitter & figured 1800 rpm should be more then enough oomph for cooling anyway.
Best thing to try is install gentoo, that way it will utilize all its power and take less space.
I was trying to find the most advanced P4 (i think). It's the Pentium 4 HT 661 SL9KD (D0). ~65wTDP and 3.6GHz
i got my first pc in 2006 and i had pentium 4 socket 775 , 512 ddr 2 @533 and 6600GT.
Started RSC on a pentium 2, upgraded to a 4 for rs2 😢
How does it perform compared to a Raspberry Pi 5
Pentium 4 machines are good for retro builds Windows 98SE and running some older games on and software or have Windows 2000. I used a Pentium 4 up until around 2012 running Linux maxed out but then I upgraded to a dual core 2 duo then shortly after an i5.
I'm sure it would churn trough many older games without a hitch :) Thanks for sharing :)
I finised HL 2 on this CPU + GeForce 210, not on max ofc, I reached 100fps stable.
I used the p4 untill 2011. (HT630) Then I found a pc on the street that people threw away, I fixex it and then I had a pentium e2200. Its mhz was way lower (2000 or 2200 mhz) but it was way faster.
Later I upgraded to a i7 2600k. Just amazing how fast that was in that time.. Later a i7 4790k. Then ryzen 1600, 3600, now on a 7700 ryzen.
Fun fact: In 2012 I played leuage of legens on a pentium 4 (3.3 gb ram) and the ATI 9800xt. it had a steady 40 fps on the lowest settings. Quite inpressed.
I think Pentium4 should still be able to do minor stuff like web browsing just fine, in fact couple of years ago i tested a 1GHZ Pentium3 and 512MB of RAM with both Win98 and XP, and i was able to load regular pages just fine with a Browser called K-Meleon, but RUclips prooved far too much to handle, since videos would lag a lot, but this could had been just of the old GeForce 5200FX choking with RUclips videos.
I actually began to like Windows Vista when I went from a Pentium 4 631 to Core 2 Duo E8400 the P4 is painfully slow and the c2d can run Windows 10 quite well if you have an SSD and a decent graphics card.
Some of these LGA775 pentium 4 could do 8ghz on Ln2
This cpu is final pentium 4.
Would love to see the results of an Athlon64.
Willamette has 1.9 and 2.0GHz versions too
How much is it worth today?
All they're good for is to make them electric warmers during Winter.
windows will definitely hold you back, use a really light weight linux distro instead and an AMD card for both FOS drivers that actually work and lower overhead.
just casually mentioning that you got it to 5 ghz threw me for a loop. a speed that modern cpus didnt reach stock until a few years ago on a cpu that old and weak is crazy
Heh! And that's nothing, some extreme LN2 OC can break 7GHz barrier!
I'm happy that Core 2 Duo is a much much much better XP machine anyways, and there's no reason to power one of these up. The only reason I could think of to have a P4 or older is if you have a sewing machine or cnc lathe or something weird plugged into it and you have to have XP, a parallel port, or something like that.
Pentium 4 is becoming popular as a platform for running Windows 98 retro gaming rigs. For later WinXP games it struggles. But with Win98 it flies. Pentium III is harder to get, prices are higher, and a P4 will outperform them. So, whilst not period correct, P4 is the most budget-friendly choice. I also have Athlon XP and Athlon 64. But Pentium 4 seems to have less compatibility issues compared to those.
as someone who still owns a pentium 4 (though it's been in storage for the last few years), i can safely say that there is no pentium 4 that does anything more than the most basic of tasks. i think it would full load at idle on windows 11
Generally, it was a lot better than I expected, for the most of basic tasks, like navigating, searching and browsing the web, anything more, NOPE haha!
P4 is great for Win98 gaming rigs. Or early WinXP gaming. But, yeah, for modern use, they are slow. On the other hand, I have a Core 2 Quad from 2008 and that still works surprisingly well for modern use.
Please do amd athlon with rtx 4090
Only this is working emulation. Bato era, retrobat or mame system. Try😊
I don't think I had a Pentium 4. Oldest CPU I had I think was a Pentium III & then moved on to an Intel Core 2 Quad.
I'm surprised it can even start the games wow
There is also no way for a P4 to play 1080p video. Your GPU is doing that heavy lifting.
This. GPU works on 4k with this cpu.
Yes, you can play 720p/1080p RUclips videos with a P4 only if you have a powerful graphic card installed.
For me 30 FPS is perfectly fine with me since I'm used to scratch which Is forced to run at 30 FPS without turbowarp
I had it on 4.8 Ghz
just think that was the most efficient pentium 4 imagine how many watts the prescott pentium 4s pulled on a single core lol
Heh, good point :) Thanks for checking out the video!
Pentium 4 is my favourite chip, I spent my childhood playing Rome and Medieval Total War on it. Piece of history honestly.
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Tankfully LGA775s can run C2Q, those are orders of magnitude faster then Cedar Mill P4s, LGA 775 was then what AM4 is today. Very upgradable platform with lots of performance for its time.
But i still think LGA775 was more relevant because smartphones did not exist back then, PC was the only option.
I use a pentium 4 630 and i play games on stock speed in 1080p i play older games
Had this paired with mighty geforce 3 mwahahha
Have a sl96h 661
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I had the 661 and in 2011 it was nearly unusable for streaming and watching movies without a good GPU to decode. It was trash by then. In 2023? This has got to be one funny video...
Thanks for checking it out! :) It's great to see progress over the years and really makes me wonder, are we going to see same amount of gains with future CPU's in 15 years?
@@nexus_tech Photon and quantum are both in their infancy but yes, we will see scaling beyond moore's law once we master the tech. You can quote me on that.
Pentium 4 was better for Windows 98 vs anything newer than 98 because using XP on a Pentium 4 was already horrible to deal with
I had a pentium 4 and thought it was awesome until my friend showed me amd 64 which absolutly destroyed it in gaming. I quickly switched and stuck with AMD until the core 2 duo line up.
I always wanted it, but looking at C2D, phew! Thanks for sharing :)
With this Intel pentium 4 651...and 8 gig or ram...you can open.... 20-30 internet pages for sure, then reboot, and They are cached, from this pts,after a reboot with all the pages, you just go on 6-7 pages at the same times, They others will not be activated, so 6-7 at the same shot, with one running a youtube video without any problem. On Internet this pentium 4 is not very bad. The pentium III is slow, and every Intels seen without SSE3....this last features change everything, Win 7 still a good Interface, maybe better than windows Xp pro for his administration of the Hyper-threading. The Hyperthreading possibility of the pentium 4 in test ...and around win xp, win vista, win 7, win 8.1 has to be done. A video just for this. It Could be good if microsoft had invented a test just for the study of the Hyperthreading in action/result.
Owned a Pentium D 2 x 3Ghz CPU. It was a hot mess, not helped by a motherboard plagued with gremlins until I had to give up entirely on the build.
I think the happiest I ever was with a setup's performance over time, was my AMD FX-8350 system which way outlived it's time and aged incredibly gracefully. Next to that, my Core 2 Duo E4500 system did very very well for lifetime. I also have a 10 year old (as of October 2023) first gen XPS 15 with an i7-4770 CPU, which aged very well and 10 years later is still very snappy and performant.
Time will tell how my current i7 8750H will do :) So far, so good!
you i9 10850k is so bad how did you get it to loose against a 5600 i would understand if it was a 5800x and higher but a 5600 i think there is something wrong there sorry. you ether have a bad 10850k or you underclocked it or you overclocked the 5600 or both