@MrR0o Thanks for the kudos. It took a fair amount of creativity to deal with the copyright issue. What do people think about the way we handled it? It's at the beginning of the 3rd segment. - Steve Oh, Executive Director of The Point
@townsquare Isnt it a better idea to have a list of time indexes of each segment in the info bar rather than have separate videos? That way people can just click on what part they want to see.
Mimi was NOT suggesting that ALL violence is bad. She was suggesting that gratuitous violence should not be glorified or exalted as the only/best means of resolving conflict. No one is saying violence in movie = violent acts in real life. She's asking for a higher form of dialogue and uplifting the conversation in movies. That's a fair point. Violence in Schindler's List makes sense. Cop movies where they joke every time they kill a bad guy (Lethal Weapon, eg), is pretty stupid after a while.
@CraigSips Sorry, it was Burma. I don't think it had a huge play in the events, but apparently it was in the news or something around the time the movie came out.
it's so annoying when they say "nooo it can't be this way, because i talked to someone who was... ".. Just because you can dig up an exception, doesn't change the point someone just brought up.. it happens so often in these kinds of debates.
Interesting story: the movie Independence Day was going to get military funding UNTIL they showed the script had a scene taking place in Area 51 and they withdrew. BTW, I'm surprised nobody in the panel mentioned Michael Bay and how he portrays US Nationalism in every one of his movies as if it were a Pepsi Commercial.
The Thing is one of the most gruesome and visceral movies that still tells a story of humanity. It may not be an "uplifting" story, but it rings completely true in terms of the darker side of our psyches. Just to be clear, I'm talking about the 1982 film, not the useless fluff from last year.
Violence in media doesn't promote violence. It wasn't the case for movies, comic books or video games or rap music. Fanatic zealotry is what founds violence. The crusades, the middle east, burning abortion clinics, when you base your life around something not tied to facts or reality, your actions no longer have consequence in this world.
@townsquare They clutter up the inbox if I'm going to watch the full episode anyways. At least if you do post the segments, post them after you upload the full episode so we do not watch the same parts twice.
EVERYONE needs to see "This Film Is Not Yet Rated" (it's on Netflix). It explores both the topic of violence (which often gets pg-13 ratings) compared to sexuality (which has an effective ban through the use of the X-rating) as well as the topic of military cooperation to create films (where the military has a hard veto over the final cut of the film). I don't know where I first was referred to this film, but it really changed my opinion of the film industry and I recommend it to everyone.
with the 1968 moment at the mexico olympics with the salute. watch Salute the movie. always forgetting the other guy at the podium there. at least smith and carlos along with some others + us track + field association remember him. smith and carlos went to his funeral as pallbearers in australia.
Violence in films, tv, and video games is propaganda for those who can't think for themselves and entertainment and escapism for those who have a mind of their own.
Films should have a story people can get involved in, and some of them are violent; however, the amount of mindless violence movies with no real story or plot are on the rise.
@mattknow I think Rampell was the furthest out there, and the other three didn't agree. You should watch end of the episode because it's quite interesting.
husband was doing, clearly demonstrates a point where the hero crosses a line into villainy, torturing an innocent to extract information. And so he gets his daughter back and everything's hunky-dory. The message here is that it's alright to be completely immoral if it's for a good cause. Glorified violence without consequence. The point here is that violence in a story is not always bad, but the nature of it depends almost entirely on the quality of its treatment.
Violence in videogames and movies don't desensitize me to violence, I defer between a person getting cut to pieces in a game or a Hollywood movie and then a news footage of a guy getting kicked in the head at a football game. the guy in the movie will get back up and go hang out with his 'attacker' and the guy at the football game will surfer injury and pain. people can tell the difference between reality and videogame/movie violence.
While I think that Hollywood often mindlessly glorifies violence, there are many American movies that portray it in it's proper light. Scorsese movies come to mind and movies like Saving Private Ryan or Letters From Iwo Jima. However, anyone familiar with Shakespeare, as Mimi holds up as an example of elevated culture, can attest to the fact that many of the plots revolve around acts of violence. And don't even get me started on the Greek tragedies.
Con't. I always feel the need to say, "First and foremost, I do not support censorship." But here are my points: 1. I think a fair principle to PERSONALLY apply to one's taste when it comes to violence is as long as a movie isn't pushing violence and force as the only answer to a human problem, then it's okay. If it is, criticize it or counter it, but don't censor it to the point of invisibility. I'm with Tina on that one....
That one guy in the middle saying that mash was bloody it might've been in the operating rooms but they never showed someone getting shot in blood sprain everywhere. At least mash were showing some compassion that when a soldier came in the operation room they were doing everything to keep him alive in the viewers were cheering them on for that soldier to live.
Tina Dupuy is one of the most attractive women I've ever seen on TV/RUclips/Whatever. Not only does she have classy good looks, but she's so fucking smart and thoughtful. Now if you'll excuse me, I must go play with myself
Unfortunately life in all it's aspects aren't just romantic comedies and sweet tales of boy meets girl. Violence is apart of everyday life and hence it finds itself in our culture. Violence in films isn't what is making people violent around the world. Before films there were the crusades, genocides of entire cultures (Mayans), invasion of lands, and albeit during the early revolution of cinema, the Holocaust. Human nature is what makes people violent, not people acting out scenes.
I get what they are trying to say but as a horror fan I don't like when people try and condemn anything violent or horrifying as being some sort of propaganda, sure there are some that are made for that purpose but there are just as many non-violent films created to instill certain ideals as there are violent ones.
@kylvin318 I agree with you on violence in cartoons. Tom and Jerry disgusted me as a kid because of how violent and repetitive they were. But, I think showing less violence on TV is hardly sanitizing - it's conforming more to reality. Something that bothers me is the inability of corporations (not artists, who have a diminished role in the production process) to deliver excitement without violence. The most exciting moments of my life were non-violent; the most violent moments were terrifying.
The Romans had gladiators hacking away at each other and christians being eaten by lions. In medival times, people watched public executions. Today people watch Saw 1-17. I call that progress.
I agree with the "house specialty" comment. I've definitely seen (or at least seen parts of) plenty of non-American films that are violent and have no point besides action... But I'd say it's the American films that everybody knows as such. There are violent French action/horror films but when someone thinks of French films, I think it's not those that come to mind.
It really depends on the person and their mindset. I love my violent video games, they serve as a great stress relief for me, but when I try to imagine killing real ppl, I feel sick. Also, it helps if the person has firm grasp on what's fiction and what's not. For example, the big outcry against Harry Potter was that it'll make kids want to be witches and blah blah blah, but if the kid understands that it's just a story and NOT REAL it makes a huge difference.
@ABC132Acd also this : In psychology, sublimation is a mature type of defence mechanism where socially unacceptable impulses or idealizations are consciously transformed into socially acceptable actions or behaviour, possibly converting the initial impulse in the long term. According to Wade and Tavris, sublimation is when displacement "serves a higher cultural or socially useful purpose, as in the creation of art or inventions."[1].
Nothing wrong with violent movies, films like The Raid 1 & 2, Battle Royale, Apocalypto, Goodfellas, Kill Bill, Kick Ass, Mad Max Fury Road and many more, we need films like them, it's what makes cinema great.. Now violence in real life is vile, disgusting, and shocking.
+grindhouse74 Americans are ignorant to the real violence that happens in wars we participate in (and don't) and the senseless genocides across the world because our corporate-owned major media outlets don't cover the horrendous nature of it all such as little kids with their heads and limbs blown off because of drone and missile strikes. They should cover more of the real violence and dial back the gratuitous stuff in movies which just desensitizes us.
@ 6:05 The place in TV where violence is still showed but the ultimate point is life affirming and explores the human experience.....Watch any Star Trek series or movie.
I never see a hollywood movie with excessive violence and warmongering. I can only see Pixar movies now. The only way to change this is if we boycott hollywood.
Even if you were to get the military to stop funding movies, the private military industrial complex (those who make the weapons) will only pick up the slack. In fact it's a good question, are they already doing it? I think movies should at least have to divulge investors on the packaging, like products do ingredients. Or like the "Warning" message on a pack of cigs. Its not perfect, and its not the only thing to do...but its a start. Imagine: "Warning: Film Financed by CIA, DOD"
Imagine if everyone nominated for an Oscar made it an opportunity to push a political agenda or cause. The Oscars would become unwatchable. More than it already is, that is.
Con't. "Stay away from my zombie movies." 2. When it comes to the Pentagon, I can agree to truth in advertising and an end to subsidies; when the state is allowed to craft a film, I do think that begins to tread the line of propaganda. But if Jerry Bruckheimer still values our military and wants to make pro-military movies, that should be his free speech right. If he violates the above principle along the way at some point, my suggestion is to criticize or counter, but not censor.
@townsquare Can't speak for @M3IZI, but I agree with him/her. My reason for liking this better is that there is easier to find the full episode and that the clips suck when you actualy want to watch the show. I'd much prefer it if you'd link to segment using time linke like 01:22 - The first point
@oldoldoldoldold 9cont.) If the idea of bettering society is sanitizing, and pretending everyday unfortunate things do not happen then it isn't genuine. Films are artistic expression that no one has a place to dictate in, besides the artist themselves. These are people who are acting for entertainment value, not people who are actually killing each other. If people don't want to see these films or shows they are not required to do so. Even cartoons 40-60 years ago had very violent themes.
I have a book by Ed Rampell on this very topiv very informative by I am a bit dissapointed that the book does not mention Arthur Miller's the Crucible.
It is right that movies and video game do desensitize the majority where we are going back to the Roman days. Having the lose of people lives and cruel torture is a main source of our entertainment. As curious human and with technology to spread information so fast and easy that we have pretty much seen it all. Death and the cruelty of mankind is the new trend. It is only natural for us. I believe that we all need to have more value to human life and focus on how we will advice into the future.
I think what Marlon Brando was great because it was an inappropriate place for it and that can brings more awareness. If lets say Steven Spielberg (and this all hypothetical) appeared on CNN and talks against the drone strikes, I don't think it would get too much attention outside the news media. However, if he says that stuff during the Academy Awards, then people who don't watch the news are going to pay attention and I think it also it shows that he cares more about it than an award.
This program is irritating and full of hearsay. 1. The context of violence and the consequences given for the violence are vital to any impression made. 2. Tina says people get fat not violent. People become more fearful and might curb their behavior in the real world due to feelings of fear and feel less and less toward extreme and explicit violence. 3. There are studies that show what was once R is now PG. Get better guests. Mediaed.org has good info on this topic of military/violence. . .
I believe the point on violence in movies is over hyped the people who long for extremely violent movies and take them as more than just simple guilty pleasure entertainment don't watch and arent interested in deep intellectual dramas it wouldn't matter if we had more of them or less violent movies they still gravitate to that form of entertainment.
@oldoldoldoldold This isn't a societal aspect but a question of nature. While you may not be violent because of higher thought processing, it does not mean that the human race is not violent by nature. Much like humans are sexual by nature, whether you realize it or not it is apart of the human psyche. There are no excuses to separate a person from bettering society but this is why we have moral codes of ethic and laws that punish this behavior.
The French already make movies, Cenk, and they are very different from American ones. This schizophrenic culture where dirty words are censored and penises are never shown at all, but violence is all over the place, is unique to America. It is a militarised country for which violence is very important, it's very different from other industrialised countries. American movies are also way more nationalistic than French ones, or most other European ones.
14:06 how pentagon influences movies
@MrR0o Thanks for the kudos. It took a fair amount of creativity to deal with the copyright issue. What do people think about the way we handled it? It's at the beginning of the 3rd segment. - Steve Oh, Executive Director of The Point
This is an awesome conversation.
Cenk, YOU ROCK. Keep up the good work.
@M3IZI Why didn't you like the a la carte segments in addition to the full episode?
Really enjoying these shows keep up the good work.
I'm really enjoying this format!
I am your 10,000th subscriber!
Great discussion Thanks for this !!
@townsquare Isnt it a better idea to have a list of time indexes of each segment in the info bar rather than have separate videos? That way people can just click on what part they want to see.
I noticed that the cover of Ed's book had a picture of Mike on it in the lower left corner.
Awesome guys and of course Tina. Love the point.
This show deserves a shitload more viewers!
Great show, I enjoyed it.
Mimi was NOT suggesting that ALL violence is bad. She was suggesting that gratuitous violence should not be glorified or exalted as the only/best means of resolving conflict. No one is saying violence in movie = violent acts in real life. She's asking for a higher form of dialogue and uplifting the conversation in movies. That's a fair point. Violence in Schindler's List makes sense. Cop movies where they joke every time they kill a bad guy (Lethal Weapon, eg), is pretty stupid after a while.
This is what will replace TV, and it is glorious!
@CraigSips Sorry, it was Burma. I don't think it had a huge play in the events, but apparently it was in the news or something around the time the movie came out.
@townsquare I'm a fan of the a la carte segments.
Why not?
"Stay away from my zombie filmes!" She said it all. Period.
Ed Rampell reminds me of me when I was in college.
@MrR0o what does that mean? How are they getting around the copyright restriction?
it's so annoying when they say "nooo it can't be this way, because i talked to someone who was... ".. Just because you can dig up an exception, doesn't change the point someone just brought up.. it happens so often in these kinds of debates.
@townsquare I never watch those, aren't they part of the show broken down into segments?
Interesting story: the movie Independence Day was going to get military funding UNTIL they showed the script had a scene taking place in Area 51 and they withdrew. BTW, I'm surprised nobody in the panel mentioned Michael Bay and how he portrays US Nationalism in every one of his movies as if it were a Pepsi Commercial.
This show is awesome!
The Thing is one of the most gruesome and visceral movies that still tells a story of humanity. It may not be an "uplifting" story, but it rings completely true in terms of the darker side of our psyches.
Just to be clear, I'm talking about the 1982 film, not the useless fluff from last year.
Certainly, "Why would Marlon Brando need a publicity stunt? He's Marlon Brando."
Tina's wooping cough point was bang on.
M.A.S.H.... damn... having such a feeling of nostalgia right now.
Violence in media doesn't promote violence. It wasn't the case for movies, comic books or video games or rap music. Fanatic zealotry is what founds violence. The crusades, the middle east, burning abortion clinics, when you base your life around something not tied to facts or reality, your actions no longer have consequence in this world.
@townsquare They clutter up the inbox if I'm going to watch the full episode anyways. At least if you do post the segments, post them after you upload the full episode so we do not watch the same parts twice.
"Why wasn't that in the movie?" It was in the movie
EVERYONE needs to see "This Film Is Not Yet Rated" (it's on Netflix). It explores both the topic of violence (which often gets pg-13 ratings) compared to sexuality (which has an effective ban through the use of the X-rating) as well as the topic of military cooperation to create films (where the military has a hard veto over the final cut of the film). I don't know where I first was referred to this film, but it really changed my opinion of the film industry and I recommend it to everyone.
@townsquare I try to view, upvote, and comment on every TYT video and it was starting to take a lot of time ;-)
I actually prefer the little segments. I probably watch the same amount of young turks either way.... but I am special.
Yes! Tina Dupuy. Didn't know she had her own spinoff show till now.
Love the copyright restriction work around guys :) Blessed be the geeks.
with the 1968 moment at the mexico olympics with the salute. watch Salute the movie. always forgetting the other guy at the podium there. at least smith and carlos along with some others + us track + field association remember him. smith and carlos went to his funeral as pallbearers in australia.
Brando , one of the last actors to have INTEGRITY , along with Paul Newman .
without a doubt townsquare is my favorite TYT section, wish it got more followers thou.
Violence in films, tv, and video games is propaganda for those who can't think for themselves and entertainment and escapism for those who have a mind of their own.
You can't show the Oscar video? Dosn't fall under fair use?
Films should have a story people can get involved in, and some of them are violent; however, the amount of mindless violence movies with no real story or plot are on the rise.
@mattknow I think Rampell was the furthest out there, and the other three didn't agree. You should watch end of the episode because it's quite interesting.
husband was doing, clearly demonstrates a point where the hero crosses a line into villainy, torturing an innocent to extract information. And so he gets his daughter back and everything's hunky-dory. The message here is that it's alright to be completely immoral if it's for a good cause. Glorified violence without consequence. The point here is that violence in a story is not always bad, but the nature of it depends almost entirely on the quality of its treatment.
Violent movies, shows, and games cause widespread violence like love songs and schmaltzy folk music cause widespread peace and happiness.
Violence in videogames and movies don't desensitize me to violence, I defer between a person getting cut to pieces in a game or a Hollywood movie and then a news footage of a guy getting kicked in the head at a football game. the guy in the movie will get back up and go hang out with his 'attacker' and the guy at the football game will surfer injury and pain. people can tell the difference between reality and videogame/movie violence.
6:20 this is so true.
While I think that Hollywood often mindlessly glorifies violence, there are many American movies that portray it in it's proper light. Scorsese movies come to mind and movies like Saving Private Ryan or Letters From Iwo Jima.
However, anyone familiar with Shakespeare, as Mimi holds up as an example of elevated culture, can attest to the fact that many of the plots revolve around acts of violence. And don't even get me started on the Greek tragedies.
I can't say that I learned anything during this discussion
Video games have beautiful stories and are certainly more diverse than Hollywood.
Violence in movies is good for US foreign politics : it trivialize war and makes it less shoking in the eyes of the population.
a soldier being draged naked is in the movie, Black Hawck Down was well reveiwed
Con't. I always feel the need to say, "First and foremost, I do not support censorship." But here are my points:
1. I think a fair principle to PERSONALLY apply to one's taste when it comes to violence is as long as a movie isn't pushing violence and force as the only answer to a human problem, then it's okay. If it is, criticize it or counter it, but don't censor it to the point of invisibility. I'm with Tina on that one....
Ed needs to watch Black Hawk Down again, it doesn't depict Americans as invincible.
Regarding Part 2: how about adds like "The Pentagon hates this movie!" Could this work?
@FirebyrdXX wow that's a really interesting point there. Thanks!
That one guy in the middle saying that mash was bloody it might've been in the operating rooms but they never showed someone getting shot in blood sprain everywhere. At least mash were showing some compassion that when a soldier came in the operation room they were doing everything to keep him alive in the viewers were cheering them on for that soldier to live.
Tina Dupuy is one of the most attractive women I've ever seen on TV/RUclips/Whatever. Not only does she have classy good looks, but she's so fucking smart and thoughtful. Now if you'll excuse me, I must go play with myself
The last Rambo film did spark an uprising in Borneo was it? :P
Unfortunately life in all it's aspects aren't just romantic comedies and sweet tales of boy meets girl. Violence is apart of everyday life and hence it finds itself in our culture.
Violence in films isn't what is making people violent around the world. Before films there were the crusades, genocides of entire cultures (Mayans), invasion of lands, and albeit during the early revolution of cinema, the Holocaust.
Human nature is what makes people violent, not people acting out scenes.
I get what they are trying to say but as a horror fan I don't like when people try and condemn anything violent or horrifying as being some sort of propaganda, sure there are some that are made for that purpose but there are just as many non-violent films created to instill certain ideals as there are violent ones.
@kylvin318 I agree with you on violence in cartoons. Tom and Jerry disgusted me as a kid because of how violent and repetitive they were. But, I think showing less violence on TV is hardly sanitizing - it's conforming more to reality. Something that bothers me is the inability of corporations (not artists, who have a diminished role in the production process) to deliver excitement without violence. The most exciting moments of my life were non-violent; the most violent moments were terrifying.
The Romans had gladiators hacking away at each other and christians being eaten by lions.
In medival times, people watched public executions.
Today people watch Saw 1-17. I call that progress.
I agree with the "house specialty" comment. I've definitely seen (or at least seen parts of) plenty of non-American films that are violent and have no point besides action... But I'd say it's the American films that everybody knows as such. There are violent French action/horror films but when someone thinks of French films, I think it's not those that come to mind.
It really depends on the person and their mindset. I love my violent video games, they serve as a great stress relief for me, but when I try to imagine killing real ppl, I feel sick. Also, it helps if the person has firm grasp on what's fiction and what's not. For example, the big outcry against Harry Potter was that it'll make kids want to be witches and blah blah blah, but if the kid understands that it's just a story and NOT REAL it makes a huge difference.
they're "young" 'cause they're not old, not 'cause they're children or college students
@ABC132Acd also this : In psychology, sublimation is a mature type of defence mechanism where socially unacceptable impulses or idealizations are consciously transformed into socially acceptable actions or behaviour, possibly converting the initial impulse in the long term. According to Wade and Tavris, sublimation is when displacement "serves a higher cultural or socially useful purpose, as in the creation of art or inventions."[1].
Nothing wrong with violent movies, films like The Raid 1 & 2, Battle Royale, Apocalypto, Goodfellas, Kill Bill, Kick Ass, Mad Max Fury Road and many more, we need films like them, it's what makes cinema great.. Now violence in real life is vile, disgusting, and shocking.
+grindhouse74 Americans are ignorant to the real violence that happens in wars we participate in (and don't) and the senseless genocides across the world because our corporate-owned major media outlets don't cover the horrendous nature of it all such as little kids with their heads and limbs blown off because of drone and missile strikes. They should cover more of the real violence and dial back the gratuitous stuff in movies which just desensitizes us.
Francis Ford Coppola didn't get script approval, so he had to get the Philippine armed forces to play the U.S. in Apocalypse Now.
@ 6:05 The place in TV where violence is still showed but the ultimate point is life affirming and explores the human experience.....Watch any Star Trek series or movie.
I never see a hollywood movie with excessive violence and warmongering. I can only see Pixar movies now. The only way to change this is if we boycott hollywood.
ahhh the holywood video was removed.it had a counter and said was removed for copyright
@townsquare Segments are okay, i prefer the long episodes so i dont have to listen to multiple ads. But you know this so why do you ask Cenk?
Chickenhawk down! Great line!
I would not say that violence in movies is the problem, but I would say it is the pointlessness of movies that has led to this sense of nihilism.
What about Little Big Man? two years earlier
Even if you were to get the military to stop funding movies, the private military industrial complex (those who make the weapons) will only pick up the slack. In fact it's a good question, are they already doing it?
I think movies should at least have to divulge investors on the packaging, like products do ingredients. Or like the "Warning" message on a pack of cigs. Its not perfect, and its not the only thing to do...but its a start. Imagine: "Warning: Film Financed by CIA, DOD"
Imagine if everyone nominated for an Oscar made it an opportunity to push a political agenda or cause. The Oscars would become unwatchable. More than it already is, that is.
Ed Rampell is telling it like it is!
Con't. "Stay away from my zombie movies."
2. When it comes to the Pentagon, I can agree to truth in advertising and an end to subsidies; when the state is allowed to craft a film, I do think that begins to tread the line of propaganda. But if Jerry Bruckheimer still values our military and wants to make pro-military movies, that should be his free speech right. If he violates the above principle along the way at some point, my suggestion is to criticize or counter, but not censor.
@townsquare Can't speak for @M3IZI, but I agree with him/her.
My reason for liking this better is that there is easier to find the full episode and that the clips suck when you actualy want to watch the show.
I'd much prefer it if you'd link to segment using time linke like
01:22 - The first point
what about imports like John Woo and Bruce Lee?
@oldoldoldoldold 9cont.) If the idea of bettering society is sanitizing, and pretending everyday unfortunate things do not happen then it isn't genuine.
Films are artistic expression that no one has a place to dictate in, besides the artist themselves. These are people who are acting for entertainment value, not people who are actually killing each other. If people don't want to see these films or shows they are not required to do so.
Even cartoons 40-60 years ago had very violent themes.
@ManNorthern
but by no means mindless, Hommer never glorified the Trojan war as it was written to be a tragedy with deep moral lesson to it.
I have a book by Ed Rampell on this very topiv very informative by I am a bit dissapointed that the book does not mention Arthur Miller's the Crucible.
It is right that movies and video game do desensitize the majority where we are going back to the Roman days. Having the lose of people lives and cruel torture is a main source of our entertainment. As curious human and with technology to spread information so fast and easy that we have pretty much seen it all. Death and the cruelty of mankind is the new trend. It is only natural for us. I believe that we all need to have more value to human life and focus on how we will advice into the future.
*clear's throat* Hitler was not a vegetarian. This is an urban myth.
The first point was way too lib for me: let the market decide what movies it wants to see.
I think what Marlon Brando was great because it was an inappropriate place for it and that can brings more awareness. If lets say Steven Spielberg (and this all hypothetical) appeared on CNN and talks against the drone strikes, I don't think it would get too much attention outside the news media. However, if he says that stuff during the Academy Awards, then people who don't watch the news are going to pay attention and I think it also it shows that he cares more about it than an award.
If the French could they WOULDN'T make the same movies, i've lived there for 10 years, believe me they wouldn't.
This program is irritating and full of hearsay. 1. The context of violence and the consequences given for the violence are vital to any impression made. 2. Tina says people get fat not violent. People become more fearful and might curb their behavior in the real world due to feelings of fear and feel less and less toward extreme and explicit violence. 3. There are studies that show what was once R is now PG. Get better guests. Mediaed.org has good info on this topic of military/violence. . .
I watched the mighty first Transformers movie with Michael Bay's commentray and he admits to asking for and getting military support.
Sorry bro I need my Game of Thrones .
Mimi Kennedy... I thought that was Alison La Placa.
I believe the point on violence in movies is over hyped the people who long for extremely violent movies and take them as more than just simple guilty pleasure entertainment don't watch and arent interested in deep intellectual dramas it wouldn't matter if we had more of them or less violent movies they still gravitate to that form of entertainment.
@oldoldoldoldold This isn't a societal aspect but a question of nature. While you may not be violent because of higher thought processing, it does not mean that the human race is not violent by nature. Much like humans are sexual by nature, whether you realize it or not it is apart of the human psyche.
There are no excuses to separate a person from bettering society but this is why we have moral codes of ethic and laws that punish this behavior.
@Issypt No, you are in fact wrong, and so is Jenny McCarthy.
The French already make movies, Cenk, and they are very different from American ones.
This schizophrenic culture where dirty words are censored and penises are never shown at all, but violence is all over the place, is unique to America. It is a militarised country for which violence is very important, it's very different from other industrialised countries. American movies are also way more nationalistic than French ones, or most other European ones.
Tina is good. TYT should contract her to work there. i love her
@townsquare Don't know why he didn't like the a la carte segments but I didn't like them because they cluttered up my subscriptions box.