Good news, Tour Sniper is now available in 1.30mm and M8 in 1.25mm. Also, and couple comments here roasting us for being sell outs now. I value transparency, so here it is: Obviously we have to try to make money through affiliate links to offset our production costs. I have no reason to hide this fact. For example, the Pure Aero video we made literally cost us 40 hours in labour and $1000 dollars not including camera and mics that we already owned. Grapplesnake has been our biggest supporter on the channel from TennCom’s start, but they never, ever ask us to make reviews, they never pay for the reviews, and they never ask to see the video before they are published. The people behind Grapplesnake value integrity and quality. Both Grapplesnake and TennCom are well aware that as soon as we start making completely paid reviews that our credibility is done for. Further, Grapplesnake supported my university tennis club when no one else would. I’ve had a positive relationship with them for years. I would only ever support a company that I believed offered a high quality product made and sold by people with integrity. The people at Grapplesnake care so much about tennis. They care about TennCom’s success too. If you want to support us, we would love if you bought some string, but watching our videos is more than enough. We have been absolutely thrilled with the positive response we’ve gotten over the past few weeks. If you still think we are bullshit, there are plenty of other tennis channels out there that run sponsor-free content. I recommend Mark Sansait. Best, Beckett
I totally understand that RUclips is a business and anyone who does not approach it that way is engaging in wholehearted tomfoolery. However, it just seems unlikely that two players would choose the same string as their GOAT, considering that there are so many strings on the market. That would be like two sommeliers choosing the same wine as their all-time favorite. That being said, I still think you guys make fire content, even though you refuse to acknowledge that Gamma Jet is among the GOATS, along with my new favorite: Dunlop Black Widow 17. Yes, they have been around forever, but GOAT level is undeniable, no matter what the age. And since I know Beckett has been absolutely on the edge of his seat about which racquet I am playing with, I switched from the VCore 100 to the VCore PRO 100. TennComm is the first to hear about this breaking news, by the way. No matter what the haters say, just keep making great content. The great ones (like Jet and Black Widow) are often under appreciated, misunderstood, and polarizing.
You switched from the VCORE 100? What happened? This is a tragic development in for the VCORE 100 in general. I will try Gamma Jet and call it the GOAT in a new video if it’s worthy
@@TennCom My arm and shoulder could not cozy up to the stiffness of the VCore 100. I know--it's not that stiff. The VCore Pro 100 was just what I wanted coming from the Blade 98 V7, which was a bit more forgiveness and power. It's a flexy, buttery stick. Keep up the good work, guys. You're good for the tennis community. And keep supporting the products you like despite the haters. As you ascend to the top of the tennis content universe, you will gain more haters--which are nothing more than fuzz on your strings.
It's really a don't knock it till you try it with Grapplesnake, I tried the M8 1.30mm and was actually very impressed with it, I only found that I wanted it a little bit stiffer with more control so I'm going to try the Tour Sniper next. Coming from a Solinco Confidential user, I think Tour Sniper may fit me more but who knows, I might miss the feel of the M8. I think if I were to use the M8 again, I would bump up the tension a couple pounds since it feels quite soft and comfortable on hit. As long as Grapplesnake keeps their prices competitive, I will keep trying their strings
@@pimmelfresse9033 yeah I definitely like the M8 much more than the confidential. I find with confidential, I dislike it for the first hour or so but with the M8 I liked it right away
Would you recomend M8 or tour sniper in an Ezone 100? currently testing ptp/ confidential hybrid, but not quite happy. Might have to go lower tension.. currently 24kg
I love the relationship you guys have with grapplesnake and I found grapplesnake because of the first ten com video I saw where you guys were comparing different strings and it made me interested to try it. Tour sniper is the first string I have tried in my racket that I felt like did everything well and I was playing my absolute best with it in my racket so thank you for introducing us to this lesser known brand
Hey Beckett! Have you tried Kirachbaum Max Power 1.25mm? Wishing you guys to compare itt to these strings cuz consistency and durability is what I sought tooo
I love german produced strings. I like to look for simular strings produced in same factory in Germany but sold under different names. The prices really are different but strings pretty much the same. just slight differences. You have from same manufactorers ( not complete list) as example: Tourna, Grapplesnake, Dunlop, Signum Pro, Pro's Pro And Tennis Point.
Hello. In terms of directing the ball, precision, "aiming" (for example, to approach and aim for the corners, hit more open to throw the opponent out), which is better, the Tour Sniper or the M8? (Is there much difference at this point?). I look for this type of control, not depth control through spin (because I hit with little spin and more flat).
@@fingersm it was pretty good. Notching is a bigger problem imo. It’s pretty sharp so the cross can cut into the string a little bit more easily. Once you get a decent groove in the string, playability suffers a lot
Great coverage as always! I just ordered the M8 using your link so thanks for the discount. Quick question, I use confidential at 48# in my puredrive 2021 and like it. What tension should I string the m8 at, full bed? Thanks
Thanks for supporting us! I think it will be best to stick at 48lbs. It'll be easier for you to feel the differences between the strings when you can compare them at the same tension. I think the launch angle on M8 might be a tiny bit lower so you could probably string it at 44-46lbs if you really want to experience a low tension ball pocketing sensation, without losing too much control compared to your Confidential.
Do you think staying in the low 50s tension range is a good idea for a full bed of M8 in a Speed MP? Worried that going below that would take away any sense of control that I may have.
@@TennCom I’ll just come down a few pounds and go from there. Sorry for the redundancy of my question but I’d hate to waste a set of strings on a tension that doesn’t work for me….but it is what it is. I ordered an extra set for that purpose. If I like the string I’ll get a reel next time. Thanks for the discount through the affiliate link; much appreciated!!! Hopefully it still works if and when I order a reel.
This string is amazing.I love it❤.Try it out. I play it with 1.30 in the mains and 1.25 in the crosses it give a bit more pop then fullbed 1.30. Tje Racket i played is Wilson Blade 98 V8.
Have you tried Grapplesnake Alpha? It’s a soft poly that’s supposed to have a mix of power and control and I would be interested to hearing your thoughts on it.
Yes! Love it. Plusher feel than TS but it retains a level of crispness which I like. Used my usual tension and got great consistency out of the string. The reason I prefer Tour Sniper is that Alpha broke for me. I got maybe 8 hours out of it before it broke, where as Tour Sniper lasts till it’s dead without breaking.
I am playing exclusively on clay in summer. So I am wondering what your seggustions would be for a spin focused game on clay playing with a beefed up Head ET and currently using Tour sniper, which I am very happy with but maybe a string with more spin potential would help my game. Nice video as always.
The string that I’ve tried that had the most spin and consistency was Grapplesnake Game Changer. I got a lot of spin from Tier 1 FireWire Boost, but that string notched extremely quickly and was dead after 1 hour. If you don’t mind going to something a bit stiffer, Head Lynx Tour could be a good play as well. It’s got a bit more zip than Tour Sniper and spin is much better. Comfort is worse though.
What tension do you recommend for vcore 98? I usually use 43/45 with sp fire and wcuc. Or sp fire with tornado at 43. Or full sp fireS at 45. I’m waiting my first m8 in México. Thanks for your reviews
Thanks for your comment! I would recommend dropping it down to 40lbs. I haven't tried tensions below that, but I think you could feasibly go as low as 35lbs. The stringers at Del Ray Beach ATP 250 reported that Mannarino went all the way down to 19lbs for that tournament!
I haven't and I don't think so. Typically the recommendation is to string M8 extra low because its able to retain control at those tensions. Havent seen many reports of how it plays at higher tensions though.
What racket are you using right now? I’m using the Iga racket but still not dialed in. Sometimes I hit great shots but not consistently as I know I can play. Tried the pure aero vs but found a small sweet spot and stiff. I’m planning on getting and extreme tour and play side by side with the Iga for a couple of months. I’ll try m8 and cyclone tour on both. Also will be checking new vcore 98 and pure aero 98.
@@adriellepretre9047 Im in between the 360+ Extreme Tour and the Auxetic Extreme MP. I haven't quite found a weight/string setup that makes the Extreme MP work yet. If I had to play a tournament, I'd still use the old Extreme MP, but that may not last for long.
Hi, I have ordered a set of the Grapplesnake Tour M8 1.25 for my Wilson Blade v9 18x20, I’ve been reading A LOT about the string…. In terms of tension, what would u recommend for this racket? I’ve played with 4G at 46lbs and loved that, I’m hoping I’ll still get the same playability, control and tension maintenance but with a little extra pop than 4G with Tour M8, would u say I’ll get this? And was thinking of going maybe 48lbs? What u think? Thanks again
Yeah I think you'll get everything you are looking for. Even if you stick at 46lbs I think you'll find enough predictability and spin at the lower tension. Plus, you'll be able to compared apples to apples a little better if you hold tension constant.
@@TennCom the only reason I was thinking of bumping up to 48lbs is because I’ve heard a lot about an initial tension drop but then it’s great, just wondered if it’s maybe a greater drop initially than 4G so that’s why I thought I’d go up to 48 over 46 for that reason? But I’ve heard other people saying the tension drop isn’t bad and it’s brilliant….
Hi! I wanna know your suggestion about at what tension do u recommend me to start with this string? For ur reference, i used to string my prince phantom 100P with tour bite soft @50 lbs. Thx!
I am an advanced player, that played DII tennis and am now coaching. I want a softer string because of all of the playing I do I tend to get some arm discomfort after using really stiff strings (used to use gamma Moto) and I’m really interested in grapplesnake as I love Brands like this and they give a stringers discount. I can’t try all of there strings for money and times sake but I’m scared that M8 is going to play like rpm which I hate, and I am going to get 2 reels. But I cannot decide between tour sniper, game changer, or the neon dust half set hybrids. I can get 2 different reels but wanted to know what you think would be the best.
M8 is not like RPM at all. It’s way softer and there’s no coating so it plays better longer. RPM has silicone coating which wears off and then the string become harsh and dead. I would look at M8 or Alpha. Would avoid Neon Hybrid due to it being very annoying to string (I assume you string a lot of racquets). Tour Sniper is also excellent but it would give you much for free which can be helpful for coaching.
I love Game Changer. I think it’s the string that I’ve hit the most spin with and I find that it plays more consistently than Hyper G despite the edge. It is very sharp though so if you are stringing other peoples racquets with it, it may not be best.
Quick question, tennisnerd described this string as being particularly stiff, but you guys talk a lot about the ball pocketing. Is it the quick "bottoming out" sensation that you guys noticed that he might be referring to?
I’m not sure what he’s feeling. Simon never felt the bottoming out thing. Only I felt that and only at low tension. Nothing else about my experience made me think the string we stiff at all
Its significantly softer feeling that ALU. ALU has a crispness that most other strings cannot replicate and thats still true here. Spin is better in M8 than both PTP and Alu. PTP plays more dead and I think that the directional control is a little better, but I find it to be too muted and spin is poor. M8 is definitely the softest of the 3 and has the best playability duration. I'd pick M8 all day long if shipping costs are reasonable for you.
Hi Tenncom been following u for a long time now. Can this M8 string up as a hybrid with a multi string? Mains or crosses is better in your opinion? Thank u TennCom 😊
You definitely could, I'd probably do multi mains, as I prefer the playability, but I'm not sure how much M8 would add in the crosses compared to something cheaper. If comfort is a concern, probably better to use gut or a full bed of M8 at 40lbs or less.
M8 is softer and has much better spin. The snapback is better for you get better ball pocketing too. PTP has a more muted feel, which I don't personally love because its too disconnected for me in most new racquets. Directional control and stringbed consistency is better on PTP though. I prefer M8, though PTP is one of my fav round polys
Yeah I found it to be more muted and soft than I like. Ended up feeling mushy and the tension maintenance was not up to the standard that I expected from a poly in 2022. I prefer Tour Status in the Tier 1 line up.
I've been considering M8 for a little while now. But after watching your review here, I'm not so sure I want to. If you're saying strings like Tour Bite, Hyper G, and Lynx Tour are more powerful than M8. Then in my opinion M8 is garbage because those strings are really low powered. I guess that would mean that my current string "Alu Power" provides about 10 times the amount of power that M8 provides. Very disappointing to hear this.
I tried a few demos sets when I worked at Courtside and I absolutely hated it. Really soft, yes, but way too muted and plasticky feeling for me. Also it lost tension after like 1 hit which I was not happy with.
I’ve tried 4G recently for the first time and I liked it a lot. M8 feels softer but 4G has better control IMO. The price of 4G is not my favourite which is why it took my so long to try it.
@@TheodorosKolokotronis799 honestly it would depend on the racquet I think. If it was using something a little launchy-er and more muted (Pure Aero), it would be 4G 1.30. In my Extreme Tour, it’s M8 1.25. In the Extreme MP, it’s M8 1.30.
@@TennCom off topic. I play tested all the racquets you mention. By far my favourite was new pure aero but unfortunately it doesn’t help on the one hand backhand…. you have to follow through. Extreme mp is a real upgrade with a more solid feel but still thick for my liking and felt slower to swing than previous extreme mp. Power and spin was down too like PA23 but now it has more substance. New extreme tour still lacks free power. I hope new strike to have lower SW like project one and finally connected feel to return and be less muted. I am disappointed on the current 98 inch offerings….. V8 for example become soooo low powered. Wilson keeps screwing blade after V6….. i am waiting a whiteout to test.
I really want to try Tour Sniper & M8, since watching your videos and Tennisnerd, i got tempted to try. But unfortunately nobody sell it in Malaysia. Maybe i just need to be the only guy that sell it 😂. Maybe another 5 years. Lol. You guys are one of my favorite youtubers. I do agree with you regarding Firestorm, one of my favorite string also. Another favorite is Solinco Revolution, and i really curious about it playability compared to Tour Sniper & M8. Hope you can consider it! Haha
I havent tried Revolution yet either. I have heard mostly good things but its relatively old and I feel like poly's have really progressed year over year since they came out 20 years ago. It scored oddly high in a lot of categories in the TWU string database so I'm actually quite interested in it
@@TennCom Yeah, its been over 10years since it came out and i’ve been using it for quite sometimes. I really like it a lot, but currently it had cost my arm. Haha. Now i’m playing with multis for a while, once heal i will go back to Revolution and Firestorm. Yeah, TWU rate it quite high and i agree with them, it had control, power and spin. So please TC, please try Revolution later and then compare it Tour Sniper & M8. Looking forward to it!
I thought M8 couldn't possibly be as good as the reviews. It is. Strung in a DR98 at 45lbs and it's so solid and predictable. In contrast I tried their liquid neon hybrid and I wasn't taken as much at all. It's not grapplesnake, it's tour M8. Trying sniper next! Maybe you should try it before saying it isn't as good. It has almost universal glowing reviews, maybe it's just great?
Thanks for backing us up. I was pretty skeptical as well and really doubted the claims that I'd read online. I have absolutely no idea what about the poly-formula makes this string different, but I think it as unique as other weird strings like RPM Power or LXN Smart.
RPM Power is pretty unique. I don’t think these anything like it. M8 feels much more “normal” whereas Rpm P has hybrid qualities with launch angle yet probably the best control in any string.
Just haven’t had time to do string reviews until recently. I’ll be talking about it at some point either in a poly hybriding video if not the standalone review
Hey genuine question, is this a sponsored video? Do you have any sponsorship arrangement with Grapplesnake? I thought i’ve seen you mention that before. Seems like some conflict of interest there
This comment might get deleted, but I agree with Chanandler. This seems to hurt your credibility recommending something and them offering a link to the same product.
Tell you what paid or not paid, tour M8 is the a great string. Everything they say is great and you can drop tension if you string high. I switched to this string a few months ago and its perfect. They make a 17g now
Its not that cheap tbh. A reel cost me $190 plus i was dinged with $40duty. M8 is a very different type of string. Holds tension and is more comfortable than 4G (which is love) and im not afraid to swing full.
Assuming you've read the pinned comment on how our relationship with Grapplesnake works, how do you think we should proceed then? I really value your opinion and want to grow the channel as much as possible. I think the only way to do this is to produce more videos at a higher quality. More videos and more quality requires more money. At this time, Google/RUclips Ad revenue is not even close to being enough to produce 1 racquet review per month. We are lucky enough that some viewers do donate via PayPal and Super Thanks, as well as the racquet consultation service I debuted on the last video, but its not enough to actually grow the channel. I am open to other solutions beyond sponsored content, but it really seems like the only thing that keeps RUclips channels alive.
You bunch of misleading con man , u do these videos with the intent of making money so of course you will be doing it for brands that are willing to pay you. bunch of 3.0s talking fancy terms about strings . Your tennis is so average whatever strings you use wouldn’t make a difference.
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Good news, Tour Sniper is now available in 1.30mm and M8 in 1.25mm.
Also, and couple comments here roasting us for being sell outs now. I value transparency, so here it is:
Obviously we have to try to make money through affiliate links to offset our production costs. I have no reason to hide this fact. For example, the Pure Aero video we made literally cost us 40 hours in labour and $1000 dollars not including camera and mics that we already owned.
Grapplesnake has been our biggest supporter on the channel from TennCom’s start, but they never, ever ask us to make reviews, they never pay for the reviews, and they never ask to see the video before they are published. The people behind Grapplesnake value integrity and quality. Both Grapplesnake and TennCom are well aware that as soon as we start making completely paid reviews that our credibility is done for.
Further, Grapplesnake supported my university tennis club when no one else would. I’ve had a positive relationship with them for years. I would only ever support a company that I believed offered a high quality product made and sold by people with integrity. The people at Grapplesnake care so much about tennis. They care about TennCom’s success too.
If you want to support us, we would love if you bought some string, but watching our videos is more than enough. We have been absolutely thrilled with the positive response we’ve gotten over the past few weeks. If you still think we are bullshit, there are plenty of other tennis channels out there that run sponsor-free content. I recommend Mark Sansait.
Best,
Beckett
I totally understand that RUclips is a business and anyone who does not approach it that way is engaging in wholehearted tomfoolery.
However, it just seems unlikely that two players would choose the same string as their GOAT, considering that there are so many strings on the market. That would be like two sommeliers choosing the same wine as their all-time favorite.
That being said, I still think you guys make fire content, even though you refuse to acknowledge that Gamma Jet is among the GOATS, along with my new favorite: Dunlop Black Widow 17. Yes, they have been around forever, but GOAT level is undeniable, no matter what the age.
And since I know Beckett has been absolutely on the edge of his seat about which racquet I am playing with, I switched from the VCore 100 to the VCore PRO 100. TennComm is the first to hear about this breaking news, by the way.
No matter what the haters say, just keep making great content. The great ones (like Jet and Black Widow) are often under appreciated, misunderstood, and polarizing.
You switched from the VCORE 100? What happened? This is a tragic development in for the VCORE 100 in general.
I will try Gamma Jet and call it the GOAT in a new video if it’s worthy
@@TennCom My arm and shoulder could not cozy up to the stiffness of the VCore 100. I know--it's not that stiff. The VCore Pro 100 was just what I wanted coming from the Blade 98 V7, which was a bit more forgiveness and power. It's a flexy, buttery stick.
Keep up the good work, guys. You're good for the tennis community. And keep supporting the products you like despite the haters. As you ascend to the top of the tennis content universe, you will gain more haters--which are nothing more than fuzz on your strings.
@@naokisonoda-hq Critique helps shape you. Every business owner should embrace critique.
I also strung M8 at 40lbs and love it. I'll try stringing higher and lower. My usual tension is around 49
Its still the string I prefer for tournaments!
It's really a don't knock it till you try it with Grapplesnake, I tried the M8 1.30mm and was actually very impressed with it, I only found that I wanted it a little bit stiffer with more control so I'm going to try the Tour Sniper next.
Coming from a Solinco Confidential user, I think Tour Sniper may fit me more but who knows, I might miss the feel of the M8. I think if I were to use the M8 again, I would bump up the tension a couple pounds since it feels quite soft and comfortable on hit. As long as Grapplesnake keeps their prices competitive, I will keep trying their strings
Confidential is such an overrated string. Man, Tour Sniper is a huge step up!!!
@@pimmelfresse9033 yeah I definitely like the M8 much more than the confidential. I find with confidential, I dislike it for the first hour or so but with the M8 I liked it right away
The tour sniper is now also as an 16 gage in stock. And she is also absolut great.
Would you recomend M8 or tour sniper in an Ezone 100? currently testing ptp/ confidential hybrid, but not quite happy. Might have to go lower tension.. currently 24kg
M8 if you want more forgiveness outside the sweetspot and Sniper if you want ultimate control on big swings
I love the relationship you guys have with grapplesnake and I found grapplesnake because of the first ten com video I saw where you guys were comparing different strings and it made me interested to try it. Tour sniper is the first string I have tried in my racket that I felt like did everything well and I was playing my absolute best with it in my racket so thank you for introducing us to this lesser known brand
Hey Beckett! Have you tried Kirachbaum Max Power 1.25mm? Wishing you guys to compare itt to these strings cuz consistency and durability is what I sought tooo
Ok you convinced me
But don’t expect any power or spin bahaha. Idk how to describe the string tbh and nt much revieww, it’s just a durable round string 😂
Who cares about power and spin anyway?
I love german produced strings. I like to look for simular strings produced in same factory in Germany but sold under different names. The prices really are different but strings pretty much the same. just slight differences.
You have from same manufactorers ( not complete list) as example:
Tourna, Grapplesnake, Dunlop, Signum Pro, Pro's Pro And Tennis Point.
Hello. In terms of directing the ball, precision, "aiming" (for example, to approach and aim for the corners, hit more open to throw the opponent out), which is better, the Tour Sniper or the M8? (Is there much difference at this point?). I look for this type of control, not depth control through spin (because I hit with little spin and more flat).
I usually don't use a whole reel, but this is my favorite poly by far. Like you said, it's great as full bed and in a multi/poly hybrid(as a cross).
Great string!
Really waiting to try the cubed string soon
I recommend Game Changer over Cube. It’s more modern and played surprisingly consistently for a string with such an aggressive edge.
@@TennCom Thats what i mwNt. Could not think of name.
How is tension maintenance with it?
@@fingersm it was pretty good. Notching is a bigger problem imo. It’s pretty sharp so the cross can cut into the string a little bit more easily. Once you get a decent groove in the string, playability suffers a lot
Hello, can you compare with Luxilon Original 130 yelow? This is the best soft poly that I have tried after play with 20 soft polis
Great coverage as always! I just ordered the M8 using your link so thanks for the discount. Quick question, I use confidential at 48# in my puredrive 2021 and like it. What tension should I string the m8 at, full bed? Thanks
Thanks for supporting us! I think it will be best to stick at 48lbs. It'll be easier for you to feel the differences between the strings when you can compare them at the same tension. I think the launch angle on M8 might be a tiny bit lower so you could probably string it at 44-46lbs if you really want to experience a low tension ball pocketing sensation, without losing too much control compared to your Confidential.
@@TennCom Thanks!
Got solinco confidential on my pure drive. Match made in heaven
I also really liked the RPM Power string in the Pure Drive when I first tried it
Do you think staying in the low 50s tension range is a good idea for a full bed of M8 in a Speed MP? Worried that going below that would take away any sense of control that I may have.
depends on your normal tension but M8 is design to remain controllable in the 40s. I can use it happily at 45lbs in my Whiteout.
@@TennCom I’ll just come down a few pounds and go from there. Sorry for the redundancy of my question but I’d hate to waste a set of strings on a tension that doesn’t work for me….but it is what it is. I ordered an extra set for that purpose. If I like the string I’ll get a reel next time. Thanks for the discount through the affiliate link; much appreciated!!! Hopefully it still works if and when I order a reel.
This string is amazing.I love it❤.Try it out.
I play it with 1.30 in the mains and 1.25 in the crosses it give a bit more pop then fullbed 1.30.
Tje Racket i played is Wilson Blade 98 V8.
Have you tried Grapplesnake Alpha? It’s a soft poly that’s supposed to have a mix of power and control and I would be interested to hearing your thoughts on it.
Yes! Love it. Plusher feel than TS but it retains a level of crispness which I like. Used my usual tension and got great consistency out of the string. The reason I prefer Tour Sniper is that Alpha broke for me. I got maybe 8 hours out of it before it broke, where as Tour Sniper lasts till it’s dead without breaking.
@@TennCom Oh, thanks!
I’m surprised you guys haven’t compared it to the solinco confidential
Can you compare this to hyper g 125 in terms of control, spin, power and comfort? thanks a lot
I am playing exclusively on clay in summer. So I am wondering what your seggustions would be for a spin focused game on clay playing with a beefed up Head ET and currently using Tour sniper, which I am very happy with but maybe a string with more spin potential would help my game.
Nice video as always.
The string that I’ve tried that had the most spin and consistency was Grapplesnake Game Changer. I got a lot of spin from Tier 1 FireWire Boost, but that string notched extremely quickly and was dead after 1 hour. If you don’t mind going to something a bit stiffer, Head Lynx Tour could be a good play as well. It’s got a bit more zip than Tour Sniper and spin is much better. Comfort is worse though.
How do you find m8 vs alpha?
What tension do you recommend for vcore 98? I usually use 43/45 with sp fire and wcuc. Or sp fire with tornado at 43. Or full sp fireS at 45. I’m waiting my first m8 in México. Thanks for your reviews
Thanks for your comment! I would recommend dropping it down to 40lbs. I haven't tried tensions below that, but I think you could feasibly go as low as 35lbs. The stringers at Del Ray Beach ATP 250 reported that Mannarino went all the way down to 19lbs for that tournament!
@@TennCom i will try when it arrive at 36/38. Thanks all
Have you tried hybrid of TS and M8? What would you suggest in mains and tensions for mains and crosses. Purchased 1.25 in both.
I have not just would definitely put Sniper in the mains (better ball bite) and M8 in the cross (better snapback)
Have you tried it in the Extreme Tour Auxetic? What tension would you use with this racket? Would 55 be too much?
I haven't and I don't think so. Typically the recommendation is to string M8 extra low because its able to retain control at those tensions. Havent seen many reports of how it plays at higher tensions though.
What racket are you using right now?
I’m using the Iga racket but still not dialed in. Sometimes I hit great shots but not consistently as I know I can play.
Tried the pure aero vs but found a small sweet spot and stiff.
I’m planning on getting and extreme tour and play side by side with the Iga for a couple of months.
I’ll try m8 and cyclone tour on both.
Also will be checking new vcore 98 and pure aero 98.
@@adriellepretre9047 Im in between the 360+ Extreme Tour and the Auxetic Extreme MP. I haven't quite found a weight/string setup that makes the Extreme MP work yet. If I had to play a tournament, I'd still use the old Extreme MP, but that may not last for long.
Hi, I have ordered a set of the Grapplesnake Tour M8 1.25 for my Wilson Blade v9 18x20, I’ve been reading A LOT about the string…. In terms of tension, what would u recommend for this racket? I’ve played with 4G at 46lbs and loved that, I’m hoping I’ll still get the same playability, control and tension maintenance but with a little extra pop than 4G with Tour M8, would u say I’ll get this? And was thinking of going maybe 48lbs? What u think? Thanks again
Yeah I think you'll get everything you are looking for. Even if you stick at 46lbs I think you'll find enough predictability and spin at the lower tension. Plus, you'll be able to compared apples to apples a little better if you hold tension constant.
@@TennCom the only reason I was thinking of bumping up to 48lbs is because I’ve heard a lot about an initial tension drop but then it’s great, just wondered if it’s maybe a greater drop initially than 4G so that’s why I thought I’d go up to 48 over 46 for that reason? But I’ve heard other people saying the tension drop isn’t bad and it’s brilliant….
Any thoughts on the above?
Hi! I wanna know your suggestion about at what tension do u recommend me to start with this string? For ur reference, i used to string my prince phantom 100P with tour bite soft @50 lbs. Thx!
I would just start with your normal tension. This should help you isolate the variables so you can feel the difference between the strings.
@@TennCom Thx u!
Did you try game changer? I liked it also. Good feel and spin.
Yes and I agree with your assessment, though I also felt control and consistency were above average compared to other extremely shaped strings
I am an advanced player, that played DII tennis and am now coaching. I want a softer string because of all of the playing I do I tend to get some arm discomfort after using really stiff strings (used to use gamma Moto) and I’m really interested in grapplesnake as I love Brands like this and they give a stringers discount. I can’t try all of there strings for money and times sake but I’m scared that M8 is going to play like rpm which I hate, and I am going to get 2 reels. But I cannot decide between tour sniper, game changer, or the neon dust half set hybrids. I can get 2 different reels but wanted to know what you think would be the best.
M8 is not like RPM at all. It’s way softer and there’s no coating so it plays better longer. RPM has silicone coating which wears off and then the string become harsh and dead. I would look at M8 or Alpha. Would avoid Neon Hybrid due to it being very annoying to string (I assume you string a lot of racquets). Tour Sniper is also excellent but it would give you much for free which can be helpful for coaching.
@@TennCom have you tried game changer? I was a huge fan of hyper g back in the day and it seems very similar? Thank you for the reply as well!
I love Game Changer. I think it’s the string that I’ve hit the most spin with and I find that it plays more consistently than Hyper G despite the edge. It is very sharp though so if you are stringing other peoples racquets with it, it may not be best.
My favourite reviewers, keep up the good work. I recently got M8 and Alpha shipped to Australia and can’t wait to try them out.
thanks so much for your support!
Quick question, tennisnerd described this string as being particularly stiff, but you guys talk a lot about the ball pocketing. Is it the quick "bottoming out" sensation that you guys noticed that he might be referring to?
I’m not sure what he’s feeling. Simon never felt the bottoming out thing. Only I felt that and only at low tension. Nothing else about my experience made me think the string we stiff at all
@@TennCom thanks!
How would you compare this with Alu power & poly tour pro?
Its significantly softer feeling that ALU. ALU has a crispness that most other strings cannot replicate and thats still true here. Spin is better in M8 than both PTP and Alu. PTP plays more dead and I think that the directional control is a little better, but I find it to be too muted and spin is poor. M8 is definitely the softest of the 3 and has the best playability duration. I'd pick M8 all day long if shipping costs are reasonable for you.
Nice 👍🏼 what tension do you recommend in a extreme tour ? 50 lps
If you get the 16 gauge we tried here, 48lbs. In 17g, then 52lbs.
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Thanks for your support and understanding!
Hi Tenncom been following u for a long time now. Can this M8 string up as a hybrid with a multi string? Mains or crosses is better in your opinion? Thank u TennCom 😊
You definitely could, I'd probably do multi mains, as I prefer the playability, but I'm not sure how much M8 would add in the crosses compared to something cheaper. If comfort is a concern, probably better to use gut or a full bed of M8 at 40lbs or less.
how is tour bite powerful but so stiff, i feel like this doesn't make sense?
How does it compare with Poly Tour Pro n your opinion?
M8 is softer and has much better spin. The snapback is better for you get better ball pocketing too. PTP has a more muted feel, which I don't personally love because its too disconnected for me in most new racquets. Directional control and stringbed consistency is better on PTP though. I prefer M8, though PTP is one of my fav round polys
you guys try tier one black knight?
Yeah I found it to be more muted and soft than I like. Ended up feeling mushy and the tension maintenance was not up to the standard that I expected from a poly in 2022. I prefer Tour Status in the Tier 1 line up.
I've been considering M8 for a little while now. But after watching your review here, I'm not so sure I want to. If you're saying strings like Tour Bite, Hyper G, and Lynx Tour are more powerful than M8. Then in my opinion M8 is garbage because those strings are really low powered. I guess that would mean that my current string "Alu Power" provides about 10 times the amount of power that M8 provides. Very disappointing to hear this.
Sounds like you could use some multifilament lol
You should try prince diablo. Inexpensive, soft poly. Really would like to hear your review
I tried a few demos sets when I worked at Courtside and I absolutely hated it. Really soft, yes, but way too muted and plasticky feeling for me. Also it lost tension after like 1 hit which I was not happy with.
How would you rate Tourna ‘Premium’ Poly? $50ish a reel seems too good to be true for ‘premium’ strings!? 😂
I actually reviewed those: ruclips.net/video/XgYxWIdMXH4/видео.html and was pleasantly surprised, though still not useable
M8 1.25 is S Tier and that is final.
With all due respect. Have you consider trying Luxilon 4G ?
I’ve tried 4G recently for the first time and I liked it a lot. M8 feels softer but 4G has better control IMO. The price of 4G is not my favourite which is why it took my so long to try it.
@@TennCom and next question is if price was not an issue which one……?
@@TheodorosKolokotronis799 honestly it would depend on the racquet I think. If it was using something a little launchy-er and more muted (Pure Aero), it would be 4G 1.30. In my Extreme Tour, it’s M8 1.25. In the Extreme MP, it’s M8 1.30.
@@TennCom off topic. I play tested all the racquets you mention. By far my favourite was new pure aero but unfortunately it doesn’t help on the one hand backhand…. you have to follow through. Extreme mp is a real upgrade with a more solid feel but still thick for my liking and felt slower to swing than previous extreme mp. Power and spin was down too like PA23 but now it has more substance. New extreme tour still lacks free power. I hope new strike to have lower SW like project one and finally connected feel to return and be less muted. I am disappointed on the current 98 inch offerings….. V8 for example become soooo low powered. Wilson keeps screwing blade after V6….. i am waiting a whiteout to test.
@@TheodorosKolokotronis799 I agree with all of your opinions hahaha
I really want to try Tour Sniper & M8, since watching your videos and Tennisnerd, i got tempted to try. But unfortunately nobody sell it in Malaysia. Maybe i just need to be the only guy that sell it 😂. Maybe another 5 years. Lol.
You guys are one of my favorite youtubers. I do agree with you regarding Firestorm, one of my favorite string also. Another favorite is Solinco Revolution, and i really curious about it playability compared to Tour Sniper & M8. Hope you can consider it! Haha
I havent tried Revolution yet either. I have heard mostly good things but its relatively old and I feel like poly's have really progressed year over year since they came out 20 years ago. It scored oddly high in a lot of categories in the TWU string database so I'm actually quite interested in it
@@TennCom Yeah, its been over 10years since it came out and i’ve been using it for quite sometimes. I really like it a lot, but currently it had cost my arm. Haha. Now i’m playing with multis for a while, once heal i will go back to Revolution and Firestorm. Yeah, TWU rate it quite high and i agree with them, it had control, power and spin. So please TC, please try Revolution later and then compare it Tour Sniper & M8. Looking forward to it!
@mohamadrazin221 , have you found a stringer with grapplesnake? I have a list of 4 stringers in Klang Valley, and one of them is a distributor.
I thought M8 couldn't possibly be as good as the reviews. It is. Strung in a DR98 at 45lbs and it's so solid and predictable. In contrast I tried their liquid neon hybrid and I wasn't taken as much at all. It's not grapplesnake, it's tour M8. Trying sniper next!
Maybe you should try it before saying it isn't as good. It has almost universal glowing reviews, maybe it's just great?
Thanks for backing us up. I was pretty skeptical as well and really doubted the claims that I'd read online. I have absolutely no idea what about the poly-formula makes this string different, but I think it as unique as other weird strings like RPM Power or LXN Smart.
RPM Power is pretty unique. I don’t think these anything like it. M8 feels much more “normal” whereas Rpm P has hybrid qualities with launch angle yet probably the best control in any string.
M8. Imo no poly launches lower than RPM Power
Just haven’t had time to do string reviews until recently. I’ll be talking about it at some point either in a poly hybriding video if not the standalone review
Since tour M8 comes in 1.25mm now, do you think the smaller gauge will be better in a Ezone DR98? Or would it be better to go for the 1.30mm?
Hey genuine question, is this a sponsored video? Do you have any sponsorship arrangement with Grapplesnake? I thought i’ve seen you mention that before. Seems like some conflict of interest there
This comment might get deleted, but I agree with Chanandler. This seems to hurt your credibility recommending something and them offering a link to the same product.
It goes on in every channel like this, tennis nerd included, it is a conflict of interest,no? Like a fake advertisement?
Yep, and it's the only channel recommending Grapplesnake, everywhere else it's hardly mentioned in the poly debate, certainly not in the top 10
Tell you what paid or not paid, tour M8 is the a great string. Everything they say is great and you can drop tension if you string high. I switched to this string a few months ago and its perfect. They make a 17g now
@@highflying19 ive also ordered it, just to see, will string it next week, if its good im gonna make a comment here
M8 is pronounced MATE!
M8 not 8M
@@d-weezy yeah thats what I mean't
Sounds like a cheaper 4G no ?
4G feels a bit firmer and crisper which better control imo. M8 softer and slicker.
@@TennCom ok. Maybe more like a 4g soft so ? Or even softer ?
I haven’t tried 4G Soft. I don’t really both with Luxilon strings because of the price.
Its not that cheap tbh. A reel cost me $190 plus i was dinged with $40duty.
M8 is a very different type of string. Holds tension and is more comfortable than 4G (which is love) and im not afraid to swing full.
@@fingersm very interest(r)ing ! Thx for that comment. I will definitively test it.
"Whose bread I eat: His song I sing".
for a moment i thought you were wearing a wig at the beginning
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Selling 188m of Tour M8. One reel, minus one stringing. Comment for more info
Hi r0baa. If it's 1.30 gauge and you're in the USA, I'm interested.
@@outcometechnology its 1.30. Not in US but can send for 145 dollars shipping included.
I’ve been a fan of you content since day one but I think these bias, sponsored videos are destroying your reputation as a trustworthy reviewer.
Assuming you've read the pinned comment on how our relationship with Grapplesnake works, how do you think we should proceed then? I really value your opinion and want to grow the channel as much as possible. I think the only way to do this is to produce more videos at a higher quality. More videos and more quality requires more money. At this time, Google/RUclips Ad revenue is not even close to being enough to produce 1 racquet review per month. We are lucky enough that some viewers do donate via PayPal and Super Thanks, as well as the racquet consultation service I debuted on the last video, but its not enough to actually grow the channel. I am open to other solutions beyond sponsored content, but it really seems like the only thing that keeps RUclips channels alive.
There are numerous other very positive reviews of this string fyi so don’t see how this ruins anyone reputation
You bunch of misleading con man , u do these videos with the intent of making money so of course you will be doing it for brands that are willing to pay you.
bunch of 3.0s talking fancy terms about strings . Your tennis is so average whatever strings you use wouldn’t make a difference.
I go to sleep every night on a pile of money
@ there’s no pile of money to be made on tennis string affiliates . Have fun being poor
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