Mistake When Drawing Torso - Quick Art Tips

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  • Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
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    In this video I go over a common mistake artists make when drawing the torso.

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  • @Viv1992
    @Viv1992 16 дней назад +2294

    The difficult part is mostly everything soft between the ribcage and hips, determining that and how it behaves is difficult for me.

    • @That_One_MF_0
      @That_One_MF_0 16 дней назад +66

      Same for me too, somtimes It's too rigid, sometimes its too soft

    • @hugoruix_yt995
      @hugoruix_yt995 16 дней назад +8

      100%

    • @bottomtext593
      @bottomtext593 16 дней назад +6

      this

    • @mari_golds-bleeding-ink
      @mari_golds-bleeding-ink 15 дней назад +3

      Same

    • @floreroafloreril1458
      @floreroafloreril1458 15 дней назад +24

      I had the same problem for a long while. What helped most was learning the position and behaviour of both the external abdominal oblique and the inguinal ligament, and then I could abstract them both below the ribcage and going into the groin.

  • @AguaSentry196
    @AguaSentry196 16 дней назад +2107

    Oh this doesnt look that bad though!
    (Loops)
    *HOLY SHI-*

    • @BARFBAR
      @BARFBAR 15 дней назад +34

      fr

    • @divyanshsingh8830
      @divyanshsingh8830 15 дней назад +25

      Yeah, there are real people have longer torso

    • @PA1NBRU5H
      @PA1NBRU5H 13 дней назад +5

      I went TUH

    • @owinlaa
      @owinlaa 12 дней назад +7

      @@divyanshsingh8830not that long though, unless there is a medical condition

    • @divyanshsingh8830
      @divyanshsingh8830 12 дней назад +3

      @@owinlaa actually this looks pretty normal and there are real body shape like this even in healthy state.

  • @jakezepeda1267
    @jakezepeda1267 16 дней назад +776

    My favorite part of these is when It loops back and I see how big of a difference the change makes.

  • @N25fan4life
    @N25fan4life 16 дней назад +882

    That first one looked like when cats stretch

  • @Anime4Music
    @Anime4Music 16 дней назад +400

    I don't see the problem with the first one, it can be an stylistic choice
    *loops back*
    BURN IT!! Arg!! My eyes!!

    • @thuthaopham2404
      @thuthaopham2404 15 дней назад +9

      I cackled at this lol

    • @moon1749
      @moon1749 7 дней назад +1

      Yeah, I physically cringed at that for a moment.
      But at the same time, what if the character had another set of arms for whatever reason? Wouldn't the torso _have_ to be longer to accomodate that so it's not squished?

  • @unknownuser3512
    @unknownuser3512 16 дней назад +155

    Not another post traumatic episode please 😔

    • @frostandfire7164
      @frostandfire7164 16 дней назад +7

      DAAAAVIIIIIDDD

    • @Jaibliss_agent87
      @Jaibliss_agent87 13 дней назад +5

      LITERALLY

    • @blacklynx2526
      @blacklynx2526 13 дней назад +5

      So what do you wanna do, what’s your point-of-view…🎶😭

    • @carlosnava1471
      @carlosnava1471 10 дней назад +3

      ​​@@blacklynx2526🎶There's a party soon, do you wanna go?-oh 🎶😢

  • @DandelionCorp
    @DandelionCorp 16 дней назад +45

    Watching this channel gives such a development. From "oh it's not that bad- OH MY GOD" to "wow that's so bad- OH MY GOD"

  • @ceoofmsahqjoeyjoester1291
    @ceoofmsahqjoeyjoester1291 16 дней назад +50

    I have problems with this currently and it is frustrating to try to get correctly. This helps alot! Thank you again for showing it off!

  • @finger2836
    @finger2836 15 дней назад +27

    I think that, the amount of people commenting on how bad the first drawing looks AFTER the video loops, is a good testament to how more artists *should* tweak their proportions little by little and compare with what they had beforehand. Perspective is quite a neat thing, and we can get caught up in our own perceptions of what something looks like that we think it *initially* looks fine, until we actually test how it would look in another way.

    • @yesno7889
      @yesno7889 9 дней назад

      Only problem with that is if you don’t have a tablet and have to work with pen and paper

  • @InestimableFlorivore
    @InestimableFlorivore 16 дней назад +54

    Could you do one on the general size of the ribcage ? I always make it too big and don't understand how it attaches to the soft part of the torso

    • @excaliblader
      @excaliblader  16 дней назад +17

      I'll keep it in mind

    • @bocahdongo7769
      @bocahdongo7769 16 дней назад +1

      ​@@excalibladerIt's still hard to determined ribcage ratio for me.
      Like if I tried to trace from female model, it always has different ratio

    • @fairuzzain8821
      @fairuzzain8821 16 дней назад +1

      ​@@excaliblader i have the same problem too

    • @pesverse290
      @pesverse290 15 дней назад

      ​@@bocahdongo7769 Bro....make the ribcage 1 & 1/2 head tall and the length of upperbody from opening of ribcage to pubic bone is 2 & 1/2 heads tall or 3 heads( if your character is tall ). Also the greater trocanther lines up with the pubic bone. So from ASIS to the line of greater trocanther the gesture of glutes medius will come inward then curve outward once it crosses it depending on how thicc u want your female character to be.

    • @bocahdongo7769
      @bocahdongo7769 15 дней назад

      @@pesverse290 how's the proper ribcage wide and thickness?
      In ribcage height unit. Not head unit.

  • @IARESMART8
    @IARESMART8 10 дней назад +5

    (Sees Lucy)
    (Thinks about the song)
    Well, time to fight Smasher again...

  • @qoolaid11
    @qoolaid11 16 дней назад +56

    I really want to stay at your house

    • @susietyinhabitor526
      @susietyinhabitor526 16 дней назад +7

      😭

    • @armourvgyt
      @armourvgyt 15 дней назад +2

      SO WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO WHAT'S YOUR POINT OF VIEW THERE'S A PARTY SOON, DO YOU WANNA GO... *sobs*

    • @dankertester
      @dankertester 15 дней назад

    • @mfi6522
      @mfi6522 14 дней назад

      Youre right mom! I am on top of arasaka tower!😭😭😭😭

  • @MsMacintosh
    @MsMacintosh 7 дней назад +1

    I HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH THIS FOR YEARS.THANK YOU SO MUCH AAAAA

  • @cnkaiser1
    @cnkaiser1 16 дней назад +70

    Those are some good (cough) torsos (cough) 😳

  • @Nanadingol
    @Nanadingol День назад

    Still amazes me how a man can draw with one hand, that is PURE talent ✨⭐️

  • @radiogiraffe
    @radiogiraffe 16 дней назад +1

    Thanks for this tip! Been struggling so much with this specific issue. Makes it much easier to understand why my drawings look off.

  • @1ogic948
    @1ogic948 15 дней назад +4

    Hm, I think the reason this one doesn’t look that bad (at least at first) is that you could realistically be drawing a character that tall? It’s just that proportions would mean the ribcage should be taking on some of that height as well?

  • @Pyotr-iv1dz
    @Pyotr-iv1dz 15 дней назад

    I remember a similar video of yours, it was the mistake when drawing the waist making it too long

  • @oni96
    @oni96 15 дней назад +1

    I was wondering when this mistake would've joined the common mistake series.This is a mistake I have been doing often since I started drawing full bodies just recently I am figuring out how to avoid it. This trick will help me solve the problem without overthinking, thanks!

  • @ivandewa1183
    @ivandewa1183 16 дней назад +5

    Ah, not lucy from cyberpunk
    Im done with the trauma bro 😢

    • @ScrippyDippy_
      @ScrippyDippy_ 14 дней назад

      It's ok man trauma team can't save use from this one

  • @HEDGEHOGCREATOR
    @HEDGEHOGCREATOR 14 дней назад

    You know what, I'll say it, I'm glad I got to see this. I spite my inability to regulate my torso size so much, I can't help, but notice that I stretch up a character like taffy when drawing them. It frustrates me so much, thank you for elaborating on this difficulty, I've been looking for a proper fix to practice and I'll be trying this out. I look forward to more tips.

  • @SayukiMiamora
    @SayukiMiamora 15 дней назад

    Watching your videos since years and every video i ask my self what another wrong thing he will talk about,you always have a new advice.keep going so much love❤

  • @NebulaAccount
    @NebulaAccount 16 дней назад +6

    man I love me some torso

  • @jospelgar
    @jospelgar 9 дней назад

    This happens to me all the time! This will help me a lot, thanks!

  • @StardustZee
    @StardustZee 15 дней назад

    I experience the opposite! I make the torso too short and i still struggle to fix it

  • @vraxos9220
    @vraxos9220 12 дней назад

    First time one of these videos actually helped

  • @dianheart2243
    @dianheart2243 13 дней назад

    I've been waiting so long for this one. I didn't think to divide it in halves, I always thought in thirds but with the middle third being much shorter.

  • @ZonkedPear
    @ZonkedPear 16 дней назад

    These videos are helping me out a lot

  • @icantcallmyselfsmart
    @icantcallmyselfsmart 10 дней назад

    bro shattered my entire world perception with that loop

  • @Junosensei
    @Junosensei 15 дней назад

    The length of the clavicle to the tenth rib cage bone being about the size of the bottom half of the torso is also a guideline of how tall the clavicle to the top of the head should be, too. This creates thirds, which also very conveniently tend to make up roughly half the body, meaning you can use that same length measurements to space out the legs, too. Legs can still be varied lengths if you know how, but it's still a good standardization of the rules.

  • @Sombody123
    @Sombody123 15 дней назад

    Now this one is a classic.

  • @Iniqui-tous
    @Iniqui-tous 8 дней назад

    Omg ive been struggling with this alot tysm❤❤❤❤❤

  • @degrees7097
    @degrees7097 15 дней назад

    how did I never realise that it can be this simple

  • @cannoliwavestudios2817
    @cannoliwavestudios2817 13 дней назад

    I make this mistake a lot. Thank you ❤

  • @ssjmiroc3984
    @ssjmiroc3984 15 дней назад +2

    Oda: And I took that personally 😋 🖊️

  • @flamingoodness4923
    @flamingoodness4923 15 дней назад

    The crazy part about this video is I’m literally learning how to draw the torso rn and the timing couldn’t be any better 😭

  • @LuvkyChan
    @LuvkyChan 14 дней назад

    Something i tend to do is making the torso short instead of long.

  • @McAwful
    @McAwful 15 дней назад

    I felt my spine shatter watching that loop

  • @stopmotiongamer1728
    @stopmotiongamer1728 16 дней назад

    Thank you excal finally a tip I feel is going to help me. Have been making long torsos. Long bois

  • @sindelscat9336
    @sindelscat9336 16 дней назад

    Yeah, I tend to have that problem as well as making the head too big sometimes lol

  • @SCF721
    @SCF721 15 дней назад

    Brizz aint battled at all and this by itself should put him on the stock drop list cause turning down 100K is insanity

  • @pesverse290
    @pesverse290 15 дней назад

    I think this problem occurs also when people don't tilt the simplified form of pelvis properly wrt to ribcage. That leads to placing the forms of external obliques, erectus abs, serratus & gluteus medius all wrong.
    Also this proportion issue in perspective gets solved practicing/observing numerous poses daily that builds up that intuitive guess & decision making ability.

  • @astraamarante6233
    @astraamarante6233 8 дней назад

    This doesn't account for stylization, but the most important thing to remember when drawing no matter the style is the ratio of each part to each other. As long as it's believable and can make sense, "I like the way this looks" is a good enough reason for making a stylistic design choice.

  • @Skyeleafe
    @Skyeleafe 12 дней назад

    I used to make this mistake. If you made this video back in late 2023/Early 2024, I would've gladly watched it ciuntless times until i fixed it

  • @stevsteelen
    @stevsteelen 16 дней назад

    i knew what i was doing was correct! I hate how i was fighting myself of if i was getting better or worse the whole of last week

  • @Cassette484
    @Cassette484 11 дней назад +1

    Its probably a good thing that the first image didn't look right to me.

  • @TermoPlays
    @TermoPlays 15 дней назад

    The way I fix this mistake is push up the bottom half and look at whether it looks good or not. Repeat until done.

  • @doogong
    @doogong 14 дней назад

    i usually see the torso subdivided into 3 sections and that's been confusing me on the total length

  • @pascalthedogishere415
    @pascalthedogishere415 11 дней назад

    I have a bad Habit of doing the opposite where the torso is far too short

  • @justallwrong5401
    @justallwrong5401 16 дней назад +1

    Thank you! I've been needing help with this for so long! 🙏
    My only question now is where should we place the tip of the sternum? Like would it go 2/3 or 3/4 of the ribcage?

  • @InmateOmighty
    @InmateOmighty 16 дней назад +2

    I was guilty of this my entire first year of drawing 😭

  • @maxpoweroverdrive
    @maxpoweroverdrive 16 дней назад

    Also, your perspective plays an important role in determining the size of each proportion...

  • @seasong7655
    @seasong7655 15 дней назад

    I'm not torso shaming her. She was born this way.

  • @Lordgust
    @Lordgust 15 дней назад

    I learnt this mistake from drawing too much peaches🤌🤌🤌🤌

  • @Jkirek_
    @Jkirek_ 15 дней назад

    That loop is a Mortal Kombat fatality

  • @Sepzgamin
    @Sepzgamin 11 дней назад

    The hardest part is detecting that typa sht☹️😔

  • @GambeTama
    @GambeTama 16 дней назад

    The moment the video loops is the moment you hear the engineer say "Nope."

  • @renzzxd6475
    @renzzxd6475 16 дней назад

    actually you have really good content about many common mistakes artists make
    but this is also a problem for some people who try or start drawing, sometimes people can be perfectionist when viewing your video content because of correction of common mistakes in artists, this perfectionism is very dangerous. Perfectionism can trigger deep frustration so that the person no longer wants to try this drawing. is the main and common enemy that beginners get when drawing
    I tried to start drawing by drawing random objects that I found on Pinterest to improve my observation skills. At first I was happy because I didn't think about the final result and didn't act as a perfectionista nd that's what made me a little addicted to drawing and that's good. When I saw your video I just asked myself "can I do it like this? in this video?"

  • @tacticslc4805
    @tacticslc4805 15 дней назад

    Reminds me that Lucy will be a playable character in Guilty Gear

  • @quattrokerbecs
    @quattrokerbecs 15 дней назад

    Do you have a short on how to draw tentacles/appendages so that they have depth and don't feel flat or disproportionate?

  • @panahdenah8100
    @panahdenah8100 15 дней назад

    I just draw long torso, and you just know I had this mistake and give advice 😂

  • @eldritchcupcakes3195
    @eldritchcupcakes3195 9 дней назад

    Can you talk about purposeful distortion of this stuff? I have a character who’s disproportionate in the legs, they’re super long, but there’s an actual reason- he’s meant to be a little off if you look closely. Like, his eyes look ever so slightly too large, his arms are a bit too thin and long, and his legs are longer than they should be.

  • @lithing09
    @lithing09 14 дней назад

    I couldn't wait for you to come and clear the cupboard...

  • @xein3086
    @xein3086 16 дней назад

    can you make a tips about drawing head, sometimes when i draw the head too big than the body

  • @prototype014
    @prototype014 11 дней назад

    It didn't look wrong at first, but after a second look, it does look a little too long.

  • @TinLad07
    @TinLad07 13 дней назад

    I’m struggling with just the outline of the pose cause sometimes I make them to small and sometimes to long i can’t find a good measurement

  • @owinlaa
    @owinlaa 12 дней назад

    I always draw it too short on accident, then I don't realise until I've drawn the legs 😭😭

  • @sai_ai__8446
    @sai_ai__8446 15 дней назад

    Unlike some people, i saw the weirdly long torso instantly and saw it doesnt look good.

  • @SentinalSlice
    @SentinalSlice 15 дней назад

    The hard part is the inbetween. I’d like to know what the max and min height that the thinnest part of the waist can occur at.

  • @redundantfridge9764
    @redundantfridge9764 16 дней назад

    Proportions go out the window when you include outliers like Manute Bol.

  • @matiasosella3867
    @matiasosella3867 15 дней назад

    I am definitely very guilty of this particular one.

  • @ThOnlyHamForYou
    @ThOnlyHamForYou 10 дней назад

    My problem is that I tend to make it too short

  • @ahja6
    @ahja6 10 дней назад

    Then there are people who draw the torso too short 😶

  • @wideleczek
    @wideleczek 16 дней назад +1

    I HAVE A QUESTION
    You always say that the horizon line, and vanishing points are on the height of the viewer's eyes
    Soooo how do I know where the third vanishing point is? How far should it be from the viewer?

  • @Ishim_Royalty
    @Ishim_Royalty 13 дней назад

    Meanwhile me, who is obsessed with horror: Whachu say? Torso not long enough? I gotcha, bro

  • @JakeWasAMistake
    @JakeWasAMistake 12 дней назад +1

    My favorite part of these videos is thinking the original pic looks fine and then once I finish the video I realize how disgusting it looks

  • @halimalnami1560
    @halimalnami1560 15 дней назад

    I ALWAYS MAKES THIS MISSTAKE AND SPEND 3 MISN FIXING IT EVERY TIME
    NO AMOUT OF MEASURING OR GUIDELINES HAS FIXED IT

  • @aidielol
    @aidielol 15 дней назад +1

    First: this isn't that bad
    After: oh...

  • @idkbcidk8228
    @idkbcidk8228 12 дней назад

    Ngl usually I’m like “oh this isn’t bad” then he’s just like “nah this is done completely wrong, let me explain why” then I look at the before and after and I’m either like “eh, makes sense.” Or “hmmm, they both look kinda good.”

  • @GodisGood941
    @GodisGood941 12 дней назад

    Some people actually just built long like that

  • @LinhPhung-xk6vv
    @LinhPhung-xk6vv 12 дней назад

    Thanks you 😊

  • @nercanlame
    @nercanlame 11 дней назад

    wait, that doesn't seem so bad
    (looks again)
    HOLY CRAP!!

  • @MetaFanWing
    @MetaFanWing 15 дней назад

    “I’m sorry, she has a serious case of Laffy-Taffy Torso symdrome. Yes, it’s fatal.”

  • @sakiyaki-sashimi
    @sakiyaki-sashimi 11 дней назад

    I’m the opposite lol my torsos are so tiny and then my legs are long af

  • @Childeater2736
    @Childeater2736 15 дней назад

    I like long torsos though, mine are made up of 3 parts for girls and boys, it's just part of my style

  • @Jaibliss_agent87
    @Jaibliss_agent87 13 дней назад +1

    is that Lucy?...
    😭

  • @vaptrain5906
    @vaptrain5906 11 дней назад

    imagine learning how to be good at drawing and get distracted by the teacher's example😂

  • @papoy706
    @papoy706 4 дня назад +1

    how are you always make some normal drawing then show the second normal drawing then make the first one look weird

  • @EeveeVSHoOh
    @EeveeVSHoOh 16 дней назад +1

    Na, my problem is I make it too short XD

  • @obsession9298
    @obsession9298 16 дней назад +11

    under 5s. 💀

  • @milkshrekpasta
    @milkshrekpasta 12 дней назад

    My neurons activated 3 seconds in

  • @Literally_A_Tree
    @Literally_A_Tree 15 дней назад

    As someone who is the first example, I am sad

  • @Rei_Radical
    @Rei_Radical День назад

    I can draw everything...EVERYTHING...

  • @slowpokerodriguez9907
    @slowpokerodriguez9907 15 дней назад

    Imma be real with you, man. I goon to your videos

  • @Unimportant
    @Unimportant 16 дней назад

    I really struggle with connecting the upper part to the lower part. Does anyone have advice or resources on how to twist the torso?

  • @krayn.reinbu
    @krayn.reinbu 15 дней назад +1

    Lucyyyyyy!!!! 💖💗💖💗💖💗💖💗💗💖💗💖💗💗💖💗💖💗💖💗💖💗💖💗💖💗💖💗💖

  • @xXx_kubik-nubik_xXx
    @xXx_kubik-nubik_xXx 15 дней назад

    When it loops I almost hear femur breaker sounds.

  • @pitrek121g
    @pitrek121g 15 дней назад

    First one looks totally like Persona characters proportion 😅

  • @PrimePixelYoutube
    @PrimePixelYoutube 16 дней назад

    You are so good at making bodies😃

  • @catosphera1060
    @catosphera1060 15 дней назад

    my body is like that, i have a long torso