I laughed when you placed Mindi on this list, since I fell for that, as a kid, too. Also, I disagree with Chairman Rose being a huge plot twist, since I saw him being the main villain coming from a mile away.
Yeah! Volo was a bigger shock to me than rose. Especially since for Volo, it was like: "but, but, but----I trusted you! We were friends! And you---you betrayed me!!!!! How dare you!!!!" 💔
This is why I don't trust in-game trading. I hardly ever do that anyways, but I didn't know she should give you an everstone on a evolve by trade pokemon.
I never really thought of Team Skull as evil. They seem to be more young people forced into crime due to economic or social conditions, due to the numerous in game encounters and how the admin speaks to them and about them.
Ok, but the villains of Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs are some of my favourite twist villains in any Pokémon game. You keep meeting these sweet old folks throughout the game, then it turns out they are actually retired master thieves who hired the Pokémon Pinchers to do all the dirty work so they could steal the golden armour of immortality and obtain a flying fortress/superweapon to rule the world. And upon a second playthrough you notice how many times you've actually been feeding information to the enemy through those casual conversations and that's why the Pinchers seemed to always be one step ahead of you. Totally blew my mind. Also Edward blows up Pichu's home island. And it's gone. Just completely wiped off the map. That's also worth a mention.
I truly is wonder sometimes if Cyrus gave his Golbat to someone else to evolve it into a Crobat then gave it back to him. Or he just simply gave it enough affection (false affection) to evolve it into a Crobat because it needs to be stronger to be a more efficient tool.
He viewed Pokemon as tools, yes, but they were also a part of himself and he viewed them as his own power. I don't think he ever treated his Pokemon poorly.
He evolved it the same way we, the players, do. He walks everywhere, and his office is about a block from both the department store and massage parlor.
@@ZeroX7649 That makes sense. If you gonna use a "Tool" it needs to be in working condition to actually be used. *If it ain't broke don't fix it* I suppose
@@blacksheep7741 they are talking about how golbat needs affection to evolve. Cyrus is not an affectionate guy, so how did HE evolve his crobat? He is portrayed as emotionless inn games, so how did someone like him get a friendship evolution? 🤷♀️
I like the theory of Dark Matter being essentially Eternatus in its egg form. With it being just that powerful that it can interact with the world even in egg form.
Guzma has a golf rivalry with Kahili... Okay, let's just disregard everything his mother said about how he won competitions with the move Swagger when she gives you the TM (explaining the trophies) and everything his dad said about how "he tried to knock some sense into his kid, but in the end he was the one who got beat".
I think Meowth can still learn other moves. In journeys when palkia and dialga were rewinding time an alternate version of team rocket was there and that Meowth could use dark pulse even though he can talk
8:33 for what I remember she literally loses to Jessie and James in the team flare arc in the anime so yes there is worst people out there than Jessie and James 😂
10:18 fun fact: in the manga chairman rose is actually much more reasonable with his plan. One thing is that he had staff members all across galar ready to intercept the rampaging dynamax Pokémon before they can become a problem. His only really misstep in his plan was that he legitimately believed the galar nobles when they said that they could stop eternatus which is why rose even carried out this plan. But despite this chairman rose took responsibility by not only fighting eternatus himself but also turn himself in and allowed all of his resources to be used by the main characters to fight Sou, the legendary armament dogs, and prepare for a second fight with eternatus.
Rose´s plan does makes sense though. The energy emitted by the wishing stars is indeed incredibly useful as an energy source and used in many different fields but the wishing stars themselves (that are actually parts of Eternatus that got scattered 3000 years ago after its first defeat) aren´t unlimited. So it was required to recreate the events of the first of the first darkest day in order to ensure that the wishing stars could keep existing in the Galar region. But the experiments and the constant supply of wishing stars required to awake Eternatus also caused its awakening to accelerate every time making it even harder to contain and this why their plan couldn´t be delayed (and it´s also is the reason why you hear explosions through the story everytime you´re near hammerlocke). Rose was developing his plan based on his (incomplete/inaccurate) knowledge of the legend of Galar (the one that talks about how "a hero" was the one who stopped the first darkest day). Because of this, he needed two things: to bring back the darkest day (a.k.a Eternatus) and "a hero" to defeat it (and in current times, this would be Leon, the strongest trainer of the Galar region). Which made Leon´s cooperation an absolutely vital part of his plan. Rose isn´t really a bad person. He loves Galar, had a huge role in his development as a metropolis and has a great eye to find talented people that could help with that growth (Oleana, Leon, Bede, etc). But he does has some really strong ideals. And that´s why the scene where he expels Bede from the gym challenge for destroying the ancient mural is so important. Because is meant to show that Rose cuts associations with ANYONE that goes againts the well being of Galar in some way or another. And just like what happened with Bede, he also got dissapointed with Leon´s actions.Bede not only was the challenger endorsed by Rose, he was his plan B in case Leon refused to take part in his plan. But he lost this plan B the moment he got dissapointed in Bede´s actions and considered him unreliable. Also, the reunion with Leon in Rose Tower wasn´t Rose´s first attempt to convince Leon to participate in the plan. In fact, Oleana´s entire ambush to Leon on his way to the dinner with Hop and the player was their last attempt to get Leon´s cooperation by his own will. To the point where Oleana makes everything in her power to delay your (and Hop´s) arrival to the tower to gain as much time as she could for Rose to convince Leon, even if she herself had to battle againts the player to do it. At the end, this plan failed and Rose got dissapointed with Leon just like he did with Bede but he still needed him for his plan but Rose no longer trusted in Leon´s promises to help with the plan, which is part of why the plan couldn´t be delayed. So given the situation he needed to force Leon to cooperate (by awakening Eternatus in a way that Leon couldn´t ignore: during the final match of the gym challenge). So basically, the experiments caused Eternatus awakening to accelerate making it even harder to contain and this why their plan couldn´t be delayed (and it´s also why you hear explosions through the story everytime you´re near hammerlocke) and their reunion in Rose Tower was Rose´s last attempt to convince him to take part in the plan by his own will since Leon was vital for it. But he refused to take part in the plan for being dangerous so Rose cut associations with him and used the final match to force him to participate since he was still vital for the plan. And only you, the player, thanks to the fact that you went through the gym challenge, Sonia´s research in the places related to the legend and to the discovery of the lost ancient tapestry with the missing part of the legend (that hinted the location of the relics necessary to summon the legendaries that protected Galar), discovered the actual cause of Eternatus defeat 3000 years ago that no one else knew. And with Hop´s help you were able to summon the only ones that could actually defeat Eternatus (Zacian and Zamazenta), just like the two kings (ancestors of Swordward and Shieldbert) did in the past and saved the region (while also ensuring the future of Galar with the wishing stars being scattered once again through the region). Sorry for the ridiculously long comment. I tend to write a lot sometimes XD. But I hope this helps to understand Rose´s plan with Leon and the darkest day and why he did what he did.
He's also got a pathological need to be in the spotlight too. He wants to save Galar both for benevolent purposes and because it would ensure that he would always be a beloved figure in history.
You put the most evil villian in the history of pokemon I actually was wondering if she might be in the list. I'll never forget the evil thing Mindy did.
I really wanna see N and Malamar in the anime again. N because he’s my favorite, and Malamar because it said it would return in the future, but it hasn’t yet
7:51: Lol imagine you're walking on the rubble of the town and you just hear "help me" beneath you. Also, raise your hand if you think some idiot's gonna let him out.
Another fun fact about Ghetsis: His Hydreigon has a friendship value of zero, while the rest of his team has their standard friendship value. To my knowledge, it's the only Pokemon you fight with a specific friendship value of zero, while being owned by a Trainer.
The Aether Foundation and Wicke aren't here despite being with Lusamine and Faba since they have different goals in mind. Wicke and the Foundation wants to help Pokémon while Lusamine wants to capture them for her own gain. No idea what Faba's deal is in all of this, but he's up to something alright.
On the one hand I'm impressed that you included some of my personal faves like Lawrence, Domino, and Iron Mask Marauder. On the other hand... ...Molly Hale, Mitsumi, Evil Togepi, Grey, Black, Bashou, Buson, Tyson (who's even seen in the background of Sebastian's segment), Io, Go-Rock Quads, the other members of the Socitea, the Miss Fortunes, Kamado, Poképark Darkrai and his followers, Poképark Mew (yes, Mew is the antagonist of a game!), Mr Kincaid, Wheeler (shown during Blake Hall's segment), Red Eyes (the ACTUAL first character to try and kill you), Blue Eyes, Purple Eyes, Dark Rust, Arlo, Sierra, Cliff, Wicke, Bede, Sordward, Shieldbert, Venus, Trudly, Folly, Ardos, Eldes, Callahan (ok maybe I'm the only one who considers him a bad guy, but everything bad that happens in that movie is because he never stops LYING), Goone, Galen, first movie Mewtwo... Yeah, some of those omissions are a bit strange.
That Nugget isn't the only held item with no effect an NPC has. In Platinum's Pokémon Mansion, you can fight Rich Boy Liam and Lady Celeste, where their Blissey is holding a Rare Candy, which also has no effect in battle. Another Fact about Lawrence III is he's never referred to by name in the whole movie.
I have to say that Edward is a terrifying villain. On one hand, he mentions being a doctor with no evil intent. On the other hand, he casually Death Star'd Dolce Island as a _statement_ (which probably killed a ton of Pokémon) and casually threatened to do the same to Renbow Island. Seriously, the Rangers are talking about the voices of Oblivia rising up against him and he's just: "If that's so, I'll let you hear the real voices of Oblivia. I'm afraid they'll probably be screams, though."
Honestly I'm surprised he didn't bring up Purple Eyes. Purple Eyes ended up being the true villain of the game as he not only took control over the Golden Armor from Edward and tried to rule the world using Mewtwo, in the post game, he got even MORE evil by trying to have Arceus destroy all humanity period.
How do you figure Rose was the biggest plot twist? They over focused on him which told you he was the evil guy. Same thing they did for the leader of Team Flare.
Some other tidbits of trivia: - There are a couple of other NPCs that have Pokemon holding nuggets. In Ruby Sapphire and Emeralds on Route 104 there are the Rich Boy and Lady trainers who have zigzagoons holding nuggets. (Why is doubly hilarious because if they are holding items they can't even use their signature pickup ability) They give a lot of money on defeat AND use full restores on their level 7 or something Zigzagoons to show off how much money they have, which I always found funny. I remember battling them repeatedly by using a pokemon with the coin amulet and then switching in a Pokemon with theif to steal their nugget and farm money. - In the ORAS remakes, Maxie's room has a decorative boat colored in red whose description says something like "it looks old, but is well kept". Why a boat and they didn't put something in his room like a rock collection or something more "like" him? Did Gamefreak get lazy? That first strikes you as strange by someone who should not like the sea as Maxie, but since we know that they are pretty much old-friends-turned-enemies (and even were in the same team, rumored to be Team Rocket), it's probably intentional and an old gift he got from Archie that he didn't get rid off. - Still in ORAS, Shelly's room in Alpha Sapphire has a picture of her and Archie as kids, together with Jirachi, which is also a little reference to the Pokemon Special/Adventures manga.
Another thing you forgot to mention about Koga is that he helped restore the health of his golbat in red and blue by cutting his wrist and letting his Pokémon drink his blood. It was brutal, and I was NOT ready for that.
5:45 In Spanish she's called Venus because that planet is linked to femininity and she's a female. Otherwise she'd be called Marte (Mars in Spanish), which is a planet linked to masculinity and it may create some confusion
For No.32, the fact that these characters are 27 years old might be a reference to 'the 27 club'. A theory around young musicians who die, all happen to die age 27, examples are Jimi Hendrix, Amy Winehouse and Kurt Cobain. However, a musician is statistically more likely to die age 55 and other famous musicians that died young, died different ages, 2pac being one, died age 25.
12:31 So what is it? I've never seen one before, no one has but I'm guessing it's a white hole A white hole? Every action has an equal and opposite reaction, a black hole sucks time and matter out of the universe, a white hole returns it. So that thing's spewing time back into the universe?
Oh wow......that's a new explanation for the golf clubs, but sadly I feel the whole...abuse theory is alot more likely, especially with how gamefreak loves to hide more adult/dark themed lore within their games
The legends being genderless is probably for attract to not work,cuz in each and every canon Multiple legends are referred with gender in some way or form For example,zacian who is said to be zamazenta's sister in the dex
Wes might be the only Game Protagonist that was part of a Evil Team but in other medias there are others Rosa(or Whitey in the Manga) the female player character in B2W2 was a member of Team Plasma in the manga.
That fact that he also supposedly always loses to her is also referenced by their type specialties: Guzma uses bug type Pokemon, which are weak the flying type Pokemon that Kahili owns
Hey dobs big fan did awhile I love your animated skits and find you really entertaining hope you’re doing. Quick question will you stream agin in twitch ?
#64: Since others have already mentioned the story behind the golf clubs and trophies, I’ll talk about the poses. The body language, combined with characterization, makes Guzma and Khalil’s poses totally different. Guzma’s squat is heavily associated with delinquents and thugs in Japanese media, while Khalil’s crouch is how golfers visually line up a putt.
Gengar from Mystery Dungeon is the rival from my childhood. He's such a jerk and the game made me really invested into wanting to kick his ass. But the first time I played it, I lost the Waterfall TM in a Dungeon, so I couldn't do the postgame. When I looked it up years later, I learned that Gengar is the human in the legend, and my mind was blown.
Fun fact: Team Rocket's Meowth's episode where they tell his back story reveal that he is the ONLY Meowth that can walk on two feet and speak like humans in the Pokémon world, he learned it to impress a love interest. But later Nintendo made all other Meowth stand when canonically they didn't.
10:06 no it’s fucking not. The second I saw his face in the opening goddamn movie of the game I said out loud he’s gonna be the villain bruh it was so fucking obvious
Man, volo was the biggest plot twist in the movie, cuz before the red sky came in legends arceus it was not even predictable that he is gonna be evil. Even after that it was hard to tell if he gonna turn out that.
10:28 There is also an NPC whose Pokémon are holding Nuggets in the postgame of FRLG: in Lost Cave (near Five Island) there's an NPC called Lady Selphy, she has 2 Persians who are both holding Nuggets.
Volo was the biggest plot twist in my opinion. I never expected that guy to betray me and when you are hoping that the fight was finished with him there are 2 extra battles left to completely beat him.
10:33, technically false but an easy one to mistake, in diamond pearl and/or platinum, after you do the 5 clefairy battles in the set amount of turns, the rich kids have a blissey holding a rare candy.
The fact that you mentioned team go rocket and couldn't find a fact about arlo sierra and cliff is a crime that makes you number 1 on everyone's hitlist
In my school vr game 00 goalius is counted as a villain so here's a fact about him he is the only known ultra beast that beaten arcius in combat and is the oldest ultra beast in existence at a whopping 5.6 billion years old
He should have brought up Sabrina’s ability to mass create structures through mister Mines wall illusions. A tactic that gets used by crystal in the emerald arc and one of the gym leaders during the X and Y arc.
I'm convinced masked trainer is the real mc. Pikachu can fight legendries, but Delibird??? and against a "bigger" "better" bird? that's plot armor at its finest.
ngl is a bit surprised that their was no mention about dr. namba from pokemon has the same voice actor as weevil underwood from yugioh just would've thought that be a fun fact to add tbh
Unless I missed it, I think we're missing the trio from GO, but I doubt they have enough info for a video. Arlo, Cliff, and Sierra are pretty interesting design wise
@@Dougbro1 I guess Dobbs will have material for a part two if there's more spinoff games/anime , video games , and more Manga content in the future. Gen 9 hopefully will have some interesting characters
Giovanni: In addition to Team Rocket, Giovanni had other business exploits of various legitimacy. The most notable one is Pokemon Land from the Anime, a theme park featuring giant Pokemon robots that could actually use moves... yeah, probably a bad idea in hindsight. Anything Manga Related: The manga is its own continuity and should be treated as such. Jessie: Jessie's last name is commonly assumed to be Miyamoto. James: James is the one who comes up with all the various costumes that Team Rocket uses, and is a cosplayer by hobby. Also, it's kinda hinted at that James is genderfluid. Meowth: Meowth's ability to walk bipedally is stated to be unique to him in the anime, however in the games Meowth is almost always portrayed as bipedal. Colress: In X and Y, a backpacker at the Standing Stones south of Geosenge Town mentions that Colress told him about how the stones can channel energy. Volo: He's the descendent of the last remaining survivors of an ancient civilization in Sinnoh/Hissui that was struck down by Arceus. This explains his motives as well. Lysandre: His goals are actually different depending on whether you're playing X or Y. In X, his goal is to lock the world in a static state of endless beauty. In Y, he views himself as the world's protector, seeking to strike down all that threatens what he sees as beauty. He's insane either way, but he's less of a monster and more of a well intended extremist in Y. Guzma: The golf clubs aren't Guzma's, and the trophies show extensive Pokeball iconography and don't resemble golf trophies. I'll leave it at that. But anyway, until BDSP, Guzma was the strongest bug-type specialist in any Pokemon game, and he's still the strongest main-storyline bug-type specialist. Greevil: Greevil was a last minute addition to Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness. Originally, it was planned to have _Wes_ as the chief executive of the Cypher Syndicate, but that was dumbed out when Satoshi Tajiri ordered them to change it. Satoshi claimed that making the protagonist of Coliseum the main villain of XD: Gale of Darkness would "negate the player's feeling of achievement after beating Coliseum". Honestly, if they kept Wes in XD, it would have been by far the biggest plot twist in the entire franchise. Mirror B.: Mirror B. is the only character in the Pokemon franchise to have two completely different unique battle themes that aren't remixes of each other. His first theme from Coliseum is a Latin Dance song, while his XD Gale of Darkness theme is heavily influenced by Disco. The ace trainer with an Axew on Route 8 from Pokemon X and Y: This trainer is a villain for having a first form pseudolegendary that knows dragon rage early enough in the game for it to 2-shot anything you have. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if her sole reason for existing is to try and force the player to use a fairy type.
•(14:21) Another fact abot Alva!(He's my favourite Pokemon Villain of All time): Alva's Name Comes from 19th Centry inventor Thomas Edison; Edison's Full name Was Thomas Alva Edison,.Un Which Alva's Name is! Alva is a name That also Means White(Last time i check), Which in turn could be a reference to be His Shiny Mega Gengar!
Another fun fact about Ghetsis: his Hydreigon in BW has the perfect type coverage to singlehandedly wipe out N’s team, legendary included
And because Ghetsis’s relationship with his Pokémon is so terrible, his other Pokémon know frustration.
@@wintertheampharos4725 Actually only his Hydreigon in B2W2 knows Frustration. The move isn’t seen on any other Pokémon or team of his
this is meant to support the idea that Ghetsis had every intention of betraying N in case N won against the player.
@@malareon Precisely!
Oh yes, his illegal underlevelled Hydreigon. Hydreigon's a beast and hard to handle in Gen 5. Even moreso in Black and White 2.
I laughed when you placed Mindi on this list, since I fell for that, as a kid, too.
Also, I disagree with Chairman Rose being a huge plot twist, since I saw him being the main villain coming from a mile away.
Yeah! Volo was a bigger shock to me than rose. Especially since for Volo, it was like: "but, but, but----I trusted you! We were friends! And you---you betrayed me!!!!! How dare you!!!!" 💔
This is why I don't trust in-game trading. I hardly ever do that anyways, but I didn't know she should give you an everstone on a evolve by trade pokemon.
Chairman Rose wasn't a plot twist it was easy to tell
@@mr.mimikyu2342 It was Like First Time I Played The Game I Was Like "Ok This Guy Is Going To Be The Villain Plot Twist"
@@mr.mimikyu2342 Just Like Volo I Was Like Ok "He's Gotta Be A Villain Plot Twist Isn't He"
I never really thought of Team Skull as evil.
They seem to be more young people forced into crime due to economic or social conditions, due to the numerous in game encounters and how the admin speaks to them and about them.
When Gen Z think they gangsta.
Bro team skull was the good guys, everyone else in alola was bad, and I can prove it
@@ScolipedeYT … prove it
remember when that team skull member rapped about something going wrong in life and not being able to pay the bills. Something along those lines
@@thiscallsforboldaction1103 Let's not forget what Po Town was looking like
The golf clubs in Guzma's house are also theorised to be golf clubs that he was beat with as a kid.
Yeah I feel sorry for Guzma being beaten up by his abusing dad everytime that gets 2nd or 3rd place in golf tournaments.
Deer god
It's cannon in game that Guzma that they were abused.
Ok, but the villains of Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs are some of my favourite twist villains in any Pokémon game. You keep meeting these sweet old folks throughout the game, then it turns out they are actually retired master thieves who hired the Pokémon Pinchers to do all the dirty work so they could steal the golden armour of immortality and obtain a flying fortress/superweapon to rule the world. And upon a second playthrough you notice how many times you've actually been feeding information to the enemy through those casual conversations and that's why the Pinchers seemed to always be one step ahead of you. Totally blew my mind.
Also Edward blows up Pichu's home island. And it's gone. Just completely wiped off the map. That's also worth a mention.
This video turned out super well! Well done, Dobbs! It was a pleasure to help put this together.
I truly is wonder sometimes if Cyrus gave his Golbat to someone else to evolve it into a Crobat then gave it back to him. Or he just simply gave it enough affection (false affection) to evolve it into a Crobat because it needs to be stronger to be a more efficient tool.
He viewed Pokemon as tools, yes, but they were also a part of himself and he viewed them as his own power. I don't think he ever treated his Pokemon poorly.
He evolved it the same way we, the players, do. He walks everywhere, and his office is about a block from both the department store and massage parlor.
@@ZeroX7649 That makes sense. If you gonna use a "Tool" it needs to be in working condition to actually be used. *If it ain't broke don't fix it* I suppose
1st of all You don't need to trade you just have to keep getting golbat stronger
@@blacksheep7741 they are talking about how golbat needs affection to evolve. Cyrus is not an affectionate guy, so how did HE evolve his crobat? He is portrayed as emotionless inn games, so how did someone like him get a friendship evolution? 🤷♀️
Imagine if the kid was the final boss of team rocket
Lol
Behold it is I, the boss of teem rocket( but said by a tiny baby )
@@IrisMesenger The Boss Baby
Crime Boss Joey
I like the theory of Dark Matter being essentially Eternatus in its egg form. With it being just that powerful that it can interact with the world even in egg form.
It’s speculated that the broken clubs are due to Guzma’s father being abusive towards him if he didn’t get first prize.
And then Guzma fought back, beating his father with the clubs.
@@AnimeboyIanpower and they had an epic lightsaber duel but with gold clubs and it was epic
@@Door227 I wish I could've seen it!
Guzma has a golf rivalry with Kahili... Okay, let's just disregard everything his mother said about how he won competitions with the move Swagger when she gives you the TM (explaining the trophies) and everything his dad said about how "he tried to knock some sense into his kid, but in the end he was the one who got beat".
The description states that Lusamine is most likely alive under Geosenge Town's rubble instead of Lysandre. 😅
oops, always get their names mixed up haha
@@ethandobbs No worries. Everybody makes mistakes.
If it's X, then Lysandre is buried alive. If it's Y, then he's probably dead.
Imagine a fangame where Mindy is actually the boss of an evil team.
she is the Leader of Team Scammer
She scammed trading pokemon with an everstone to avoid getting their pokemon from evolving
Her final Pokémon? Mega Medicham.
@@chazerulez with 5 Haunters
I thought the broken golf clubs were ment to show that guzma was heavily abused as a kid. I actually thought this was confirmed somewhere.
I think Meowth can still learn other moves. In journeys when palkia and dialga were rewinding time an alternate version of team rocket was there and that Meowth could use dark pulse even though he can talk
i could be wrong but didn't the dark pulse come out of some gun
@@zombiegod34 I believe the gear they were wearing was to prevent them from rewinding like everything else
8:33 for what I remember she literally loses to Jessie and James in the team flare arc in the anime so yes there is worst people out there than Jessie and James 😂
10:18 fun fact: in the manga chairman rose is actually much more reasonable with his plan. One thing is that he had staff members all across galar ready to intercept the rampaging dynamax Pokémon before they can become a problem. His only really misstep in his plan was that he legitimately believed the galar nobles when they said that they could stop eternatus which is why rose even carried out this plan. But despite this chairman rose took responsibility by not only fighting eternatus himself but also turn himself in and allowed all of his resources to be used by the main characters to fight Sou, the legendary armament dogs, and prepare for a second fight with eternatus.
9:00 I always thought Gusma was beaten with a golf club by his dad as a kid.
Rose´s plan does makes sense though. The energy emitted by the wishing stars is indeed incredibly useful as an energy source and used in many different fields but the wishing stars themselves (that are actually parts of Eternatus that got scattered 3000 years ago after its first defeat) aren´t unlimited. So it was required to recreate the events of the first of the first darkest day in order to ensure that the wishing stars could keep existing in the Galar region.
But the experiments and the constant supply of wishing stars required to awake Eternatus also caused its awakening to accelerate every time making it even harder to contain and this why their plan couldn´t be delayed (and it´s also is the reason why you hear explosions through the story everytime you´re near hammerlocke).
Rose was developing his plan based on his (incomplete/inaccurate) knowledge of the legend of Galar (the one that talks about how "a hero" was the one who stopped the first darkest day). Because of this, he needed two things: to bring back the darkest day (a.k.a Eternatus) and "a hero" to defeat it (and in current times, this would be Leon, the strongest trainer of the Galar region). Which made Leon´s cooperation an absolutely vital part of his plan.
Rose isn´t really a bad person. He loves Galar, had a huge role in his development as a metropolis and has a great eye to find talented people that could help with that growth (Oleana, Leon, Bede, etc). But he does has some really strong ideals.
And that´s why the scene where he expels Bede from the gym challenge for destroying the ancient mural is so important. Because is meant to show that Rose cuts associations with ANYONE that goes againts the well being of Galar in some way or another. And just like what happened with Bede, he also got dissapointed with Leon´s actions.Bede not only was the challenger endorsed by Rose, he was his plan B in case Leon refused to take part in his plan. But he lost this plan B the moment he got dissapointed in Bede´s actions and considered him unreliable.
Also, the reunion with Leon in Rose Tower wasn´t Rose´s first attempt to convince Leon to participate in the plan. In fact, Oleana´s entire ambush to Leon on his way to the dinner with Hop and the player was their last attempt to get Leon´s cooperation by his own will. To the point where Oleana makes everything in her power to delay your (and Hop´s) arrival to the tower to gain as much time as she could for Rose to convince Leon, even if she herself had to battle againts the player to do it. At the end, this plan failed and Rose got dissapointed with Leon just like he did with Bede but he still needed him for his plan but Rose no longer trusted in Leon´s promises to help with the plan, which is part of why the plan couldn´t be delayed. So given the situation he needed to force Leon to cooperate (by awakening Eternatus in a way that Leon couldn´t ignore: during the final match of the gym challenge).
So basically, the experiments caused Eternatus awakening to accelerate making it even harder to contain and this why their plan couldn´t be delayed (and it´s also why you hear explosions through the story everytime you´re near hammerlocke) and their reunion in Rose Tower was Rose´s last attempt to convince him to take part in the plan by his own will since Leon was vital for it. But he refused to take part in the plan for being dangerous so Rose cut associations with him and used the final match to force him to participate since he was still vital for the plan.
And only you, the player, thanks to the fact that you went through the gym challenge, Sonia´s research in the places related to the legend and to the discovery of the lost ancient tapestry with the missing part of the legend (that hinted the location of the relics necessary to summon the legendaries that protected Galar), discovered the actual cause of Eternatus defeat 3000 years ago that no one else knew. And with Hop´s help you were able to summon the only ones that could actually defeat Eternatus (Zacian and Zamazenta), just like the two kings (ancestors of Swordward and Shieldbert) did in the past and saved the region (while also ensuring the future of Galar with the wishing stars being scattered once again through the region).
Sorry for the ridiculously long comment. I tend to write a lot sometimes XD. But I hope this helps to understand Rose´s plan with Leon and the darkest day and why he did what he did.
I appreciate the explanation. It’s always lingering in the back of my mind, but I’ve never been able to find the words to explain it perfectly
To me he reminds me of Bill Gates and he plans to destroy society to avoid a climate calamity hundreds of years off in the future.
He's also got a pathological need to be in the spotlight too. He wants to save Galar both for benevolent purposes and because it would ensure that he would always be a beloved figure in history.
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No. He truly does things out of altruism. He isn't looking for fame. He was just playing with forces beyond his control.
@@giboit. I really see it as a mix of both altruism and ego. Look at how he treated his brother the second Peony got fame for himself.
I loved the fact for Colress. Seriously his theme is such a kicker
You put the most evil villian in the history of pokemon
I actually was wondering if she might be in the list.
I'll never forget the evil thing Mindy did.
I like how number 100 was a real life antagonist for all of us
I really wanna see N and Malamar in the anime again. N because he’s my favorite, and Malamar because it said it would return in the future, but it hasn’t yet
i think it wa scrapped or its gonna be in the remakes anime special episodes like for the special episodes of bdsp and legends arceus
The Malamar's plot ended when the group faced Xerosic after the Lysandre stuff. The Malamars allied to him and were defeated.
7:51: Lol imagine you're walking on the rubble of the town and you just hear "help me" beneath you.
Also, raise your hand if you think some idiot's gonna let him out.
Another fun fact about Ghetsis: His Hydreigon has a friendship value of zero, while the rest of his team has their standard friendship value. To my knowledge, it's the only Pokemon you fight with a specific friendship value of zero, while being owned by a Trainer.
The Aether Foundation and Wicke aren't here despite being with Lusamine and Faba since they have different goals in mind. Wicke and the Foundation wants to help Pokémon while Lusamine wants to capture them for her own gain. No idea what Faba's deal is in all of this, but he's up to something alright.
On the one hand I'm impressed that you included some of my personal faves like Lawrence, Domino, and Iron Mask Marauder. On the other hand...
...Molly Hale, Mitsumi, Evil Togepi, Grey, Black, Bashou, Buson, Tyson (who's even seen in the background of Sebastian's segment), Io, Go-Rock Quads, the other members of the Socitea, the Miss Fortunes, Kamado, Poképark Darkrai and his followers, Poképark Mew (yes, Mew is the antagonist of a game!), Mr Kincaid, Wheeler (shown during Blake Hall's segment), Red Eyes (the ACTUAL first character to try and kill you), Blue Eyes, Purple Eyes, Dark Rust, Arlo, Sierra, Cliff, Wicke, Bede, Sordward, Shieldbert, Venus, Trudly, Folly, Ardos, Eldes, Callahan (ok maybe I'm the only one who considers him a bad guy, but everything bad that happens in that movie is because he never stops LYING), Goone, Galen, first movie Mewtwo...
Yeah, some of those omissions are a bit strange.
That Nugget isn't the only held item with no effect an NPC has. In Platinum's Pokémon Mansion, you can fight Rich Boy Liam and Lady Celeste, where their Blissey is holding a Rare Candy, which also has no effect in battle.
Another Fact about Lawrence III is he's never referred to by name in the whole movie.
I have to say that Edward is a terrifying villain. On one hand, he mentions being a doctor with no evil intent.
On the other hand, he casually Death Star'd Dolce Island as a _statement_ (which probably killed a ton of Pokémon) and casually threatened to do the same to Renbow Island.
Seriously, the Rangers are talking about the voices of Oblivia rising up against him and he's just:
"If that's so, I'll let you hear the real voices of Oblivia. I'm afraid they'll probably be screams, though."
Honestly I'm surprised he didn't bring up Purple Eyes. Purple Eyes ended up being the true villain of the game as he not only took control over the Golden Armor from Edward and tried to rule the world using Mewtwo, in the post game, he got even MORE evil by trying to have Arceus destroy all humanity period.
Great video Dobbs. Keep up the great work. Love your videos and personality.
How do you figure Rose was the biggest plot twist? They over focused on him which told you he was the evil guy. Same thing they did for the leader of Team Flare.
Some other tidbits of trivia:
- There are a couple of other NPCs that have Pokemon holding nuggets. In Ruby Sapphire and Emeralds on Route 104 there are the Rich Boy and Lady trainers who have zigzagoons holding nuggets. (Why is doubly hilarious because if they are holding items they can't even use their signature pickup ability)
They give a lot of money on defeat AND use full restores on their level 7 or something Zigzagoons to show off how much money they have, which I always found funny. I remember battling them repeatedly by using a pokemon with the coin amulet and then switching in a Pokemon with theif to steal their nugget and farm money.
- In the ORAS remakes, Maxie's room has a decorative boat colored in red whose description says something like "it looks old, but is well kept". Why a boat and they didn't put something in his room like a rock collection or something more "like" him? Did Gamefreak get lazy? That first strikes you as strange by someone who should not like the sea as Maxie, but since we know that they are pretty much old-friends-turned-enemies (and even were in the same team, rumored to be Team Rocket), it's probably intentional and an old gift he got from Archie that he didn't get rid off.
- Still in ORAS, Shelly's room in Alpha Sapphire has a picture of her and Archie as kids, together with Jirachi, which is also a little reference to the Pokemon Special/Adventures manga.
‘Bud’: In the anime, there’s a running gag in which no one can remember Butch’s name.
I see what you did there.
maybe them forgetting branch's name was on purpose
Mendi is the secret team leader of all of them
2:36 I just love this one
I'm glad the closed captions informed me that Giovanni wasn't originally the Virginian City gym leader. The more you know
Another thing you forgot to mention about Koga is that he helped restore the health of his golbat in red and blue by cutting his wrist and letting his Pokémon drink his blood. It was brutal, and I was NOT ready for that.
5:45 In Spanish she's called Venus because that planet is linked to femininity and she's a female. Otherwise she'd be called Marte (Mars in Spanish), which is a planet linked to masculinity and it may create some confusion
Confusion how?
You thought I was a hero but I am actually villain and Lusamine!!!! Lol.
Surprised you found 100 villains man, good job :)
Where did you get the info over that Mew card in the 2nd movie?
Would love to know more about it!
James had a Pokémon card in the anime. He collects Pokémon cards. They fall out of his pocket and they’re small to see
I love how Dobbs didn’t spoil the identity of the masked man for everyone else
For No.32, the fact that these characters are 27 years old might be a reference to 'the 27 club'. A theory around young musicians who die, all happen to die age 27, examples are Jimi Hendrix, Amy Winehouse and Kurt Cobain. However, a musician is statistically more likely to die age 55 and other famous musicians that died young, died different ages, 2pac being one, died age 25.
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So what is it?
I've never seen one before, no one has but I'm guessing it's a white hole
A white hole?
Every action has an equal and opposite reaction, a black hole sucks time and matter out of the universe, a white hole returns it.
So that thing's spewing time back into the universe?
Oh wow......that's a new explanation for the golf clubs, but sadly I feel the whole...abuse theory is alot more likely, especially with how gamefreak loves to hide more adult/dark themed lore within their games
The only issue I has with gen 2 manga is Celebi’s arm that was very long and I’m glad they immediately fixed it in gen 3
Someone should make a game where you play as Giovanni and his adventure through Kanto change my mind
Very Nice Dobbs 👍😎
The legends being genderless is probably for attract to not work,cuz in each and every canon
Multiple legends are referred with gender in some way or form
For example,zacian who is said to be zamazenta's sister in the dex
Wes might be the only Game Protagonist that was part of a Evil Team but in other medias there are others Rosa(or Whitey in the Manga) the female player character in B2W2 was a member of Team Plasma in the manga.
Finally a new video
Guzma having an ongoing rivalry with Kahili (either in golf, Pokemon battles, or both) is 100% part of my headcannon.
That fact that he also supposedly always loses to her is also referenced by their type specialties: Guzma uses bug type Pokemon, which are weak the flying type Pokemon that Kahili owns
Hey dobs big fan did awhile I love your animated skits and find you really entertaining hope you’re doing. Quick question will you stream agin in twitch ?
#64: Since others have already mentioned the story behind the golf clubs and trophies, I’ll talk about the poses. The body language, combined with characterization, makes Guzma and Khalil’s poses totally different. Guzma’s squat is heavily associated with delinquents and thugs in Japanese media, while Khalil’s crouch is how golfers visually line up a putt.
Gengar from Mystery Dungeon is the rival from my childhood. He's such a jerk and the game made me really invested into wanting to kick his ass.
But the first time I played it, I lost the Waterfall TM in a Dungeon, so I couldn't do the postgame. When I looked it up years later, I learned that Gengar is the human in the legend, and my mind was blown.
Thank you for spoiler i am strugling in groudon now
Whoops sorry.
4:01 that fact has been actually confirmed in Pokémon masters
If pokemon and Kirby are in the same universe that means Kirby is a pokemon like a Dido that could transform its abilities
Proton has that murkrow that spoils the password to you so he can fly in places lol
It's more likely that Guzma wasn't the one playing golf, but he for sure was the ball.
What about the Howard Clifford from the Detective Pikachu movie?
Yeah Howard Clifford taken control of Mewtwo and fusing both people and Pokémon into one from having a nightmare being a Pokémon into one.
Fun fact: Team Rocket's Meowth's episode where they tell his back story reveal that he is the ONLY Meowth that can walk on two feet and speak like humans in the Pokémon world, he learned it to impress a love interest. But later Nintendo made all other Meowth stand when canonically they didn't.
Hahah that final one. Hidden villain for sure!
10:06 no it’s fucking not. The second I saw his face in the opening goddamn movie of the game I said out loud he’s gonna be the villain bruh it was so fucking obvious
2:52 I was eating domino’s pizza when I was watching this the first time
Man, volo was the biggest plot twist in the movie, cuz before the red sky came in legends arceus it was not even predictable that he is gonna be evil. Even after that it was hard to tell if he gonna turn out that.
10:28 There is also an NPC whose Pokémon are holding Nuggets in the postgame of FRLG:
in Lost Cave (near Five Island) there's an NPC called Lady Selphy, she has 2 Persians who are both holding Nuggets.
To be fair, most trainers in vanilla main line games don't have hold items.
Volo was the biggest plot twist in my opinion. I never expected that guy to betray me and when you are hoping that the fight was finished with him there are 2 extra battles left to completely beat him.
2:35 I see you, Mr. Dobbs:)
The guy with the golf clubs… they’re broken cause they were abused with them
I guess Mirror B is a Smooth Criminal
I just realised after watching this video, team rocket has so many members that I didn't even know about.
Fun Fact: The masked man is Pryce and all he wanted to do was to see his dead Lapras
Thats not a Fun Fact, its just a Spoiler
To be fair I thought people didn’t care about the manga
the jupiter fact made me chuckle, no idea why
volo was more of a shock to a lot of people the chairman rose
10:33, technically false but an easy one to mistake, in diamond pearl and/or platinum, after you do the 5 clefairy battles in the set amount of turns, the rich kids have a blissey holding a rare candy.
There was also talk about Wes being planned to be the main antagonist in XD
You know the leader of team Flare appears in USUM, right? A lot of the bad guys appear in those games, Guzma helps you at Aether Paradise!
they used the original designs for archie and maxie, i try to forget about that
The fact that you mentioned team go rocket and couldn't find a fact about arlo sierra and cliff is a crime that makes you number 1 on everyone's hitlist
You'd think that this is a list from least to most evil, mostly because mindy is at the end of it.
In my school vr game 00 goalius is counted as a villain so here's a fact about him he is the only known ultra beast that beaten arcius in combat and is the oldest ultra beast in existence at a whopping 5.6 billion years old
1:24 'the spoons of destiny." Spoons....destiny....wow....that's some pretty rad worldbuilding
He should have brought up Sabrina’s ability to mass create structures through mister Mines wall illusions. A tactic that gets used by crystal in the emerald arc and one of the gym leaders during the X and Y arc.
Ok that first fact is actually really interesting, I never knew that!
I'm convinced masked trainer is the real mc. Pikachu can fight legendries, but Delibird??? and against a "bigger" "better" bird? that's plot armor at its finest.
The masked man is just that good. What if I told you that he did that while also fighting a different battle miles away using Morse code instructions.
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Dobbs is a Pokemon villain confirmed
Love you’re content Dobbs
ngl is a bit surprised that their was no mention about dr. namba from pokemon has the same voice actor as weevil underwood from yugioh just would've thought that be a fun fact to add tbh
Plz battle Vinny
Vinny Vinesauce?
Unless I missed it, I think we're missing the trio from GO, but I doubt they have enough info for a video. Arlo, Cliff, and Sierra are pretty interesting design wise
Yeah, the number had to settle at 100. The fact that there’s more than 100 out there just goes to show how expansive the Pokémon franchise is.
@@Dougbro1 I guess Dobbs will have material for a part two if there's more spinoff games/anime , video games , and more Manga content in the future. Gen 9 hopefully will have some interesting characters
Cliff is so bada$$ ngl
Ok I’m sorry but I draw the line at lysandrae like HUH
Where are the rocket commanders in Pokemon Go? Hahaha
He did miss those 3! And Primal Dialga too
Making Lusamine fact number 69.
Nice.
I actually do have a trainer ID of 1 in my Yellow VC, pretty cool
Giovanni: In addition to Team Rocket, Giovanni had other business exploits of various legitimacy. The most notable one is Pokemon Land from the Anime, a theme park featuring giant Pokemon robots that could actually use moves... yeah, probably a bad idea in hindsight.
Anything Manga Related: The manga is its own continuity and should be treated as such.
Jessie: Jessie's last name is commonly assumed to be Miyamoto.
James: James is the one who comes up with all the various costumes that Team Rocket uses, and is a cosplayer by hobby. Also, it's kinda hinted at that James is genderfluid.
Meowth: Meowth's ability to walk bipedally is stated to be unique to him in the anime, however in the games Meowth is almost always portrayed as bipedal.
Colress: In X and Y, a backpacker at the Standing Stones south of Geosenge Town mentions that Colress told him about how the stones can channel energy.
Volo: He's the descendent of the last remaining survivors of an ancient civilization in Sinnoh/Hissui that was struck down by Arceus. This explains his motives as well.
Lysandre: His goals are actually different depending on whether you're playing X or Y. In X, his goal is to lock the world in a static state of endless beauty. In Y, he views himself as the world's protector, seeking to strike down all that threatens what he sees as beauty. He's insane either way, but he's less of a monster and more of a well intended extremist in Y.
Guzma: The golf clubs aren't Guzma's, and the trophies show extensive Pokeball iconography and don't resemble golf trophies. I'll leave it at that. But anyway, until BDSP, Guzma was the strongest bug-type specialist in any Pokemon game, and he's still the strongest main-storyline bug-type specialist.
Greevil: Greevil was a last minute addition to Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness. Originally, it was planned to have _Wes_ as the chief executive of the Cypher Syndicate, but that was dumbed out when Satoshi Tajiri ordered them to change it. Satoshi claimed that making the protagonist of Coliseum the main villain of XD: Gale of Darkness would "negate the player's feeling of achievement after beating Coliseum". Honestly, if they kept Wes in XD, it would have been by far the biggest plot twist in the entire franchise.
Mirror B.: Mirror B. is the only character in the Pokemon franchise to have two completely different unique battle themes that aren't remixes of each other. His first theme from Coliseum is a Latin Dance song, while his XD Gale of Darkness theme is heavily influenced by Disco.
The ace trainer with an Axew on Route 8 from Pokemon X and Y: This trainer is a villain for having a first form pseudolegendary that knows dragon rage early enough in the game for it to 2-shot anything you have. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if her sole reason for existing is to try and force the player to use a fairy type.
You forgot Attila and Hun from The Legend of Thunder, the only successful Team Rocket duo.
THEY FRICKIN CAUGHT RAYQUAZA AND THIS HAS NEVER BEEN BROUGHT UP AGAIN I WANT ANSWERS
•(14:21) Another fact abot Alva!(He's my favourite Pokemon Villain of All time):
Alva's Name Comes from 19th Centry inventor Thomas Edison; Edison's Full name Was Thomas Alva Edison,.Un Which Alva's Name is! Alva is a name That also Means White(Last time i check), Which in turn could be a reference to be His Shiny Mega Gengar!
there are so many villains in pokemon. nice.
This also left out a whole lot! Like, it has the villains from multiple movies but skipped others (including Mewtwo!)
Dark Matter in Pokemon series is completely unseen when comparing to the Kirby series's Dark Matter. Maybe they are cousins from different universes.
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What could have happened to Lysandre never crossed my mind. but that...
number 66: i can imagine gladion sounds like kite tenjo from yugioh zexal
I always thought Faba’s glasses looked like Flygon eyes.
A fact for team flare:
In pokémon adventures XY and after the team flare arc of XYZs anime they kidnapped Clemont