The Tang Soo Do version(s) come from Shotokan, but the final four knife hand techniques are low like the Shito-ryu version. Funny never noticed that until now after nearly 30 years of doing it.
Yes it is! most stances are deeper as well as moves being slightly altered for the shito ryu version but it is essentially the same as Wado-Ryu's pinan nidan
It is Heian Shōdan 平安初段 from the Shōtōkan perspective. The name of the kata in Shitō Ryū is Pinan Nidan 平安二段. Very nice perfomances, congratulations to both the practitioners! Ossu おっす押忍
The name of the kata in the creator's system (Ankō Itosu糸洲 安恒) was Pinan Nidan. It was Master Funakoshi (pen name Shōtō) who, due to the obvious simplicity of the kata, changed the order and made it the 'kata of the beginning' (初 shō means 'first, elementary').
@@nicolaeberbec3912 This is one theory, the other, it was Itosu Sensei, when he realised, that pinan shodan was more difficult, so he renamed both. Nindan became shodan, etc
@tinotrivino If it were so, I guess that the phenomenon you mentioned would be visible in the style Itosu ryu Karate. In fact, at least according to the videos searchable on RUclips, this is not the case. To my knowledge, it was only Shotokan (ryu) that changed the name of these two katas.
I have my green belt Shito-Ryu karate and this is almost identical to heian nidan. Heian shodan is currently the kata I am learning and will be eventually tested on to attain my blue belt.
@@ayanokoujigoatMe parece qué es el estilo qué tiene la mayor cantidad de Katas, alrededor de unas 70, lo qué se traduce en una gran cantidad de técnicas. A mí parecer las técnicas sirven pero necesita su tiempo para poder aplicarla en combate.
Please note Gichin Funakoshi founder of Shotokan changed the sequnce of their Katas. They switched Heian Shodan to Heian Nidan and visa versa. Shito Ryu did not. They found that original Shodan was harder than Nidan for the reasoning of the switch in names. Having said that - I study Shito Ryu we teach Pinan Nidan before Pinan Shodan to juniors for that reason.
@@charbelmoussawer2107 Nidan Kata for Shotokan is similar to our Shodan Kata (Shito-Ryu Style). "Ni" in Japanese is 2 - so Nidan Kata is No.2 Kata in the Heian/Pinan series of Kata. In our school we adopted the same sequence of teaching as Shotokan but not the switch in names. In other words we teach our Nidan before Shodan. It's not just for Juniors, we do it for all ages.
Well in MY opinion i think shotokan wins cause during the choreography, he seemed to have had more speed. This makes me want to learn shotokan even more.
@@KarateDojowaKu A ancient southern chinese style of Chuan Fa (Kung Fu). It is considered external, as opposed to other styles called internal, like Hsing-I or Pa Gua Zang.
Busca diferentes escuelas y observa las clases de cada una antes de elegir. Mira si el enfasis es el arte o la competencia. Las de competencia no son las mejores, porque fuera del entorno de competencia no te sirven en la calle. Habla con los miembros, en especial los avanzados marron y negra y verifica cuanto tiempo les tomo para llegar ahi. Mientras menos tiempo, mas floja es la disciplina y la escuela y son basicamente un Mc Dojo (Supermercado de cintas y titulos). Como anecdota de mi entrenamiento en Gosoku Ryu cuando era adolescente, tomaba alrededor de 10 años el llegar a negra, a un ritmo de alrededor de 1 cinta por año. Mi ultima cinta fue cinta verde 4th Kyu (a un paso de la marron) en 8 años desde mis 12. Sufri una lesion no relacionada y detuve mi entrenamiento formal para seguir con mi carrera. Aun a mi edad actual de 59, no me ha podido vencer un cinta negra de TKD u otros estilos que usan el fast track que mencione anteriormente, porque aunque limitado por mi rango en Gosoku, el entrenamiento, constancia y disciplina del arte te hace muy fuerte aun en lo basico. No hay prisa en esto, busca calidad, un buen Sensei.
el kyokushinkai karate es buenisimo, el shotokan es de posiciones mas bajas y largas, lo cual lo hace mas rigido, pero tiene buena fuerza, el shito riu no se mucho, pero se ve bien tambien. el karate en general es muy bueno. te recomiendo el primero que te mencione
The story is that Gigo Funakoshi was said to have been a big fan of kendo, kenjutsu and iaido and adopted their use of lower stances into shotokan. Its also where he got the idea for one-step sparring. He based it on the long range style sparring drills that are used in kendo.
The name Shito-Ryu was created by combining the names of the two masters responsible for the beginnings of the style. Shito-Ryu was developed and passed on from Master Ankoh Itosu and Master Kanryo Higaonna. In Kanji, the first two letters in their names spell “Shi” and “To” which are the parts of the name Shito-Ryu, Master Kenwa Mabuni combined them to create the name Shito-Ryu.
C’mon don’t be disrespectful it’s not exactly that word it has an extra O, and even an old trained fella in Goju/shito ryu they can kick ur butt too in a minute i bet online warrior
Yes, I can see a few differences, but I think both styles are still pretty similar. Personally, I have studied American Kenpo, Wing Chung Chuen, and have begun Goju Ryu and Jiu Jitsu, arts that are quite différent from one another. I am not saying that Shito Ryu and Shotokan are not good styles. Not at all ! But, lets say my own martial arts life journey took me on different paths. And that's great ! That is how students and masters of different martial arts may learn a lot from each other ! OSS !
Shito Ryu’s Heian Shodan is similar with Wado Ryu’s Pinan Nidan. Loving the comparison videos!
Yes. I studied Shorinji-ryu, which essentially swaps the order of Pinan Shodan and Pinan Nidan. I think that Wado-Ryu does the same.
Yes! Both of you are correct!
Actually, in Dento Shito-Ryu, this is Pinan Nidan kata. At least, in the Mabuni Kenwa line, we call it Pinan Nidan.
The Tang Soo Do version(s) come from Shotokan, but the final four knife hand techniques are low like the Shito-ryu version. Funny never noticed that until now after nearly 30 years of doing it.
Yes it is! most stances are deeper as well as moves being slightly altered for the shito ryu version but it is essentially the same as Wado-Ryu's pinan nidan
It is Heian Shōdan 平安初段 from the Shōtōkan perspective. The name of the kata in Shitō Ryū is Pinan Nidan 平安二段. Very nice perfomances, congratulations to both the practitioners! Ossu おっす押忍
The name of the kata in the creator's system (Ankō Itosu糸洲 安恒) was Pinan Nidan. It was Master Funakoshi (pen name Shōtō) who, due to the obvious simplicity of the kata, changed the order and made it the 'kata of the beginning' (初 shō means 'first, elementary').
@@nicolaeberbec3912 This is one theory, the other, it was Itosu Sensei, when he realised, that pinan shodan was more difficult, so he renamed both. Nindan became shodan, etc
@tinotrivino If it were so, I guess that the phenomenon you mentioned would be visible in the style Itosu ryu Karate. In fact, at least according to the videos searchable on RUclips, this is not the case. To my knowledge, it was only Shotokan (ryu) that changed the name of these two katas.
I have my green belt Shito-Ryu karate and this is almost identical to heian nidan. Heian shodan is currently the kata I am learning and will be eventually tested on to attain my blue belt.
Como es el estilo Shito-Ryu?
Yeah, actually this is Heian Nidan or Pinan Nidan, Pinan shodan is to get the green belt.
@@ayanokoujigoatMe parece qué es el estilo qué tiene la mayor cantidad de Katas, alrededor de unas 70, lo qué se traduce en una gran cantidad de técnicas.
A mí parecer las técnicas sirven pero necesita su tiempo para poder aplicarla en combate.
@@alexcoding7093 pero?
@@ayanokoujigoat Si osea, requiere su buena práctica, la verdad es buen estilo.
Please note Gichin Funakoshi founder of Shotokan changed the sequnce of their Katas. They switched Heian Shodan to Heian Nidan and visa versa. Shito Ryu did not. They found that original Shodan was harder than Nidan for the reasoning of the switch in names. Having said that - I study Shito Ryu we teach Pinan Nidan before Pinan Shodan to juniors for that reason.
so what would be heian nidan for shotokan is being teached as heian/pidan shodan for juniors?
@@charbelmoussawer2107 Nidan Kata for Shotokan is similar to our Shodan Kata (Shito-Ryu Style). "Ni" in Japanese is 2 - so Nidan Kata is No.2 Kata in the Heian/Pinan series of Kata. In our school we adopted the same sequence of teaching as Shotokan but not the switch in names. In other words we teach our Nidan before Shodan. It's not just for Juniors, we do it for all ages.
はい、インド人です！
私は子供の頃からShitoRyuを学んだことがあります。他のバラエティーが全然知らなくて、このビデオはめちゃくちゃ面白かったです。昔のころも思い出しました、懐かしい～
また空手自分の家で始めよと思います。ビデオありがとうございます、先生！おっすっ！
日本語お上手ですね！ありがとう！
Beautiful! I live in México and that was the very first kata i learned
Looks a lot like Pinan Nidan, could you do a video breaking down the Heian/Pinan Katas and which order dojos teach them?
This is the kata i learned and this is soo easy i learned it in only one day ❤😊
"Day in the life of a Japanese University student"
No way :0
@@GregoryCedeno317 i completely forgot why i said that
@@666-d5y It's because they look alike, and have the same name. I don't know if it's him, but it would be a funny coincidence 😂
School memories reviewed ❤ ty 😊
Todos los sistemas son buenos, es cuestión de preferencias.
Good comparison video. Well executed moves. But I feel a smoother continuous flow from into the next, might be better.
superb skills by both.
잘보고 갑니다 재미있네요 👍good
Both very good 👏
I'm from Philippines, are you guys familiar on shorin ryu, I'm shotokan but my sensei leave us, then we decide to jump shorin ryu
I am orange belt and looking forward to getting my green belt soon but i can do upto yondan but i have only one year of karate experience 😢
Beautiful
I am currently training in Shitō-ryū, In the dojo I train this is nidan. Is this something that changes depending on the dojo?
The name changes in the Shotokan style
Yes you're right, I also learn Shitoryu and this kata is called Heian Nidan by our sensei
In Shito -ryu shukokai it’s pinan nidan
@@salliesmith3582 same in shito ryu itosu kai > genbu kai
Oss Sensei yusuke
just started Shito-ryu
Karate kyokushin
👇
that shito ryu shooto last 4 moves is low block I still use shotokan style finish
Well in MY opinion i think shotokan wins cause during the choreography, he seemed to have had more speed. This makes me want to learn shotokan even more.
Bro the shito ryu kata shown here is nidan not shodan I have been practicing shitoryu fro nearly 2years now and I learn katas till heian yondan
أحسنت برافو
👏💖👍🌷
Io le partenze degli Age uke le ho sempre fatte a mano aperte 😮
Sensei, can you do a comparison with Hung gar ?
What's Hung gar?
Sensei please check:
www.quora.com/What-is-Hung-Gar-Kung-Fu
It is well explained here.
@@subhamdawnknight it's kung fu not Karate lmao
@@KarateDojowaKu A ancient southern chinese style of Chuan Fa (Kung Fu). It is considered external, as opposed to other styles called internal, like Hsing-I or Pa Gua Zang.
Im black belt dan in shito ryu foundation, from Tamil Nadu
Hey bebs it is heain nidan not shodan
Que escuela es mejor . Tengo 30 y quiero aprender Karate pero no sé si alguna es mejor que otra o como elegir la escuela ..
Agardezo que me orienten.
Busca diferentes escuelas y observa las clases de cada una antes de elegir. Mira si el enfasis es el arte o la competencia. Las de competencia no son las mejores, porque fuera del entorno de competencia no te sirven en la calle. Habla con los miembros, en especial los avanzados marron y negra y verifica cuanto tiempo les tomo para llegar ahi. Mientras menos tiempo, mas floja es la disciplina y la escuela y son basicamente un Mc Dojo (Supermercado de cintas y titulos). Como anecdota de mi entrenamiento en Gosoku Ryu cuando era adolescente, tomaba alrededor de 10 años el llegar a negra, a un ritmo de alrededor de 1 cinta por año. Mi ultima cinta fue cinta verde 4th Kyu (a un paso de la marron) en 8 años desde mis 12. Sufri una lesion no relacionada y detuve mi entrenamiento formal para seguir con mi carrera. Aun a mi edad actual de 59, no me ha podido vencer un cinta negra de TKD u otros estilos que usan el fast track que mencione anteriormente, porque aunque limitado por mi rango en Gosoku, el entrenamiento, constancia y disciplina del arte te hace muy fuerte aun en lo basico. No hay prisa en esto, busca calidad, un buen Sensei.
el kyokushinkai karate es buenisimo, el shotokan es de posiciones mas bajas y largas, lo cual lo hace mas rigido, pero tiene buena fuerza, el shito riu no se mucho, pero se ve bien tambien. el karate en general es muy bueno. te recomiendo el primero que te mencione
Budweiser
shito ryu is crazy
i do chito ryu it sounds so simaler
This is heian nidan not heian shodan
damn... my eyes O _ O
I was in shotokan now I am in shito ryu
❤❤❤❤🎉
Shodan ho ki neidan ho ra confuse banayo
My style is shotokan 🥋
Um that isnt shito ryu heian shodan, thats heian nidan
I do shito-ryu. Now its time to look at these “shotokan” nerds and see what they can do
💪IKF💪
Bent wrist in shuto uke is not good form, wrist must be straight, so say Ohta sensei.
Da da benny the jets the best lmao
Oss
This is heian nidan
aguante shito ryu
My vote goes to shotokan
Shito Ryu is Heian Nidan
Heian nidan*
Why did shotokan adopt the deeper zenkutsu dachi in kata compared to okinawan karate which are more upright and natural? osu!
The story is that Gigo Funakoshi was said to have been a big fan of kendo, kenjutsu and iaido and adopted their use of lower stances into shotokan. Its also where he got the idea for one-step sparring. He based it on the long range style sparring drills that are used in kendo.
That's pinan nidan
Bruhh its (Hayan nidan) -_-
Heian nidan
shotokan the best
No, Is a heian nidan
thats heian nidan
go to UFC and try your technic - you will be knock out in a few seconds
In many Shito-ryu dojo, this is considered Heian Nidan
La kata es heian nidan no shodan, al menos la del estilo shito ryu
Pinan nidan
Shitryo karate
Wrong
Who in the world came up with a name like Shito Ryu- was someone taking a dump on the toilet seat, before inventing the name for that style?
The name Shito-Ryu was created by combining the names of the two masters responsible for the beginnings of the style. Shito-Ryu was developed and passed on from Master Ankoh Itosu and Master Kanryo Higaonna. In Kanji, the first two letters in their names spell “Shi” and “To” which are the parts of the name Shito-Ryu, Master Kenwa Mabuni combined them to create the name Shito-Ryu.
@@kobudokai1 thank you. I didn’t know that
C’mon don’t be disrespectful it’s not exactly that word it has an extra O, and even an old trained fella in Goju/shito ryu they can kick ur butt too in a minute i bet online warrior
I am pretty sure they didn't care how the English call their excrements.
Yes, I can see a few differences, but I think both styles are still pretty similar. Personally, I have studied American Kenpo, Wing Chung Chuen, and have begun Goju Ryu and Jiu Jitsu, arts that are quite différent from one another.
I am not saying that Shito Ryu and Shotokan are not good styles. Not at all ! But, lets say my own martial arts life journey took me on different paths. And that's great ! That is how students and masters of different martial arts may learn a lot from each other !
OSS !
shotokan doesnt change HEIGHT, where shito's punch you can see he stands up from musubidachi, clear trash style.
Shito is so bad