As always: thank you, human being. I'm at work right now, so I can't watch this yet. However, your hands remain entertaining as always, at least from what I could gather from a preview glimpse. Have a great day :) (EDIT: "WEEWEEWEE! WEEWEEWEE! WEEWEEWEE! is this metal??? WEEWEEWEE! WEEWEEWEE! dear god, help! WEEWEEWEE is this how I die??")
Yes to the edit!!! Yes, this is metal. Yes, all the help is needed XD Yes, this is how we all will die XD Squeaking our ways to an early grave. Seriously though, if I had to only do one exercise for the rest of my life it would be this one.
This series is absolutely awesome! I've been singing for years now and got a very nice and clean voice, so being into metal I naturally wanted to learn vocal fry/false chord distortion. I've been able to do what you tought up until now already, but how you explained it still gave me so much more insight and a new perspective on how to practice my fry effectively. Not any other channel I've watched has been able to do this as well as you do and I'm really looking forward to the next vids. Also there are so many people explaining fry with compression and it always felt somewhat off, so I really love your emphasis on just reducing volume and being mindful of not compressing too much. Real props and much love to you. You rock!
Yeah, I find the fixation with compression weird... I understand why people do it and I understand that that is why most guys who do fry are in a fry + false vocal fold combo distortion. Still, why not learn fry by itself first and be lazier XD
@@AlikiKatriou =] thanks for making these. Radically different approach to just throwing people into heavy distortion with no vocal practice. But I hate the waiting =p Already watched/liked the false folds one you posted!
Do you have any idea what I might be doing wrong? Whenever I try to sing in falsetto or fry really high (in my range), I get this tightness at the back of my mouth/under my jaw. When I try to fry, I reach that tightness a bit earlier, as in lower notes than I do when singing in falsetto. Also, I can only sing about 2,5-3 octaves, is that normal? 😕
2,5-3 octaves is completely normal. A 3 octave range is considered a large vocal range. Tightness at the back of the mouth/under jaw, sounds like it might be your tongue trying to help you out. Try placing your tongue on your lower lip, or stabilizing the tip of your tongue behind your bottom teeth and sticking the middle out. See if that addresses the sensation at all...
What if i'm able to hit highest notes only forcing em? I can't find such whistle register as you have, and it is completely impossible for me to quietly squeak like you do. The higher I go, the louder it becomes and stops at the point where i'm unable to produce enough volume and pressure. When i'm trying to sing without such volume/pressure i stop produce any sound something like an octave below in comparison to forcing approach.
This is very common. I would say work quietly and let it stop an octave lower. Keep at it and you'll uncover all that range. Volume and pressure aren't needed for most notes and this is the skill that singers need to develop :)
Hi Aliki. Can you give examples of real world usage of such technique? I tend to think that it's very niche , something like 90s black metal or guy from Judas priest. Would be greatful for modern music scene examples .
For vocal fry, the best example is In This Moment (everything that isn't clean is fry). There are moments from Pantera & Lamb of God that are fry, AFI is fry (not metal but it doesn't matter, check out Kill Caustic). I would agree that it's not as common as people think it is...
@@AlikiKatriou it's not important if it's metal or not for me , i listen everything that is good music , it's just metal takes little bit more listen time. So i i checked afi and i totally get it. Refused uses it too for instance which somehow i didn't realized earlier even though i listened them alot. Deftones are fry too as far as i can tell. I actually really curious how Chino does incredibly high squicky screams , my guess is they are inhale actually.
@@AlikiKatriou That's interesting. I'm able to make 7:44 fry on inhale, and it sounds exactly like you showed. But i'm completely unable to reproduce it exhale. I also can sing high pitched notes on inhale, and it doesn't feel difficult at all, whilst unable to sing them exhale (and the highest note on exhale is possible only through decent pushing). The difference is like 4-5 notes, maybe even an octave. I'm confused about this.
@@The14Some1 For many people, inhalations lead to a more precise vocal gesture. We realise that there is no point in sucking in the universe of air to make sounds. Most people though tend to blow out the universe when they try exhalations. If inhales work for you, you probably rely more on the vocal folds and less on the air on inhales :)
Hi Sensei! First of all, thank u so much for the content, It's reeeeally awesome! A little question: In my case (a baritone, but with high-tenor range also) I try to do high-fry and the sound is sometimes loud, and sometimes quiet-distorted. Is that normal or dangerous? 🤔
not necessarily... tickling is usually an indication of muscle tension - think of it as your body either using too much effort or too many muscles until it figure out how to be more efficient. Coughing is common in the beginning. I tend to think of coughing as your larynx's "autocorrect" response; basically your body thinks you're trying to do something else. That being said, you might be squeezing a tiny bit too much and slightly bringing in the false vocal folds, which would usually lead to coughing...
that helps immideatly alot now i have to train all sounds and words pronounciation while frying which tricky edit: actually the sound lack something still i guess i need to wait expert video lol
Does the fry with less air work for normal singing too or just ornamental distortion? I seem to have problems holding notes if I use so little air as to engage low-air fry.
i sent a video where i preform high pitched mixed fc\fry to guys from reddit discord server and the guy said that my adams apple should be visible or else it's wrong and constricted... uhm so who's right who's not. the tecnique feels comfortable to me since i practiced it since release of this video.
I would say that the position of your larynx affects the tonal quality of your sound. If you want a darker sound, you can lower your larynx. If you want a brighter sound, lift it. There is an old belief stemming from classical singing that the larynx most be lowered for singing to be "healthy". I think at this point historically, it is obvious this is not the case and there is a lot of research to back that up too. Look at singers you like. Can you see their Adam's apples? As much as I love metalheads and I love people learning to sing and giving feedback, it's always worth checking out what the dudes on stage are doing. I personally don't see a lot of Adam's apples being visible, which makes me hypothesize that they must be lifted...
It is one way, especially if you want your fry to be high-pitched and piercing sounding. Imitating Janice would probably lead to twang. In the case of me talking about squeaking, I am targeting a slightly different muscle, but both certainly work - the sound would just be slightly different.
Oh it's an obsession and a love. Other than that, it's because I want the interval distances to be smaller than major because I want the exercise to a) not feel like a huge stretch/leap and b) I want more precision from the vocal folds, in the sense of smaller muscular movements...
Oh my god her range 🤯
......I was already able to do vocal fry but watching this and knowing there's so much to it blows my mind ...
You ain't seen nothing yet, you should see how she can change the style of her sound.
@@aix83
The looks I'm getting from the dog are priceless
Oh I believe that XD
Incredible lessons! You are hands down the best vocal fry teacher on RUclips.
This exercise helped me unlock my falsetto fry, thank you!
Oh nice!! That's cool, thank you ^.^
Thank you so much for spreading your infinite knowledge and for your kindness to teach!
^^
Yeees , I've been waiting for this! Thanks you so much for all this
As always: thank you, human being. I'm at work right now, so I can't watch this yet.
However, your hands remain entertaining as always, at least from what I could gather from a preview glimpse.
Have a great day :)
(EDIT: "WEEWEEWEE! WEEWEEWEE! WEEWEEWEE! is this metal??? WEEWEEWEE! WEEWEEWEE! dear god, help! WEEWEEWEE is this how I die??")
Yes to the edit!!! Yes, this is metal. Yes, all the help is needed XD Yes, this is how we all will die XD Squeaking our ways to an early grave. Seriously though, if I had to only do one exercise for the rest of my life it would be this one.
5:40 my cat run to my tablet to check what is going on haha
Amazing tutorial, as always ❤️
SO GOOD! How do you even come up with these techniques/teaching methods... amazing...
A lot of singing lessons, reading books and research papers and trying to create exercises based on physiology and physics ^^
This series is absolutely awesome! I've been singing for years now and got a very nice and clean voice, so being into metal I naturally wanted to learn vocal fry/false chord distortion. I've been able to do what you tought up until now already, but how you explained it still gave me so much more insight and a new perspective on how to practice my fry effectively. Not any other channel I've watched has been able to do this as well as you do and I'm really looking forward to the next vids.
Also there are so many people explaining fry with compression and it always felt somewhat off, so I really love your emphasis on just reducing volume and being mindful of not compressing too much.
Real props and much love to you. You rock!
Yeah, I find the fixation with compression weird... I understand why people do it and I understand that that is why most guys who do fry are in a fry + false vocal fold combo distortion. Still, why not learn fry by itself first and be lazier XD
Great Exercises!
2:00 and 6:00
Awesome, as always!
I was just thinging about, when the next video is coming, and here it is!?
😄😄
Been waiting for a new vocal fry video 😩
Thank you, you always have the best instructions. Gonna have to pay for the lessons out of guilt soon ha
hahahaha XD Yes, yes, guilt is what I'm going for :P
Lmao. This is awesome. I’m seeing progress thank you!!!
Good stuff😁
Why is my neck so stiff when getting higher an higher with the "we we we's"?
Good stuff ! Hahahaha damn good to see you
Foamy the squirrel approves
:D good to see you here!
@@nihar2009 ah, you know how to tug at the heart strings!
Started out wanting to do savage vocals, ended up as a definitely confused, and possibly in love mickey mouse.
All savage vox produced by false chord
This is the best image ever XD
@@AlikiKatriou =] thanks for making these. Radically different approach to just throwing people into heavy distortion with no vocal practice. But I hate the waiting =p Already watched/liked the false folds one you posted!
Hi, - that's for me:
1:19 (mocniej = lepiej)
3:00 (rozciągać do infinity w górę)
[Jabłko Adama wyrąbane w górę]
3:38
/ Then... /
4:42
6:51 / 7:37 (lowest man)
[Less air, less air, less air]
7:55
Do you have any idea what I might be doing wrong? Whenever I try to sing in falsetto or fry really high (in my range), I get this tightness at the back of my mouth/under my jaw. When I try to fry, I reach that tightness a bit earlier, as in lower notes than I do when singing in falsetto. Also, I can only sing about 2,5-3 octaves, is that normal? 😕
2,5-3 octaves is completely normal. A 3 octave range is considered a large vocal range.
Tightness at the back of the mouth/under jaw, sounds like it might be your tongue trying to help you out. Try placing your tongue on your lower lip, or stabilizing the tip of your tongue behind your bottom teeth and sticking the middle out. See if that addresses the sensation at all...
What if i'm able to hit highest notes only forcing em? I can't find such whistle register as you have, and it is completely impossible for me to quietly squeak like you do. The higher I go, the louder it becomes and stops at the point where i'm unable to produce enough volume and pressure. When i'm trying to sing without such volume/pressure i stop produce any sound something like an octave below in comparison to forcing approach.
This is very common. I would say work quietly and let it stop an octave lower. Keep at it and you'll uncover all that range. Volume and pressure aren't needed for most notes and this is the skill that singers need to develop :)
@@AlikiKatriou uh, okay. Do you know people who developed whistle notes having the same issue as i have?
@@The14Some1 Yes, it just might take a little longer than you'd like :)
Hi Aliki. Can you give examples of real world usage of such technique? I tend to think that it's very niche , something like 90s black metal or guy from Judas priest. Would be greatful for modern music scene examples .
For vocal fry, the best example is In This Moment (everything that isn't clean is fry). There are moments from Pantera & Lamb of God that are fry, AFI is fry (not metal but it doesn't matter, check out Kill Caustic). I would agree that it's not as common as people think it is...
@@AlikiKatriou it's not important if it's metal or not for me , i listen everything that is good music , it's just metal takes little bit more listen time. So i i checked afi and i totally get it. Refused uses it too for instance which somehow i didn't realized earlier even though i listened them alot. Deftones are fry too as far as i can tell. I actually really curious how Chino does incredibly high squicky screams , my guess is they are inhale actually.
@@TheShmrsh Could be inhales, doesn't have to be. After a certain pitch, inhale and exhales kind of sound identical XD
@@AlikiKatriou That's interesting. I'm able to make 7:44 fry on inhale, and it sounds exactly like you showed. But i'm completely unable to reproduce it exhale. I also can sing high pitched notes on inhale, and it doesn't feel difficult at all, whilst unable to sing them exhale (and the highest note on exhale is possible only through decent pushing). The difference is like 4-5 notes, maybe even an octave. I'm confused about this.
@@The14Some1 For many people, inhalations lead to a more precise vocal gesture. We realise that there is no point in sucking in the universe of air to make sounds. Most people though tend to blow out the universe when they try exhalations. If inhales work for you, you probably rely more on the vocal folds and less on the air on inhales :)
oui oui
Hi Sensei! First of all, thank u so much for the content, It's reeeeally awesome!
A little question: In my case (a baritone, but with high-tenor range also) I try to do high-fry and the sound is sometimes loud, and sometimes quiet-distorted. Is that normal or dangerous? 🤔
That sounds normal to me...
My cat is going CRAZY with all these squikey noises, She almost jumped on me the bitch
XD Yup, most animals go crazy when the squeaks get high XD
Small, weak, and quiet 👉👈 4:29
Is the way to go XD
i tried this but the focal fry tickles when im high up and makes me couch am i doing it wrong?
probably
not necessarily... tickling is usually an indication of muscle tension - think of it as your body either using too much effort or too many muscles until it figure out how to be more efficient. Coughing is common in the beginning. I tend to think of coughing as your larynx's "autocorrect" response; basically your body thinks you're trying to do something else. That being said, you might be squeezing a tiny bit too much and slightly bringing in the false vocal folds, which would usually lead to coughing...
that helps immideatly alot now i have to train all sounds and words pronounciation while frying which tricky
edit: actually the sound lack something still i guess i need to wait expert video lol
It'll come ^^
Does the fry with less air work for normal singing too or just ornamental distortion? I seem to have problems holding notes if I use so little air as to engage low-air fry.
It works for normal singing too. It's challenging for the muscles to operate with little airflow, so give it time :)
@@AlikiKatriou awesome, thank you!
1:50
6:03
yeaahhhh !
i sent a video where i preform high pitched mixed fc\fry to guys from reddit discord server and the guy said that my adams apple should be visible or else it's wrong and constricted... uhm so who's right who's not. the tecnique feels comfortable to me since i practiced it since release of this video.
I would say that the position of your larynx affects the tonal quality of your sound. If you want a darker sound, you can lower your larynx. If you want a brighter sound, lift it. There is an old belief stemming from classical singing that the larynx most be lowered for singing to be "healthy". I think at this point historically, it is obvious this is not the case and there is a lot of research to back that up too.
Look at singers you like. Can you see their Adam's apples? As much as I love metalheads and I love people learning to sing and giving feedback, it's always worth checking out what the dudes on stage are doing. I personally don't see a lot of Adam's apples being visible, which makes me hypothesize that they must be lifted...
How to fry scream 101:
step 1: get your fry
step 2: pretend you're Janice from Friends
step 3: get Janice on a metal band
It is one way, especially if you want your fry to be high-pitched and piercing sounding. Imitating Janice would probably lead to twang. In the case of me talking about squeaking, I am targeting a slightly different muscle, but both certainly work - the sound would just be slightly different.
lol why diminished chords
Oh it's an obsession and a love. Other than that, it's because I want the interval distances to be smaller than major because I want the exercise to a) not feel like a huge stretch/leap and b) I want more precision from the vocal folds, in the sense of smaller muscular movements...
throat hurts now, not because i was straining it, but because i'm dumb and was jamming my finders into my neck feeling my adam's apple for 10min...
10min seems like a long commitment. I recommend being lazy when it comes to voice :)
Wee-wee
My doggo is gonna hate me...
Or if you do it long enough, he'll join in and howl XD