Just putting this here really quick. I realized that Historia’s hand either this episode or next. I messed up when I saw it initially. Just wanted to say that before I get comments getting mad at me LOL anyways ❤ I plan on reading comments once I’m fully caught up with AOT I look forward to coming back and reading the comment section soon :D
Who can gets mad at you? GIVE THEIR NAMES, I have a certain note book~ Also YOU WERE RIGHT!!!! (Only now noticed) 22:55 the shot symbolizes the moment he accessed HIS OWN FUTURE due to kissing Historia hand. (This scene of him INCITING HIS DADDY TO MURDER Till the disgusted look after his Dad told Zeke to STOP HIM at the end 27:00) Basically All Titans powers are limited except when in contact with royal blood, Normally Attack Titan host can't see "own" future, founding Can't command, Beast can't issue commands etc... Imagine how strong the Warhammer would be if the host is a Royal !!! BTW First time Eren Commanded Titans was in contact to his step mom Dina in her Titan form.
Could we just take a moment to applaude the stellar performance of Grisha's VA in this episode. Probably the best performance in the whole anime I'd say.
@@aaronyayger I disagree. He's good and still has most of the best performances in AoT under his belt, but for me the best is still Grisha's VA in this episode.
I binged the whole series in 2022. The only thing I knew was that Eren becomes ....not good at some point. Didn't even know he becomes a Titan and shit. But, I do remember during the evacuation from Shiganshina, in the ferry Eren shouting at the titans and screaming that he'll kill them all. I remember thinking, "That boy ain't right".
The part where Eren says “I’m no longer brainwashed” I’ve always interpreted as Eren speaking with a really flat sarcasm to spite Zeke and it makes it way funnier
This is why AOT is so good on the 2nd watch. So many little things make so much more sense in hindsight. The moment he kissed Historia's hand was the moment he changed. He saw everything...
I still think its really cute and wholesome that Grisha calls Mikasa his daughter, even though its only been roughly a year since she started to live with them.
Eren’s gaslight is just…I can’t even. You could see it on Grisha’s face how hard it was affecting him. The sounds, the zooming on his face and right to him picking up the scalpel was amazing! Eren is probably worth thousands of gallons of gas for that one.
@@samuelclayhills3298 Because he needed his dad to steal the Founder from Frieda. He was 100% telling the truth when reminding him of why he came to Paradis in the first place.
For me, it was way more of a mindfuck to realize there's most likely no free will in AoT, atleast not for eren and that the future is predetermined and unchangeable. That's why I wouldn't consider him a real Villain ; more like a victim to fate
Knew you would love this episode lol. I read where someone once said "Eren is the kid Grisha wanted in Marley when he wanted to restore Eldia, and Zeke is the kid he wanted on Paradis when he just wanted to love his family and spend time with them." He had so much sorrow and regret about Zeke and Dina and wanted to make it right with his new family, but Eren pushed him forward to complete his mission.
13:10 I mean Eren’s motives didn’t change much. The reason why he did everything was because he didn’t want to stay inside some walls like a caged animal, and like he said, he will take someone else’s life if it means to get free from this cages
Yea, it's more that, since we can't hear his inner thoughts. And how he portrays himself this season, that makes (on purpose mind you) is think he's different
An explanation of what really happened in this episode, I think it is worth to read ( no spoilers ) : Two thousand years ago, the titans were born from the powers of Ymir and in the previous episode, Zeke told us that she is a slave of the royal family for unknown reasons ( it is ahead in story ). In this episode, Grisha tells us that the attack titan was created to fight the king's self-righteousness and that Frieda (the royal family) was unaware of it. In other words, Ymir would have created the attack titan behind the back of the royal family. We know that each primordial can see the memories of its predecessors .But, in this episode, we learned that the attack titan has the power to read the memories of its future holders. This power, only Eren discovered it ( or got aware that attack titan have this power! ).By mistake, when Eren kissed Historia's hand, he saw his father memories ( what he saw and how is coming later… ). In the episode, Grisha does not see Zeke, he sees himself, facing Zeke, from Eren's point of view. To be precise, Grisha got aware that the memories were of future since he saw himself facing zeke. This happened just because Eren shared his memories, by "mistake", revealing the presence of Zeke. From this moment, Grisha start understanding the power of the attack titan. You can see Eren as a camera where he can choose, whenever he wants, to share his current vision to his predecessors. Then, to "know" the future, he has to share his vision to the predecessors and then see in Grisha's memories what's going to happen. There can only be one future (obviously). So when Eren decided to share his memories to his predecessors which suited him the most for his goal achievement. And after achieving it he shares the memories by using the founders power ( which he got by ymir ). When Eren shows his memories, he transmits them to all his predecessors simultaneously. Eren was saying "TATAKAE" in front of the mirror ( lol what an epic scene ) , he was actually sharing his memories and using the mirror so that his predecessors can see him. So, the first person who gets the attack titan two thousand years ago and sees Eren telling him "fight, if you don't fight, you can't win". Apart from this person, all those who inherited this titan thought they were seeing the memories of the first owner, when in fact, they were seeing the memories of the last owner of this titan. Another thing: Now, we know why Kruger said "To save Mikasa, Armin, and everyone else, you must see it through.". In fact, everyone who had the attack titan knew they had to save Mikasa and Armin, but they didn't know it was the future. In other words "the story is written from the end." Eren by sending memories writes everything , to be clear, the moment the attack titan was created by Ymir, the whole story was written and could not be changed ( since the future was already decided and fate cannot be changed ). Inevitably, the story was going to the future that Eren saw, and no one could change a thing ( from 2000 years ). The more u think the more story is actually a paradox for example ; Grisha steals the founding titan --> Grisha gives both titans to Eren -> Eren can attack Marley -> He "kidnap" Zeke -> they "touch" each other -> they can travel in Grisha's memory -> Eren manipulate him to steal the founding titan -> ... (loop) Another paradox: Eren ordered Grisha to spare Rod Reiss -> So he is going to look for his daughter (Historia) -> he will get killed by her -> She will become the new Queen of paradis -> Eren will kiss her hand -> So he looks at his father's memories and see himself ordering to Grisha to spare Rod Reiss -> ... (loop)
I like to imagine Eren also accidentally sent the memory of Hange bullying him back into the past and it ends with him going “what do you want!?” Because it’s funny
Everyone did great work on this episode, but I will always sing praises for Grisha's voice actor here. Hiroshi Tsuchida really brought his A game in that ending scene. Those wails and cries of this broken man brings tears to my eyes every time. Grisha's a man who made a lot of mistakes and has been trying to do better the second time around, only to end up being manipulaed by his own son to throw away his morals for an uncertain, horrid future that he only has had glimpses of. It's kind of like a Greek tragedy.
Eren kissing Historia's hand was the moment Eren realized the inevitability of what is to come. He saw the memories of Grisha, and in those memories, he saw HIMSELF manipulate the events from the future that led to where he is now. Hence how people thought he "changed" after the events of the battle of Shiganshina. It's just that he saw what is coming and there is nothing he can do but to "keep moving forward".
Do love how Eren and Zeke's little trip down memory lane and in combination with the ability from the attack titans to see future inheiritors memories made some sort of feedback loop which allows Griesha to look into his own past although from 3rd (Erens) perspective. Didnt caught on that how it works before other people point it out in their theories. Isayama what a man you are!
A fucked up thing is that Eren not just talked Grisha into doing it, he showed to him all the memories of all awful things that happened again so he could feel every moment from it again to gear him into bloodlust. He got played and manipulated to this point and didnt even get the courtesy of knowing when all would go down and if his wife would be ok.
@@Redd-Monarch He was disgusted with his dad for turning his back on the mission because it would’ve fucked everything up for Paradis. He never manipulated his dad just for the sake of doing it. He doesn’t want his dad to let his sister’s , wife’s ,and friend’s deaths be in vain since he saw first hand what had happened to all of them back in S3
This entire scenario only happened because Zeke used the founding Titan to show Eren Grisha’s memories. Because of the Attack Titan’s power Grisha was able to see the memories Eren gave him, which includes the ones he’s seeing now. Thus Grisha can see the things within Eren’s POV (which is how Grisha was able to see Zeke despite him not being physically present) and Eren and Zeke can see Grisha using the Founding Titan. Thus the past and the future could interact with each other and allow Eren to pull his 5D chess move. I have no idea how they’re physically touching tho. I’m just gonna blame that on the animators or Founding Titan BS.
It’s a tiny detail, but it’s one that touches my heart greatly. Grisha refers to Mikasa as his daughter. Not the girl he brought in, but his daughter. Daughter. Grisha learned Krueger’s lesson and took it to freaking heart.
If you look back in a few a of those memories Grisha is starring directly at future Erin, especially during the scene when he said he’d show him what’s in the basement
Yeah attack titan is basically a cockblock for the royal bloodline as well as the founding titan since it can determine whether it can win or not as it already knows the future it only depends whether the future inheritor will allow the passage of it's memory to be passed to the past inheritors
This is one of the best episodes of anything ever, I've ever seen... I had chills all the time and Eren is truly trrifying... Also Grisha's VA in this episode is out of this world!!!
18:16 well it could be an unreliable narrator situation (wouldn't be the first time the show does this), we can guess that upon gaining coordinate access he retroactively sent that ability into the attack titan's lineage and it could be either a passive thing Eren put into the titan or that he took his infinite time within the paths realm to feed the correct type of stuff that would ensure things went "the only way they could have gone" that results in this show playing out as it did and he masks it as a passive skill so that they all believe that "the attack titans never bow down to anyone" including himself from the past, when in truth both the founding and the attack titans are slaves but one is a slave to a past inheritor and the other one to a future inheritor
Why would she even care about her family’s death? She got over it real quick after realizing what a bastard her dad was. They were never like a family to her. You can make an exception for Frieda but she kept erasing her memories anyway.
Effectively Eren influenced every previous holder of the Attack Titan. It’s just as Eren said, he’d never let his freedom be stolen by another, he’d rather steal theirs first. That’s why holders of the Attack Titan never bowed others, because Eren never would. Eren IS the Attack Titan.
Can we take a second here to appreciate what Zeke is trying to prove to Eren, and how deeply fucked up it all is? Zeke is trying his hardest to make Eren understand that, fundamentally, he has no right to exist. Not only him, but everyone he's ever known and loved. In real world terms, Zeke would be a jewish person trying to convince another jewish person that they really, really should just give themselves to the Nazi to be killed, because neither of them have the right to exist as human beings. I know we are seeing Eren behave as a villain, and he has flaws that lead up to that image of him; Alicia doesn't know yet what he plans to do with the Founding Titan, but we get the general impression that it's not a good thing since the attack on Liberio, but can we _really_ blame him now for these actions? The alternative to his current rebellion against what Paradis wants to do with Historia and against what Marley wants to do with all Eldians is the mere desire to have a right to exist. We're talking about a world that has decided that Eren, his family, his friends, his entire country and world, do not deserve to exist and should all be exterminated. We are also dealing with a shitty Marley who, after finding an alternative to this horrible plan (letting Paradis exist inside the walls), decided to kill them anyways because they wanted some money. I'm sorry to say, but at this point Eren might be a villain, but so is every other faction in this world.
Well in this timeline the jews have superpowers that make them better than everyone else and they have activley used those powers to rule every other nation and massacare those who resist so the man has a genuine point.
Alicia was probably paying attention on subtitle and didn't notice that when Grisha talked to Eren about the key, he was actually looking at the eyes of the adult Eren.
There are theories (that I personaly believe to be true) that the attack titan can't actually see the momories of it's future inheritors, but that Eren used the founding titan's godly power to send his memories to the past and influence everything. That makes a bit more sense to me rather than it just being a weird little fun fact about the attack titan but that's just me
Symbolically, it makes more sense for the Attack Titan to see the future. It's been told that no matter the era, it kept moving forward against the odds.
There's also the bit of symbolism, but that's spoilers for the end of AoT so I'll just put it after a warning Spoilers: Everyone was so caught up in past disagreements, wars, everything that it prevent the people from moving forward to live peacefully. Eren's plan to become the villain was successful, which then let people see a brighter future.
Yeah the Attack Titan is one hell of a titan. It might just be one titan but it's like all iterations/inheritors are collaborating with one another to get to a specific path. And apparently, all the inheritors never bowed to anyone. I guess it's another trait. Just like all Royal Founding Titans inherit The King's vow, all Attack Titans inherit this innate will to oppose and create its own path. And I believe the Attack Titan was created like that deliberately. For reasons yet to be revealed. Congrats on getting the future memories right. I can't wait for the next episodes. Also, 23:55 the power of great production and writing. This twist that Grisha was actually a good man who learned from his mistakes but was manipulated by Eren; that character animation/acting that you rarely see in an anime series; that voice acting and accompanying score. All created this powerful moment.
23:04 Here, when he kissed Historia's hand, he witnessed what would happen in the future when he met Zeke, his head was cut off, and particulary this moment also, and the future that did not appear after that moment, Eren began to change.
I have my own theory about what happened in this episode. The Founding Titan's trait is its ability to manipulate memories, and it was only thanks to Zeke that Eren was able to interact with his father in the first place by bringing them into the memories. My belief is that the Attack Titan is actually an incomplete existence, or rather mostly dormant, until he gains access to the Founding Titan's power. I believe its true power is not that it's able to gift memories to the past, but rather interact with the Attack Titan's inheritors directly (including other Attack Titan inheritors being able to see them, which is why Grisha knows where Eren is at all times when talking to Frieda). With the combination of the Founding Titan + Attack Titan, it granted Eren the ability to both enter the past's memories (Founding Titan's power), and give him the ability to physically interact with those connected to the Attack Titan (Attack Titan's power). We see physical interaction happen between both Eren to Grisha (when he shook him on the shoulder), and Grisha to Zeke (when Grisha hugged Zeke). Grisha was interacted with before he even held the Founding Titan's power, so he only has access to the Attack Titan's power, which is what allowed him to hug Zeke. The reason Zeke can be seen and held by Grisha is because Zeke is currently connected to Eren's Attack Titan through the Founding Titan, and thanks to Eren's Founding Titan the veil that prevented the Attack Titan's ability from working was removed. Back when Grisha seen Zeke in the basement, Eren noticed something, that something being the Attack Titan's ability to see those connected to it from the future, by the Founding Titan removing the veil even for a moment. Even would then continue to experiment with this, as seen when Grisha was showing off the key, Eren removed the veil for Grisha to see him, and kept the veil removed between them during the talk with Frieda. It may be wrong, but it makes sense that memories are dominated by the Founding Titan, so for the Attack Titan to also be able to mess with it doesn't make as much sense as it was not something we seen at any other point in the anime until then, with the single exception of Kruger talking to Grisha at the warf. Which makes more sense that Eren was giving memories to Kruger and Grisha over different spans and points of time to manipulate them using the Founding Titan, rather than the Attack Titan.
Like grisha needed Eren inside Marley to become a warrior so he can get a titan and Needed Zeke inside the walls who has royal blood but isnt bound by the vow renouncing war its such a bummer that they were born in the wrong place at the wrong time. But its all acording to Eren's plan.
Probably, it won't be a spoiler to say that Zeke being snapped out of Grisha's memories in the end wasn't Eren's doing. It seems Zeke was so shocked by the plot twists (hell, just as us) that he quit replaying the memories on his own.
So, remember Eren repeating "Fight" in the mirror after the attack on Marley? A fan theory suggests that he was telling ALL the past Attack Titans to fight. Which is why it has always been independent and fought everyone. The Attack Titan has ALWAYS been Eren's will. This even explains the Restorationists. Eren wasn't following their will, they were following his as they were supported by The Owl (The Attack Titan).
So 1) the hand kiss scene was Eren kissing Historian’s hand, telling the audience that Eren saw the future from his father’s memories, that’s why he made the face after kissing her hand at the end of season 3 2) When Grisha “sees” Zeke it’s actually Eren looking at Zeke, but with the Attack titan’s future vision Grisha can see Zeke through Eren’s eyes, so Eren isn’t time traveling, he’s seeing past memories of his father and and is sending his memories to his father
so a great detail some people have put together is that in the early episodes, im talking episode 1 and 2 when Eren and the gang were kids, there's a man in a cloak with long hair a few times in the background, some people speculate that this is future Eren going down memory lane with Zeke
I just realized one moment. Grisha struggled to hold baby Eren a lot like if it was his only first child, not second. I wander is it an another hint how much Grisha neglected Zeke as a kid.
A fun little factoid is that Grisha NEVER sees Zeke or Eren with his own eyes. Grisha is seeing Eren’s memories, which means that Grisha is kinda looking at himself from another persons perspective. So I’m that last scene when Grisha was looking and talking to Zeke it was only because Eren was standing there and looking at the both of them
I'm pretty sure at one point in season 3 you asked "Wait how was Rod the only one that escaped?" and I thought "If I told you the answer would break your brain" because as we learn here Rod only escapes because Eren told Grisha to let Rod escape. ALSO, Zeke doesn't have The Founding Titan (not exactly), but he might as well have because typically the Founding Titan's power is used through Ymir by the royal family. However as we learned last episode, Eren holding the Founding Titan does not give him immediate control over Ymir, Zeke was able to figure out that he controls Ymir, at least for the duration they're in the Paths, because of his royal blood.
Anyone else still confused as to how this lineage connection thing works? I mean with this unlocked every shifter can pinball their consciousness across time itself and even converse with the deceased which can also affect the past and future..?
I say it every time someone reach this point, but i think that Eren is the son that Grisha would have wanted in Marley, a ruthless little shit that would go to any lenghts to get his freedom, and Zeke is the son he would have wanted on Paradi, a gentle soul that cares about his fellow man (even if it is a little twisted in how he cares).
Just to clarify: Eren is able to send memories back because he holds both the Attack and Founding Titan. Without the Founding, him touching Zeke (Titan w/royal blood) wouldn't send them to the Paths. In other words, the sending memories power is born in the future, but exists in the past through the Attack Titan.
FINALLY THIS MOMENT. When you think the plot is twisted enough, it goes for another 180, and yet, somehow, it still stays completely cohesive. To me, there is not a single other media that manages this without becoming a Swiss cheese of plot holes and unreasonable decisions from characters, but AoT feels planned from the minute details from the get go, it's insane.
Nah you theory was right, is just that since all memories are sent from when Eren has the funder it looks like the attack titan can see these memories for itself. But even if the attack titan can send visions these can only travel to the past thanks to the founders titan. Something like that, the ending of the manga fuck this power into plotholeland so i hope you get a new anime ending :D
The ironic thing is this is as much Zeke's fault as anyone else. Although Eren knew from the memories he saw when he kissed Historia's hand that Grisha had seen a vision of him, he probably didn't know how his words were going to impact him. That scene with Grisha in the basement was probably Eren "trying out" the attack titan's power for the first time and realizing he could affect past events, which is why he seems as shocked as Zeke when Grisha actually sees them the first time, and it's why he suddenly hurries Zeke along to the next memory, to not give Zeke time to realize what's happening. They wandered Grisha's memories for years because of Zeke, which gave Eren plenty of time to learn how to use the Attack Titan's power, so it was Zeke who gave Eren both the opportunities to use the power and to learn how to use it.
Also massive props on Grisha VA (Hiroshi Tsuchida), mf got few episodes but killed every second he was in, like the way his voice break, its not just pain and desperation, there is also so much confusion and regret and you can freaking hear and feel that, his performance is such a highlight for me in this episode (like this episode in general is easy one of my top 5 for many reasons)
This is such a crazy moment. But now you know why Eren has been so depressed. He saw this scene when he kissed Historia's hand. But I think Eren tried to prevent this. Even from what we've seen so far, Eren has acted at several points to avoid this inevitability.
There's what I call Eren the person and Eren the cosmic horror, because of the outside of time-ness of the paths realm technically Eren the cosmic horror came into existence first, once you come to that conclusion the creative juices lube the gears of thought and it informs you so much about the state of Eren the person (even if it's actually a single thing that you get it speaks volumes)
I know right!? 23:45 Grisha Yeager VA should receive an Oscar for this scene alone. 😂And to be honest he's not actually seeing Zeke. He can see him from Eren's POV. 😉Great reaction! 😃
If Eren has the ability to effect all past in heritors with his memories could it be possible that Eren Kruger knew about Grisha’s sister being killed, and so he kept Grisha at the zeppelin to allow her to be killed in the first place, meaning Eren could be the reason why Grisha’s daughter died in the first place.
The time future thing with the owl, your crackhead theory was right! Just the wrong Titan lol. All this time Grisha was seen as the one who had all the motivations and wouldn't back down from doing what he had to do. But as we learn here, and on the walls when he talks to the owl, there was always something that grisha himself couldn't get over to where he can do everything he needed to do. Aaron on the other hand didn't have that issue he'll do what he needs to do because he is that motivated. Man this show really does get better with each rewatch
It can be inferred that the entire order of events has been going exactly as it was written ever since the birth of the attack titan since the original wielder of it had to have been guided by fate to keep passing the attack titan down all the way up to eren. In that sense, everything that happened and will happen has already been destined to unravel because of it. Eren himself is a slave to fate despite him proclaiming that he is free, which is such a rich taste of irony when he hates everyone who isn't free. In short, there was no way to prevent this from happening unless the founding titan Ymir didn't become a titan in the first place.
Idk if you caught it or not I didn't my first watch and had it pointed out to me in other people's reactions but at 13:45 Griesha in the memory is staring straight at present day Eren that's part of why he looks so haunted afterwards.
Eren was disgusted by his father in that scene because he folded when it came to carrying out his own mission. If Eren never intervened the Attack Titan would’ve been taken and the fight would’ve been lost.
Yep. And there’s still some people who think that him “motivating” his dad was nothing more than an act of “pure evil”. It’s really sad how bad they are at understanding context.
If ever there were an episode that should be rewatched; this is it. With the context from the last 5 minutes the first 20 takes on a very different tone. Pay close attention to where Eren is looking at all times. Eren figures it out before the opening theme plays, but Zeke doesn't figure it out until Grisha explains it to them all.
The hype aroumd this reveal/plot twist when it was released first in the manga community was unreal😂😂. Literally one of the best written and thought out plot lines in anime history. Who's to say eren might've manipulated the acutal mangaka to write him and create AOT😂
You have no idea how validating this moment was for me. From season 2 I have been debating with my friends and saying that Eren is meant to be the villain of the story and how everything we see in earlier seasons sets up Eren to be the big villain at the end.
So, what happened with Eren kissing Historia's hand was that since Eren isn't Royal like the family that originally had it, he didn't have as much access to the Attack Titan's power. Touching Historia basically jump-started it.
Just putting this here really quick. I realized that Historia’s hand either this episode or next. I messed up when I saw it initially. Just wanted to say that before I get comments getting mad at me LOL anyways ❤ I plan on reading comments once I’m fully caught up with AOT I look forward to coming back and reading the comment section soon :D
Are you posting episode 21 tomorrow?
Once you’re caught up, will we get your reactions to the different openings and ending?
Who can gets mad at you? GIVE THEIR NAMES, I have a certain note book~
Also YOU WERE RIGHT!!!! (Only now noticed)
22:55 the shot symbolizes the moment he accessed HIS OWN FUTURE due to kissing Historia hand. (This scene of him INCITING HIS DADDY TO MURDER Till the disgusted look after his Dad told Zeke to STOP HIM at the end 27:00)
Basically All Titans powers are limited except when in contact with royal blood, Normally Attack Titan host can't see "own" future, founding Can't command, Beast can't issue commands etc... Imagine how strong the Warhammer would be if the host is a Royal !!!
BTW First time Eren Commanded Titans was in contact to his step mom Dina in her Titan form.
This whole season was just Eren sharing that his proper pronouns are I'm/Him
little does she know, eren was the one who convinced the author to write this, it was all his plan
Eren would probably do that.
She needs to see that meme of Eren hovering above the Tiktalik fish leaving the water for the first time and going "keep moving forward! Fight!"
Eren knew this would be your comment.
Eren knew I was gonna comment this before I was even born.
Eren didn't show the full thing so the author had to make his own ending... 💀
Could we just take a moment to applaude the stellar performance of Grisha's VA in this episode. Probably the best performance in the whole anime I'd say.
Nah. It's really good, but Yuki Kaji kills literally every scene he's in. He exceeds everyone and it's not even close.
@@aaronyayger I disagree. He's good and still has most of the best performances in AoT under his belt, but for me the best is still Grisha's VA in this episode.
BRO, the chills down my spine when he was losing his head hearing Eren talk...
After Killing the Reiss family and swaying around like a madman screaming was top tier voice acting for me, such a fucking haunting scene.
Zeke: "Admit it father, you brainwashed Eren to be bloodthirsty enough to serve your agenda!"
Grisha: "Nope, he's just like that."
"Father, you didn't brainwash Eren... he brainwashed you!"
Grisha : No, it was the total opposite
Gtisha : No it's all him, He just built different
I binged the whole series in 2022. The only thing I knew was that Eren becomes ....not good at some point. Didn't even know he becomes a Titan and shit. But, I do remember during the evacuation from Shiganshina, in the ferry Eren shouting at the titans and screaming that he'll kill them all. I remember thinking, "That boy ain't right".
@@a1001ku i think you wouldn't be right too, if your mon got painfully killed infront of you.
The part where Eren says “I’m no longer brainwashed” I’ve always interpreted as Eren speaking with a really flat sarcasm to spite Zeke and it makes it way funnier
he was being pretty obvious with his sarcasm there to rile Zeke on further - he needed Zeke to keep advancing to the chapel memories
23:10 End of 3rd season, when Eren kissed Historia's hand and everyone saw him freak out. You can connect the rest.
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This is why AOT is so good on the 2nd watch. So many little things make so much more sense in hindsight. The moment he kissed Historia's hand was the moment he changed. He saw everything...
I still think its really cute and wholesome that Grisha calls Mikasa his daughter, even though its only been roughly a year since she started to live with them.
Total agreement. It's such a small line yet it's so heart warming when you see it.
Eren’s gaslight is just…I can’t even.
You could see it on Grisha’s face how hard it was affecting him. The sounds, the zooming on his face and right to him picking up the scalpel was amazing!
Eren is probably worth thousands of gallons of gas for that one.
not exactly gaslighting if he is telling the truth tho
Eren propusly left things out like Crala dying so he clearly wasen't telling the whole truth.
@@samuelclayhills3298 Because he needed his dad to steal the Founder from Frieda. He was 100% telling the truth when reminding him of why he came to Paradis in the first place.
The revelation that Eren had manipulated everything from the very first episode is one of the biggest mind F@#% moments I have ever seen.
Not the very first tho. We didn't see anything like that no?
@@DorneysHouseofGames The scene where Grisha shows off the key to the basement is from episode 1 no?
@@reginaldmeta2762 gotten
Unfortunately, we can't have a good ol' happy ending without destroying the space time continuum
For me, it was way more of a mindfuck to realize there's most likely no free will in AoT, atleast not for eren and that the future is predetermined and unchangeable. That's why I wouldn't consider him a real Villain ; more like a victim to fate
Knew you would love this episode lol. I read where someone once said "Eren is the kid Grisha wanted in Marley when he wanted to restore Eldia, and Zeke is the kid he wanted on Paradis when he just wanted to love his family and spend time with them." He had so much sorrow and regret about Zeke and Dina and wanted to make it right with his new family, but Eren pushed him forward to complete his mission.
13:10 I mean Eren’s motives didn’t change much. The reason why he did everything was because he didn’t want to stay inside some walls like a caged animal, and like he said, he will take someone else’s life if it means to get free from this cages
Yea, it's more that, since we can't hear his inner thoughts. And how he portrays himself this season, that makes (on purpose mind you) is think he's different
An explanation of what really happened in this episode, I think it is worth to read ( no spoilers ) :
Two thousand years ago, the titans were born from the powers of Ymir and in the previous episode, Zeke told us that she is a slave of the royal family for unknown reasons ( it is ahead in story ). In this episode, Grisha tells us that the attack titan was created to fight the king's self-righteousness and that Frieda (the royal family) was unaware of it. In other words, Ymir would have created the attack titan behind the back of the royal family.
We know that each primordial can see the memories of its predecessors .But, in this episode, we learned that the attack titan has the power to read the memories of its future holders. This power, only Eren discovered it ( or got aware that attack titan have this power! ).By mistake, when Eren kissed Historia's hand, he saw his father memories ( what he saw and how is coming later… ).
In the episode, Grisha does not see Zeke, he sees himself, facing Zeke, from Eren's point of view. To be precise, Grisha got aware that the memories were of future since he saw himself facing zeke. This happened just because Eren shared his memories, by "mistake", revealing the presence of Zeke. From this moment, Grisha start understanding the power of the attack titan.
You can see Eren as a camera where he can choose, whenever he wants, to share his current vision to his predecessors. Then, to "know" the future, he has to share his vision to the predecessors and then see in Grisha's memories what's going to happen.
There can only be one future (obviously). So when Eren decided to share his memories to his predecessors which suited him the most for his goal achievement. And after achieving it he shares the memories by using the founders power ( which he got by ymir ).
When Eren shows his memories, he transmits them to all his predecessors simultaneously. Eren was saying "TATAKAE" in front of the mirror ( lol what an epic scene ) , he was actually sharing his memories and using the mirror so that his predecessors can see him. So, the first person who gets the attack titan two thousand years ago and sees Eren telling him "fight, if you don't fight, you can't win". Apart from this person, all those who inherited this titan thought they were seeing the memories of the first owner, when in fact, they were seeing the memories of the last owner of this titan.
Another thing: Now, we know why Kruger said "To save Mikasa, Armin, and everyone else, you must see it through.". In fact, everyone who had the attack titan knew they had to save Mikasa and Armin, but they didn't know it was the future.
In other words "the story is written from the end." Eren by sending memories writes everything , to be clear, the moment the attack titan was created by Ymir, the whole story was written and could not be changed ( since the future was already decided and fate cannot be changed ). Inevitably, the story was going to the future that Eren saw, and no one could change a thing ( from 2000 years ).
The more u think the more story is actually a paradox for example ; Grisha steals the founding titan --> Grisha gives both titans to Eren -> Eren can attack Marley -> He "kidnap" Zeke -> they "touch" each other -> they can travel in Grisha's memory -> Eren manipulate him to steal the founding titan -> ... (loop)
Another paradox:
Eren ordered Grisha to spare Rod Reiss -> So he is going to look for his daughter (Historia) -> he will get killed by her -> She will become the new Queen of paradis -> Eren will kiss her hand -> So he looks at his father's memories and see himself ordering to Grisha to spare Rod Reiss -> ... (loop)
Genius.
As always, Attack on Titan was Very well made.
You just open another Hugo conversation, I just had some new ideas or theories because of this long explanation, thanks
@@soul6733 Yup, pretty much.
I like this explenation - simple and to the point but doesn't skip any important parts.
I like to imagine Eren also accidentally sent the memory of Hange bullying him back into the past and it ends with him going “what do you want!?” Because it’s funny
Everyone did great work on this episode, but I will always sing praises for Grisha's voice actor here. Hiroshi Tsuchida really brought his A game in that ending scene. Those wails and cries of this broken man brings tears to my eyes every time. Grisha's a man who made a lot of mistakes and has been trying to do better the second time around, only to end up being manipulaed by his own son to throw away his morals for an uncertain, horrid future that he only has had glimpses of. It's kind of like a Greek tragedy.
Bro deserves an oscar for that performance
Eren kissing Historia's hand was the moment Eren realized the inevitability of what is to come. He saw the memories of Grisha, and in those memories, he saw HIMSELF manipulate the events from the future that led to where he is now. Hence how people thought he "changed" after the events of the battle of Shiganshina. It's just that he saw what is coming and there is nothing he can do but to "keep moving forward".
the attack titan is basically a feedback loop with memory's of the past and future endlessly driving them to the end
i think very few people realize how that would actually fuck up someones mind.
Zeke: Our father traumatized me.
Eren: I traumatized our father.
LMAO the accuracy of this comment is wild
Grisha's VA absolutely killed it this chapter, that breakdown scene was just *chef kiss*
Do love how Eren and Zeke's little trip down memory lane and in combination with the ability from the attack titans to see future inheiritors memories made some sort of feedback loop which allows Griesha to look into his own past although from 3rd (Erens) perspective. Didnt caught on that how it works before other people point it out in their theories. Isayama what a man you are!
I love that the official episode synopsis for this one could just be "You know what fucking episode this is"
In my opinion, this is the best episode of the series, It is just so god damn good
A fucked up thing is that Eren not just talked Grisha into doing it, he showed to him all the memories of all awful things that happened again so he could feel every moment from it again to gear him into bloodlust. He got played and manipulated to this point and didnt even get the courtesy of knowing when all would go down and if his wife would be ok.
Everyone's a slave to something. Just happens that Grisha was a slave to Eren, and his traumas which Eren could "motivate" him with.
eren said he was disgusted he meant he was disguted at what he saw his future self do
@@Redd-Monarch He was disgusted with his dad for turning his back on the mission because it would’ve fucked everything up for Paradis. He never manipulated his dad just for the sake of doing it. He doesn’t want his dad to let his sister’s , wife’s ,and friend’s deaths be in vain since he saw first hand what had happened to all of them back in S3
Everyone went bonkers when this plot twist came up in both manga and anime.
"It me Zeke. It was me all along."
You were right about Eren pushing his memories back. But it was using the Attack Titan ability.
This entire scenario only happened because Zeke used the founding Titan to show Eren Grisha’s memories. Because of the Attack Titan’s power Grisha was able to see the memories Eren gave him, which includes the ones he’s seeing now. Thus Grisha can see the things within Eren’s POV (which is how Grisha was able to see Zeke despite him not being physically present) and Eren and Zeke can see Grisha using the Founding Titan. Thus the past and the future could interact with each other and allow Eren to pull his 5D chess move.
I have no idea how they’re physically touching tho. I’m just gonna blame that on the animators or Founding Titan BS.
Grisha also hugged Zeke so probably more like Attack Titan memory shenanigans
Man, reading this part for the first time was crazy, and watching it for the first time was even crazier.
It’s a tiny detail, but it’s one that touches my heart greatly. Grisha refers to Mikasa as his daughter. Not the girl he brought in, but his daughter. Daughter.
Grisha learned Krueger’s lesson and took it to freaking heart.
This is the episode that cemented Attack on Titan as the greatest anime of all time.
Zeke: Eren, I have daddy issues
Eren: I am the daddy issues
Eren do be like: "It was me, Barry... I mean, Zeke"
Well, after a few viewings and a dozen reactions, I realised that Grisha is sincerely calling Mikasa his daughter.
If you look back in a few a of those memories Grisha is starring directly at future Erin, especially during the scene when he said he’d show him what’s in the basement
Everyone had a perfect little plan. But no one expected Eren to literally transcend the universe and rewrite the plot.
27:07 Eren asserting dominance
Yeah attack titan is basically a cockblock for the royal bloodline as well as the founding titan since it can determine whether it can win or not as it already knows the future it only depends whether the future inheritor will allow the passage of it's memory to be passed to the past inheritors
Zeke: Traumatized by Grisha
Eren: Traumatized Grisha
This is one of the best episodes of anything ever, I've ever seen... I had chills all the time and Eren is truly trrifying... Also Grisha's VA in this episode is out of this world!!!
Girl you were so right, you called that shit weeks ago
18:16 well it could be an unreliable narrator situation (wouldn't be the first time the show does this), we can guess that upon gaining coordinate access he retroactively sent that ability into the attack titan's lineage and it could be either a passive thing Eren put into the titan or that he took his infinite time within the paths realm to feed the correct type of stuff that would ensure things went "the only way they could have gone" that results in this show playing out as it did and he masks it as a passive skill so that they all believe that "the attack titans never bow down to anyone" including himself from the past, when in truth both the founding and the attack titans are slaves but one is a slave to a past inheritor and the other one to a future inheritor
Remember when Historia said to Eren that she is not blaming Eren for her family's death and it was Eren's father to blame alone. Yeah, good times.
Why would she even care about her family’s death? She got over it real quick after realizing what a bastard her dad was. They were never like a family to her. You can make an exception for Frieda but she kept erasing her memories anyway.
Effectively Eren influenced every previous holder of the Attack Titan. It’s just as Eren said, he’d never let his freedom be stolen by another, he’d rather steal theirs first.
That’s why holders of the Attack Titan never bowed others, because Eren never would. Eren IS the Attack Titan.
Can we take a second here to appreciate what Zeke is trying to prove to Eren, and how deeply fucked up it all is?
Zeke is trying his hardest to make Eren understand that, fundamentally, he has no right to exist. Not only him, but everyone he's ever known and loved.
In real world terms, Zeke would be a jewish person trying to convince another jewish person that they really, really should just give themselves to the Nazi to be killed, because neither of them have the right to exist as human beings.
I know we are seeing Eren behave as a villain, and he has flaws that lead up to that image of him; Alicia doesn't know yet what he plans to do with the Founding Titan, but we get the general impression that it's not a good thing since the attack on Liberio, but can we _really_ blame him now for these actions? The alternative to his current rebellion against what Paradis wants to do with Historia and against what Marley wants to do with all Eldians is the mere desire to have a right to exist.
We're talking about a world that has decided that Eren, his family, his friends, his entire country and world, do not deserve to exist and should all be exterminated. We are also dealing with a shitty Marley who, after finding an alternative to this horrible plan (letting Paradis exist inside the walls), decided to kill them anyways because they wanted some money. I'm sorry to say, but at this point Eren might be a villain, but so is every other faction in this world.
Well in this timeline the jews have superpowers that make them better than everyone else and they have activley used those powers to rule every other nation and massacare those who resist so the man has a genuine point.
Alicia was probably paying attention on subtitle and didn't notice that when Grisha talked to Eren about the key, he was actually looking at the eyes of the adult Eren.
There are theories (that I personaly believe to be true) that the attack titan can't actually see the momories of it's future inheritors, but that Eren used the founding titan's godly power to send his memories to the past and influence everything. That makes a bit more sense to me rather than it just being a weird little fun fact about the attack titan but that's just me
Symbolically, it makes more sense for the Attack Titan to see the future. It's been told that no matter the era, it kept moving forward against the odds.
There's also the bit of symbolism, but that's spoilers for the end of AoT so I'll just put it after a warning
Spoilers:
Everyone was so caught up in past disagreements, wars, everything that it prevent the people from moving forward to live peacefully. Eren's plan to become the villain was successful, which then let people see a brighter future.
it's not a fun fact, it was foreshadowed through out the whole show and every titan has it's own unique ability 😭
Yeah the Attack Titan is one hell of a titan. It might just be one titan but it's like all iterations/inheritors are collaborating with one another to get to a specific path. And apparently, all the inheritors never bowed to anyone. I guess it's another trait. Just like all Royal Founding Titans inherit The King's vow, all Attack Titans inherit this innate will to oppose and create its own path. And I believe the Attack Titan was created like that deliberately. For reasons yet to be revealed.
Congrats on getting the future memories right. I can't wait for the next episodes.
Also, 23:55 the power of great production and writing. This twist that Grisha was actually a good man who learned from his mistakes but was manipulated by Eren; that character animation/acting that you rarely see in an anime series; that voice acting and accompanying score. All created this powerful moment.
Youre a whole genius lol never seen someone figure it out this fast
23:04 Here, when he kissed Historia's hand, he witnessed what would happen in the future when he met Zeke, his head was cut off, and particulary this moment also, and the future that did not appear after that moment, Eren began to change.
I have my own theory about what happened in this episode.
The Founding Titan's trait is its ability to manipulate memories, and it was only thanks to Zeke that Eren was able to interact with his father in the first place by bringing them into the memories.
My belief is that the Attack Titan is actually an incomplete existence, or rather mostly dormant, until he gains access to the Founding Titan's power. I believe its true power is not that it's able to gift memories to the past, but rather interact with the Attack Titan's inheritors directly (including other Attack Titan inheritors being able to see them, which is why Grisha knows where Eren is at all times when talking to Frieda).
With the combination of the Founding Titan + Attack Titan, it granted Eren the ability to both enter the past's memories (Founding Titan's power), and give him the ability to physically interact with those connected to the Attack Titan (Attack Titan's power). We see physical interaction happen between both Eren to Grisha (when he shook him on the shoulder), and Grisha to Zeke (when Grisha hugged Zeke). Grisha was interacted with before he even held the Founding Titan's power, so he only has access to the Attack Titan's power, which is what allowed him to hug Zeke. The reason Zeke can be seen and held by Grisha is because Zeke is currently connected to Eren's Attack Titan through the Founding Titan, and thanks to Eren's Founding Titan the veil that prevented the Attack Titan's ability from working was removed.
Back when Grisha seen Zeke in the basement, Eren noticed something, that something being the Attack Titan's ability to see those connected to it from the future, by the Founding Titan removing the veil even for a moment. Even would then continue to experiment with this, as seen when Grisha was showing off the key, Eren removed the veil for Grisha to see him, and kept the veil removed between them during the talk with Frieda.
It may be wrong, but it makes sense that memories are dominated by the Founding Titan, so for the Attack Titan to also be able to mess with it doesn't make as much sense as it was not something we seen at any other point in the anime until then, with the single exception of Kruger talking to Grisha at the warf. Which makes more sense that Eren was giving memories to Kruger and Grisha over different spans and points of time to manipulate them using the Founding Titan, rather than the Attack Titan.
Like grisha needed Eren inside Marley to become a warrior so he can get a titan and Needed Zeke inside the walls who has royal blood but isnt bound by the vow renouncing war its such a bummer that they were born in the wrong place at the wrong time. But its all acording to Eren's plan.
Seems like they were all "Sleeping slaves to fate"...
Probably, it won't be a spoiler to say that Zeke being snapped out of Grisha's memories in the end wasn't Eren's doing. It seems Zeke was so shocked by the plot twists (hell, just as us) that he quit replaying the memories on his own.
So, remember Eren repeating "Fight" in the mirror after the attack on Marley? A fan theory suggests that he was telling ALL the past Attack Titans to fight. Which is why it has always been independent and fought everyone. The Attack Titan has ALWAYS been Eren's will. This even explains the Restorationists. Eren wasn't following their will, they were following his as they were supported by The Owl (The Attack Titan).
So 1) the hand kiss scene was Eren kissing Historian’s hand, telling the audience that Eren saw the future from his father’s memories, that’s why he made the face after kissing her hand at the end of season 3
2) When Grisha “sees” Zeke it’s actually Eren looking at Zeke, but with the Attack titan’s future vision Grisha can see Zeke through Eren’s eyes, so Eren isn’t time traveling, he’s seeing past memories of his father and and is sending his memories to his father
so a great detail some people have put together is that in the early episodes, im talking episode 1 and 2 when Eren and the gang were kids, there's a man in a cloak with long hair a few times in the background, some people speculate that this is future Eren going down memory lane with Zeke
BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR YOU TO HIT THIS REVEAL!!
What AOT does to a person: 25:52 we can see Alicia absolutely loosing her shit xD
I just realized one moment. Grisha struggled to hold baby Eren a lot like if it was his only first child, not second. I wander is it an another hint how much Grisha neglected Zeke as a kid.
Eren's so good at brainwashing that half the fanbase still think he's the good guy even after this episode goddamn
A fun little factoid is that Grisha NEVER sees Zeke or Eren with his own eyes. Grisha is seeing Eren’s memories, which means that Grisha is kinda looking at himself from another persons perspective. So I’m that last scene when Grisha was looking and talking to Zeke it was only because Eren was standing there and looking at the both of them
That chapter/episode is one of the biggest mindfucks :D Can't wait for tomorrow now!
I'm pretty sure at one point in season 3 you asked "Wait how was Rod the only one that escaped?" and I thought "If I told you the answer would break your brain" because as we learn here Rod only escapes because Eren told Grisha to let Rod escape. ALSO, Zeke doesn't have The Founding Titan (not exactly), but he might as well have because typically the Founding Titan's power is used through Ymir by the royal family. However as we learned last episode, Eren holding the Founding Titan does not give him immediate control over Ymir, Zeke was able to figure out that he controls Ymir, at least for the duration they're in the Paths, because of his royal blood.
Anyone else still confused as to how this lineage connection thing works? I mean with this unlocked every shifter can pinball their consciousness across time itself and even converse with the deceased which can also affect the past and future..?
I say it every time someone reach this point, but i think that Eren is the son that Grisha would have wanted in Marley, a ruthless little shit that would go to any lenghts to get his freedom, and Zeke is the son he would have wanted on Paradi, a gentle soul that cares about his fellow man (even if it is a little twisted in how he cares).
Just to clarify: Eren is able to send memories back because he holds both the Attack and Founding Titan. Without the Founding, him touching Zeke (Titan w/royal blood) wouldn't send them to the Paths. In other words, the sending memories power is born in the future, but exists in the past through the Attack Titan.
This was the episode I was waiting for
FINALLY THIS MOMENT.
When you think the plot is twisted enough, it goes for another 180, and yet, somehow, it still stays completely cohesive.
To me, there is not a single other media that manages this without becoming a Swiss cheese of plot holes and unreasonable decisions from characters, but AoT feels planned from the minute details from the get go, it's insane.
There's a select few episodes that I've just been ITCHING for you to get to. all I can say now that you're here is HELL YEAH.
Nah you theory was right, is just that since all memories are sent from when Eren has the funder it looks like the attack titan can see these memories for itself. But even if the attack titan can send visions these can only travel to the past thanks to the founders titan. Something like that, the ending of the manga fuck this power into plotholeland so i hope you get a new anime ending :D
The ironic thing is this is as much Zeke's fault as anyone else. Although Eren knew from the memories he saw when he kissed Historia's hand that Grisha had seen a vision of him, he probably didn't know how his words were going to impact him. That scene with Grisha in the basement was probably Eren "trying out" the attack titan's power for the first time and realizing he could affect past events, which is why he seems as shocked as Zeke when Grisha actually sees them the first time, and it's why he suddenly hurries Zeke along to the next memory, to not give Zeke time to realize what's happening. They wandered Grisha's memories for years because of Zeke, which gave Eren plenty of time to learn how to use the Attack Titan's power, so it was Zeke who gave Eren both the opportunities to use the power and to learn how to use it.
Also massive props on Grisha VA (Hiroshi Tsuchida), mf got few episodes but killed every second he was in, like the way his voice break, its not just pain and desperation, there is also so much confusion and regret and you can freaking hear and feel that, his performance is such a highlight for me in this episode (like this episode in general is easy one of my top 5 for many reasons)
This is such a crazy moment. But now you know why Eren has been so depressed. He saw this scene when he kissed Historia's hand. But I think Eren tried to prevent this. Even from what we've seen so far, Eren has acted at several points to avoid this inevitability.
There's what I call Eren the person and Eren the cosmic horror, because of the outside of time-ness of the paths realm technically Eren the cosmic horror came into existence first, once you come to that conclusion the creative juices lube the gears of thought and it informs you so much about the state of Eren the person (even if it's actually a single thing that you get it speaks volumes)
I know right!? 23:45 Grisha Yeager VA should receive an Oscar for this scene alone. 😂And to be honest he's not actually seeing Zeke. He can see him from Eren's POV. 😉Great reaction! 😃
"Who let this man cook" LMAO
I have been waiting for this episode for so long!😊
If Eren has the ability to effect all past in heritors with his memories could it be possible that Eren Kruger knew about Grisha’s sister being killed, and so he kept Grisha at the zeppelin to allow her to be killed in the first place, meaning Eren could be the reason why Grisha’s daughter died in the first place.
The fact Zeke made the entire story possible by accident by trying to flex is hilarious to me.
Not trying to flex, trying to save Eren
Even wrote the plot basically. Also Grisha making it to top 5 AoT characters eben after death, that voice acting!
I bet he gaslighted the mangaka to publish this story IRL.
Can we all just say, MAPPA Absolutely Nailed this? This was so good.
Eren out here playing 8D chess fr
The time future thing with the owl, your crackhead theory was right! Just the wrong Titan lol. All this time Grisha was seen as the one who had all the motivations and wouldn't back down from doing what he had to do. But as we learn here, and on the walls when he talks to the owl, there was always something that grisha himself couldn't get over to where he can do everything he needed to do. Aaron on the other hand didn't have that issue he'll do what he needs to do because he is that motivated. Man this show really does get better with each rewatch
It can be inferred that the entire order of events has been going exactly as it was written ever since the birth of the attack titan since the original wielder of it had to have been guided by fate to keep passing the attack titan down all the way up to eren. In that sense, everything that happened and will happen has already been destined to unravel because of it.
Eren himself is a slave to fate despite him proclaiming that he is free, which is such a rich taste of irony when he hates everyone who isn't free. In short, there was no way to prevent this from happening unless the founding titan Ymir didn't become a titan in the first place.
Thanks Ymir also that fucking pig was behind everything after all.
Your dad traumatizes you?
Traumitize him back LMAO
Zeke's emotional trauma has hit nuclear levels
This is the episode where main character from antagonist change to be a protagonist.
Zeke: “I will show you how your father manipulated you, brother!”
Also Zeke: (whitenesses his brother manipulating Grisha) “oh…oh no.”
Idk if you caught it or not I didn't my first watch and had it pointed out to me in other people's reactions but at 13:45 Griesha in the memory is staring straight at present day Eren that's part of why he looks so haunted afterwards.
Eren was disgusted by his father in that scene because he folded when it came to carrying out his own mission. If Eren never intervened the Attack Titan would’ve been taken and the fight would’ve been lost.
Yep. And there’s still some people who think that him “motivating” his dad was nothing more than an act of “pure evil”. It’s really sad how bad they are at understanding context.
If ever there were an episode that should be rewatched; this is it. With the context from the last 5 minutes the first 20 takes on a very different tone. Pay close attention to where Eren is looking at all times.
Eren figures it out before the opening theme plays, but Zeke doesn't figure it out until Grisha explains it to them all.
It’s all part of Eren’s failsafe plan
The hype aroumd this reveal/plot twist when it was released first in the manga community was unreal😂😂. Literally one of the best written and thought out plot lines in anime history. Who's to say eren might've manipulated the acutal mangaka to write him and create AOT😂
Zeke: "I can start the euthanization plan whenever I want. I'm in charge here."
Eren: "Do you feel in charge?"
Imagine being traumatised by your father, just traumatise him back
Fyi when Eren kissed historia’s hand he got future memories of everything that happens past the moment he kissed her hand
One of the best episodes for sure, thanks for all the ride till here Alicia, hope you are having fun
This is one of the moments I've been waiting for you to watch, this show is just so 🔥🔥🔥
On the positive side, I think you mentioned that all Zeke needed was a hug. Silver lining
Btw how Eren did it was Eren sent his memories to Grisha and when Eren kissed Historia's hand he saw his future memories through Grisha's eyes
You have no idea how validating this moment was for me. From season 2 I have been debating with my friends and saying that Eren is meant to be the villain of the story and how everything we see in earlier seasons sets up Eren to be the big villain at the end.
Eren Jaegar: Gaslight, Gatekeep, Big Boss
So, what happened with Eren kissing Historia's hand was that since Eren isn't Royal like the family that originally had it, he didn't have as much access to the Attack Titan's power. Touching Historia basically jump-started it.