Do Americans not use Bosch drills? I searched for reviews on RUclips and got a UK tool review channel and now this video from South Africa. I guess Americans only use Dewalt and Milwaukee. haha. A 13mm chuck? Very cool!
Hi, Agreed... It doesn't seem like Bosch is very popular in America when compared to DeWalt and Milwaukee. Bosch and Makita are pretty popular in South Africa though... and DeWalt is slowly gaining popularity here. Yip... 13mm chuck is pretty standard on drills this sided, and many drill bit box sets go up to 13mm here.
I feel like I’m completely alone in liking Bosch. People here love the routers and one or two sanders but no, Bosch is not popular over here and I have no idea why. Europe definitely gets way cooler stuff than we do but I’ve loved everything I’ve bought so far
Hi got a new question for you if I wanted to attempt to put a side handle on it hopefully it would work ok if I tighten it over the chuck or is there some concept I am missing ? thoughts please thank you
You can't put a side handle on this model of drill (only on the larger more powerful models). The chuck spins so you shouldn't mount anything to it at all.
Dear Grant, I have two identical cordless screwdrivers from this GBS 18-55 series. With one, the emergency brake works, the 'click' doesn't work, and the machine only stops with overrun. Since that bothers me a lot, I gradually dismantled the gearbox of the machine using your video as a guide. Furthermore, I cleaned all parts and greased them generously with special grease and lo and behold, everything works PERFECTLY. thanks to your video! -:) Thank you and best regards Manuela / Vienna **original Text** Lieber Grant, ich habe zwei baugleiche Akkuschrauber dieser Serie GBS 18-55. Bei einem funktioniert die Schnellbremse, das „klack“ nicht, und die Maschine stoppt nur mit Nachlauf. Nachdem mich das sehr stört, habe ich das Getriebe der Maschine mit deinem Video als Anleitung nach und nach zerlegt. Weiteres, habe ich alle Teile gereinigt und großzügig mit Spezialfett eingefettet und siehe da, es funktioniert alles PERFEKT, dank deines Videos!! -:) Vielen Dank und beste Grüße Manuela
Hi Manuela, thanks very much for your comment and I'm very happy to hear that the video was able to help you. It's always a good feeling to repair something. Nice to hear from you and best regards.
Is this still their best one for an 18V-20V? Do you have any recommendation that is better than this Bosch 18v-50, preferably a Bosch model also or Dewalt WITH ANTIKICKBACK?
Yeah, the Bosch 18V-150 C is a bigger more powerful drill that has KickBack Control... I've actually got access to one of these 18V-150 drills to test and review but I must still get around to that sometime in the future hopefully.
Hi, as @dimatall mentioned... The GSR models don't have a hammer function and the GSB models have the hammer function. You'll also notice the GSR models are a little smaller (shorter) than the GSB models because of this.
Hi Mr. Freeman... It does have a small amount of wobble which you can see at 16:25 however i don't think it will pose any problem as its not much, and you won't notice it especially during handheld drilling.
superb video , i was looking for an cordless brushless drill /driver which can be used for screwdriving and drilling wood/metal/masonary considering GSB 185 ki kit now, available in India with goodwill enterprises
The comparison with the DeWalt is not fair, the DeWalt is an an hammer (hamerboormachine) whilst the Bosch is a impact driver (klopboormachine). Not quite sure whether I translated it correctly, but the main difference is the ability to drill into concrete. The DeWalt is built for that, the Bosch is not.
Hi freakie1NL, I agree 100% that's it't not a fair comparison... however please keep in mind that this is not a comparison video in which we compare the DeWalt SDS against the Bosch GSB18v-50 to show which one is better than the other. I show the DeWalt SDS drilling through the concrete brick to create a reference point to gauge what the Bosch GSB is capable of (or not capable of) in Hammer Mode. General DIY users may assume that having a hammer drill mode means they can use the machine to drill into brick and concrete, and that's not the case. While the Bosch may be able to drill a few small holes in low strength concrete, it will chew through bits quickly and pretty soon wear out the machine if thats what it's being used for. The translation is slightly out... an 'impact driver' uses a hammer and anvil arrangement which drives rotation... but thanks, I know what you mean. Thanks for the comment 😁
Hi, there is an impact driver, I just haven’t got around to making a video of it yet. There is actually a nunber of Bosch battery tools I have access to, and that I still need to make the videos for… hoping to get around to that soon.
I just bought what I believe to be the same drill, but I may have got a slightly older model. I got a material case and 3 batteries but not the ones that indicate the charge. The drill itself seems identical. Almost bought it for R3499 at Makro but then found it at Builders for R2700 on promo. I'm not sure if it's packaged differently for Builders or slightly older. Does anyone here know?
Hi Bruce, with many of these tools (across various brands) there are a few different configurations of kits that are available, usually denoted by the last letters of the kits model number as I recall... normally the tool will be the same, but other items like you mention, may differ... like hard case vs material bag, or three batteries instead of two, or different capacity batteries, or a fast vs slow charger, or tool only options. I'm not an expert on it, but thats just what I seem to have noticed over time. If the model number on the drill is the same, then it's the same drill 👍
I think the Bosch GSB 500 RE Impact drill would be better for drilling concrete compared to the GSB 180 LI… but only for small holes. If you intent to drill concrete or masonry, a rotary hammer drill is a far better choice (SDS rotary hammer). As for an electric screwdriver, it depends what you are trying to screw / unscrew but the GSB 180 Li will be more powerful at screwing compared to the GO Gen 2.0
One critical problem with Milwaukee brushless M18 drills is the awful sound of the motor. The Bosch doesn't appear to be making the same horrendous "sharp" scream from the motor windings. The M18 brushless drills seem to produce a sound akin to a small air raid siren. I won't buy another M18 drill until they solve the sound problem, they require hearing protection to drill a basic hole. This Bosch is next on my list, it's a beautiful drill.
I’m glad someone else mentioned this. My M18 drives me nuts, and everyone else says the noise is barely there….i disagree. So much so that I brought a Bosch professional to replace it. Much better experience all around so far.
Hey Grant, thanks for the reviews. I've been looking for a good hammer drill for concrete but hate corded tool. Do you recommend gsb 185 instead? I can't seem to decide...
Hi Erka, I wouldn't recommend it at all... it's the 'wrong' tool for the job. For drilling into concrete, you are better off using a rotary hammer (SDS) drill... thats the right tool for the job. In the video, this is seen when I used the Dewalt rotary hammer to drill through the concrete brick where the normal 'hammer' drill was battling. As an example, if you are looking for Bosch, something like this amzn.to/3JIyVx5
Hi Chilk Ling, the Bosch GSB 185Li and 18v-50 both have very similar specs and functions however the 185Li is a light duty drill compared to the 18v-50. The 185Li has a smaller body / outer case and has lighter duty internal wiring and connections and also a light duty gearbox compared to the 18v-50 model. Overall the 18v-50 is a stronger more heavy duty drill.
I got mine Friday used it for a few hours yesterday repairing some cupboards and today on some garage door repairs. Good piece of kit I had the normal GSB 18v before which was stolen hence this replacement. Its on special at builders at the moment in a nylon case with 3x 2ah batteries and charger for 2999.
Hi Nigel, thanks for the comment. A cordless drill is pretty handy to have around the house for all the DIY repairs, etc. There is also a teardown video if you interested at seeing whats inside ruclips.net/video/0pFq8S_gkBk/видео.html
Hi Nigel, I am just interested in confirming the Batteries you got in the box, was it definitely 3 x 2Ah Batteries and not perhaps only 2? The kits at Builders, Makro etc. seems to have maximum 2 x Batteries. Thanks, Reinhard.
@@rrensburg Hi mine came in soft corduroy case with charger and 3 X 2AH batteries I have some pics of the packaging etc just don't know how to post them here.1 battery was fitted on drill and the other 2 were packaged inside the case in a brown cardboard box.
Hi Nigel, if you want, you're welcome to email the pics to me at grantburtonbuilds@gmail.com and I'll upload them to my post feed on RUclips for Reinhard to see.
Aside from drilling small holes in brick or concrete, are there other uses around the house for the GSB18V-50? I would like a new brushless cordless drill, but wondering if I should get this particular drill that includes a hammer mode.
Hi, for the convenience of having the hammer mode when you need to drill one or two small holes around the house, hanging pictures, curtain rails, etc into brick... I think it's worth having the hammer mode. For anything more, I would get an SDS rotary hammer. Just today I installed pegboards at a friends place and drilled 55 small holes into brickwork (6mm), used the SDS all the way. The hammer mode on a combi-drill could have possibly done it, but not nearly as quickly and would have required much more effort.
For small holes into masonry, it's ok, but none of these drills (no matter what brand) are the best for drilling large holes into masonry or concrete... some brands work better than others but for that type of drilling, it's best to use a rotary hammer drill (SDS)
I have 1 that came in a set that came with angle grinder a sander, bag, a driver, 2X 5ah batteries all brushless both batteries failed with in 12 months rather annoying
@@GrantBurton no I took them apart and repairs them, 2 cells in each of them were bad I order 4 new cells and replaced the bad ones, they have 10 cells in each battery I couldn't find the receipt for them which was a bummer as the set cost $960, I've also have 2x 6ah batteries coming, apart from the batteries there really good tools, all are pretty powerful the 5" random orbit sander and the 5" angle grinder are really good
There is a very small amount of wobbling (as can be seen in the video) but it’s such a small amount, it’s nothing to worry about. It doesn’t affect the accuracy of holes when hand drilling. This amount of runout / wobbling wouldn’t be acceptable if this was in a drill press though.
@@GrantBurton I've just started using this device, and the chuck has noticeable wobbling. I tested the drill with a few short bits, and the wobbling doesn't transfer to them. I also checked it with a longer spade bit, and there the deviations are quite strong (possibly a bent bit but it's new one). That's strange for equipment of this class. Regards
The Bosch GSB 185Li and GSB 18v-50 both have very similar specs and functions however the GSB 185Li is a light duty drill compared to the GSB 18v-50. The 185Li has a smaller body / outer case and has lighter duty internal wiring and connections and also a light duty gearbox compared to the GSB 18v-50 model. The GSB 18V-50 is physically larger and it's case has more rubberising protection around it Overall I think the GSB 18v-50 is a stronger more heavy duty drill.
Thankfully this time it all worked out... I have purchased an item online in the past (camera gimbal), which arrived and after unboxing, I could see it had been opened and actually dropped by somebody else before (definitely not from the factory like that)... thankfully there was no quibble about returning the item and having a replacement one sent... this time around it was definitely brand new.
Great video Grant. Coming from the GSB 18-2-Li PLUS I need a slow RPM start on trigger pull for screw work mainly. Would you know which of the 18v-50 or the 185-Li might have the slowest RPM start on trigger pull. The less expensive 180-Li tends to jump from zero to like 20 RPM which is not optimal.
Hi Patrick, thanks very much. I was playing around with 185Li in Strand Hardware in Port Elizabeth a few weeks ago but can't remember how the slow speed start performed (Don't think it was something I was specifically looking at). I'll pop past there again soon and compare, then get back to you. Hopefully they still have both models on display. What type of screw work requires such a slow start? Maybe an electric screw driver will be better suited to the work?
Hi Patrick, I have the 185-Li model, the startup speed on gear 1 is the same as 180-Li model. I use it mainly on gear 2 for drilling. For screwing I have other brands like hikoki or makita which have slow initial rotation speed. At my workplace I have bosch 12v-15, it is super slow and fine in gear 1.
Hi Thiago, between the two drills you mention, I would rather take the Dewalt 778 because it is more powerful than the Bosch however it really depends on which eco system you want to buy into. Batteries are pretty expensive so once you have started buying into a specific brand, it's cheaper to stick with that brand because you'll only be buying 'bare' tools and swapping the batteries between the tools. It also depends on thew range of tools available wherever you are.... no good buying into a Brand if they have limited support and only a hand full of tools available in the area.
@@GrantBurton alright! Bosch has the biggest support of all well known brands here in Brazil (Bosch, dewalt and makita are the most used ones). Bosch gear is also a little bit cheaper than Dewalt, so I’m probably going with 18v50. 778 is indeed more powerful, specially when drilling concrete, but excluding raw power looks like Bosch is better on anything else (prices, support / warranty / features, etc)
@@fivinh0 Makita is also a very good brand so maybe look at their stuff, although it depends what you want to do with the tools. I you are doing basic DIY stuff, then the entry level tools will be ok... but if you are dong 'contractor' type work, I wouldn't cheap out... rather buy the more expensive and better quality drill as it will likely give you better service life. Out of those three Brands you mentioned, I would choose Makita and Dewalt over Bosch. (Makita has their 'home DIY' range which is 'Makita MT' and the more contractor type tools which are straight 'Makita' - similar to Bosch green for home use and the Bosch Professional (blue) which is better than the green range). I wouldn't be making any comparisons of these types of drills and making any decisions based on their ability to drill concrete... All of them are not great... they have very basic hammer action and you'll just end up damaging / wearing out your drill unnecessarily and pretty fast. If you need to drill concrete, you need to get a rotary hammer drill.
Hi Oliver, the Bosch GSB 185Li and 18v-50 both have very similar specs and functions however the 185Li is a light duty drill compared to the 18v-50. The 185Li has a smaller body / outer case and has lighter duty internal wiring and connections and also a light duty gearbox compared to the 18v-50 model. Overall the 18v-50 is a stronger more heavy duty drill.
@@GrantBurton Thanks man! Oh, by the way, Bosch usually ships their tool kits with battery inserted in the power tool itself.. I don't know why either. All my tool kits are sealed, and all of them have their batteries inserted as well.
If you can afford it, I would still get the GSB model (with hammer function) just to have the option to drill small holes (5mm or 6mm) in brickwork for hanging up pictures, etc. if the need arises.
@@GrantBurton yes it's work really well for my job I do building maintenance so the specs are just fine for my needs I don't really use the hammer function 22,000 bpm is low for that we use the 18 v bulldog for home I use Ridgid/AEG they work just fine for that use I would have liked a case like you got but hear they tend to give bags
@@bluemantom77 Great to hear it's working well. I don't own one and have never used one but I believe the original Bosch bulldogs are known to be awesome SDS drills... long lasting and hard working machines. I have mixed thoughts about hard cases... sometimes it's been nice carrying a hard case and all is neatly packed inside but other times, it's much more convenient to throw all the power tools loose into one bag and carry to site like that (less to carry). In the workshop, both bags and cases get tossed.
@@GrantBurton I personally don't own one it belongs to my job but I told my boss if he had to buy a new ones give one he will who knows if I'm still going to be there in the future holds
@@GrantBurton Yep, true, when needed. Nonetheless thanks for your video, helped a lot in my decision. You can make a video about the GSB-18V-150C too! it's Bangin!
Hi! Nice review! 4:49 first time I hear about this type of protection, but what are the values of this "permitted operating temperature" range? I hope it is not a rubbish [0...40] range...
Hi paulbt, I'm not sure what the exact range is but from what the manual says, it sounds like it's just overload protection (that is based on temperature) so you don't burn out the transistors in the speed control or motor windings (If you putting the drill under to much load and pulling to much current through the speed control, the transistors will heat up and before they get to hot and burn out, the power is reduced to limit damage to the transistors / motor).
You are not comparing the two Drills (bosch and Dewalt) because, the Dewalt you used is a rotary drill and the setting is hammer, while the setting is only the Bosch drill, they should have the same hammer setting so we can know which one is stronger. in two and the drill bits of dewalt are different than bosch dull
Hi Manzera, thanks for your comment. The video is not intended to be a comparison video in which we compare the DeWALT SDS rotary hammer drill against the Bosch GSB18v-50 to show which one is better or stronger than the other... they are totally different drills. I show the DeWALT SDS drilling through the a concrete brick to create a reference point to gauge what the Bosch GSB is capable of (or not capable of) in Hammer Mode. General DIY users may assume that having a hammer drill mode means they can use the machine to drill into brick and concrete, and that's not the case. While the Bosch may be able to drill a few small holes in low strength concrete, it will chew through bits quickly and pretty soon wear out the machine if thats what it's being used for. Hope this clears things up.
Hi Mixo, I don’t think this drill has enough power to warrant the need (and extra cost) for a supporting handle… the motor will eventually burn out if it’s put under that load while holding the support handle. When you start getting to the higher power drills… definitely a support handle is nice to have.
Do Americans not use Bosch drills? I searched for reviews on RUclips and got a UK tool review channel and now this video from South Africa. I guess Americans only use Dewalt and Milwaukee. haha. A 13mm chuck? Very cool!
Hi, Agreed... It doesn't seem like Bosch is very popular in America when compared to DeWalt and Milwaukee. Bosch and Makita are pretty popular in South Africa though... and DeWalt is slowly gaining popularity here. Yip... 13mm chuck is pretty standard on drills this sided, and many drill bit box sets go up to 13mm here.
I feel like I’m completely alone in liking Bosch. People here love the routers and one or two sanders but no, Bosch is not popular over here and I have no idea why. Europe definitely gets way cooler stuff than we do but I’ve loved everything I’ve bought so far
Hi got a new question for you if I wanted to attempt to put a side handle on it hopefully it would work ok if I tighten it over the chuck or is there some concept I am missing ? thoughts please thank you
You can't put a side handle on this model of drill (only on the larger more powerful models). The chuck spins so you shouldn't mount anything to it at all.
Dear Grant,
I have two identical cordless screwdrivers from this GBS 18-55 series. With one, the emergency brake works, the 'click' doesn't work, and the machine only stops with overrun. Since that bothers me a lot, I gradually dismantled the gearbox of the machine using your video as a guide. Furthermore, I cleaned all parts and greased them generously with special grease and lo and behold, everything works PERFECTLY. thanks to your video! -:)
Thank you and best regards Manuela / Vienna
**original Text**
Lieber Grant,
ich habe zwei baugleiche Akkuschrauber dieser Serie GBS 18-55. Bei einem funktioniert die Schnellbremse, das „klack“ nicht, und die Maschine stoppt nur mit Nachlauf. Nachdem mich das sehr stört, habe ich das Getriebe der Maschine mit deinem Video als Anleitung nach und nach zerlegt. Weiteres, habe ich alle Teile gereinigt und großzügig mit Spezialfett eingefettet und siehe da, es funktioniert alles PERFEKT, dank deines Videos!! -:)
Vielen Dank und beste Grüße Manuela
Hi Manuela, thanks very much for your comment and I'm very happy to hear that the video was able to help you. It's always a good feeling to repair something. Nice to hear from you and best regards.
Is this still their best one for an 18V-20V? Do you have any recommendation that is better than this Bosch 18v-50, preferably a Bosch model also or Dewalt WITH ANTIKICKBACK?
18-150 or 18-535
Yeah, the Bosch 18V-150 C is a bigger more powerful drill that has KickBack Control... I've actually got access to one of these 18V-150 drills to test and review but I must still get around to that sometime in the future hopefully.
@@GrantBurton thanks. I saw 18V-90 C and it has kickback.
arent the brushless ones the GSR instead of GSB?
GSR - no hammer, GSB - has hammer. These letters don’t let you know the motor type. The whole name does.
Hi, as @dimatall mentioned... The GSR models don't have a hammer function and the GSB models have the hammer function. You'll also notice the GSR models are a little smaller (shorter) than the GSB models because of this.
Does it have chuck wobble?
As the otherday I was checking on my local Gartenbau and stumbled across this and when I picked it up it felt cheap :(
Hi Mr. Freeman... It does have a small amount of wobble which you can see at 16:25 however i don't think it will pose any problem as its not much, and you won't notice it especially during handheld drilling.
You don't even know how to drill xD
superb video , i was looking for an cordless brushless drill /driver which can be used for screwdriving and drilling wood/metal/masonary
considering GSB 185 ki kit now, available in India with goodwill enterprises
Thanks very much. Once you have your new drill, let us know what you think about it.
The comparison with the DeWalt is not fair, the DeWalt is an an hammer (hamerboormachine) whilst the Bosch is a impact driver (klopboormachine). Not quite sure whether I translated it correctly, but the main difference is the ability to drill into concrete. The DeWalt is built for that, the Bosch is not.
Hi freakie1NL, I agree 100% that's it't not a fair comparison... however please keep in mind that this is not a comparison video in which we compare the DeWalt SDS against the Bosch GSB18v-50 to show which one is better than the other.
I show the DeWalt SDS drilling through the concrete brick to create a reference point to gauge what the Bosch GSB is capable of (or not capable of) in Hammer Mode. General DIY users may assume that having a hammer drill mode means they can use the machine to drill into brick and concrete, and that's not the case. While the Bosch may be able to drill a few small holes in low strength concrete, it will chew through bits quickly and pretty soon wear out the machine if thats what it's being used for.
The translation is slightly out... an 'impact driver' uses a hammer and anvil arrangement which drives rotation... but thanks, I know what you mean.
Thanks for the comment 😁
@@GrantBurton and thank you for the review!
Actually, that comparison helped me to evaluate the difference.
@@AdiosGringo619 Thats great... which drill did you end up buying?
@@GrantBurton GSB 18v-50. Your review helped a lot. Thanks again.
there's no impact driver?
Hi, there is an impact driver, I just haven’t got around to making a video of it yet. There is actually a nunber of Bosch battery tools I have access to, and that I still need to make the videos for… hoping to get around to that soon.
I just bought what I believe to be the same drill, but I may have got a slightly older model.
I got a material case and 3 batteries but not the ones that indicate the charge. The drill itself seems identical. Almost bought it for R3499 at Makro but then found it at Builders for R2700 on promo.
I'm not sure if it's packaged differently for Builders or slightly older. Does anyone here know?
Hi Bruce, with many of these tools (across various brands) there are a few different configurations of kits that are available, usually denoted by the last letters of the kits model number as I recall... normally the tool will be the same, but other items like you mention, may differ... like hard case vs material bag, or three batteries instead of two, or different capacity batteries, or a fast vs slow charger, or tool only options. I'm not an expert on it, but thats just what I seem to have noticed over time.
If the model number on the drill is the same, then it's the same drill 👍
Which option is better for drilling in concrete and screwing:
1. Bosch GSB 500 RE
+ Bosch GO Gen. 2.0 screw driver
OR
2. BOSCH GSB 180 LI
I think the Bosch GSB 500 RE Impact drill would be better for drilling concrete compared to the GSB 180 LI… but only for small holes. If you intent to drill concrete or masonry, a rotary hammer drill is a far better choice (SDS rotary hammer). As for an electric screwdriver, it depends what you are trying to screw / unscrew but the GSB 180 Li will be more powerful at screwing compared to the GO Gen 2.0
One critical problem with Milwaukee brushless M18 drills is the awful sound of the motor. The Bosch doesn't appear to be making the same horrendous "sharp" scream from the motor windings. The M18 brushless drills seem to produce a sound akin to a small air raid siren. I won't buy another M18 drill until they solve the sound problem, they require hearing protection to drill a basic hole. This Bosch is next on my list, it's a beautiful drill.
My brushless Ridgid drill is the same . It makes a high pitch noise that's annoying
I’m glad someone else mentioned this. My M18 drives me nuts, and everyone else says the noise is barely there….i disagree. So much so that I brought a Bosch professional to replace it. Much better experience all around so far.
Love Bosch they are great
Hi Anthony, thanks for the comment.
Hey Grant, thanks for the reviews. I've been looking for a good hammer drill for concrete but hate corded tool.
Do you recommend gsb 185 instead? I can't seem to decide...
Hi Erka, I wouldn't recommend it at all... it's the 'wrong' tool for the job. For drilling into concrete, you are better off using a rotary hammer (SDS) drill... thats the right tool for the job. In the video, this is seen when I used the Dewalt rotary hammer to drill through the concrete brick where the normal 'hammer' drill was battling.
As an example, if you are looking for Bosch, something like this amzn.to/3JIyVx5
@Grant Burton ah yes I guess so.. cordelss SDS is pretty expensive here, tho so I thought I could get away with GSB series xD
Thanks for the advice!
Hi, i would like to enquire between Bosch GSB185LI and GSB18V-50, what are the different and which one was recommended, thanks!
+1 🙋♂️
Hi Chilk Ling, the Bosch GSB 185Li and 18v-50 both have very similar specs and functions however the 185Li is a light duty drill compared to the 18v-50. The 185Li has a smaller body / outer case and has lighter duty internal wiring and connections and also a light duty gearbox compared to the 18v-50 model.
Overall the 18v-50 is a stronger more heavy duty drill.
I got mine Friday used it for a few hours yesterday repairing some cupboards and today on some garage door repairs. Good piece of kit I had the normal GSB 18v before which was stolen hence this replacement. Its on special at builders at the moment in a nylon case with 3x 2ah batteries and charger for 2999.
Hi Nigel, thanks for the comment. A cordless drill is pretty handy to have around the house for all the DIY repairs, etc. There is also a teardown video if you interested at seeing whats inside ruclips.net/video/0pFq8S_gkBk/видео.html
Hi Nigel, I am just interested in confirming the Batteries you got in the box, was it definitely 3 x 2Ah Batteries and not perhaps only 2? The kits at Builders, Makro etc. seems to have maximum 2 x Batteries. Thanks, Reinhard.
@@rrensburg Hi mine came in soft corduroy case with charger and 3 X 2AH batteries I have some pics of the packaging etc just don't know how to post them here.1 battery was fitted on drill and the other 2 were packaged inside the case in a brown cardboard box.
Hi Nigel, if you want, you're welcome to email the pics to me at grantburtonbuilds@gmail.com and I'll upload them to my post feed on RUclips for Reinhard to see.
Aside from drilling small holes in brick or concrete, are there other uses around the house for the GSB18V-50? I would like a new brushless cordless drill, but wondering if I should get this particular drill that includes a hammer mode.
Hi, for the convenience of having the hammer mode when you need to drill one or two small holes around the house, hanging pictures, curtain rails, etc into brick... I think it's worth having the hammer mode. For anything more, I would get an SDS rotary hammer. Just today I installed pegboards at a friends place and drilled 55 small holes into brickwork (6mm), used the SDS all the way. The hammer mode on a combi-drill could have possibly done it, but not nearly as quickly and would have required much more effort.
Bosch always got the batterypack in the tool when factory new
Thanks for the info 👍
Won't buy,impact drill performance is 0
For small holes into masonry, it's ok, but none of these drills (no matter what brand) are the best for drilling large holes into masonry or concrete... some brands work better than others but for that type of drilling, it's best to use a rotary hammer drill (SDS)
Please make video on different drill bits for beginners.. Which one to use when and for what- dry walls, metal , wood. Which size etc etc
Thanks for the idea, I'll keep it in mind and maybe get to it during the year.
I have 1 that came in a set that came with angle grinder a sander, bag, a driver, 2X 5ah batteries all brushless both batteries failed with in 12 months rather annoying
That is super annoying. Were you able to return the batteries under warranty?
@@GrantBurton no I took them apart and repairs them, 2 cells in each of them were bad I order 4 new cells and replaced the bad ones, they have 10 cells in each battery I couldn't find the receipt for them which was a bummer as the set cost $960, I've also have 2x 6ah batteries coming, apart from the batteries there really good tools, all are pretty powerful the 5" random orbit sander and the 5" angle grinder are really good
Does the chuck of your drill-driver rotate smoothly on its axis? Is there any wobbling?
There is a very small amount of wobbling (as can be seen in the video) but it’s such a small amount, it’s nothing to worry about. It doesn’t affect the accuracy of holes when hand drilling. This amount of runout / wobbling wouldn’t be acceptable if this was in a drill press though.
@@GrantBurton I've just started using this device, and the chuck has noticeable wobbling. I tested the drill with a few short bits, and the wobbling doesn't transfer to them. I also checked it with a longer spade bit, and there the deviations are quite strong (possibly a bent bit but it's new one). That's strange for equipment of this class. Regards
Great video. Good to see someone actually test the tool properly before reviewing.
Hi, thanks for the comment 😁
Ok good and accurate review. For concrete, masonry try vel 2
Greetings from Chile
Hi Juan, nice to hear from you and thanks for your comment.
it is the same than bosch gsb 185-li ?
The Bosch GSB 185Li and GSB 18v-50 both have very similar specs and functions however the GSB 185Li is a light duty drill compared to the GSB 18v-50. The 185Li has a smaller body / outer case and has lighter duty internal wiring and connections and also a light duty gearbox compared to the GSB 18v-50 model.
The GSB 18V-50 is physically larger and it's case has more rubberising protection around it
Overall I think the GSB 18v-50 is a stronger more heavy duty drill.
You'r right the battery isn't supposed to be preinstalled, seems this one is a return peace maybe or it was a showpeice.
Hi Peter, it is possibly but luckily everything has been working perfectly so far.
@@GrantBurton well thats good, if it is the case it is possible that the person who had it before just didn't like it much
Thankfully this time it all worked out... I have purchased an item online in the past (camera gimbal), which arrived and after unboxing, I could see it had been opened and actually dropped by somebody else before (definitely not from the factory like that)... thankfully there was no quibble about returning the item and having a replacement one sent... this time around it was definitely brand new.
Great video Grant. Coming from the GSB 18-2-Li PLUS I need a slow RPM start on trigger pull for screw work mainly. Would you know which of the 18v-50 or the 185-Li might have the slowest RPM start on trigger pull. The less expensive 180-Li tends to jump from zero to like 20 RPM which is not optimal.
Hi Patrick, thanks very much. I was playing around with 185Li in Strand Hardware in Port Elizabeth a few weeks ago but can't remember how the slow speed start performed (Don't think it was something I was specifically looking at).
I'll pop past there again soon and compare, then get back to you. Hopefully they still have both models on display.
What type of screw work requires such a slow start? Maybe an electric screw driver will be better suited to the work?
Hi Patrick, I have the 185-Li model, the startup speed on gear 1 is the same as 180-Li model. I use it mainly on gear 2 for drilling. For screwing I have other brands like hikoki or makita which have slow initial rotation speed. At my workplace I have bosch 12v-15, it is super slow and fine in gear 1.
Great review 🔥🔥🔥 New subscriber here 🤙
Hi, thanks very much for your support.
@@GrantBurton You're welcome,Grant.
@@boschfanchannel7138 Hi Ryan, there is probably going to be a teardown of this drill in a future video so keep a lookout for that. Keep well.
Hi, the teardown video is out if you are interested… ruclips.net/video/0pFq8S_gkBk/видео.html
You need to wear PPE glove on the left hand (at least) when using the drill.
Thanks for the comment.
Hey Mr Grant! Would you take that Bosch over Dewalt 778? Cannot pick between Bosch and Dewalt because i never had anything from that brands.
Hi Thiago, between the two drills you mention, I would rather take the Dewalt 778 because it is more powerful than the Bosch however it really depends on which eco system you want to buy into. Batteries are pretty expensive so once you have started buying into a specific brand, it's cheaper to stick with that brand because you'll only be buying 'bare' tools and swapping the batteries between the tools. It also depends on thew range of tools available wherever you are.... no good buying into a Brand if they have limited support and only a hand full of tools available in the area.
@@GrantBurton alright! Bosch has the biggest support of all well known brands here in Brazil (Bosch, dewalt and makita are the most used ones).
Bosch gear is also a little bit cheaper than Dewalt, so I’m probably going with 18v50.
778 is indeed more powerful, specially when drilling concrete, but excluding raw power looks like Bosch is better on anything else (prices, support / warranty / features, etc)
@@GrantBurton thank you for sharing your thoughts with me Mr Grant! :)
@@fivinh0 Makita is also a very good brand so maybe look at their stuff, although it depends what you want to do with the tools. I you are doing basic DIY stuff, then the entry level tools will be ok... but if you are dong 'contractor' type work, I wouldn't cheap out... rather buy the more expensive and better quality drill as it will likely give you better service life. Out of those three Brands you mentioned, I would choose Makita and Dewalt over Bosch. (Makita has their 'home DIY' range which is 'Makita MT' and the more contractor type tools which are straight 'Makita' - similar to Bosch green for home use and the Bosch Professional (blue) which is better than the green range).
I wouldn't be making any comparisons of these types of drills and making any decisions based on their ability to drill concrete... All of them are not great... they have very basic hammer action and you'll just end up damaging / wearing out your drill unnecessarily and pretty fast. If you need to drill concrete, you need to get a rotary hammer drill.
@@fivinh0 It's a pleasure.
Hello, what is the difference with the Gsb18v-490b12 model? thank you.
55N vs 50N
What is the difference between this and the GSB 185-Li??
Hi Oliver, the Bosch GSB 185Li and 18v-50 both have very similar specs and functions however the 185Li is a light duty drill compared to the 18v-50. The 185Li has a smaller body / outer case and has lighter duty internal wiring and connections and also a light duty gearbox compared to the 18v-50 model.
Overall the 18v-50 is a stronger more heavy duty drill.
@@GrantBurton Thanks man! Oh, by the way, Bosch usually ships their tool kits with battery inserted in the power tool itself.. I don't know why either. All my tool kits are sealed, and all of them have their batteries inserted as well.
@@The_Crazy_Monkey75 Thanks for the info... I would think it may be a potential safety hazard shipping with an inserted battery but who knows... haha.
Is that chuck wobble normal with these kinds of drills?
Seems to be fairly common (even with other brands) but doesn't really affect the performance of the drill since its a hand held machine.
How much to buying price
Excellent video Grant :-) gold star on your forehead
Thanks dude.
Hmm, there seems to be interest in Bosch drills :-)
does that mean I want the GSR as I have not a use for a hammer mode?
If you can afford it, I would still get the GSB model (with hammer function) just to have the option to drill small holes (5mm or 6mm) in brickwork for hanging up pictures, etc. if the need arises.
I askin for the price
Well done!
Thank you.
I own the gsb-490 USA version of your hammer drill with GDX18v-1800 In a kit GXL-233B25 with two core 4.0 batteries 21700 cells bag charger
Hi Tc, how has the drill been working for you? Still happy with it?
@@GrantBurton yes it's work really well for my job I do building maintenance so the specs are just fine for my needs I don't really use the hammer function 22,000 bpm is low for that we use the 18 v bulldog for home I use Ridgid/AEG they work just fine for that use I would have liked a case like you got but hear they tend to give bags
@@bluemantom77 Great to hear it's working well. I don't own one and have never used one but I believe the original Bosch bulldogs are known to be awesome SDS drills... long lasting and hard working machines. I have mixed thoughts about hard cases... sometimes it's been nice carrying a hard case and all is neatly packed inside but other times, it's much more convenient to throw all the power tools loose into one bag and carry to site like that (less to carry). In the workshop, both bags and cases get tossed.
@@GrantBurton I personally don't own one it belongs to my job but I told my boss if he had to buy a new ones give one he will who knows if I'm still going to be there in the future holds
Better than Dewalt DCD805N?
Hi, I think the Dewalt DCD805 is better, more powerful.
Lots of chuck wobble there i see
There is a little... haha. But doesn't seem to affect performance for general hand-drilling tasks.
Great review, detailed & honest
Hi UsmanPk143, thanks very much for your comment.
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Thank you.
Thank you!!!!
Hi JC... You're welcome!
@@GrantBurton Went ahead and bought the GSB 18v-150C tho instead. I now have no money.
@@jcjamlig I'm sure you gonna love it. Better to go with something more powerful, like you did.
@@GrantBurton Yep, true, when needed. Nonetheless thanks for your video, helped a lot in my decision.
You can make a video about the GSB-18V-150C too! it's Bangin!
It's a pleasure. If you send over a GSB 18v-150c and I'll do a review and teardown / rebuild video on it.
How much this drill
Hi Mzomhle, the price varies depending where you buy it from but a quack search on Google shows it's around R3 000 to R3 700.
thank you
You're welcome
Price
Between R3000 and R4000 in South Africa... depending on where you buy it form and what kit you get.
Hi! Nice review! 4:49 first time I hear about this type of protection, but what are the values of this "permitted operating temperature" range? I hope it is not a rubbish [0...40] range...
Hi paulbt, I'm not sure what the exact range is but from what the manual says, it sounds like it's just overload protection (that is based on temperature) so you don't burn out the transistors in the speed control or motor windings (If you putting the drill under to much load and pulling to much current through the speed control, the transistors will heat up and before they get to hot and burn out, the power is reduced to limit damage to the transistors / motor).
You are not comparing the two Drills (bosch and Dewalt) because, the Dewalt you used is a rotary drill and the setting is hammer, while the setting is only the Bosch drill, they should have the same hammer setting so we can know which one is stronger. in two and the drill bits of dewalt are different than bosch dull
Hi Manzera, thanks for your comment. The video is not intended to be a comparison video in which we compare the DeWALT SDS rotary hammer drill against the Bosch GSB18v-50 to show which one is better or stronger than the other... they are totally different drills.
I show the DeWALT SDS drilling through the a concrete brick to create a reference point to gauge what the Bosch GSB is capable of (or not capable of) in Hammer Mode. General DIY users may assume that having a hammer drill mode means they can use the machine to drill into brick and concrete, and that's not the case. While the Bosch may be able to drill a few small holes in low strength concrete, it will chew through bits quickly and pretty soon wear out the machine if thats what it's being used for.
Hope this clears things up.
Excellent Content. I picked one up recently. Battery was also shipped installed.
Thanks very much 😁 and thanks for the battery info.
it should have supporting handle
Hi Mixo, I don’t think this drill has enough power to warrant the need (and extra cost) for a supporting handle… the motor will eventually burn out if it’s put under that load while holding the support handle.
When you start getting to the higher power drills… definitely a support handle is nice to have.
The more powerful drill has a handle, this drill is for medium to slightly heavy duty work. The drill with handle is heavy duty work