I think what people don't understand is FX barrels are FX barrels. All accuracy can be the same. It's your job to make sure the projectile you want to use matches barrel length and twist rate. After that, it's just what platform best suits your needs.
thanks brother. they really are amazing guns. keith and i are very anal about our accuracy and we shoot a lot. we could shoot any guns we want and it always comes out to be our fx guns for sure
You made poor ol Norm sit out in the hot sun. lol. Great video. I have an M3 in both .22 and .30 and love them. I like the larger air capacity compared to the Panthera. Hope to get some of those magazines soon.
Great to see you guys again out there having fun. I love my impacts but I was thinking of a panthera 25 cal 600mm. What are your thoughts? Also, have a question on the impact tensioning barrel. Had a problem with mine keep coming loose. How tight do you make it? Should I Loctite it?
keith loves his 25cal panthera man. i tighten my rear barrel screw first and then the front two barrel tention screws tight evenly. i think blue loctite wouldnt hurt buddy
Both are dope rifles. When choosing which one people just need to consider their use case. My Panthera was amazing at the NRL22 event I just shot, beat out a lot of .22LRs. My Impact I've got more geared toward being a bench gun. If you intend on shooting PRS the Panthera is the obvious choice since that is what it was designed for.
Awesome as usual guys. I was with Mike a couple weeks ago and he told me he went to NY to hang with you guys. Looking forward to meeting you at the northeast airgun classic. Hey Keith off subject question. When you built your tank trap what length did you cut the 4x4's?
A very informative video. What I’d like to see is for you to swap guns and shoot the same targets . That would help take the variability of each shooters skills into account. I think you have done that before. Your both excellent shooters at long rang and can shoot better than most of us will ever be able to to do, but watch you both shoot and talk to us about what your doing is very helpful . Many other doing target shooting videos just sit down and shoot and give no info on their dope or set up. Thanks gain for t Your efforts
Another great, thank you.... I couldn't help notice how much more the Double Disc target was being moved with the .25 than the .22, the extra stopping power must be evident. Please could you show the difference between the .22, .25 & .30, I have seen the difference in gel but this was very telling.
Now that I put a 700cc front bottle on the Panthera, I'm leaning more to team Panthera. Less than 2fps standard deviation and just a better feeling rifle.
Awesome video guys!! Next time shoot groups then switch rifle and shoot new groups and see the results would be interesting to see since your both excellent marksmen 👌🏼
Thanks man. We use strelok but have just switched over to a kestrel fill time. Got beat badly at a comp and the winner told me to get a kestrel. It was eye opening how much better the real time dope is
My wife and I went out and shot my M3 and Her Mk2 yesterday for the first time. Love these rifles, Had crazy wind as well. Targets at 50, 75, and 100 yards. We were killing it, We even have the Nomad III so we could shoot for hours, filled the tanks 4 times. We live in Southern Utah.. Now to learn all the different settings and pressures.. 🤯 I am definitely happy with my M3
Great shooting as always fellas. 👍🎯💯🛠️ Nice is that a wind mill your standing next to. I take it it's just for looks now. I don't see a sucker rod 🤔 you don't see to many windmills any more. There a good way to save on electricity that for sure. if the top gear head still there and works there worth 1500$- 3000$ for one believe or not just a fyi and it's kinda difficult to find repair parts for the gear head and not fun to change or replace part's . Iv rebuilt quite a few . I'm surprised I would think you put it to use i would make a mock well by the pound and use the windmill as the pump to fill the line to cattle troff it wouldn't be to hard to do then again I work in water pump 💦 have a great one till the next one 👍✌️🍻🎯💯
Nice shooting, and awesome guns! Here in Brasil 🇧🇷, they cost waayy too much (somewhere around 25-30 months of work if u get a minimum wage paycheck). Well, nice job with the Chanel! I already subscribed! Cheers 👍🏾
@@normanshanley7417 Norm I am so jealous of people who shoot well off hand. I am horrible!! If I was with you guys I would've faked a torn rotator cuff, a sudden wrist injury...or deliberately jammed my gun. I give you credit for even competing with him off hand
Great to have seller's sponsor for all your video's. It's not possible in our country (France). No shops in France and no manufacturers send test or demonstration products or make good price for their good customer. It's my third FX in the same retailer and when I ask a price for a Panthera... no way.
curius that the Impact M3 scope cam was notably more stable, both for just general aiming/viewing AND when firing (a lot more stable visually during the firing). Anythoughts as to why this was? Shooter? Bipod set up? Rear stabilization?
Great video. Don't think you can go wrong with any FX. I still love my FX Indy! Impacts are great guns and I'm sure the Panthera is too but I'll keep my Maverick!😊
Awesome shooting, guys. I think they shot the same, but I think the impact is a little more accurate, but then again, I haven't shot a Pantera yet thanks for sharing, guys, be safe
Hey Kieth and Norm what we want to see if a sub $400 challenge. See who can do better at lets say 100 yard bench-rest? Maybe field target either way would be super fun to watch 😁
Great review fellas! These rifles are real competitors. One has 800mm and one 700mm. Curious to see a 800mm Panther shooting tho. It might make a difference between the two. From what I've seen and heard tho,the Panther will shoot slightly tighter groups with proper tuning. The impact seems to be very nice for shot count while the Panthera is great for prs shooting? Altho I've seen a front bottle extension for the Panthera. Either way is very good on them. Nice shooting fellas and keeping it real! Super Sikk! Hey, sta slingin that sweet air rifle lead! Ed snipper 💥💪😱😱😱
I don't think one is better than the other honestly. One is designed for one purpose and the other is designed for multiple purposes. If I had to chose one it would be the Impact and I don't even own either to be honest. The versatility of the Impact is why it is so popular IMHO. If I only planned on PRS I would still take the Impact simple out of it's practicality. On a different note...Why does FX only have bottle that fill to 230 Bar and not 300 Bar? Wouldnt it be better if you could have more air on board or does this have something to do with a more consistent regulator pressure output overall?
Dude this is perfect timing. Ive been rolling this over in my head for a few weeks since my local shop got a couple Panthera's in. They're a couple bucks cheaper than an impact actually. I shoot a ton out of a vehicle for birds and ground squirrels, so I was looking to get away from my dreamline into something shorter, but I picked up the panthera and fell in love. It is the most balanced rifle I've ever held. I don't even have the money for an impact right now, but maybe one day I'll have one of everything. 😂 One can always dream right? My local shop says they won't be able to get impacts for quite a while because supposedly FX is working on a new gun and they're pausing impact production. True or no?
I mean, if you know FX, you'd know that the wildly effective engineering of the Pantera would lead to them to do something of that nature in an Impact form.
In a few words and for the knowledgeable air rifle experts not to go into statistics I think the Fx impact is better for hunting and the Fx panthera performs better in competition. that's my humble opinion
Norms tactacam image (from 2:44) was much more stable (sorry Norm) not sure if that was the Pantheras fault? but well done at 268 on flat targets as the slugs will be coming in like mortars
Gotten rid of the fx mavrick? got one myself but i find most youtubers dont give it as mutch love as the big brother impact or the new panthera, even see more wildcat videos than mavrick.
I think what people don't understand is FX barrels are FX barrels. All accuracy can be the same. It's your job to make sure the projectile you want to use matches barrel length and twist rate. After that, it's just what platform best suits your needs.
yes sir. choosing the right ammo for your gun is the best thing you can do
How does one go about finding the right ammo? I'm new to this stuff.
@@drconflict629 your best bet buddy is to check out a bunch of youtube videos and see what most people are shooting
I think the impact is way more versatile and there is no boundary for it it will only improve
we definetly love our impacts also
Agreed. The platform is also much better for hunting.
Ive been waiting for you to make this exact video!!! So stoked when this notification came thru! Both these guns are incredible!
thanks brother. they really are amazing guns. keith and i are very anal about our accuracy and we shoot a lot. we could shoot any guns we want and it always comes out to be our fx guns for sure
Awesome vid guys, you guys are impressive! Keep pumping out the content🙏
thanks so much my friend for your support
Love the comparison. Love that spot you have to shoot and train. It seems like there is always a good challenging wind there. Great video!
thanks brother. the wind always blows here for sure
Very entertaining, especially during the free hand session, loved the teasing interaction between you 2 guys, good sportsmanship also.
thanks man
Always a great watch and nice to the two head to head . Both awesome rifles in their own rights . Look forward to more 😎
thanks so much
As always, great content guys. I think they each have their own roles to play.
thanks buddy
You made poor ol Norm sit out in the hot sun. lol. Great video. I have an M3 in both .22 and .30 and love them. I like the larger air capacity compared to the Panthera. Hope to get some of those magazines soon.
thanks for watching us buddy
Great to see you guys again out there having fun. I love my impacts but I was thinking of a panthera 25 cal 600mm. What are your thoughts? Also, have a question on the impact tensioning barrel. Had a problem with mine keep coming loose. How tight do you make it? Should I Loctite it?
keith loves his 25cal panthera man. i tighten my rear barrel screw first and then the front two barrel tention screws tight evenly. i think blue loctite wouldnt hurt buddy
Both are dope rifles. When choosing which one people just need to consider their use case. My Panthera was amazing at the NRL22 event I just shot, beat out a lot of .22LRs. My Impact I've got more geared toward being a bench gun. If you intend on shooting PRS the Panthera is the obvious choice since that is what it was designed for.
very true buddy
Great video as always guys, would like to see some more hunting videos on the Panthera.
thanks charles. im sure we will be doing more hunting videos with these pantheras for sure
Great video. Do you have a link for those Panthera magazines?
Great video guys. Gotta love the New York wind. Forever keeping you on your toes
thanks Sean. this wind is crazy up here
@@normanshanley7417 deal with it every day in the lower Hudson valley.
Awesome as usual guys. I was with Mike a couple weeks ago and he told me he went to NY to hang with you guys. Looking forward to meeting you at the northeast airgun classic. Hey Keith off subject question. When you built your tank trap what length did you cut the 4x4's?
thanks pal
A very informative video. What I’d like to see is for you to swap guns and shoot the same targets . That would help take the variability of each shooters skills into account. I think you have done that before. Your both excellent shooters at long rang and can shoot better than most of us will ever be able to to do, but watch you both shoot and talk to us about what your doing is very helpful . Many other doing target shooting videos just sit down and shoot and give no info on their dope or set up.
Thanks gain for t
Your efforts
thanks so much buddy we appreciate you
Another great, thank you....
I couldn't help notice how much more the Double Disc target was being moved with the .25 than the .22, the extra stopping power must be evident.
Please could you show the difference between the .22, .25 & .30, I have seen the difference in gel but this was very telling.
thanks so much we appreciate you Bella
Epic video boys ! Been waiting for this one, still haventdecide, M3 or Panthera
thank you my friend
Always love watching you guys work together! Today is 5/10/23 and I just saw this video! Well done gents!!!!
Thanks brother! Glad you found it!
Great to see you both out having some fun, and great banter, great shooting guys luved it, Cheers to ya both 👌👌👌👍👍👍👍👍
thanks you sir
@@normanshanley7417 làm thế nào gửi về Việt Nam được,,,, mua chuẩn bên Tây luôn nhỉ ??
I noticed Norm is not paying attention to his level off hand and it was canted. Great video guys!
thats all overrated buddy😂😂😂
Now that I put a 700cc front bottle on the Panthera, I'm leaning more to team Panthera. Less than 2fps standard deviation and just a better feeling rifle.
Oh, finally! Real long range and steel! Great video! Thank you!
thanks so much we are glad you liked it
@@normanshanley7417 👍❤️
Awsum job gang always having fun that’s what it’s about 🤙🤙have an amazing week
thanks and back at you brother
@@normanshanley7417 rite on Braddah Norm 🤙
Nice work gentlemen!
thank you sir
Great to see that Panthera in action, another great video as always
thanks so much
Keith - do you have a video that shows how to level your scope?? Thanks in advance.
im pretty sure we do buddy
With your 30cal impact do you know what twist rate yours is? Seems liked they've changed, even with the superior heavy liners. Thanks
Awesome video guys!! Next time shoot groups then switch rifle and shoot new groups and see the results would be interesting to see since your both excellent marksmen 👌🏼
thanks so much Joel
I've started getting into air. Great videos. Medic, tough mos pal
Great video. What app do y’all use?
Thanks man. We use strelok but have just switched over to a kestrel fill time. Got beat badly at a comp and the winner told me to get a kestrel. It was eye opening how much better the real time dope is
My wife and I went out and shot my M3 and Her Mk2 yesterday for the first time. Love these rifles, Had crazy wind as well. Targets at 50, 75, and 100 yards. We were killing it, We even have the Nomad III so we could shoot for hours, filled the tanks 4 times. We live in Southern Utah.. Now to learn all the different settings and pressures.. 🤯 I am definitely happy with my M3
Great shooting as always fellas. 👍🎯💯🛠️ Nice is that a wind mill your standing next to. I take it it's just for looks now. I don't see a sucker rod 🤔 you don't see to many windmills any more. There a good way to save on electricity that for sure. if the top gear head still there and works there worth 1500$- 3000$ for one believe or not just a fyi and it's kinda difficult to find repair parts for the gear head and not fun to change or replace part's . Iv rebuilt quite a few . I'm surprised I would think you put it to use i would make a mock well by the pound and use the windmill as the pump to fill the line to cattle troff it wouldn't be to hard to do then again I work in water pump 💦 have a great one till the next one 👍✌️🍻🎯💯
muy buen video y muy buenas pruebas a seguir así disfrutando y pasándolo bien saludos 👍👍👏👏
Nice shooting, and awesome guns! Here in Brasil 🇧🇷, they cost waayy too much (somewhere around 25-30 months of work if u get a minimum wage paycheck). Well, nice job with the Chanel! I already subscribed! Cheers 👍🏾
Great job guys as always, you guys should do another soda can at 300 yards, with those two guns
keep on excellent shooting guys, push the limits of thoose fx’s ❤
thank you we sure will buddy
Hi guys!! What caliber do u think is the best one for precision with the M3? Thanks!!
Conclusion: Keith shoots really good off hand....
and both guns are tack drivers
keith is definelty an amazing offhand shooter buddy
@@normanshanley7417 Norm I am so jealous of people who shoot well off hand. I am horrible!!
If I was with you guys I would've faked a torn rotator cuff, a sudden wrist injury...or deliberately jammed my gun.
I give you credit for even competing with him off hand
Great to have seller's sponsor for all your video's. It's not possible in our country (France). No shops in France and no manufacturers send test or demonstration products or make good price for their good customer. It's my third FX in the same retailer and when I ask a price for a Panthera... no way.
that stinks buddy
Awesome video. The Panthera seems perfect gorgeous me. I'd just add the front tank mod.
thanks buddy. for hunting it would be great to put another bottle up front for sure
What scopes are you using ?
curius that the Impact M3 scope cam was notably more stable, both for just general aiming/viewing AND when firing (a lot more stable visually during the firing). Anythoughts as to why this was? Shooter? Bipod set up? Rear stabilization?
Great video. Don't think you can go wrong with any FX. I still love my FX Indy!
Impacts are great guns and I'm sure the Panthera is too but I'll keep my Maverick!😊
thanks billy
Ótimos acertos rapaziada
I am impressed. Are the guns stock or have you improved them?
the panthera is stock. i might have a little extra horsepower in the impact 🤣🤣🤣
Trying to figure out what element scopes your using,im guessing they are nexus ?
yes sir
Great shooting! Will you be adding the bottle to the front of the panthera?
thank you. we might add a front bottle for hunting purposes
Fun like always😎
thank you buddy we really did have fun with this one. its always fun kicking keiths butt 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 dont tell him i said this
Nice!
Awesome shooting, guys. I think they shot the same, but I think the impact is a little more accurate, but then again, I haven't shot a Pantera yet thanks for sharing, guys, be safe
thanks chris.
GOOD TIMES. See you guys at RMAC & PAC. Keep up the fun videos.
thanks buddy. we will see you at rmac
Hey Kieth and Norm what we want to see if a sub $400 challenge. See who can do better at lets say 100 yard bench-rest? Maybe field target either way would be super fun to watch 😁
Interesting
That was a proper showoff :) What a machiiine
😮 brilliant 🎯 shooting
thanks buddy
Did you upgrade any of the internals on the Panthera? And did you epoxy the barrel to the carbon fiber sleeve?
these are stock guns internally buddy. im not sure if keith epoxied his carbon fiber sleeve
Great review fellas! These rifles are real competitors. One has 800mm and one 700mm. Curious to see a 800mm Panther shooting tho. It might make a difference between the two. From what I've seen and heard tho,the Panther will shoot slightly tighter groups with proper tuning. The impact seems to be very nice for shot count while the Panthera is great for prs shooting? Altho I've seen a front bottle extension for the Panthera. Either way is very good on them. Nice shooting fellas and keeping it real! Super Sikk! Hey, sta slingin that sweet air rifle lead! Ed snipper 💥💪😱😱😱
thank you my friend
@@normanshanley7417 Yes Sir! All day ,ery day💥💪💪💪
Great video thanks, lots of useful info but I’ll stick with my M3 🍻
thanks man. you can never go wrong with an impact
Impact vs Panthera.......Impact....because i have a few......i thank yall for the lessons ...❤❤❤❤...Perfect!!!!!!!!
About 5 min ago I felt real good about hitting thumb tacks at 85yds.....thanks guys.
lol. thats awesome shooting buddy at 85 yards
I have a question do only the top important guys get fx impact 800mm barrels because I can’t find them anywhere?
no sir. they have them at utah airguns i believe
I don't think one is better than the other honestly. One is designed for one purpose and the other is designed for multiple purposes. If I had to chose one it would be the Impact and I don't even own either to be honest. The versatility of the Impact is why it is so popular IMHO. If I only planned on PRS I would still take the Impact simple out of it's practicality. On a different note...Why does FX only have bottle that fill to 230 Bar and not 300 Bar? Wouldnt it be better if you could have more air on board or does this have something to do with a more consistent regulator pressure output overall?
thanks Heath. these bottles actually will fill to 250 bar
Those mags are great!! I have them for both my Maverick and Impact. Hard to beat both of those guns.
yes they are buddy
Keith does your Panthera have the tungsten hammer installed?
It did. Ripped it out and swapped for a 8mm. Gun is much happier now the tungsten is too much
What is the bottom brass rail on your Panthera?
that is the new saber tacticle arca swiss rail. its awesome
Keith and Norman 🎉 awesome shooting like that Ding when it hits .
thanks terry we appreciate you
@@normanshanley7417 always brother
Nice
Can't make up my mind on which Panthera to get...gravitating towards the .25 600mm
i think that a great all around choice buddy
I can't decide whether I like the FX Impact or the Panthera better
its a hard choice for sure. they are both awesome
Both of these guns are awesome in their perspective classes and purpose of use. In this case, it all comes down to the shooter and the tune, maybe. 🤔
Muy bueno!!!!!!
Vortex venon 5-25-56 or Discovery ed 5-25-56 ¿
Impact’s clearly more versatile but the Panthera was designed for a specific purpose.
Choose based on your application and for me that’s the Impact
Same for me . I prefer a compact rifle .
I own both and can say I still prefer my Impact. However, I'm very interested to see what FX does next with the newer valve system.
they are definetly both amazing guns man
I mean, the impact is much more expensive. So it's to be expected it's better right.
@@drconflict629 I wouldn't say better buddy. I would say more versatile
Does the Fx shoot slugs stock right from the seller? Or do you need a slug liner?
That depends on the FX rifle your purchase.
@@Time_In1
Dude this is perfect timing. Ive been rolling this over in my head for a few weeks since my local shop got a couple Panthera's in. They're a couple bucks cheaper than an impact actually. I shoot a ton out of a vehicle for birds and ground squirrels, so I was looking to get away from my dreamline into something shorter, but I picked up the panthera and fell in love. It is the most balanced rifle I've ever held. I don't even have the money for an impact right now, but maybe one day I'll have one of everything. 😂 One can always dream right? My local shop says they won't be able to get impacts for quite a while because supposedly FX is working on a new gun and they're pausing impact production. True or no?
wow. i havent heard anything like that buddy
I mean, if you know FX, you'd know that the wildly effective engineering of the Pantera would lead to them to do something of that nature in an Impact form.
@@eliteairgunner5172 true, but FX USA said a couple days ago in their RUclips comments that there is currently no plans for an updated impact
@@GreatLakesLogger You mean so people won't stop buying the current one. Of course they did.....
Niceeee👍😉
Tell him Norm we will see about that my brother. 2 of the coolest guys out there.
Haha thanks John!
Question on the panthera: will a 360cc bottle have enough room behind the grip?
nice shootin shed.
thank you
between the two... it all comes down to - eye on the prize. general gun - impact or target gun - pantera
thanks so much for your support buddy
Good luck at RMAC!!
thanks so much. we are hoping to have a good showing
Ugh this is a hard choice!
it really isnt though buddy. just get both 🤣🤣🤣
Panthera seems entirely purpose built for PRS white the Impact can be easily converted for multiple intents.
you bet garry. but i will tell you with being able to add bigger air bottles now its going to make this a great hunting gun also
Damn boys😮
whats up brother bob? miss you buddy
@@normanshanley7417 Miss you too brother. Was going to be out there this week but the weather wasn't good. I'll be out maybe next month. 🙂
Favorite pellet?
right now we are loving the new zan 56 grain 30cal pellets
In a few words and for the knowledgeable air rifle experts not to go into statistics I think the Fx impact is better for hunting and the Fx panthera performs better in competition. that's my humble opinion
thanks Arudo Martin
Norms tactacam image (from 2:44) was much more stable (sorry Norm) not sure if that was the Pantheras fault? but well done at 268 on flat targets as the slugs will be coming in like mortars
So, if you have several different size targets maybe you could play a melody? .... You know you could. lol Otherwise Great shooting guys!
lol. thanks pal
Yeah, where is Steve? I don't think he's been shooting since the pandemic started!? 🤔
steve is doing good. he will be down soon
El sueño de todo hombre, tener cualquiera de esos 2 rifles.
That 1000fps is loud lol
Impact. Havent had a chace to see the pa thera other thN videos. My mk2 is updated to 720 power plenum and power block by fx.
you cant go wrong with either or buddy
That you cant. I been quite happy with my impact
if you have the mk3 can you install a power block? Or is it already on the gun?
gang is on the air let's like people it doesn't cost anything because it is without a doubt deserved like guaranteed always a fan of card
thank so much sir we appreciate you
Go for the Impact, the reliability of the Panthera is still questionable
💯👍🤝
Impact no power block and no 720 plenum
Sounds like the panthers has a twang
definetly has a different sound to it buddy
👍👍👍👍👌👌👌
Fx impact 👍🏻
Gotten rid of the fx mavrick? got one myself but i find most youtubers dont give it as mutch love as the big brother impact or the new panthera, even see more wildcat videos than mavrick.
we love our mavericks buddy