Jacquire King's Secrets for Recording Ultra-Wide Guitar
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- In this video, Grammy-winning producer Jacquire King (Tom Waits, Kings of Leon) walks us through the guitar recording chain for @robotmonstermusic 's new single "Out" - recorded at UA headquarters in Santa Cruz, CA. Jacquire uses OX, UAFX pedals, and a few other tricks to get a huge double-tracked guitar sound all from a single performance.
Watch the official music video for "Out" here: • Video
Credits:
Performed By - @robotmonstermusic
Written By - William Brennan, Logan Sidle
Produced By - Jacquire King
Assisted by - Dawson March
Mixed by - Jacquire King
Mastered by - Pete Lyman
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Looks like I’m stuck with narrow guitars forever 😂
Ha, double or quad track still rules.
Ha! My thoughts exactly
Nah I literally just record two amps at the same time. One goes straight through my pedals into the Apollo DI and another goes through my pedals into an RNDI. And I just run two uad amp sims. I pan them each way about %75 and run them to a bus and it works great. I’ll double track from time to time but usually this works just fine. You could even track one DI and paste it to another track and delay it by 10-20 ms or so and run different settings on each amp to give it a more double tracked feel if you wanted.
Dude. It's simple. Just have $50,000 worth of amp modelers, microphones, compressors, and preamps. Problem solved!
Lot of guys ripping on this video but there are some good things to take away. You don't need the exact gear shown in this video. But if you use similar techniques it will up your game.
For example: are you only using one amp right now? Do you have access to another? Even a cheap amp-in-a-box or modeler? Great! Now try running one amp dirty and the other clean. Try the dirty amp 100% dry and add verb to the clean amp. Now blend those signals. Notice any tone improvement? Hell yeah.
Got a spare mic and a living room you can record in for a couple hours? Throw up a room mic and make your guitar stereo like Jacquire is doing. Now you are almost there. Take the clean amp signal, throw it thru your stock delay plugin and the throw that into your stock reverb plugin to make it stereo. Choose a verb that sounds like a room. Decay time around 1 sec. Bob's your uncle.
It really sounds like two guitarists are playing. Great effect! Well done.
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He’s using a classic technique of (1) automatic double tracking to two different amp sims. And on those amp sims are (2) mic paths, a close and room mic. I really like the approach. Makes for a really huge image. The performance also needs to justify the approach.
Jaquire's presets are the most useful presets anywhere I find his name in the UA plugins.
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Verrry cool! Thank for sharing 🙏🏼 hope you guys are well
This is insanely easy to do in your DAW if you don't have all this gear, like 99.9% of people.
Any specific plugins/techniques to double and widen it it while tracking itself?Thanks
@@AnandhKumar84 tons of options. He's doubling it by sending the dry signal to another amp, just do that. Or send it to a different amp, put a room reverb on it and you can move that around like he does here. People are saying the signal path is complicated with hardware, it is, but it's easily duplicated with multiple amp sims and or reverbs
@@AnandhKumar84 The dead-simplest one I sometimes use is: *Left* Plain direct signal *Right* Same signal, but delayed 5 to 15 milliseconds (your taste). And I mean 0% dry, 100% wet. Listen in stereo, and she'll be WIDE :)
@@abandoned-mines-novascotia Thank you !! So you add the delay while tracking itself through some plugin ? How different is it from copy pasting the track and panning it in post(HAAS effect). I had replied earlier but the comments are gone ,some kind of comment moderation from UA may be :)
@@AnandhKumar84 My example allows the person performing, to hear the "wide" result in realtime. So they can play, jiving on the vibe of the "wide" sound.
Yes, if you wanted to "widen" in post, just take the mono track, and copy-paste it to a second track. Then you have two.
Pan one hard left, pan one hard right.
Then take the second (right side) copy and slide the waveform 5 to 15 milliseconds late... voila.
Play them back together, and listen. It'll sound super-wide. Simply due to the same performance, hitting both ears many milliseconds apart from each other.
Thanks for the inspiration. Complicated, but lots of options here.
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speaking of ultra-wide, my wife! AMIRIGHT!?
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Goat Hill Park represent babyyyyyy, Jacquire rules.
That's right! Love that place! 👊
Always looking for new tricks on how to do this 'cause when I'm recording myself my own style tends towards improvisational, you know, I'll change what I'm planning to play halfway through playing it if I make an interesting mistake or the flow of the music just takes me to a better idea... it can get pretty frustrating trying to double everything as exactly since sometimes it's hard for me to remember what I did the first time! And even when I do, being locked in to what I did the last time without the ability to experiment or go where the music is taking me can make things feel less exciting.
Any more tricks I can learn for how to not have to double are good knowledge in my book. :)
And even if some of this stuff gets pretty specific to gear options I don't have, it still gets some new ideas flowing.
When I do that, if I decide to double track I’ll literally loop 4-8 bars of my improvised takes until I can nail them then record to it. But usually I just record a stereo take.
Awesomeness
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Love these videos
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This gentleman is my hero! Hope to be like him some day
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Where's "Pops"!! Seeing these awesome guys without Pops is odd lol. I've followed them for over the last year in IG and they're awesome. So glad to see things are developing for them.
Cool demo, thanks! Would be curious to hear your thoughts on the Helix Double Take block too
Wow!
No shade whatsoever at Jacquire King because he's awesome, and I may be off here, but...this sounds like it would be a great approach for a stereo live rig to get a single guitar sounding huge. But it seems like it might be easier and sound a bit better to double or quad-track in studio?
This tip is NOT a replacement for the production technique of double/triple/quad tracking in the studio. This is good for when you have a single guitar band and want bigness but not all the rest that comes along with layering. So two different things for different scenarios.
I feel like the modulation in the delay is the most important part of this technique, but wasn’t mentioned ?
You are right & that is on me for neglecting to mention that element. Thanks for pointing it out. ✌
its a sales demo for UA using one of their star bands.
Do you mean the Starlight pedal on the left stage? Is it adding a different "delay" setting to the right side or adding a small delay in the signal path(Haas effect) ? I did not quite catch either as you mentioned
Love the way Jacquire thinks of music.
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By the time I've set that up I could've double tracked the guitars anyway. Not for me thanks, but an interesting idea nonetheless.
my favorite audio engineer.
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I prefer to buy a TC Mimiq Doubler
So innovative and impressive. Thanks for sharing so we can all look at new ways to vibe on the concepts. JK is the man.
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It's just a UA infomercial everyone....relax a bit.
He's in the UA room, using all UA gear and mostly UA fx.... getting paid to preach it and teach it.
I thought I saw Cannibal Corpses' drummer...!!!
Yeah , thanks for revealing the big secret: you take about $10k worth of outboard guitar FX and miscellaneous I/O gear, 50 patchbay connections and cables; route it all into your multichannel interface and stack another series of digital efx in your preferred DAW and voila! Wide guitar sound. I had no idea it was so simple!
You can do this with a schecter, an SM57, and audacity
@@bitcrusherco Exactly! Some people just like to complain
I guarantee you Jacquire King is on a podcast somewhere talking about how you don't need expensive gear. And yet when you dig into what guys like him use, it's almost always $50,000 worth of gear.
Might as well give up then
I love how he uses the phrase “keep it simple” then proceeds to ramble off a bunch of totally unnecessary steps and gear that he used to achieve a tone that can easily be achieved with a single sm57, cheap basic Behringer interface and stock Reaper plugins in an untreated room. Coming from someone with 20 plus years of recording experience, I can honestly tell you that none of the fancy, expensive gear and treated spaces matter at all at the end of the day. It’s all about capturing good performances, getting tones right at the source and good technique as far as editing and mixing is concerned. You don’t need any of the extra bs.
Could honestly get a wider sound with three pedals, a Rat, into a very light stereo chorus/flanger, then stereo verb. I have a strymon big sky and I've even done this DI to tape with fabulous results.
I mean no disrespect, but the point of the “keep it simple” had more to do with the guitarist. Our goal as engineers is to help the artist focus on their best performance (as you guys are mentioning). You’re right, he’s doing a lot of extra work, but given that’s his day job, it’s not that much for him lol. But for the guitarist, it really is simple.
@@bryanh3057 👊EXACTLY !!!
So room treatment doesn't matter in an environment you're recording in? 20 years of experience and that's what you came up with. Wow.
That’s like a $25,000 screwdriver WTF Just get a fuzz pedal
You know you can go ahead and use your fuzz pedal without feeling insecure about it, and weirdly enough also without trying to make other people feel insecure about what they use.
Kick Rubin outta' the king size and make a record with Sabbath.
Quit fackin'round and get it done.Please.
Too much information, too expensive, to complex. Hey UA, can’t you just make a plug-in that’ll give us this end result? 😂
I hope this is sarcasm lol
For real. This is ridiculous.
@@jorgemartinez42069 right! You can always tell the newbs who don’t know this can be done with stock plugins in any modern DAW.
What a bonehead riff lol
But 30k of shit to record it, so it must be good.
Kids are funny
90% of comments from jealous newbs: boohoo you’re using 50k worth of gear so I can’t do it and it’s somehow your fault.
10% of comments from nontards: thanks for the ideas brother, I know just how I can replicate this with what I already have.
Sounds like the way to double musicians who can’t play their parts.
So basically just own $30,000 worth of gear?
When you learn how to mix, you can do this with plugins or whatever you already have. Keep your head up kid, you’ll get there.
No
Robbie Saunders says no, you guys.
@@JohannesLabusch see, nobody cares Robbie 😱
Or you can just use Torpedo Wall Of Sound and cut out all this annoying bullshit
If it has anything to do with that awful fuzz tone in the beginning of the video I'm very much all set thanks.
Whammy pedal into a Helix huh? Someone doesn't understand FX.
Dude, you’re referring to a world renowned recording/mix engineer. You might want to talk to RUclips because I couldn’t get any of your pro level tutorials or mixes to play in HD.