In this case, him picking Mike over Logan isn't about loyalty..because one can argue where is Harvey's loyalty towards his client!!? It's just that he picked Mike over Logan. Period.
Except when he conspired to have himself named managing partner over jessica or slept with Louis’ sister or any of the thousand other times Harvey has been unloyal
@aayushbafna7594 I would argue it was his client that forced him into that situation. As, as Harvey pointed out, the client knew how close they were. He set himself up to get the short stick. Yet, the client throws a fit, when he's the one that went along with it. Harvey did, indeed, choose loyalty over business. So, I would argue you're wrong.
@@chickbowdrie4750 You have a fair point except for the last part. According to me, he didn't choose loyalty over business. He chose 'loyalty in friendship' over 'loyalty in business'. There is a difference. And that's my point.
@@aayushbafna7594 But I would say your first comment said "it's not about loyalty", so that's what I was arguing against. But you're last comment I'd say is spot on.
This scene hits differently when you realize Mike has no one else- he doesn't trust Rachel, his grandmother is gone, and so are Trevor and Jenny. He's essentially pleading for Harvey not to abandon him for this guy too. You can see the relief on his face right after Harvey says the words, hear it in the little chord that plays. And Harvey didn't even really get mad about this later- he knew that Mike just needed to know not everyone was willing to toss him aside. Just really hits home that loyalty is everything to Harvey, and that it always goes both ways.
technically they did, remember when hardman and forstman was working together? mike and harvey used gionapolous and sidwell against him, almost won tho, forstman has more money
@The Opera House All I'm saying is the quality of the show nosedived once he went to jail. I'd hypothesize that the creators never anticipated the show would have lasted as long as it did, and the creative genius simply dried up that's all.
@@dmalone12 I always felt like they only planned for 5 seasons. In the fifth season there was a lot of closure - some season 1 characters returning for a swansong episode, the firm gets a reset and of course that's where Mike commits to jail time. It's a sad ending, but it always looked like the intended ending.
@@Butlee I think that most of the cases and the plot of the show were aimed at creating and developing the characters and the relationships between them, so I don't see why the authors would have left them in s5 halfway I think season 8 should have been the end.
She got that “don’t you ever knock” from Anara haha, and the Chinese from firefly, I didn’t recognize her at first but once I heard her speak it, it rang so many bells
I don't understand in suits, fortsman has like four billion dollars, after he gets arrested and send to jail, he tells Harvey in later episode that Daniel hardman has full power of attorney, for him until he gets out, so that mean he have access to his money still fortsman??? In later episodes when Mike is in prison, Kevin tells Mike after his wife Jill got indicted, that the SEC, and Sean Cahill are cutting off access to their money . How come fortsman was able to keep access to his money, but access for the Millers to their money was cut off.
"In other words" is referencing the previous words that were said... "End this thing" was exactly what he was saying. What a weird inaccurate thing to have Jessica say
Sometime it's not about money or how rich you are it's about the car they are only limited and it's like if you lose it and you don't book it or some thing you just can't buy it so that's what happened here
He is actually it just depends where the actors stand and position of camera when shooting the scene. Look at the clip where Harvey asks Mike to go vack to work for him and not Louis, when they high 5 each other Mike looks taller😊
Forstman was always the most brutal character of them all, without ever needing to lift a finger or raise his voice. A true villain.
Such a badass villain 🙌🏻🔥🔥
imagine him and tanner together
The power of money!!
@@actiononlyfilms terrifying
Real POWER!!!
"It's bcoz you're standing there asking me to do it."
The power and the grit this man has no matter how evil he was.😅
That line was tough
Its nice that Harvey preaches about loyalty being the most important thing and when it comes down to it he does what he preaches.
In this case, him picking Mike over Logan isn't about loyalty..because one can argue where is Harvey's loyalty towards his client!!? It's just that he picked Mike over Logan. Period.
Except when he conspired to have himself named managing partner over jessica or slept with Louis’ sister or any of the thousand other times Harvey has been unloyal
@aayushbafna7594 I would argue it was his client that forced him into that situation. As, as Harvey pointed out, the client knew how close they were. He set himself up to get the short stick. Yet, the client throws a fit, when he's the one that went along with it. Harvey did, indeed, choose loyalty over business. So, I would argue you're wrong.
@@chickbowdrie4750 You have a fair point except for the last part.
According to me, he didn't choose loyalty over business. He chose 'loyalty in friendship' over 'loyalty in business'. There is a difference.
And that's my point.
@@aayushbafna7594 But I would say your first comment said "it's not about loyalty", so that's what I was arguing against. But you're last comment I'd say is spot on.
“Do me a favor? Tell her she's fired on the way out.”
A truly powerful villain!
This scene hits differently when you realize Mike has no one else- he doesn't trust Rachel, his grandmother is gone, and so are Trevor and Jenny. He's essentially pleading for Harvey not to abandon him for this guy too. You can see the relief on his face right after Harvey says the words, hear it in the little chord that plays. And Harvey didn't even really get mad about this later- he knew that Mike just needed to know not everyone was willing to toss him aside. Just really hits home that loyalty is everything to Harvey, and that it always goes both ways.
I've never noticed that before.
Nice catch 👌
''I am going with Mike'' ... brilliant play by Harvey ... go Mike go Mike ...
Harvey: Mike, do not put me in-
Logan: Done
Harvey: -_-
I wish we could have seen Charles Forstman and Tony Gionapolous go against each other.
Fr that’d be a real dog fight
My money would be on Forstmen. Gionapolous is ruthless, but he plays by the rules. Forstmens is completely unfettered.
Two heavy hitters, that would be awesome for sure
technically they did, remember when hardman and forstman was working together? mike and harvey used gionapolous and sidwell against him, almost won tho, forstman has more money
Forstman is definitely my favorite character, he pulls of the persona well.
I wonder if he’s based on Teddy Forstman?
The placement of the keys after that throw continuity wise hurts me, other than that, easily one of my top 3 favourite shows 👍
oh man, it's like watching suits all over again
Don’t like how mike acts sometimes towards Harvey… he would literally be nothing without him.
3:47 QTE: Option 1: Mike
Option 2: Logan
Harvey picks Mike
Logan will remember that.
Mike will remember that.
Suits was the best show ever before Mike Ross went to jail.
@The Opera House All I'm saying is the quality of the show nosedived once he went to jail. I'd hypothesize that the creators never anticipated the show would have lasted as long as it did, and the creative genius simply dried up that's all.
@@dmalone12 I always felt like they only planned for 5 seasons. In the fifth season there was a lot of closure - some season 1 characters returning for a swansong episode, the firm gets a reset and of course that's where Mike commits to jail time. It's a sad ending, but it always looked like the intended ending.
@@Butlee I think that most of the cases and the plot of the show were aimed at creating and developing the characters and the relationships between them, so I don't see why the authors would have left them in s5 halfway
I think season 8 should have been the end.
@@izzyizzy241 7 when Mike left.
Show went downhill after the whole jail plot.
Season 7 is when things really started to feel like they were being dragged out.
She got that “don’t you ever knock” from Anara haha, and the Chinese from firefly, I didn’t recognize her at first but once I heard her speak it, it rang so many bells
LOL Logan thinking he was going to get picked. -_-
I wished there was a takeover battle between Charles Frostman and Tony Gionapolous
Julia Robert’s brother… great actor
Who is
@@TheMwendaa Charles forsman
@@agbonighaleomosikhianwinif9811 oh thanks!
Mike's my guy, you new that going in
Poor secretary, lost her job for a joke.
That poor secretary
I love Jessica . Bring back Pearson
I still admire the way mike defended Rachel.
Frostman needs to be a super villain
Mike quoting Moe Green from Godfather 1:32 🤣
One of the best season
charles fortsman the most diabolical rich man ever
Aah, why'd you censor the language? 🙃
Mike is the absolute worst when he didn’t work for Harvey
Was just about to say it. Him and Donna are better in their places...
Loyalty in visual form
the censoring is annoying...
yes but you are safe now
If Rachel didn’t make it personal Mike would have killed it with this deal
One of the best season of suits!!
I don't understand in suits, fortsman has like four billion dollars, after he gets arrested and send to jail, he tells Harvey in later episode that Daniel hardman has full power of attorney, for him until he gets out, so that mean he have access to his money still fortsman???
In later episodes when Mike is in prison, Kevin tells Mike after his wife Jill got indicted, that the SEC, and Sean Cahill are cutting off access to their money . How come fortsman was able to keep access to his money, but access for the Millers to their money was cut off.
I was wondering why he left the keys... lol
Please send her to me. There is no time left.
Forstman is the best villan ever
And you will make thousand new excuses of not doing that.
Meh...I'll take those keys, thank you!
4:01 🤜🏼 🤛🏼
danger naughty words :O
Let it happen
mike almost lost the powerful walkout
"In other words" is referencing the previous words that were said... "End this thing" was exactly what he was saying. What a weird inaccurate thing to have Jessica say
Does it have leadership thing in speech ship not leader
wait.....why would someone as rich as this guy care so much about 1 particular car? Can't he buy 10 of them?
Sometime it's not about money or how rich you are it's about the car they are only limited and it's like if you lose it and you don't book it or some thing you just can't buy it so that's what happened here
It never mattered what car it was, only that it was Harveys
I don't like Mike in these seasons
Where season 9
Ah stop bleeping out the bad language, ruins it..
I entirely agree. It's a huge part of the rhythm in the spoken lines
4:55 - Mike ain't the same height as Harvey as he claimed
like 1 or 2 inches
He is actually it just depends where the actors stand and position of camera when shooting the scene. Look at the clip where Harvey asks Mike to go vack to work for him and not Louis, when they high 5 each other Mike looks taller😊
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